No hijab, glamourous sisters

[Serina]

Assalam Alaikum

I was at a charity fundraising dinner last week organised by muslims for the earthquake. What I could not fathom was the amount of sisters who did not wear hijab but were dressed up literally to the nines. It is one thing if a sister does not wear hijab but then to go and and dress up so much in a mixed event (families were allowed to sit together on small tables). The amount of make up, slinky outfits, forearms showing. If you choose not to wear hijab then the least you can do is wear no make up, tie your hair back and cover yourself up everywhere else. The real sad thing is that the men were gawping at these women.

Sorry if I sound harsh but these sisters do not make it easy for brothers to lower their gaze. Even I was staring at them and I am a sister!!!!

[Arsalan]

unfortuantly this is true of all too many events nowadays within the muslim community, be it weddings or noble causes such as raising funds for a charitable cause.

where was this event btw?

[AbuMubarak]

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11054
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39160

[Al-ghurabah]

some sisters who wear hijab look worse. those who wear tight clothes with hijab. or super dupa bright pink hijabs.

[AbuMubarak]

ghurabaa, how old are you?

[Abu Hurairah]

Assalam Alaikum

I was at a charity fundraising dinner last week organised by muslims for the earthquake. What I could not fathom was the amount of sisters who did not wear hijab but were dressed up literally to the nines. It is one thing if a sister does not wear hijab but then to go and and dress up so much in a mixed event (families were allowed to sit together on small tables). The amount of make up, slinky outfits, forearms showing. If you choose not to wear hijab then the least you can do is wear no make up, tie your hair back and cover yourself up everywhere else. The real sad thing is that the men were gawping at these women.

Sorry if I sound harsh but these sisters do not make it easy for brothers to lower their gaze. Even I was staring at them and I am a sister!!!!

some sisters who wear hijab look worse. those who wear tight clothes with hijab. or super dupa bright pink hijabs.

:up: :up: :up: Masha'allah I couldn't agree more on these- please see links provided by brother AbuMubarak too.

[Al-ghurabah]

old enough to have a wife and kid



ghurabaa, how old are you?

[AbuMubarak]

ok, good enough of an answer

[Ptissem]

some sisters who wear hijab look worse. those who wear tight clothes with hijab. or super dupa bright pink hijabs.
I agree, you do see some girls wearing tight jeans, fitted tops and a headscarf. This is something I don't understand.

I am not going to be a hypocrite however, as I currently don't wear hijab, but I want to wear it properly when I do, with loose fitting clothing. I am adapting myself slowly and Insha'Allah I will be wearing it sooner rather than later.

But I don't understand why you would cover your head but not your behind? Surely it should be the other way round?

[Abu Hurairah]

I agree, you do see some girls wearing tight jeans, fitted tops and a headscarf. This is something I don't understand.

I am not going to be a hypocrite however, as I currently don't wear hijab, but I want to wear it properly when I do, with loose fitting clothing. I am adapting myself slowly and Insha'Allah I will be wearing it sooner rather than later.

But I don't understand why you would cover your head but not your behind? Surely it should be the other way round?

Alhamdulillah sis. jezak'allah for your honesty and indeed your observations are so true- may Allah (swt) make it easy upon you on your road to pleasing him insha'allah- Ameen.:up: Soon you will no longer look like this :cool: nor this :asta: but look like this:75: or even this:hidban:

[Billie]

Alhamdulillah sis. jezak'allah for your honesty and indeed your observations are so true- may Allah (swt) make it easy upon you on your road to pleasing him insha'allah- Ameen.:up: Soon you will no longer look like this :cool: nor this :asta: but look like this:75: or even this:hidban:

lol....nice explanation brother ^

i agree with u sister, my lil sis does the same and i'm forever telling her off, its as important to cover the rest of ur body as the upper part of the torso & head. inshallah she will learn the meaning of my lectures some day :rolleyes:

[Al-Irhaab]

lol....nice explanation brother ^

i agree with u sister, my lil sis does the same and i'm forever telling her off, its as important to cover the rest of ur body as the upper part of the torso & head. inshallah she will learn the meaning of my lectures some day :rolleyes:

you need to tell them when they were young, when my younger sis was at 10 I explained to her about the hijab etc and its importance then about 6 months of discussing I said you cant go out anywhere without hijab on so she put it on, the same was redone with jilbab at 14 and alhamdulillah she loves wearing them.

