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Nour-al-Islam
05-08-02, 11:24 AM
Assalamu alikum,

i'd like just to know, if u r sunnit, shiit, sufi or ahmadiyya??

:rolleyes:

Nour

muawiyah
05-08-02, 01:52 PM
i am a sunni and confident that my path is correct and the straight way!

AbuMubarak
05-08-02, 01:52 PM
sorry, i am just muslim

Saleh Ali
05-08-02, 02:21 PM
Subhanallah Nour-Islam, Sufism is Not an Own sect! It is Part of Ahle Sunnah, Sufi is the One Who Love To establish the Remembrence of Allah, Why are ýou making A Diffirence AND DIVISION between Ahle Sunnah and Sufism, Why DONT MAKE A VOTE ABOUT How manY WAHABIS THEIRE ARE HEAR?

Nour-al-Islam
05-08-02, 02:24 PM
I am sorry Saleh Ali, i am quite new in Islam so plz forgive me...

Hafiz
06-08-02, 03:09 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Saleh Ali
[B]Subhanallah Nour-Islam, Sufism is Not an Own sect! It is Part of Ahle Sunnah, Sufi is the One Who Love To establish the Remembrence of Allah.QUOTE]

Yes, Sufis are those closer to Allah. They are indeed part of Ahle Sunnah.

obsidian
06-08-02, 08:30 PM
I would tend to agree with Raafi, I regard myself as a
Muslim <full stop>

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Noor
08-08-02, 07:46 PM
Just a muslim sis Nour.

seven
08-08-02, 08:34 PM
i'm sorry, but i have to differ from the people who curse the sahabas [ra]

angelgirl101
09-08-02, 03:40 AM
I am Muslim, plain and simple. When we start getting divided into sects, our power is divided and lost. I don't agree with sects.

bentaldeen
12-08-02, 01:26 AM
bismillah

salamu alikum nour-al-islam!

i'm a simple muslim too.(alhamdulilah)

(greetings to germany;))

alikum salam

Nour-al-Islam
13-08-02, 07:07 PM
Thank you for greetings, bentaldeen ;)

EVILution
17-08-02, 01:22 PM
Muslims.....no disunity, all unity!

EVILution
17-08-02, 01:22 PM
Muslims.....no disunity, all unity!

EVILution
17-08-02, 01:22 PM
Muslims.....no disunity, all unity!

muawiyah
17-08-02, 07:01 PM
muslim youth so do u declare that Qadianis are muslims too and we should be united with them?

Nour-al-Islam
17-08-02, 07:03 PM
What are qadianis :confused:

Ammarah
12-08-03, 01:08 PM
I'm Muslim, khalas..

Ammarah
12-08-03, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Nour-al-Islam
What are qadianis :confused:

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16221&highlight=qadian

Latifa
12-08-03, 02:13 PM
I would class myself as being Muslim too and I have to agree Sufism is not a sect.

baba
12-08-03, 03:19 PM
I believe that anyone who has recited the Shahadah is a Muslim.

peace2u
12-08-03, 04:28 PM
:(


Peace

Sajeela
12-08-03, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by muawiyah
i am a sunni and confident that my path is correct and the straight way!
I totally agree with that statement.
A poll should be posted Who is a true muslim. It would be better than that topic.

.: Anna :.
12-08-03, 10:33 PM
Salaam

Like alot of other people have said, I am a muslim thats all.
I think its a shame that we divide ourselves into little groups and then argue among ourselves n stuff, we should be united together especially when they are so many kaffirs in the world who are against us. we shouldnt be against each other aswell!!

Talib
12-08-03, 10:43 PM
Im a Muslim and i agree with both Muawiyah and Seven..

Fi Amaan Allaahi

qaatil
15-08-03, 04:30 PM
dont u mean r u sunni or kaafir?
im salafi follower of the quran , sunnah and pious generations
no taqlid no sufiism no taweel no ta'leel

peace2u
16-08-03, 03:28 PM
No, I think she meant are you muslim or kafir.


Peace

peace2u
22-08-03, 04:12 PM
We all know that, I think that is why he was laughing even though it wasn't really that funny :rolleyes: But still, no reason to get rude about it using foul language. :nonono:


Peace

poiuyt
22-08-03, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by peace2u
We all know that, I think that is why he was laughing even though it wasn't really that funny :rolleyes: But still, no reason to get rude about it using foul language. :nonono:


Peace

If it wasnt that funny, i didnt see anyone come out here fast enough and condemn his laughter. So please dont start preaching your tripe to me.

haqa
23-08-03, 11:02 AM
sorry abt that, it just that once a non-muslim was talking to me and he start talking abt shias, and he said hessitatingly "Shiits", i wasnt sure what he was ona abt then i realised he was talking abt shias. Its just sometimes people read it how it is.

Justcurious
23-08-03, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by haqa
sorry abt that, it just that once a non-muslim was talking to me and he start talking abt shias, and he said hessitatingly "Shiits", i wasnt sure what he was ona abt then i realised he was talking abt shias. Its just sometimes people read it how it is.

Shia = Shiite. Right?

peace2u
23-08-03, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by poiuyt
If it wasnt that funny, i didnt see anyone come out here fast enough and condemn his laughter. So please dont start preaching your tripe to me.


Don't worry, I'm not a preacher:rolleyes:



Peace

.: Anna :.
23-08-03, 04:33 PM
I'm not a moderator or anything, but I'd just like to say that I don't appreciate seeing people being called a s.... head on here.
It's sposed to be a muslim board, is it really appropriate to come out with foul mouthed insults?

baba
23-08-03, 04:50 PM
OMG! :rotfl:

Justcurious
23-08-03, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by baba
OMG! :rotfl:

May I ask you, what does OMG mean? Not Object Management Group, which is one meaning?

A non-English speaker sometimes has difficulties.

Kaiser
23-08-03, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Justcurious
May I ask you, what does OMG mean? Not Object Management Group, which is one meaning?

A non-English speaker sometimes has difficulties.

It usually means "Oh my god"

Justcurious
23-08-03, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Kohr-Ah
It usually means "Oh my god"

Thanks! Interestinly, it doesn't mean Oh my Allah! ;) But on the other hand, Islam it not a very old religion yet.

Kaiser
24-08-03, 06:49 AM
Nope, it hasnt got anything to do with it, its more more of a term of speach implying that that theres something big or well it points out at some event or something like that, it doesnt have anything to do with religion.


You know, the funny thing is that, I knew that you would reply to it like you did.

haqa
24-08-03, 09:39 AM
Some peep do say OMA - Oh My Allah. Its new to me

.: Anna :.
24-08-03, 10:38 AM
salaam

Oh my Allah is gramatically incorrect tho innit? cuz can you have a definite article and a possessive together? don't think so :p
maybe I'm wrong tho...anyway Allah and God are the same so I dont think it matters if u say OMG instead

Kaiser
24-08-03, 03:47 PM
Who added "Buff Ting" to the option ?

peace2u
25-08-03, 04:24 AM
Who else:D

Peace

Kaiser
25-08-03, 05:27 AM
I know, it was probably baba, the only person who talks about it.

Lateafha
15-09-03, 12:53 AM
I am a slave of Allah and believe in the Quraan . I am a proud follower of nabi mohamed Sala-lahu-alaihi-wasalam.

Why should i be part of people who blow other muslims while they're standing in salat, a'u'dubilah? Why should i be part of people who have more loyalty to their sects than to the actual word of ALLAH? I ask Allah to never make me be part of them.

Peace

Muslim Sista
17-09-03, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by angelgirl101
I am Muslim, plain and simple. When we start getting divided into sects, our power is divided and lost. I don't agree with sects.

i totally agree

baba
17-09-03, 09:12 PM
Alhamdulillah, 52% of Muslims are buff :D

peace2u
18-09-03, 07:14 AM
and just who counted??

Peace

guile
18-09-03, 09:48 AM
Just Muslim.

Umar ibn al-Khattab
25-09-03, 05:27 AM
what is BUF?

Brother_Daniel
29-09-03, 03:54 AM
Assalaamu alaikum,

I consider my self a Muslim who believes in the tawheed of Allah and the prophethood of Muhammad (s.a.w). I follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad. If we divide into sects we only hurt oursleves. The kufar want us to be divided. Abnd since when are Ahmadiyya Muslim? They are kufar like the Baha'is or the Nusayris and Druzes.

wa salaam

muawiyah
01-10-03, 03:20 PM
I follow the Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad.
And this is what is actually meant by a Sunni Muslim which is a Muslim the sticks to the Quran and Sunnah. all the other groups who call themselves muslims are deviants and bound to hell.

Brother_Daniel
21-10-03, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by muawiyah
And this is what is actually meant by a Sunni Muslim which is a Muslim the sticks to the Quran and Sunnah. all the other groups who call themselves muslims are deviants and bound to hell.

I guess I would have to call myself a Sunni Muslim to seperate myself from the bidah and shirk of groups like the Soofies and the Shi'ites.

peace2u
26-10-03, 05:21 AM
by calling yourself a muslim, you do seperate yourself from the other groups who have taking on different names.


Peace

Talib H Mohomet
02-11-03, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by muawiyah
And this is what is actually meant by a Sunni Muslim which is a Muslim the sticks to the Quran and Sunnah. all the other groups who call themselves muslims are deviants and bound to hell.


sufism is part of ahlus sunnah wa jamaat

KB1
30-11-03, 08:15 PM
one question, whats a sunnit?, you know i herd of sunnis, and those who claim to follow the sunnah but whats a sun-nit? a huge firey headlice that only affects the Sun? - that would explain the solar flairs of late.

