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Ebony
03-11-05, 11:14 AM
Indian men go tall, fair and handsome


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif By Monica Chadha
BBC News, Mumbai

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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40970000/jpg/_40970516_pack.jpg India's skin-lightening (http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=skin%20lightening) cream industry is valued at over $190m

All is fair. So believes an Indian cosmetics company that has launched a new skin-lightening cream exclusively for men in an attempt to target the growing number of metrosexual males.



Called Fair and Handsome, the advertisement for the product gives the message: be fair or remain in dark oblivion.



Until now, skin-lightening creams have been aimed almost exclusively at women. This is the first launched nationally for men.



Surveys carried out by cosmetics companies suggest growing numbers of Indian men are using the creams.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gifhttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif Our initial worry was men would be shy and not buy it. But these fears have proven unfounded http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif


Emami director Mohen Goenka





Emami Industries, which launched Fair and Handsome, said its research showed that figure was 29%, which some might find unlikely.

But the firm's director, Mohen Goenka, says: "We tested the product in the southern city of Hyderabad and the response was much better than we expected.



"There is no doubt men are becoming conscious of their skin. We realised there was a ready market for a product like this and began selling it across the country."



He added: "Our initial worry was men would be shy and not buy it. But these fears have proven unfounded."



'Wheat fields'



The domestic skin-lightening cream industry is valued at over $190m - a strong indicator of the great Indian obsession with fair skin.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gifhttp://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40970000/jpg/_40970524_jerry.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif There's not one guy who admits to being dark and attractive, they just say we are wheatish and fair http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif


Jerry Pinto,
Man's World magazine



Mothers are known to tell their daughters not to play in the sun and to be sure to apply sunscreen when they go out because no man would want a dark bride.



Editor of men's magazine, Man's World, Jerry Pinto, says most dark-skinned men are as insecure as women and go to equal lengths, albeit secretly, to achieve lighter skin.



"I don't think men share this notion of tall dark and handsome," he says.

"In India, it's tall, fair and handsome. A look at the matrimonial section, which is a very good way of seeing how men look at themselves, there's not one guy who admits to being dark and attractive, they just say we are wheatish and fair.

"So there is just not one dark-skinned person in this country, they are all rolling wheat fields of masculinity."

Prof Shallini Bharat, a socio-psychologist with the Tata Institute of Social Sciences, believes this complex is a result of the country's history.



http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40970000/jpg/_40970522_store.jpg Fears men would be too shy were unfounded, the company says





"India's rulers have always been fair, be it the Aryans in the early centuries or Europeans in later years. Fairness is equated with superiority, power and influence, therefore the preference for lighter skin."



Most advertisements for the creams tend to portray that dark skin will hold a person back, whereas fair skin will mean social acceptance and even success in the chosen profession, as well as among the opposite sex.

The advert for the male cream shows a dark-skinned college boy relegated to the back seat and ignored by the girls until he uses the product. Soon enough, his complexion lightens and girls flock to him like moths to a flame.

Prof Bharat says this sort of advertising is not good for Indian society as it promotes fair skin in a country where a large percentage of the population is dark.



Curiosity

However, the commercial has certainly been effective in boosting sales.



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http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/start_quote_rb.gif Men are no longer shy of admitting they want to look good http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/end_quote_rb.gif


Bhavin Parikh



At a big shopping store in southern Mumbai (Bombay), men did not seem shy of picking up the cream along with their groceries.

Banking professional, Bhavin Parikh, says fair skin is an issue for both sexes and men are now becoming more open about using skin care (http://www.serverlogic3.com/lm/rtl3.asp?si=22&k=skin%20care) products.



"Previously, men believed that they are not supposed to use fairness creams and this was the domain of ladies only. However, times have changed now and we too are trying out new products to take care of ourselves.

"Men are no longer shy of admitting they want to look good."

Amit Gaikwad, a business manager, said he would not mind trying out the cream but only out of curiosity and not a deep-rooted desire for fair skin. "I think it depends from person to person, some might prefer to be fair while some might not. To me, it doesn't matter. I think you should be the way you are."


:rolleyes:


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revert-haan ji
03-11-05, 11:33 AM
:D malik i will buy u some for eid LOL

ur_yusra
03-11-05, 12:26 PM
whats up with men these days.. they're all turning into girls..

Al-Mujaddidah
03-11-05, 01:03 PM
Ewwww....man that's just 3ajeeb

They're not 'men' - they're 'girly men'...:\

Al-Irhaab
03-11-05, 01:26 PM
I bet both of you will make your husbands buy that if theyre not light skinned he he he every womans dream nowadays :rolleyes:

ur_yusra
03-11-05, 02:11 PM
I bet both of you will make your husbands buy that if theyre not light skinned he he he every womans dream nowadays :rolleyes:

erm...no but if he didnt have a beard id make him grow one.. and i'd sort out his wardrobe.. light skin is nice.. but darker skin is too..