[Abu Hurairah]

i agree with u sister, my lil sis does the same and i'm forever telling her off, its as important to cover the rest of ur body as the upper part of the torso & head. inshallah she will learn the meaning of my lectures some day http://ummah.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Insha'allah sis. you keep doing your bit to help her.:up:


you need to tell them when they were young, when my younger sis was at 10 I explained to her about the hijab etc and its importance then about 6 months of discussing I said you cant go out anywhere without hijab on so she put it on, the same was redone with jilbab at 14 and alhamdulillah she loves wearing them.

Excellent advice bro. masha'allah- your and your sisters reward awaits with your Lord insha'allah. A good patient practising rolemodel is hard to find. :up:

[janathi]

Assalam Alaikum

I was at a charity fundraising dinner last week organised by muslims for the earthquake. What I could not fathom was the amount of sisters who did not wear hijab but were dressed up literally to the nines. It is one thing if a sister does not wear hijab but then to go and and dress up so much in a mixed event (families were allowed to sit together on small tables). The amount of make up, slinky outfits, forearms showing. If you choose not to wear hijab then the least you can do is wear no make up, tie your hair back and cover yourself up everywhere else. The real sad thing is that the men were gawping at these women.

Sorry if I sound harsh but these sisters do not make it easy for brothers to lower their gaze. Even I was staring at them and I am a sister!!!!

Assalamualykum wrwb

Subhanallah! its not just a blessing in this life but plenty more virtues await those who wear the Jilbaab and Hijaab Masha'allah.!

May Allah (swt) guide the sisters of the Ummah !!

Insha'allah

Ameen

May Allah (swt) bless all sisters and brothers with Athaab (manners) and Modesty!

Insha'allah

Ameen

Alhamdulillah!

Wa'salaam

[MMS]

summin i realised is men gawp at u if u dont wear hijaab n they still gawp at you even if you do
Only difference is if u wear hijaab u get more beardos gawpin at you :rolleyes:

anyhoot wudnt it be better if you went and spoke to these sisters instead of making threads saying how astaghfirullah they are :s

[Abu Hurairah]

summin i realised is men gawp at u if u dont wear hijaab n they still gawp at you even if you do
Only difference is if u wear hijaab u get more beardos gawpin at you http://ummah.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Yes, unfortnately sickos do come in different variations- some so-called practising and others utter out right jahils and some down right confused but all sickos nonetheless.

anyhoot wudnt it be better if you went and spoke to these sisters instead of making threads saying how astaghfirullah they are :s

Jezak'allah for the nasihah, though I'm sure it could of been put in a nicer manner- insha'allah the sis. will take it on board and act accordingly.

[Billie]

you need to tell them when they were young, when my younger sis was at 10 I explained to her about the hijab etc and its importance then about 6 months of discussing I said you cant go out anywhere without hijab on so she put it on, the same was redone with jilbab at 14 and alhamdulillah she loves wearing them.

we both started wearing a hijab 5 yrs ago, but whereas my clothes r loose fitting (except when i am at home with my family) my sister wears jeans and short kurtas.

its my lil sister im most worried about, she's 17 & wears tight fitting clothes. she refuses to listen to me when i tell her to cover up :(

pls pray to Allah that they both learn to do purdah

[ur_yusra]

I think if I was running an event I would write on the publicity leaflet all sisters are required to wear hijab and appropriate action will be taken if any man fails to lower his gaze. (although ideally it would be segregated), anyway as for teaching blood sisters to wear hijabs and jilbabs its great but one has to be careful, Are u teaching them to wear it in order to please Allah (swt), or are u just saying..look these are the rules u have to follow them khalas.. Its so important to teach the younger siblings love for Allah (swt) and love for the prophet (saw) THIS IS A PRIORITY because I know many sisters whose parents or their brothers said they had to wear jilbab and so they do, BUT when thier brother or parent isnt around they remove these garments. This is evidence that the action is carried out to please the advisor rather then Allah (swt). With my siblings I focus on talking about Allah (swt), about jannah, about yawmal qiyamah and about the ambiya (as), what I find is that they automatically start carrying out acts of obedience like salah and covering without being told!! (subhanAllah!!) This is the method that I find works best personally. Intention is the essence by which all actions are based. If there is an error in intention then there will inevitably be an error in the action.