And BTW ahmadies, if that who you where refering to in one of your poll choices, are not muslims they belive in prophet after mohammad (pbuh) so they isnt muslims, jus like i ain christain cos even though i belive in isa (pbuh) i belive in a prophet after him(pbuh)

haqa
04-12-03, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by KB1
one question, whats a sunnit?, you know i herd of sunnis, and those who claim to follow the sunnah but whats a sun-nit? a huge firey headlice that only affects the Sun? - that would explain the solar flairs of late.

And BTW ahmadies, if that who you where refering to in one of your poll choices, are not muslims they belive in prophet after mohammad (pbuh) so they isnt muslims, jus like i ain christain cos even though i belive in isa (pbuh) i belive in a prophet after him(pbuh)

its just the ways hes spelt it , like the wya he spelt shia, its jus different way.

Aiasha
07-12-03, 06:00 PM
ok well every sect has differnt beliefs pplz
dats y ther dif secs..duhh
and iam sunni alhumidillah
nd um, btww were all muslims w/ mixewd up bliefs
that rong
y cant we unite nd believe as 1 islamic ummah
qadianis aint muslims

Aiasha
07-12-03, 06:17 PM
sunni muslims r called sunni, coser they the only true ones,
pplz made there own sects, so we had to make a name to keep clean form the rest of the trash goin around

wuts a buff ting?

.: Anna :.
07-12-03, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Aiasha
sunni muslims r called sunni, coser they the only true ones,
pplz made there own sects, so we had to make a name to keep clean form the rest of the trash goin around

wuts a buff ting? a ting (ie thing) which is buff ;)

haqa
08-12-03, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Aiasha
wuts a buff ting?

i think it means good-looking

DALMAR
31-12-03, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Brother_Daniel
I guess I would have to call myself a Sunni Muslim to seperate myself from the bidah and shirk of groups like the Soofies and the Shi'ites.

I agree with you 100% you and brother Mauwiya.

peace2u
07-01-04, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by Aiasha
sunni muslims r called sunni, coser they the only true ones,
pplz made there own sects, so we had to make a name to keep clean form the rest of the trash goin around



Only Allah (swt) is the judge of who is true and who isn't. The prophet (saw) said there would be 73 sects and only one would be on the straight path, he did not say they were the sunni's or what ever name is floating around. We should show a little more patience to all of our brothers and sisters and try to lead them by our own actions. You can't call someone trash when the whole of the sunni population ain't too clean itself. It's best to leave off the names and just stick to what Allah (swt ) has named us and His messengers before us, "MUSLIM".



Peace

Shades
25-07-04, 04:57 PM
...well i think the choices...and the poll itself is trash....

we shouldn't be classifying our selfs into sects...
its true that there are different schools of thoughouts.....with diff. veiw on just a few issues.....
but classifying our self into one catergory is blind stupidity....

We are told in the Quran..that muslims got nothing to do wid those who divide themselfes into groups~......

...and btw..Ahmediyaa are not Muslims....

Abdullah al-Muhajir
25-07-04, 09:33 PM
I am merely a Muslim. :inlove:

ukhtuk_fillaah
01-09-04, 02:51 PM
Subhanallah Nour-Islam, Sufism is Not an Own sect! It is Part of Ahle Sunnah, Sufi is the One Who Love To establish the Remembrence of Allah, Why are ýou making A Diffirence AND DIVISION between Ahle Sunnah and Sufism, Why DONT MAKE A VOTE ABOUT How manY WAHABIS THEIRE ARE HEAR?As-Salaamu 'alaykum;

wahhabees? This is a bad name given to people who strictly follow Quraan and Sunnah and not a particular scholar. They don't call themselves Wahhabees but rather some of them (or many of them) call themselves Salafee, referring to the thought that they follow the pious predecessors, as-salafus-saalih.

We shouldn't divide in sects but this is something that is bound to happen. Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam himself said that this ummah will be divided in 73 sects and all of them except one will go to hell-fire. And he said that the best of people are his generation and those who follow them.

The Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: "The best of people is my generation and then those follow them and then those who follow them, then lies will be widespread." Saheeh: Related by al-Bukhaaree (no. 2652) and Muslim (no. 2533).

Anas (ra) reports that the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said : ".... And my Ummah will divide into 73 sects, all of them in the fire, except for one." So it was said: " O Messenger of Allah, who are they?" so he said: "They are those who are upon what I am upon today and my companions." Ibn Maajah, declared Saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani.

wa assalaamu 'alaykum,
Umm Zayd

Al-Nasser
02-09-04, 12:54 PM
sunni...Alhamdullah

i am from the only 100% sunni country in the world.....it was liberated from the Shia rule by Saladin and since then it's a 100% sunni country...praise be too Allah and thanks to Saladin.

dhakiyya
04-09-04, 11:37 AM
sunni...Alhamdullah

i am from the only 100% sunni country in the world.....it was liberated from the Shia rule by Saladin and since then it's a 100% sunni country...praise be too Allah and thanks to Saladin.

What country is that then? I don't know much about Salahuddin except that he liberated Jerusalem and parts of Palestine, and Palestine is not 100% sunni, so what country is it?

AbuMubarak
04-09-04, 11:42 AM
muslim (no other prefix)

Al-Nasser
04-09-04, 12:17 PM
What country is that then? I don't know much about Salahuddin except that he liberated Jerusalem and parts of Palestine, and Palestine is not 100% sunni, so what country is it?

Egypt. :)

AbuMubarak
04-09-04, 12:22 PM
land of hosni mubarak, enemy of the muslims

and the coptics

and the pyramids

and a city called, alexandria

and masgid and gumua

and a lot of french dialect

dhakiyya
04-09-04, 12:35 PM
Egypt. :)


Aha, I'll have to do more research about Salahuddin, I did know he ruled Egypt - I just forgot :rolleyes:

Ameera
05-09-04, 12:42 AM
What is Buff Ting?

Khuzamah
05-09-04, 09:47 AM
What is Buff Ting?
umm.. well, its something good :D

lonely_me
05-09-04, 02:29 PM
It broke my heart to read 'Which Islam do you believe in'...ya Allah!!...

Ahlam
05-09-04, 03:32 PM
what am i?

i'm merely human!

i do not differ from you.

yet you ask me again,

who are you?

i tell you the same!

i am who i am!

i am proud to say who i am!

I am a muslim.

yet you don't understand.

how can i simplify myself?

i can't!

i am not an algebra formulae.

I am a musilm!

Ameera
05-09-04, 10:14 PM
umm.. well, its something good :DSomething good? but what exactly?

Crono
06-09-04, 07:33 AM
IMO, anyone who ajoins themselves with any 'sect' is kufr...though this is just me, and what i have learned from Qur'an and Sunnah, so i have come to the conclusion that i am a Muslim, it amazes me, all the people in here says they are just muslim..yet only 3 people chose Muslim in the poll..and i am one of them...

marjan
06-09-04, 07:38 AM
Oh dear Shiit vs Shiite. I guess the double i serves a purpose.

.: Anna :.
06-09-04, 08:10 AM
IMO, anyone who ajoins themselves with any 'sect' is kufr...though this is just me, and what i have learned from Qur'an and Sunnah, so i have come to the conclusion that i am a Muslim, it amazes me, all the people in here says they are just muslim..yet only 3 people chose Muslim in the poll..and i am one of them...err thats cos that option was only added to the poll after nearly everyone voted.....

:rofl1: @ marjan

Crono
06-09-04, 06:22 PM
oh, ok

Qassami
06-09-04, 09:29 PM
sunni...Alhamdullah

i am from the only 100% sunni country in the world.....it was liberated from the Shia rule by Saladin and since then it's a 100% sunni country...praise be too Allah and thanks to Saladin.
Sorry to burst ur bubble :rubeyes: :D , but you do have ahlu'Shi3aa in Misr :p and many, and I mean many (something like 9/12 million heads) of the ahlu'Tassawuf.

Al-Nasser
06-09-04, 09:48 PM
noooooooooooooo, no shias at all!!!!

not a signle shia at all, maybe less than 100 shia or something because of Sunni/no Egyptian shia marriage but non Egyptian Shias at ALL...i assure you....God!!...i'm here for 25 years and i didn't see a single shia :D

as for Sufis i was talking about the Sunni/Shia thing....and sufis are everywhere...there is even shia sufis....

you know Dr Mustafa Mahmoud? he is considered a Sufi but in the same time we can't say he is not sunni!!!...

Crono
07-09-04, 08:07 PM
divideing the muslims is a sin, the best thing would be to just say muslim, and not call someone shia, sunni, etc

Qassami
07-09-04, 08:10 PM
[QUOTE=Al-Nasser]as for Sufis i was talking about the Sunni/Shia thing....and sufis are everywhere...there is even shia sufis....QUOTE]

lol, yea, they are everywhere :D but most of them adhere to the sound 3qeedah!

ThE aPpReNtIcE
23-10-04, 01:30 PM
alhamdulah i adhere tot he quran and sunnah of the prophet (pbuh)..so yep a sunni lol..

$i$ter
23-10-04, 03:24 PM
salaam...

Ahem....

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem....

'And hold fast (tight), all of you together to the rope of Allah (ie. this Qur'an), and be not devided among yourselves...'
Surah 3. Al-Imran.
Verse 103

Hadith...
It has been said by Abu Hurairah RA the prophet SAW said:
"The Jews and Christians were devided into seventy-one and seventy-two religious sects, and this nation will be devided into seventy-three religious sects.- All in hell, exept one, and that one is the one on which I and my companions are today"

hw r we to knw wich group is da one?