Al-Mujaddidah
03-11-05, 05:24 PM
[QUOTE]erm...no but if he didnt have a beard id make him grow one[QUOTE]

:up:

May Allaah SWT grant you a pious husband sis Aameen

Shaheed aboo waleeds beard was cool...and khattabs :\ (RahimahumAllaah)

theoliveone
03-11-05, 05:42 PM
Indian men go tall, fair and handsome


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif By Monica Chadha
BBC News, Mumbai


This in part explains the envy Indians feel for their lighter coloured counterparts in Pakistan.

Abdul-Curim
03-11-05, 05:54 PM
This in part explains the envy Indians feel for their lighter coloured counterparts in Pakistan.

the hindus envy pakistanis on everything ;)

.: Anna :.
03-11-05, 07:50 PM
oh thats just stupid

wat is the point of lightening ur skin :rolleyes:

darker one looks nice :D like my hubby :inlove: masha allah

MivharMeni
04-11-05, 02:37 AM
whats up with men these days.. they're all turning into girls..

Yes, yes they are.

peace2u
04-11-05, 04:19 AM
I bet both of you will make your husbands buy that if theyre not light skinned he he he every womans dream nowadays :rolleyes:

not every woman's dream :rolleyes:


Peace

mara
04-11-05, 07:17 AM
The cream makes their skin softer? more soft or what?:scratch:

peace2u
04-11-05, 08:04 AM
whiter


Peace

Ebony
04-11-05, 08:11 AM
The Indian subcontinent shifts large quantities of these skin whitening creams. They are obviously oblivious to what it does to their skin in the long run.

But what the heck, nevermind that, so long as you look jaundiced its all good :up:

:rolleyes:

mara
04-11-05, 05:48 PM
I can't believe it. How can their skin to become whiter? If thats true why Michael Jackson went under surgery only to make his skin whiter? And i understood he was not really far from skin cancer because of that.:scratch:

MMS
04-11-05, 05:53 PM
being a shade lighter doesnt make an ugly person un-ugly :rolleyes:

mara
04-11-05, 06:07 PM
being a shade lighter doesnt make an ugly person un-ugly :rolleyes:
The indian are not ugly mens. Why are you saying that. And don't forget the beauty of indian woman also were recognize at miss contest shows. They are beautiful :)

SoulAsylum
04-11-05, 06:10 PM
being a shade lighter doesnt make an ugly person un-ugly :rolleyes:

So true MMS.........ugly is ugly and good looking is good looking nevermind how dark or light you are :up:. Mind you there are things you can do make yourself look better, like using moisturiser and stuff.

MMS
04-11-05, 06:10 PM
i said ugly person not ugly indian person :p

mara
04-11-05, 06:13 PM
i said ugly person not ugly indian person :p
Sorry, you have right here :p . I became little sensitive at this issue after so many times they are attack :).
We should accept how we look.I think the cream its still to protect their skin, its cold outside :)

SoulAsylum
04-11-05, 06:15 PM
i said ugly person not ugly indian person :p

Yeh u did.......all i said was that making yourself look lighter does'nt make you less ugly if thats what you are. :p

MMS
04-11-05, 06:18 PM
Yeh u did.......all i said was that making yourself look lighter does'nt make you less ugly if thats what you are. :p

sorry my comment was at mara not you, i should have quoted it :)

SoulAsylum
04-11-05, 08:27 PM
sorry my comment was at mara not you, i should have quoted it :)

No problem :)

Billie
06-11-05, 08:26 PM
my hubby is a shade darker than me but still very handsome.....mashallah.... :) and i love him as he is......i wouldn't change him for the world :inlove:

that is called unconditional love....true love.....

Supernova Nebula
06-11-05, 11:42 PM
the whites like to get tanned, the Indians like to get lighter. I think Wacko Jacko looked better before he bleached his skin. it's all about self esteem.

Muslimah006
07-11-05, 12:38 AM
Good old shaytaan up to his old little tricks again I see. I went to ( kick me now please) see a bollywood movie this past weekend for eid b/c my friend is a nut for them, Shadi no.1 or something anyways there is this random fella in it who all the girls screamed for, b/c he was 'good looking' which was complete bs. it was b/c he was light skinned( in fact he was half irani and half indian). Anyways Yusuf(as) was Hebrew and he was the most beautiful of all of mankind so that should say something to ya. I think shaytaan loves for people to feel insecure about themselves ( you're too fat, too dark, too short) but we should say ado billAllahi iminal shaytaani rajiin, since to critique the creation of Allah like that would be to say Allah(swt) had some short coming when he created this person. Anyways my 2 cents, I personally think a person's character and sense of humor make them more appealing anyways.

Wsalam

Guardian Hijab
07-11-05, 01:33 AM
Good old shaytaan up to his old little tricks again I see. I went to ( kick me now please) see a bollywood movie this past weekend for eid b/c my friend is a nut for them, Shadi no.1 or something anyways there is this random fella in it who all the girls screamed for, b/c he was 'good looking' which was complete bs. it was b/c he was light skinned( in fact he was half irani and half indian). Anyways Yusuf(as) was Hebrew and he was the most beautiful of all of mankind so that should say something to ya. I think shaytaan loves for people to feel insecure about themselves ( you're too fat, too dark, too short) but we should say ado billAllahi iminal shaytaani rajiin, since to critique the creation of Allah like that would be to say Allah(swt) had some short coming when he created this person. Anyways my 2 cents, I personally think a person's character and sense of humor make them more appealing anyways.