[Al-Mujaddidah]

Well said sister Yusra :up:

Many important points there

JazakAllaahu Khayr

[Proud_2B_Muslim]

as for teaching blood sisters to wear hijabs and jilbabs its great but one has to be careful, Are u teaching them to wear it in order to please Allah (swt), or are u just saying..look these are the rules u have to follow them khalas.. Its so important to teach the younger siblings love for Allah (swt) and love for the prophet (saw) THIS IS A PRIORITY

With my siblings I focus on talking about Allah (swt), about jannah, about yawmal qiyamah and about the ambiya (as), what I find is that they automatically start carrying out acts of obedience like salah and covering without being told!! (subhanAllah!!) This is the method that I find works best personally. Intention is the essence by which all actions are based. If there is an error in intention then there will inevitably be an error in the action.

Sister, I completely understand and agree with what you posted. When my younger cousin was here in the U.S., we would just sit after salah and discuss the beautiful aspects of our deen. She was 9 years old at the time, yet was so mature, Masha'Allah. I would tell her about the different prophets (peace be upon them) and we'd skim through Islamic catalogs, marking down which books we wanted to buy. She'd say, "Api [sister], I want this one and this one and I like this..." :)

:masha:, I could see the love of Allah (SWT) she carried in her heart. Our constant discussions made her more thirsty for knowledge, Masha'Allah. Once, after waking up in the morning, I saw her just lying in bed and as soon as she saw my eyes open, she proceeded to ask me for information/clarification about a prophet (peace be upon him) we had discussed earlier. :)

Masha'Allah, she is such a precious, precious jewel and I love her so much for the love she has for Allah (SWT) and our beautiful religion. :love:

She is 14 now, Masha'Allah, and I only hope for the best for her. May Allah (SWT) protect her always and make her one of the inhabitants of the highest paradise. Ameen.

I wanted to share her story, sister, because I believe in this method you use with your family. Developing and nurturing the love of Allah (SWT) is one of the best ways for children to begin making Islam the focal point of their lives.

[-Espérer-]

or super dupa bright pink hijabs.

It can't be haram wearing colourful hejabs, or can it? I've worn a red niqab, blue niqab and a pink niqab. :s I didn't get any more/less stares then I always do anyway :s

[Al-Irhaab]

there must be a dual approach used sometimes words arent good enough, if they were the prophet (saw) wouldnt have advised us to discipline children who dont pray at the age of 9.

When you teach your younger siblings about Islam you must teach them before the duties become incumbent upon them. With my sister I talked to her for a good couple of months about the beauty of the hijab etc and she understood it and the punishment for not wearing it and she understood that to. But she lacked the will to put it on herself so I forced her to, the reason being is that sooner or later it would become obligatory on her to wear it and then both her and me would be accountable for her not wearing it. When she grew she understood more and more the need to wear it and then whether I or anyone else is present to tell her is not important she knows that her lord sees her.

Again in regards to the jilbab she understood its obligation but was scared of what her friends and the rest of the family would think. But once we banned her from going anywhere and she tried it a couple of times she realised that it was more important to please Allah (swt) then anyone else. Now she has a large collection of jilbabs, though i did have to ban some of the more modern ones, like this frizzy jilbab thing, dont know who invented that but that was not to my liking at all :nono:

but anyway I think im boring everyone with big brother talk, I feel sorry for brothers with more then one sister how do they cope :rolleyes:

[AbuMubarak]

akhi

what you did with your sister is also what a father must do, and it is also what all muslims should do, even taliban had to do it

yes, we all know what is fard and what isnt, sometimes, the shaytan whispers to us to disobey the fard, so we have brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts, taliban, government or whoever, to provide a mechanism which makes it difficult for us to disobey Allah

thus, society benefits as well as the individual.

this "free to do whatever you want to do" is for the birds,

nope, even birds submit to Allah

[Proud_2B_Muslim]

there must be a dual approach used sometimes words arent good enough, if they were the prophet (saw) wouldnt have advised us to discipline children who dont pray at the age of 9.

When you teach your younger siblings about Islam you must teach them before the duties become incumbent upon them. With my sister I talked to her for a good couple of months about the beauty of the hijab etc and she understood it and the punishment for not wearing it and she understood that to. But she lacked the will to put it on herself so I forced her to, the reason being is that sooner or later it would become obligatory on her to wear it and then both her and me would be accountable for her not wearing it. When she grew she understood more and more the need to wear it and then whether I or anyone else is present to tell her is not important she knows that her lord sees her.