... i am a muslim simple & pure, living my life as a a muslim to the best of my ability!

and Allah knws best!

ma slm...x
sis in Islam!

faqir
24-10-04, 08:33 AM
Ibn Abbaas Radhi Allaahu Ta'ala 'anhu has said in the tafseer of Surah Aal Imraan ayaah 106 that the people whose faces will be brightened will be the Ahl us Sunnah and those whose faces will be darkened will be the Ahl ul Bida'h (tafseer ibn katheer)




وقوله تعالى: {يوم تبيض وجوه وتسود وجوه} يعني يوم القيامة حين تبيض وجوه أهل السنة
والجماعة، وتسوّد وجوه أهل البدعة والفرقة، قاله ابن عباس رضي اللّه عنهما.
[تفسير ابن کثير آل عمران ١٠٦]


Read also: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40906&highlight=title+sunni+divisive




Man arada minkum bi habuhat al-jannati fal yulzim al-jama`at


"Whoever among you wants to be in the middle of Paradise, let him cling to the Congregation."


[Saheeh] Tirmidhi

ThE aPpReNtIcE
24-10-04, 11:15 AM
jazakum allah khiar brother faqir.

ponderingstar
25-10-04, 10:59 AM
Dagnammit! i voted i was a muslim but i'd forgotten that i was a Buff Ting.

ThE aPpReNtIcE
29-10-04, 12:13 PM
Wat is a buff ting?

angelgirl101
01-11-04, 12:08 PM
Salaam,

I am Shi'a Alhamdulillah.

Mary Carol
01-11-04, 03:15 PM
Salaam,

I am Shi'a Alhamdulillah.

:up:

I remember you were debating whether to be known as Sunni or Shi'a.

I support you in your decision.

Love you for the sake of Allah (swt) sis.

Nettle
01-11-04, 10:03 PM
.

ponderingstar
01-11-04, 10:16 PM
:rotfl: I fins it hilarious that so many peeps are walking around asking "what is a buff ting?" It's very cute.

Buff: attractive, in shape, etc.

Ting: slang for "thing"

A buff ting: somone who is an attractive thing.

if you pronounce the "ting" with a very slight west indian accent you'll get the hang of it.

:up:

Nettle
01-11-04, 10:27 PM
22:77 O you who believe, bow down and prostrate yourselves and serve your lord, and do good that you may succeed.

22:78 And strive hard for Allah with due striving. He has chosen you and has not laid upon you any hardship in religion, the faith of your father Abraham. He named you Muslims before and in this, that the messenger may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of witness to the people; so keep up your prayer and pay the poor-rate and hold fast to Allah. He is your protector; excellent the Protector and excellent the helper!

Nettle
01-11-04, 10:41 PM
3:64. Say: O People of the book, come to an equitable word between us and you, that we shall serve none but Allah and that we shall not associate aught with Him, and that some of us shall not take others for lords besides Allah. But if they turn away, then say: Bear witness, we are Muslims.

3:65 O People of the book, why do you dispute about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Do you not understand?

3:66 Behold! You are they who disputed about that of which you had knowledge; why then do you dispute about that of which you have no knowledge? And Allah knows while you know not.

3:67 Abraham was not a Jew nor a Christian, but he was an upright man, a muslim; and he was not one of the polytheists.

faqir
03-11-04, 12:42 PM
your point being?

Huja Usman
04-11-04, 12:22 PM
Salaam,

I am Shi'a Alhamdulillah.
Salam-alaykum. How can you say alhamdulilah after it?

Maybe you dont know much about that cult, But please reead more, May Allah swt guide you

Sophiya
04-11-04, 06:28 PM
i know- and mariam- how can you justify encouraging someone into bidah?

omario
05-11-04, 11:12 PM
there are sufis within sunnis and shias believe it or not. It is just a method of worshipping Even sufis in sunni is quite similar to sufi in shia.

ONE UMMAH
ONE UMMAH
ONE FAMILY

omario
05-11-04, 11:18 PM
Maybe you dont know much about that cult, But please reead more, May Allah swt guide you
Dear sheikh Hujja mehmet. How can you call the shia a cult? They are merely supporters of the ahlul bayt.

I know some of theyre ways are wrong and totally unrelated to Islam, i.e. hitting themselves and cursing some companions. BUT one cannot call them a cult.

Are u a salafi? if so this explains your views. BUT you ask the sister to read more. with no disrespect i believe you are in need of reading more oh sheikh, or maybe u have read but u have read from fabricated hadith written by there enemies.

Insulting another muslim's deen and making takfir on someone who isnt kafir is a grave sin sheikh.

Salam

omario
05-11-04, 11:23 PM
noooooooooooooo, no shias at all!!!!

not a signle shia at all, maybe less than 100 shia or something .Incorrect i have know of many shia in egypt, they just hide it to prevent being attacked (not physically) but it save alot of questioning. Many shias there, dont forget about sayyida zayneb, and they are known as followers of sayyida zayneb. so i am told.

Mary Carol
06-11-04, 01:00 AM
i know- and mariam- how can you justify encouraging someone into bidah?

angelgirl101 is my sister in Islam.

That's all I need to know.

Sophiya
06-11-04, 12:43 PM
which is exactly why u should be looking out for her even more

Mary Carol
06-11-04, 02:27 PM
which is exactly why u should be looking out for her even more

I look after her.

I know she used her intelligence to investigate her faith and hone in on what she believes.

I know her quest was a struggle.

Do you think she just woke up one day and and chose to be Shi'a as casually as one dons a pair of socks?

I admire her fortitude.

I support her decision.

Allah (swt) knows best.

Saifullah
22-12-04, 07:57 PM
Assalamu alaikum ...

... who started this poll ?!

I mean they are very confused!! since when did we have versions of islam ? There is only one true Islam and we are Muslims.

No offence intended, but i dont consider ahmediyyah as muslims, Allahu Alim.
and Tawassuf (Sufi) is not a sect, its an area or aspect in Islam.

UmmAyah
22-12-04, 08:02 PM
Subhanallah Nour-Islam, Sufism is Not an Own sect! It is Part of Ahle Sunnah, Sufi is the One Who Love To establish the Remembrence of Allah, Why are ýou making A Diffirence AND DIVISION between Ahle Sunnah and Sufism, Why DONT MAKE A VOTE ABOUT How manY WAHABIS THEIRE ARE HEAR?
Assalaamu alaikum,

I know this thread is only for polling purposes, but I am wondering what you consider Sufism to be.


Sufism is known as "Islamic Mysticism," in which Muslims seek to find divine love and knowledge through direct personal experience of God. Mysticism is defined as the experience of mystical union or direct communion with ultimate reality, and the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (as intuition or insight). Both the terms Sufism and Sufi beliefs have no basis from the traditional Islamic sources of the Qur'an and Sunnah, a fact even admitted by themselves. Rather, Sufism is in essence a conglomerate consisting of extracts from a multitude of other religions with which Sufi's interacted. The history of its origin is very interesting.

Anything that teaches worship in ways that were not prescribed in the Qur'an and Sunnah are no longer on the staight path but are a deviation.

For example, Sufis believe: "Allah does not distinguish between the non-believer and the Faasiq (wrong doer) or between a believer and a Muslim. In fact they are all equal to Him... Allah does not distinguish between a Kaffir or a hypocrite or between a saint and a Prophet."

I was wondering, are you okay with this?
Emily

UmmAyah
22-12-04, 08:24 PM
Assalamu alaikum ...

... who started this poll ?!

I mean they are very confused!! since when did we have versions of islam ? There is only one true Islam and we are Muslims.

No offence intended, but i dont consider ahmediyyah as muslims, Allahu Alim.
and Tawassuf (Sufi) is not a sect, its an area or aspect in Islam.
Wa alaikum assalaam sister,

I completely understand your viewpoint, and I used to feel the same way. Muslim is muslim. In many aspects that is true, but after delving into studies about shiism and sufism and others, it became evident that worshipping practices were changed and there was much deviation from the original Islam. Most followers of these "aspects of Islam" do not even realize what the fundamental beliefs of their teachings are, because if they did, they might not be adhering to it an longer. You are absolutely right, there is only one Islam, which follows only Qur'an and sunnah. These are sunni Muslims, coming from the word sunnah. No innovation is allowed, no divine intervention between an imam and God to change rules and add and delete from the religion, just pure Islam, as the Qur'an and the Prophet, peace be upon him, taught it. This is what the members that say "I am only a Muslim" are. An aspect of Islam would only be if the religion was not being changed, which is happening among the Sufi's and Shia's and so forth, so calling them "sects" is more appropriate and protects the true Islam.

Emily

King Aragorn
25-12-04, 07:17 PM
sorry, i am just muslimThat's it...not Sunni not Shia (Shiite) - but just a Muslim.

GenN
11-01-05, 07:11 AM
Assalmu alaykum,

Alhamdullillah i am a muslim.

However i am not a muslim that slanders Sahaba (shia/****te),

neither am i someone who likens Allah to his creation (salafis/wahabies)

neither am i someone who believes a prophet came after Muhammed (peave and blessings of Allah be upon him) (the qadianis/ahmadiyah),

neither am i someone who compromises sharia (modernists)

So that leaves me as being part of the ahlul sunnah (or sunni muslim for short) of which the spiritual aspect is referred to as sufism.