Wsalam
:up:

abdusamad
07-11-05, 01:35 AM
Lazy men... Tell them there is something called "shower" take a shower perhaps ya wont get dark from dirt then..:rolleyes:

Salahudin
07-11-05, 04:24 AM
I blame bollywood :bangbang:

mara
07-11-05, 08:32 AM
the whites like to get tanned, .
good observation :)Only in my town are at least 30 solar salon where the womens can tan themselfs. To be white its not in fashion in this days.

Billie
07-11-05, 09:22 AM
Good old shaytaan up to his old little tricks again I see. I went to ( kick me now please) see a bollywood movie this past weekend for eid b/c my friend is a nut for them, Shadi no.1 or something anyways there is this random fella in it who all the girls screamed for, b/c he was 'good looking' which was complete bs. it was b/c he was light skinned( in fact he was half irani and half indian). Anyways Yusuf(as) was Hebrew and he was the most beautiful of all of mankind so that should say something to ya. I think shaytaan loves for people to feel insecure about themselves ( you're too fat, too dark, too short) but we should say ado billAllahi iminal shaytaani rajiin, since to critique the creation of Allah like that would be to say Allah(swt) had some short coming when he created this person. Anyways my 2 cents, I personally think a person's character and sense of humor make them more appealing anyways.

Wsalam

exactly my thoughts.... i would rather live with a average looking good muslim man than a good looking bad one......after all what's in the person's heart reflects on the person's face.

Hekmaa
07-11-05, 09:28 AM
This colour complex thing has been going on in india for centuries, but it became worse after the english rule.


They might as well open their doors for some colour mixing. Or some other form of Nazi white breeding lol

Supernova Nebula
07-11-05, 12:19 PM
lol, trust me, to some women, Ben Afleck or Brad Pitt - (sorry i dont really know any bollywooders except the Khans which always confuse me lol) looking guys dont attract them at all... so guys, dont worry if u dont look like them, dont try so hard lol

Ebony
07-11-05, 12:21 PM
Within Hinduism (my understanding of it) a caste system exists, ranging from the Brahmin (who are the elite caste) to the untouchables (the lowest of the low).

Most often than not, because fair skin was associated with status, success and beauty (this was before the English came into rule), it became the desired (as it was believe to aid - to a certain extent - in distinguishing between the castes) and anything deviating from it indicated mixed blood (therefore unwanted)

But of course the English and their ways,mannerisms, skin tone were seen to represent all that was good and so if you looked like them, it'd bring good fortune your way.

All a load of pap :rolleyes:

mara
07-11-05, 05:41 PM
But of course the English and their ways,mannerisms, skin tone were seen to represent all that was good and so if you looked like them, it'd bring good fortune your way.

Why are you saying that:scratch: . After me the english people didn't do anything good in india. And why the indian people are so after english? mannerism? I can see only a lot of selfishness.

in_exile
07-11-05, 05:57 PM
i bet half the gujjerati brothers are flying to india to buy this some1 explain to them how to buy over the net :rolleyes:

abdusamad
07-11-05, 06:26 PM
One more stupid line goes down the drain....



" i like my man like my coffee... hot and black"


now its more like....


" i like my man like my milk.... cold and white"


one name comes in mind.....



MICHAEL JACKSON

Ebony
07-11-05, 06:47 PM
Why are you saying that:scratch: . After me the english people didn't do anything good in india. And why the indian people are so after english? mannerism? I can see only a lot of selfishness.

The english may very well have milked the country dry, but there were some people who envied their lifestyle (as there are some to this day who envy the lifestyle of the kuffar). They were seen as civilised and "composed" in comparison to the almost animalistic tendencies of their own.

MalikOne™
07-11-05, 06:48 PM
" i like my man like my coffee... hot and black"


:rofl1: Wallah u crack me up, this aint tha place for your husband advertisements :D

mara
08-11-05, 07:54 AM
i bet half the gujjerati brothers are flying to india to buy this some1 explain to them how to buy over the net :rolleyes:
What do you want to say by that:S

mara
08-11-05, 07:58 AM
They were seen as civilised and "composed" in comparison to the almost animalistic tendencies of their own.
They never had animalistic tendencies and we should not forget their civilisation bring to the west the value of family life. Only them can save the west decadent way of lifestyle.

Supernova Nebula
12-05-06, 11:01 AM
le bump:D

Quest
13-05-06, 03:23 AM
loooooooool this is hilarious

personaly i like tanned men brown envelope complexion nice

the darker the berry the sweeter the juice, it depends on a guys features, some dudes fair skin doesnt suit, and some dark skin doesnt suit in my opinion jet soft hair and dark copper skin is (no comment)

but thats just my opinion:D