Again in regards to the jilbab she understood its obligation but was scared of what her friends and the rest of the family would think. But once we banned her from going anywhere and she tried it a couple of times she realised that it was more important to please Allah (swt) then anyone else. Now she has a large collection of jilbabs, though i did have to ban some of the more modern ones, like this frizzy jilbab thing, dont know who invented that but that was not to my liking at all :nono:

but anyway I think im boring everyone with big brother talk, I feel sorry for brothers with more then one sister how do they cope :rolleyes:

Brother, I hope you (or anyone else) did not mistake my post to mean there should be no discipline. Of course, there should be a way to enforce the fardh on the children. A child may whole-heartedly believe and accept an Islamic obligation, but lack the willpower to practice it, as you mentioned.

I believe sister ur_yusra was trying to say there is a difference between just simply telling a child, "You must obey this, " without offering any explanation whatsoever as opposed to actually discussing the importance, punishment, rewards, etc of a particular fardh. With the first case, as the sister mentioned, the children neglect their duties when the elders are not around and simply perform them for the sake of their families, not for the sake of Allah (SWT). Yet, with the second instance, a child is much more obliged to follow through with his/her responsibility--like your own sister.

Essentially, we should begin by trying to make a child understand (through discussion and other similar methods) and if there is still a lack of willpower, then we should begin the enforcement. So yes, a dual approach is most certainly needed in many occasions. Insha'Allah I hope this rids my earlier post of any misunderstandings.

[Al-ghurabah]

there are conditions to hijab. im sure theyh ave been posyted here before. one of thenm is not bright clothes. or dazzling. others are tight, clothes of other belifs. clothes of opposite sex. im sure others here can elaborate and give more detailed asnwer with evidences




It can't be haram wearing colourful hejabs, or can it? I've worn a red niqab, blue niqab and a pink niqab. :s I didn't get any more/less stares then I always do anyway :s

[Ptissem]

summin i realised is men gawp at u if u dont wear hijaab n they still gawp at you even if you do
Only difference is if u wear hijaab u get more beardos gawpin at you http://ummah.com/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Yes, unfortnately sickos do come in different variations- some so-called practising and others utter out right jahils and some down right confused but all sickos nonetheless.

anyhoot wudnt it be better if you went and spoke to these sisters instead of making threads saying how astaghfirullah they are :s

Jezak'allah for the nasihah, though I'm sure it could of been put in a nicer manner- insha'allah the sis. will take it on board and act accordingly.
haha, thanks brother, you made me laugh and have hope at the same time. Thanks for your dua, may Allah t'ala bless you!

[Ptissem]

Alhamdulillah sis. jezak'allah for your honesty and indeed your observations are so true- may Allah (swt) make it easy upon you on your road to pleasing him insha'allah- Ameen.:up: Soon you will no longer look like this :cool: nor this :asta: but look like this:75: or even this:hidban:
haha, thanks brother, you made me laugh and have hope at the same time. Thanks for your dua, may Allah t'ala bless you!

[Ummati Al Islam]

It can't be haram wearing colourful hejabs, or can it? I've worn a red niqab, blue niqab and a pink niqab. :s I didn't get any more/less stares then I always do anyway :s

Sister, women are told not to make a display of themselves in front of their non-mahrem. Sisters are also told not to adopt an appearance whereby one may catch people's attention (intentionally/unintentionally.) Tabaraj - a dazzling appearance - defeats the purpose of Hijab in its entirety.

[-Espérer-]

Wow. :outta:

I guess I owe my Lord an apology, then.

Damn.. It's a little bit sad, I love my bright Hejabs and Neqabs.

Hey, when sisters wear jilbab that have those really glitzy beads on them, that twinkle when any light falls on them... Is that not haram?

I'm not into glitzy jilbabs.. but I do love my pink one. *sniff,sniff*

[Ummati Al Islam]

Wow. :outta:

I guess I owe my Lord an apology, then.

Damn.. It's a little bit sad, I love my bright Hejabs and Neqabs.

Hey, when sisters wear jilbab that have those really glitzy beads on them, that twinkle when any light falls on them... Is that not haram?

I'm not into glitzy jilbabs.. but I do love my pink one. *sniff,sniff*

Well sis, a little bit of hardship in this world will entitle you to rewards in Jannah InshAllah. I must stress I am in no qualified position to give a Fatwah but the Fatwah that is universal is that anything Tabaruj must be avoided. Therefore the shade of the actual Khimar or the shade of the Niqab may be taken into account. Similarly, with regards to the beads, it depends on the extent of them - are they dazzling? You can get some beads that are really plain and when light goes on them, nothing twinkles! You can also get some that give you the appearance of a lightbulb! SubhanAllah. Therefore, every circumstance incurs a different Fatwah.