It amazes me that people say such naive things as "i am a muslim no other prefix" and do not care about being associated with all these deviated sects. Well on the day of qiyamah you can all say "you did not have a probelm being associated with all these people that compromised sharia, or likened Allah to his creation, or slandered sahaba etc etc etc".

Personally i would like to raise on the day of qiyamah and say that i seperated against all these other people of ahlul bidah and stuck to the pure orthodox ways of Quran and sunnah as understood by the sahaba and transmitted by 90% of the scholars of this ummah i.e Ahluls sunnah (or sunni for short).

"Ibn Abbaas Radhi Allaahu Ta'ala 'anhu has said in the tafseer of Surah Aal Imraan ayaah 106 that the people whose faces will be brightened will be the Ahl us Sunnah and those whose faces will be darkened will be the Ahl ul Bida'h (tafseer ibn katheer)
"

and Allah knows best.

jahil
11-01-05, 09:54 AM
I AM AN EX-MUSLIM!!!


seeing you fighting once again only reinforces my decision for quitting Islam so I'm EX-MUSLIM! It doesn't bother me any more what and whom you follow as the majority of you muslims believe in and act in other than what your religion says!

There is lots of divisions among you; families are didvided - brothers and sisters are divided hence by extension their children (the cousins and their children) are divided just because you tend to differe from each other on the basis of your perception of you religion!

I have only seen hatred among muslims and I personally have experienced this (though my parents were the so-cxalled sunnis).


I wondered for long long time and contemplated whether the creator who created us really wanted us to kill each other and hate each other in the name of his deen? The answer i found was NO! But I couldn't live with hypocrites among muslims anymore so decided to quit and I am at peace with myself. I never harmed anyone just because of his faith as I have always respected and shown respect to others's religion and this is what I had been taught as a muslim (When I was a muslim) but seeing the actions of muslims throughout history and in particular in the last few decades is very painful experience.

The muslims keep on victimising themselves all the time and remain in the glorious past which didn't even last for long- because of Arab tribalism!

The worst of all muslims are arabs; they are still from among the JAHILOON and dependant people on this planet; they collaborated with LAWRENCE OF ARABIA; with the USA and with the West against the Ottoman Empire and helped them topple it! But these JAHILOON arabs sold their land to jews and were sleeping at that time and now crying over the spilt milk. They deserve it because these were the people who conspired against the Turks and Turks were brave people and good muslims and today because of the treason of arabs both the turks as well as arabs are suffering and this has caused suffering among other muslims and non-muslims as well!

Luckily Islam was not propagated by arabs but by non-arabs! And I despise more these arab muslims than non-arab muslims!


you carry on with your fighting and fill your hearts with hatred as this is what you think your lord expects you to do - to slaughter his creation!

EX-MUSLIM

Unknown mc 1
11-01-05, 05:10 PM
How can u even think of classing ahmedis as muslims?!

GenN
12-01-05, 07:13 AM
I AM AN EX-MUSLIM!!!


seeing you fighting once again only reinforces my decision for quitting Islam so I'm EX-MUSLIM!

I have only seen hatred among muslims and I personally have experienced this (though my parents were the so-cxalled sunnis).


I wondered for long long time and contemplated whether the creator who created us really wanted us to kill each other and hate each other in the name of his deen? The answer i found was NO! But I couldn't live with hypocrites among muslims anymore so decided to quit and I am at peace with myself. I never harmed anyone just because of his faith as I have always respected and shown respect to others's religion and this is what I had been taught as a muslim (When I was a muslim) but seeing the actions of muslims throughout history and in particular in the last few decades is very painful experience.

you carry on with your fighting and fill your hearts with hatred as this is what you think your lord expects you to do - to slaughter his creation!

EX-MUSLIMSo Mr jahil, i hope those werent the reasons you quit Islam, becaseu if they were it only goes to show the naivety in your thought process.

first of all, how can you simply using your own mind come to the conclusion that Allah would not want you to kill others (im' not saying he does, i'm just saying how can you uses your mind to prove that he doesnt).

if you say becaseu killing is evil, then i disagree, not all killing is evil, many a time killing is justified. And many if not most amongst mankind would agree with me. So what we see here is that due to the limited nature of man's mind, man cannot conclusively decide what is wrong and what is right, hence the differneces amongst mankind in almost everything. So what is right and what is wrong? Well the best one to inform us of that would be the one that created us, Allah, as Allah is not limited like us or biast like us, he knows best. So if he says killing in certain instances is permissbale, or war is permissbale in certain instances then THAT is the right course of action and NOT what you limited mind thinks to be correct, due to the nature of it being limited and not being able to comrehensively outweigh all the pros and cons to come to the correct conclsuion (besides the fact that it is also in mans nature to be biast).

this is not being all hunkey dorey, and lovey dovey and peacey weacy, beacuse that is the way of dumb people that have failed to comprehend the nature of the universe. We need justice NOT peace. We need JUstice NOT pacifism we need equity NOT equality.

and as for you other reasons about muslims beickering and arguing and fighting well, you have to be a bit naive to base Islam on Muslims instead of Islam. becaseu you are now being a hypocryite. If you want to base Islam on Muslims, then base Humanity on mankind, and you will see how evil humanity is. Does that now mean you do not wish to be human anymore? what would you rather be, a donkey?

as for your last statement about what your lord expects from you, then tell me what you think your lord expects from you and PROVE it, beacsue without proof people can claim what they want.

jahil
12-01-05, 09:18 AM
So Mr jahil, i hope those werent the reasons you quit Islam, becaseu if they were it only goes to show the naivety in your thought process.

first of all, how can you simply using your own mind come to the conclusion that Allah would not want you to kill others (im' not saying he does, i'm just saying how can you uses your mind to prove that he doesnt).

if you say becaseu killing is evil, then i disagree, not all killing is evil, many a time killing is justified. And many if not most amongst mankind would agree with me. So what we see here is that due to the limited nature of man's mind, man cannot conclusively decide what is wrong and what is right, hence the differneces amongst mankind in almost everything. So what is right and what is wrong? Well the best one to inform us of that would be the one that created us, Allah, as Allah is not limited like us or biast like us, he knows best. So if he says killing in certain instances is permissbale, or war is permissbale in certain instances then THAT is the right course of action and NOT what you limited mind thinks to be correct, due to the nature of it being limited and not being able to comrehensively outweigh all the pros and cons to come to the correct conclsuion (besides the fact that it is also in mans nature to be biast).

this is not being all hunkey dorey, and lovey dovey and peacey weacy, beacuse that is the way of dumb people that have failed to comprehend the nature of the universe. We need justice NOT peace. We need JUstice NOT pacifism we need equity NOT equality.

and as for you other reasons about muslims beickering and arguing and fighting well, you have to be a bit naive to base Islam on Muslims instead of Islam. becaseu you are now being a hypocryite. If you want to base Islam on Muslims, then base Humanity on mankind, and you will see how evil humanity is. Does that now mean you do not wish to be human anymore? what would you rather be, a donkey?

as for your last statement about what your lord expects from you, then tell me what you think your lord expects from you and PROVE it, beacsue without proof people can claim what they want.
Same old rhetorics!

faqir
12-01-05, 09:34 AM
Your name suits you - Jahil

Makki
12-01-05, 10:02 AM
I AM AN EX-MUSLIM!!!


seeing you fighting once again only reinforces my decision for quitting Islam so I'm EX-MUSLIM! It doesn't bother me any more what and whom you follow as the majority of you muslims believe in and act in other than what your religion says!

There is lots of divisions among you; families are didvided - brothers and sisters are divided hence by extension their children (the cousins and their children) are divided just because you tend to differe from each other on the basis of your perception of you religion!

I have only seen hatred among muslims and I personally have experienced this (though my parents were the so-cxalled sunnis).


I wondered for long long time and contemplated whether the creator who created us really wanted us to kill each other and hate each other in the name of his deen? The answer i found was NO! But I couldn't live with hypocrites among muslims anymore so decided to quit and I am at peace with myself. I never harmed anyone just because of his faith as I have always respected and shown respect to others's religion and this is what I had been taught as a muslim (When I was a muslim) but seeing the actions of muslims throughout history and in particular in the last few decades is very painful experience.

The muslims keep on victimising themselves all the time and remain in the glorious past which didn't even last for long- because of Arab tribalism!

The worst of all muslims are arabs; they are still from among the JAHILOON and dependant people on this planet; they collaborated with LAWRENCE OF ARABIA; with the USA and with the West against the Ottoman Empire and helped them topple it! But these JAHILOON arabs sold their land to jews and were sleeping at that time and now crying over the spilt milk. They deserve it because these were the people who conspired against the Turks and Turks were brave people and good muslims and today because of the treason of arabs both the turks as well as arabs are suffering and this has caused suffering among other muslims and non-muslims as well!

Luckily Islam was not propagated by arabs but by non-arabs! And I despise more these arab muslims than non-arab muslims!


you carry on with your fighting and fill your hearts with hatred as this is what you think your lord expects you to do - to slaughter his creation!

EX-MUSLIM
so your a murtard and a racist?

islam's better off without you

faqir
12-01-05, 10:07 AM
Only Islam can rescue him from his jahilliyah.

[never give up hope] :)

Makki
12-01-05, 10:14 AM
you're right faqir i was just angry at this murtard

i will make dua for it

may Allah subhana wa t'ala guide you Jahil

GenN
12-01-05, 12:22 PM
Same old rhetorics!
i am dissapointed at your reply Mr jahil. if they are old rehtorics, please answer them. After all you shouldn't have a problem answering old rehtorics.

Novelist
16-02-08, 02:48 PM
Sunni!

sis_sarah
16-02-08, 02:52 PM
Sunni!

yh i second tht

Pippin1376
16-02-08, 07:08 PM
Muslim :)

Aboo Uthmaan
16-02-08, 08:05 PM
I think it should be noted that “Muslim Unity” can only be achieved when Muslims as a whole return to the Qur'aan and Sunnah upon the understanding of the Sahaabah (radee Allaahu 'anhum). Other than that, any unity is nothing more than false unity. How can a person who believes Allaah is above His 'arsh (in a manner which befits His Majesty) be united with a person who believes Allaah is everywhere in his dhat, how can person who takes the Sifaat of Allaah upon their dhaahir meanings be united with a person who makes ta'weel of them and how can a person who believes we should call upon Allaah alone be united with a person who believes we can call upon other than Allaah, be it a Prophet or a dead person in a grave. There are fundamental aspects of Islamic creed, aspects in which there is no room for difference of opinion, and if one believes there is then they should think long and hard about such a belief, for indeed it is like such a person is saying that the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) came with several creeds and not one clear one. There is a good book by a Shaykh ‘Alee bin Hasan al-Halabee entitled “Muslim Unity in Light of the Numerous Groups & Parties”, it would well be worth a read.

Muqtabis-unNoor
16-02-08, 09:15 PM
"Ahmadiyya" is not a Muslim sect.

tayfah-mansurah
16-02-08, 11:15 PM
what the hecks buff ting:confused:

Assalamu alikum,

i'd like just to know, if u r sunnit, shiit, sufi or ahmadiyya??

:rolleyes:

Nour

$HugoBoss$
16-02-08, 11:18 PM
Where's the option for wannabe :confused:

impossiblyblue
16-02-08, 11:39 PM
I'm curious, for people answering "just muslim, followers of the sunnah" ... which version of the sunnah? I answer sunni not because I consider shia people to be necessarily deviant or astray, but because when I look to the sunnah I look primarily to the resources of Bukhari and Muslim, and when I have particular questions I first turn to scholars of the four major sunni schools for their viewpoints.

Do those answering "just muslim" turn equally to, for example, Ja'fari and Hanafi fiqh? Or forego classical fiqh all together, and consider the place of disputed hadith (and the related disputed roles of narrators) equally?

I know those questions come out sounding loaded, but I'm genuinely curious.

Khuram_2k?
17-02-08, 01:33 AM
I'm curious, for people answering "just muslim, followers of the sunnah" ... which version of the sunnah? I answer sunni not because I consider shia people to be necessarily deviant or astray, but because when I look to the sunnah I look primarily to the resources of Bukhari and Muslim, and when I have particular questions I first turn to scholars of the four major sunni schools for their viewpoints.

Do those answering "just muslim" turn equally to, for example, Ja'fari and Hanafi fiqh? Or forego classical fiqh all together, and consider the place of disputed hadith (and the related disputed roles of narrators) equally?

I know those questions come out sounding loaded, but I'm genuinely curious.

i consider myself just as a muslim, when i need to know something i look at many sources wherever they may be from and then i decide which seems right and i follow it.

afsalim
17-02-08, 09:17 AM
I'm just a Muslim. Shi'ite and Sunni are only made made divisions. We all are Muslims.

DtM
17-02-08, 10:15 AM
I'm just a Muslim. Shi'ite and Sunni are only made made divisions. We all are Muslims.

I'm not. Does that mean I should not be here? Or should I start a new thred and ask the question?

UniQue_BeDouin
17-02-08, 01:21 PM
Dagnammit! i voted i was a muslim but i'd forgotten that i was a Buff Ting.

OMMG LOOL I SAY DAGNAMMIT :P

Stylish-Girly
17-02-08, 01:47 PM
i would class myself as a Buff ting

Novelist
17-02-08, 02:36 PM
I'm not. Does that mean I should not be here? Or should I start a new thred and ask the question?

Why not? I think there's nothing with your stay here.

salahuldin786
17-02-08, 02:49 PM
sunni

Hanafi madhab
Barelvi sufi's
Deobandi sufi's

Hanbali madhab
Maliki madhab
Shafii madhab

all are called ahlus sunnah wal jamaah


shia

Ja'fari madhab

Ahmadis(they are not muslim)

Ahmadis are followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (1839-1908), who founded a religious community in the late nineteenth century in what was then British India. He began to publish his Barahin-i Ahmadiyya in 1880. He declared himself a prophet in 1882.

When he died the Ahmadiyyahs split into two sects, the Qadianis and the Lahorites. The Qadianis claimed that Ghulam was a prophet, and accused all muslims who did not accept him, as being kuffar .

Salafi's a.k wahhabis

followers of muhammed abdul wahhab.

Reema
17-02-08, 11:28 PM
I is buff ting.

Dain Bramaged
17-02-08, 11:38 PM
Im bare peng :afro:

NightStar
17-02-08, 11:41 PM
Just out of curiosity, are those that do not accept books of hadiths (Bukhari, Muslim, etc) as a source of Islamic Jurisprudence viewed as Muslim by Scholars? Is there a difference in opinion on this matter?

adil786
18-02-08, 01:16 PM
I am Muslim, plain and simple. When we start getting divided into sects, our power is divided and lost. I don't agree with sects.

i totally agree with that!!! :torture::hidban:

Nihilist
18-02-08, 01:32 PM
Vote Shunnia. It's the way forward.

MANI AHMED
29-04-08, 11:58 AM
its just the ways hes spelt it , like the wya he spelt shia, its jus different way.

TERRIFYING BELIEFS OF SHI'ITES

1.

Allaah often lies and does mistakes. (usool-e-kaafi, page #328, yaqoob kulaini, vol1).
2.

The Munafiqeen (i.e. Sahaba) took very much out of Quran (took out the verses). (Ihtijaj-e-tibri, page #382).
3.

When Imaam Mehdi comes he will bring with him the real and original Quran. (Ahsan-ul-maqaal, page #336, safdar Husain najfi).
4.

The person who says that the present Quran is complete is a liar because the “complete Quran” was compiled by Hazrat Ali. (Fasl-ul-khitaab fee tahreef kitaab rab-ul- arbab, page #4, Noori Tibri).
5.

Abu Bakr is kafir and the one who loves Abu Bakr is also kafir. (Faq-ul-yaqeen, page #690, Baqar majlisi).
6.

Abu Bakr was kafir and Zandeeq. (Kashf-ul-asrar, page #69, khamini).
7.

There is no difference in Abu Bakr and mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani. (Jagir fidk, page #690, Ghulam Husain najfi).
8.

Neither we believe the Allah nor the Prophet of the God whose khalifah is Abu Bakr. (Anwar-ul-nomania, page #278).
9.

I don’t believe in that Allah who gives government to Usman and Ma’avia. (Kashf-ul-asrar, page #107, Khamini).
10.

Umar was a real kafir and Zandeeq. (Kashf-ul-asrar, Khaminee, page #119).
11.

When imam Mehdi comes he will make alive Hazrat Aa'ishah from death and whip her. (Tafseer saafi, line 16, page #108).
12.

Abu Bakr and Umar were agents of Iblees. (Hulyat-ul-mateen, mulla baqar majlisi).
13.

Hazrat Khalid bin Walid was not saif-ullah but saif-us-shaitaan. (Manazir-o-baghdad, page #100).
14.

All the Prophets will become alive from dead and start the jihad under the leadership of Hazrat Ali. (Tafseer ayyashee, page #181).
15.

Real Quran that is compiled by Hazrat Ali will come with imam Mehdi. (Anwar-ul-nomania, page #360).
16.

All Prophets are beggar at the doorstep of Ali. (khalqat-e-norania, page #201, Talib Husain karpalwi).
17.

All the prophets and Angels are the slaves of the 12 imams except Mohammad (saw). (kaleed manaazra, page #35, barkat ali).
18.

12 imams are the teachers of all Prophets except Mohammad (saw). (Majmoa-e-majalis, page #29).
19.

When imam Mehdi comes he will hang Hazrat Abu Bakr and Umar at the holy grave of Hazrat Mohammad (saw). (Majma-ul-ma’arif, page #49).
20.

If Gabriel and Mekael had loved Abu Bakr then they would have been in hell too. (Ameer mukhtar, page #8, mirza basharat Husain).
21.

After the death of Hazrat Mohammad (saw) all the Sahaba become MURTAD except three. (Roza-e-kafee, page #245)
22.

Hazrat Anas Bin Malik, Abu huraira, Amr bin Aas, Ameer Ma’avia and Aa'ishah were worst people of all times. (Makalmaat-e-husainia, page #59).
23.

Man can have Nikah (marriage) with man and his mother, sister and daughter too. (Firqa-ul-shiat, Abi Mohammad-ul-Hasan Bin Moosa).
24.

Hazrat Abu Bakr was Mushrik, Umar was Munafiq and Usman was Kafir. (Shia’an-e-ali aur inn kee shaan, page #54, ghulam husain najfi).
25.

When imam Mehdi come he will be nude and the first person who Bay’ah him is Mohammad (saw). (Haq-ul-yaqeen, page #347, Baqar majlisi).
26.

Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu) was the leader of the Munafiqeen (hypocrites).
27.

Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had prayed for the murder of Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu).
28.

The day on which Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu), was murdered by the Persian kafir, Lu'lu', is the most auspicious day of the year.
29.

Aa'ishah and Hafsah martyred Rasulullah by giving him poison. (Hayat-ul-quloob, page #870, Baqar Majlisi).
30.

Thus these two male munafiqs (referring to Abu Bakr and Umar) and those two female munafiqs (referring to Aa'ishah and Hafsah) agreed to martyr Rasulullah by administering poison to him. (Hayat-ul-quloob, page #745, Baqar Majlisi)

PK Aali
29-04-08, 01:02 PM
:salams

I'm a Muslim :|

Kasim2k7
30-04-08, 06:16 AM
I am Sunni who follow the sunnah of prophet Muhammed peace be upon him and his companions. Simple.
I dont know what you call Sufism but i believe in it too. Sufism is just the inner respect and Adab. Like Allah says in the middle of Surah Hajj and surah Hujurat.

Anikaa
30-04-08, 09:34 AM
LOL at the way the thread starter spelt, shi'ah...

Salafi here, al-humdulillaah.

Why call myself a "salafi" when Allah calls us muslims...read this:

This doubt was very beatifully answered by Imaam al-Albaani in his discussion with someone on this subject, recorded on the cassette entitled, "I am Salafi", and here is a presentation of the vital parts of it:

Shaikh al-Albaani: "When it is said to you, ‘What is your madhhab’, what is your reply?"

Questioner: "A Muslim".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "This is not sufficient!".

Questioner: "Allaah has named us Muslims" and he recited the saying of Allaah Most High, "He is the one who has called you Muslims beforehand." (al-Hajj 22:78)

Shaikh al-Albaani: "This would be a correct answer if we were in the very first times (of Islaam) before the sects had appeared and spread. But if we were to ask, now, any Muslim from any of these sects with which we differ on account of aqeedah, his answer would not be any different to this word. All of them – the Shi’ite Rafidi, the Khaariji, the Nusayri Alawi – would say, "I am a Muslim". Hence, this is not sufficient in these days."

Questioner: "In that case I say, I am a Muslim upon the Book and the Sunnah."

Shaikh al-Albaani: "This is not sufficient either".

Questioner: "Why?"

Shaikh al-Albaani: "Do you find any of those whom we have just mentioned by way of example saying, ‘I am a Muslim who is not upon the Book and the Sunnah’?" Who is the one who says, ‘I am not upon the Book and the Sunnah’?"

At this point the Shaikh then began to explain in detail the importance of being upon the Book and the Sunnah in light of the understanding of the Salaf us-Saalih…

Questioner: "In that case I am a Muslim upon the Book and the Sunnah with the understanding of the Salaf us-Saalih".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "When a person asks you about your madhhab, is this what you will say to him?"

Questioner: "Yes".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "What is your view that we shorten this phrase in the language, since the best words are those that are few but indicated the desired intent, so we say, ‘Salafi’?" End of quotation.

Hence, the point is that naming with "Muslim" or "Sunni" is not enough, since everyone will claim that. And Imaam al-Albaani emphasised the importance of the truth being distinguished from the falsehood – from the point of view of the basis of manhaj and aqidah, and that is taking from the Salaf us-Saalih, as opposed to the various sects and groups whose understandings are based upon those of their mentors and leaders and not that of the Salaf, fundamentally.

truemuslima
08-05-08, 01:31 AM
***WARNING: THIS MESSAGE MIGHT BE A LIL TINY BIT CRUEL SO IF U GET A HUUGE TEMPA OR ATTITUDE QUICK OR ARE REALLY SENSITIVE AND WILL CRY FROM THIS (:rolleyes:) THEN DONT READ DIS!!!***


:eek:
wooow i didnt kno ther was that many types of islam.........oh wait THERE ISNT!!!!!
Why yall splittin islam???
Why yall bein twisted???
At first i thought it was only shiite and sunnah
but now???
WoOW
THis is so messed up man!
THer is only ONE ISLAM
ONE ALLAH
ONE ISLAM
ONE UMMAH (apparantly not anymore...)
ONE HELL
ONE HEAVEN
ONE TRUTH

yall seriously gotta screw islam up lyk dis? man why yall gta be like dis!

Muslims alone are startin to quit
Yall makin it shia and sunnah
yo wat happened to tha ummah???

^ that was a lil part of one of my freestyle things...i messed up i gess...

i meant
muslims alone startin to quit
yall makin it shia, sunnah, sufi, ahmadiyya, buff ting
Yo wat happened to tha ummah??

ok wut the heck is buff ting btw? is it a buff chinese guy who decided to make it and call it islam?? and wuts ahmadiyya?? im not even gna try...

wuuuut evvvvvvvrrrr


p.s. sorry if neone is offended...........btw i hope yall kno my three types of offended ...:D

Wolfn
08-05-08, 01:33 AM
I want to be known as Muslim, but my beliefs follow Sunni Islam.

Anikaa
08-05-08, 10:06 AM
True-muslima: If you're reffering to me, being a salafi doesn't necesarilly mean you're apart of a new sect. I obviously do say i'm muslim as Allah ta'aala stated in the Qur'aan to call our selves muslims, but to clarify my stance in Islaam, i follow the path of the beloved Prophet [sallallaahu alayhi salaam], who told us to attach ourselves to the path of pious predecessors; i.e.: Salafus-salih :inlove: And they are the generation that came after the Prophet. After them, a lot of ahlul bid'ah appeared.

PK Aali
08-05-08, 11:11 AM
***WARNING: THIS MESSAGE MIGHT BE A LIL TINY BIT CRUEL SO IF U GET A HUUGE TEMPA OR ATTITUDE QUICK OR ARE REALLY SENSITIVE AND WILL CRY FROM THIS (:rolleyes:) THEN DONT READ DIS!!!***


:eek:
wooow i didnt kno ther was that many types of islam.........oh wait THERE ISNT!!!!!
Why yall splittin islam???
Why yall bein twisted???
At first i thought it was only shiite and sunnah
but now???
WoOW
THis is so messed up man!
THer is only ONE ISLAM
ONE ALLAH
ONE ISLAM
ONE UMMAH (apparantly not anymore...)
ONE HELL
ONE HEAVEN
ONE TRUTH

yall seriously gotta screw islam up lyk dis? man why yall gta be like dis!

Muslims alone are startin to quit
Yall makin it shia and sunnah
yo wat happened to tha ummah???

^ that was a lil part of one of my freestyle things...i messed up i gess...

i meant
muslims alone startin to quit
yall makin it shia, sunnah, sufi, ahmadiyya, buff ting
Yo wat happened to tha ummah??

ok wut the heck is buff ting btw? is it a buff chinese guy who decided to make it and call it islam?? and wuts ahmadiyya?? im not even gna try...

wuuuut evvvvvvvrrrr


p.s. sorry if neone is offended...........btw i hope yall kno my three types of offended ...:D

NICE ONE! :D

UkhtAlMuslimeen
10-05-08, 09:23 PM
...
Why call myself a "salafi" when Allah calls us muslims...read this:

This doubt was very beatifully answered by Imaam al-Albaani in his discussion with someone on this subject, recorded on the cassette entitled, "I am Salafi", and here is a presentation of the vital parts of it:

Shaikh al-Albaani: "When it is said to you, 'What is your madhhab’, what is your reply?"

Questioner: "A Muslim".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "This is not sufficient!".

Questioner: "Allaah has named us Muslims" and he recited the saying of Allaah Most High, "He is the one who has called you Muslims beforehand." (al-Hajj 22:78)

Shaikh al-Albaani: "This would be a correct answer if we were in the very first times (of Islaam) before the sects had appeared and spread. But if we were to ask, now, any Muslim from any of these sects with which we differ on account of aqeedah, his answer would not be any different to this word. All of them – the Shi’ite Rafidi, the Khaariji, the Nusayri Alawi – would say, "I am a Muslim". Hence, this is not sufficient in these days."

Questioner:"In that case I say, I am a Muslim upon the Book and the Sunnah.''

Shaikh al-Albaani "This is not sufficient either".

Questioner: "Why?"

Shaikh al-Albaani: "Do you find any of those whom we have just mentioned by way of example saying, ‘I am a Muslim who is not upon the Book and the Sunnah’?" Who is the one who says, ‘I am not upon the Book and the Sunnah’?"

At this point the Shaikh then began to explain in detail the importance of being upon the Book and the Sunnah in light of the understanding of the Salaf us-Saalih…

Questioner: "In that case I am a Muslim upon the Book and the Sunnah with the understanding of the Salaf us-Saalih".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "When a person asks you about your madhhab, is this what you will say to him?"

Questioner: "Yes".

Shaikh al-Albaani: "What is your view that we shorten this phrase in the language, since the best words are those that are few but indicated the desired intent, so we say, ‘Salafi’?" End of quotation.

Hence, the point is that naming with "Muslim" or "Sunni" is not enough, since everyone will claim that. And Imaam al-Albaani emphasised the importance of the truth being distinguished from the falsehood – from the point of view of the basis of manhaj and aqidah, and that is taking from the Salaf us-Saalih, as opposed to the various sects and groups whose understandings are based upon those of their mentors and leaders and not that of the Salaf, fundamentally.
:salams
sorry could i just ask where you got this from..???
i understand the whole just saying your sunni or a muslim is not enough.... since every group or sect will say 'we are upon the haqq...we are upon the sunnah'
its just these quotes from sheikh al-albaani ..gives the impression that salafiya is a madhab...which it isnt.
cause...the original question was..what is your madhab.

RazielTemp
10-05-08, 09:40 PM
sorry, i am just muslim

same here, there is No prefix claimed by the Quran or the Prophet :saw: ...

A Muslim is One who follows the Quran and the Saheeh Hadiths/Sunnah of Rasul :saw:,

we have many who claim to do that from different sects, but faulty beliefs (like that of many of the Shia's) can be proven to be Ba'atil ...

:jkk:

Anikaa
12-05-08, 01:29 PM
:salams
sorry could i just ask where you got this from..???
i understand the whole just saying your sunni or a muslim is not enough.... since every group or sect will say 'we are upon the haqq...we are upon the sunnah'
its just these quotes from sheikh al-albaani ..gives the impression that salafiya is a madhab...which it isnt.
cause...the original question was..what is your madhab.



Being a salafi doesn't necesarilly mean you're a new sect, but rather to remain on the path of the beloved Prophet [sallallaahu alayhi wassalam].

"The Salaf are Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah, the followers of Muhammad (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) from amongst the Companions and whoever follows their methodology until the Day of Judgement, and when the Messenger (sallallaaahu alaihi wasallam) was asked about al-Firqah an-Naajiyah (the Saved Sect), he said, "They are those who are upon what I and my companions are upon today" (Fatwaa No. 6149, 2/164).

Shaikh Ibn Uthaimeen states, "Who are the Ahl ul-Athar? They are the ones who follow the aathaar, they follow the Book and the Sunnah and the sayings of the Companions (radiallaahu anhum). And this does not befit any group (firqah) amongst the sects except the Salafiyyeen, those who adhere to the path of the Salaf…" which occurs on the first tape of his explanation of "al-Aqeedat as-Safaareeniyyah".

Likewise the Noble Shaikh stated in Sharh ul-Aqeedat ul-Waasitiyyah (1/123), "...There is no doubt, however, that one of them is truly Ahl us-Sunnah - but which one? Is it the Ash'arees, the Maatureedees or the Salafis? Whichever of them agrees with the Sunnah is considered to be Ahl us-Sunnah, whilst whichever of them opposes is not. So we say: The Salaf are Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah, and this description cannot be true for anyone else besides them. [I]Rather Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah are those who hold to what the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and his Companions were upon, and to the aqidah of the Salaf - until the Day of Judgement and they are the Salaf."

So, it is not clear to anyone nowadays when you say, i'm a sunni because of the amount of deviant sects that exist and claim that they are sunni. The Shaykh was trying to say that.

AD DEOBANDI
12-05-08, 03:17 PM
I Am Deobandi!!!!

Ibrahim70
12-05-08, 06:39 PM
Never seen it spelt as sunnit but yea Im Sunni I guess :D

Dappodan1
12-05-08, 06:56 PM
I am a muslim and seeker of truth and will take that from wherever I can find it, whether its from a Salafi, Shia, Sufi, a Christian, Jew, Hindhu.

Truth will banish all falsehood, its having the ability to able to discern the truth from devotion and study to translate that into belief, that is lifes journey, along the way you will get things right and others wrong so long as you can apply the effort and sincerity of intention then everything else is in Mercy of Allah SWT.

UkhtAlMuslimeen
12-05-08, 09:45 PM
Being a salafi doesn't necesarilly mean you're a new sect, but rather to remain on the path of the beloved Prophet [sallallaahu alayhi wassalam].

"The Salaf are Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah, the followers of Muhammad (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) from amongst the Companions and whoever follows their methodology until the Day of Judgement, and when the Messenger (sallallaaahu alaihi wasallam) was asked about al-Firqah an-Naajiyah (the Saved Sect), he said, "They are those who are upon what I and my companions are upon today" (Fatwaa No. 6149, 2/164).

Shaikh Ibn Uthaimeen states, "Who are the Ahl ul-Athar? They are the ones who follow the aathaar, they follow the Book and the Sunnah and the sayings of the Companions (radiallaahu anhum). And this does not befit any group (firqah) amongst the sects except the Salafiyyeen, those who adhere to the path of the Salaf…" which occurs on the first tape of his explanation of "al-Aqeedat as-Safaareeniyyah".

Likewise the Noble Shaikh stated in Sharh ul-Aqeedat ul-Waasitiyyah (1/123), "...There is no doubt, however, that one of them is truly Ahl us-Sunnah - but which one? Is it the Ash'arees, the Maatureedees or the Salafis? Whichever of them agrees with the Sunnah is considered to be Ahl us-Sunnah, whilst whichever of them opposes is not. So we say: The Salaf are Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah, and this description cannot be true for anyone else besides them. [I]Rather Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah are those who hold to what the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and his Companions were upon, and to the aqidah of the Salaf - until the Day of Judgement and they are the Salaf."

So, it is not clear to anyone nowadays when you say, i'm a sunni because of the amount of deviant sects that exist and claim that they are sunni. The Shaykh was trying to say that.
:salams
barakAllah feek... i agree with the above statements and understand that the salafiayh is not a sect, its just your first quote ...'what is your madhab? ' is what confused me...i seemed as if the opinion was that salafiyah is a madhab. maybe i just read it wrong or something.

perfectpearl
13-05-08, 01:14 AM
Assalamu alikum,

i'd like just to know, if u r sunnit, shiit, sufi or ahmadiyya??

:rolleyes:

Nour

whats up with the rolling eyes :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

perfectpearl
13-05-08, 01:16 AM
***WARNING: THIS MESSAGE MIGHT BE A LIL TINY BIT CRUEL SO IF U GET A HUUGE TEMPA OR ATTITUDE QUICK OR ARE REALLY SENSITIVE AND WILL CRY FROM THIS (:rolleyes:) THEN DONT READ DIS!!!***


:eek:
wooow i didnt kno ther was that many types of islam.........oh wait THERE ISNT!!!!!
Why yall splittin islam???
Why yall bein twisted???
At first i thought it was only shiite and sunnah
but now???
WoOW
THis is so messed up man!
THer is only ONE ISLAM
ONE ALLAH
ONE ISLAM
ONE UMMAH (apparantly not anymore...)
ONE HELL
ONE HEAVEN
ONE TRUTH

yall seriously gotta screw islam up lyk dis? man why yall gta be like dis!

Muslims alone are startin to quit
Yall makin it shia and sunnah
yo wat happened to tha ummah???

^ that was a lil part of one of my freestyle things...i messed up i gess...

i meant
muslims alone startin to quit
yall makin it shia, sunnah, sufi, ahmadiyya, buff ting
Yo wat happened to tha ummah??

ok wut the heck is buff ting btw? is it a buff chinese guy who decided to make it and call it islam?? and wuts ahmadiyya?? im not even gna try...

wuuuut evvvvvvvrrrr


p.s. sorry if neone is offended...........btw i hope yall kno my three types of offended ...:D


That would be nice.... but we are not and thats where reality hits.

Mujib
13-05-08, 01:35 AM
I am also against ppl how mock the sahaba's, mock abu bakr siddique and omar (ra)
Im sunni...and I believe it is the right path

truemuslima
13-05-08, 01:59 AM
That would be nice.... but we are not and thats where reality hits.

wut woud be nice? and what r u not ?



coughumustbeoneofdemcoughcough

perfectpearl
13-05-08, 02:33 AM
wut woud be nice? and what r u not ?



coughumustbeoneofdemcoughcough

I said it would be nice if we all uniting... yes it really would but the reality is we are not. We have some deviated people, we have righteous people mashaa Allah and we have people in the middle. Its good to draw a line bad and good. ;)

Do you have a bad cough? Ma3lesh habibti - may Allah cure you.

truemuslima
13-05-08, 02:45 AM
I said it would be nice if we all uniting... yes it really would but the reality is we are not. We have some deviated people, we have righteous people mashaa Allah and we have people in the middle. Its good to draw a line bad and good. ;)

Do you have a bad cough? Ma3lesh habibti - may Allah cure you.


Ooooooooooooh Ok good u betta have said that-- i mean yeh sure that all kool man i knew that was wut u said hehe

Yeh i do...i gess when i try to HIDE SOMETHING i get this HORRIBLE cough:up:

Al-jafa
13-05-08, 05:33 AM
Assahlaam Nour,
its a nice thread you post, Am SUNNI.
But i wish to said that besides many guys here are saying 'simply muslim', 'all muslim unity'......... I personnally agree with all of you but we should accept that its a fact in the muslim community of having different sects. We all well known what the; wahabis are, what the shia is!

So guys if you said you are a Muslim, then you must be a believer. If you are a Muslim believer then you believe in ALLAH and His Messeger, ok.
If that so, you are Sunni not shia or wahabis or whatever... As the laters dnt believed the same as Sunni believe :lailah:

I would appreciate if any1 can explain the differences between these sects as for our new brothers and sisters here do know that being Muslim is to accept Allah as only God and believe in His last Prophet.

Jazakallah

ALIJAN1001
13-05-08, 07:31 AM
Assahlaam Nour,
its a nice thread you post, Am SUNNI.
But i wish to said that besides many guys here are saying 'simply muslim', 'all muslim unity'......... I personnally agree with all of you but we should accept that its a fact in the muslim community of having different sects. We all well known what the; wahabis are, what the shia is!

So guys if you said you are a Muslim, then you must be a believer. If you are a Muslim believer then you believe in ALLAH and His Messeger, ok.
If that so, you are Sunni not shia or wahabis or whatever... As the laters dnt believed the same as Sunni believe :lailah:

I would appreciate if any1 can explain the differences between these sects as for our new brothers and sisters here do know that being Muslim is to accept Allah as only God and believe in His last Prophet.

Jazakallah

TERRIFYING BELIEFS OF SHI'ITES

1.

Allaah often lies and does mistakes. (usool-e-kaafi, page #328, yaqoob kulaini, vol1).
2.

The Munafiqeen (i.e. Sahaba) took very much out of Quran (took out the verses). (Ihtijaj-e-tibri, page #382).
3.

When Imaam Mehdi comes he will bring with him the real and original Quran. (Ahsan-ul-maqaal, page #336, safdar Husain najfi).
4.

The person who says that the present Quran is complete is a liar because the “complete Quran” was compiled by Hazrat Ali. (Fasl-ul-khitaab fee tahreef kitaab rab-ul- arbab, page #4, Noori Tibri).
5.

Abu Bakr is kafir and the one who loves Abu Bakr is also kafir. (Faq-ul-yaqeen, page #690, Baqar majlisi).
6.

Abu Bakr was kafir and Zandeeq. (Kashf-ul-asrar, page #69, khamini).
7.

There is no difference in Abu Bakr and mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani. (Jagir fidk, page #690, Ghulam Husain najfi).
8.

Neither we believe the Allah nor the Prophet of the God whose khalifah is Abu Bakr. (Anwar-ul-nomania, page #278).
9.

I don’t believe in that Allah who gives government to Usman and Ma’avia. (Kashf-ul-asrar, page #107, Khamini).
10.

Umar was a real kafir and Zandeeq. (Kashf-ul-asrar, Khaminee, page #119).
11.

When imam Mehdi comes he will make alive Hazrat Aa'ishah from death and whip her. (Tafseer saafi, line 16, page #108).
12.

Abu Bakr and Umar were agents of Iblees. (Hulyat-ul-mateen, mulla baqar majlisi).
13.

Hazrat Khalid bin Walid was not saif-ullah but saif-us-shaitaan. (Manazir-o-baghdad, page #100).
14.

All the Prophets will become alive from dead and start the jihad under the leadership of Hazrat Ali. (Tafseer ayyashee, page #181).
15.

Real Quran that is compiled by Hazrat Ali will come with imam Mehdi. (Anwar-ul-nomania, page #360).
16.

All Prophets are beggar at the doorstep of Ali. (khalqat-e-norania, page #201, Talib Husain karpalwi).
17.

All the prophets and Angels are the slaves of the 12 imams except Mohammad (saw). (kaleed manaazra, page #35, barkat ali).
18.

12 imams are the teachers of all Prophets except Mohammad (saw). (Majmoa-e-majalis, page #29).
19.

When imam Mehdi comes he will hang Hazrat Abu Bakr and Umar at the holy grave of Hazrat Mohammad (saw). (Majma-ul-ma’arif, page #49).
20.

If Gabriel and Mekael had loved Abu Bakr then they would have been in hell too. (Ameer mukhtar, page #8, mirza basharat Husain).
21.

After the death of Hazrat Mohammad (saw) all the Sahaba become MURTAD except three. (Roza-e-kafee, page #245)
22.

Hazrat Anas Bin Malik, Abu huraira, Amr bin Aas, Ameer Ma’avia and Aa'ishah were worst people of all times. (Makalmaat-e-husainia, page #59).
23.

Man can have Nikah (marriage) with man and his mother, sister and daughter too. (Firqa-ul-shiat, Abi Mohammad-ul-Hasan Bin Moosa).
24.

Hazrat Abu Bakr was Mushrik, Umar was Munafiq and Usman was Kafir. (Shia’an-e-ali aur inn kee shaan, page #54, ghulam husain najfi).
25.

When imam Mehdi come he will be nude and the first person who Bay’ah him is Mohammad (saw). (Haq-ul-yaqeen, page #347, Baqar majlisi).
26.

Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu) was the leader of the Munafiqeen (hypocrites).
27.

Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had prayed for the murder of Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu).
28.

The day on which Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu), was murdered by the Persian kafir, Lu'lu', is the most auspicious day of the year.
29.

Aa'ishah and Hafsah martyred Rasulullah by giving him poison. (Hayat-ul-quloob, page #870, Baqar Majlisi).
30.

Thus these two male munafiqs (referring to Abu Bakr and Umar) and those two female munafiqs (referring to Aa'ishah and Hafsah) agreed to martyr Rasulullah by administering poison to him. (Hayat-ul-quloob, page #745, Baqar Majlisi)

Al-jafa
13-05-08, 09:46 AM
TERRIFYING BELIEFS OF SHI'ITES

1.

Allaah often lies and does mistakes. (usool-e-kaafi, page #328, yaqoob kulaini, vol1).
2.

The Munafiqeen (i.e. Sahaba) took very much out of Quran (took out the verses). (Ihtijaj-e-tibri, page #382).
3.

When Imaam Mehdi comes he will bring with him the real and original Quran. (Ahsan-ul-maqaal, page #336, safdar Husain najfi).
4.

The person who says that the present Quran is complete is a liar because the “complete Quran” was compiled by Hazrat Ali. (Fasl-ul-khitaab fee tahreef kitaab rab-ul- arbab, page #4, Noori Tibri).
5.

Abu Bakr is kafir and the one who loves Abu Bakr is also kafir. (Faq-ul-yaqeen, page #690, Baqar majlisi).
6.

Abu Bakr was kafir and Zandeeq. (Kashf-ul-asrar, page #69, khamini).
7.

There is no difference in Abu Bakr and mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiyani. (Jagir fidk, page #690, Ghulam Husain najfi).
8.

Neither we believe the Allah nor the Prophet of the God whose khalifah is Abu Bakr. (Anwar-ul-nomania, page #278).
9.

I don’t believe in that Allah who gives government to Usman and Ma’avia. (Kashf-ul-asrar, page #107, Khamini).
10.

Umar was a real kafir and Zandeeq. (Kashf-ul-asrar, Khaminee, page #119).
11.

When imam Mehdi comes he will make alive Hazrat Aa'ishah from death and whip her. (Tafseer saafi, line 16, page #108).
12.

Abu Bakr and Umar were agents of Iblees. (Hulyat-ul-mateen, mulla baqar majlisi).
13.

Hazrat Khalid bin Walid was not saif-ullah but saif-us-shaitaan. (Manazir-o-baghdad, page #100).
14.

All the Prophets will become alive from dead and start the jihad under the leadership of Hazrat Ali. (Tafseer ayyashee, page #181).
15.

Real Quran that is compiled by Hazrat Ali will come with imam Mehdi. (Anwar-ul-nomania, page #360).
16.

All Prophets are beggar at the doorstep of Ali. (khalqat-e-norania, page #201, Talib Husain karpalwi).
17.

All the prophets and Angels are the slaves of the 12 imams except Mohammad (saw). (kaleed manaazra, page #35, barkat ali).
18.

12 imams are the teachers of all Prophets except Mohammad (saw). (Majmoa-e-majalis, page #29).
19.

When imam Mehdi comes he will hang Hazrat Abu Bakr and Umar at the holy grave of Hazrat Mohammad (saw). (Majma-ul-ma’arif, page #49).
20.

If Gabriel and Mekael had loved Abu Bakr then they would have been in hell too. (Ameer mukhtar, page #8, mirza basharat Husain).
21.

After the death of Hazrat Mohammad (saw) all the Sahaba become MURTAD except three. (Roza-e-kafee, page #245)
22.

Hazrat Anas Bin Malik, Abu huraira, Amr bin Aas, Ameer Ma’avia and Aa'ishah were worst people of all times. (Makalmaat-e-husainia, page #59).
23.

Man can have Nikah (marriage) with man and his mother, sister and daughter too. (Firqa-ul-shiat, Abi Mohammad-ul-Hasan Bin Moosa).
24.

Hazrat Abu Bakr was Mushrik, Umar was Munafiq and Usman was Kafir. (Shia’an-e-ali aur inn kee shaan, page #54, ghulam husain najfi).
25.

When imam Mehdi come he will be nude and the first person who Bay’ah him is Mohammad (saw). (Haq-ul-yaqeen, page #347, Baqar majlisi).
26.

Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu) was the leader of the Munafiqeen (hypocrites).
27.

Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had prayed for the murder of Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu).
28.

The day on which Hadhrat Umar (Radiallahu Anhu), was murdered by the Persian kafir, Lu'lu', is the most auspicious day of the year.
29.

Aa'ishah and Hafsah martyred Rasulullah by giving him poison. (Hayat-ul-quloob, page #870, Baqar Majlisi).
30.

Thus these two male munafiqs (referring to Abu Bakr and Umar) and those two female munafiqs (referring to Aa'ishah and Hafsah) agreed to martyr Rasulullah by administering poison to him. (Hayat-ul-quloob, page #745, Baqar Majlisi)


What the reason of saying all this???

um_omar
13-05-08, 10:25 AM
Subhanallah Nour-Islam, Sufism is Not an Own sect! It is Part of Ahle Sunnah, Sufi is the One Who Love To establish the Remembrence of Allah, Why are ýou making A Diffirence AND DIVISION between Ahle Sunnah and Sufism, Why DONT MAKE A VOTE ABOUT How manY WAHABIS THEIRE ARE HEAR?


WAHABIS is not a sect, is a name applied to the reformist Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab ( rhamat allah alih).

um_omar
13-05-08, 10:30 AM
Assahlaam Nour,
its a nice thread you post, Am SUNNI.
But i wish to said that besides many guys here are saying 'simply muslim', 'all muslim unity'......... I personnally agree with all of you but we should accept that its a fact in the muslim community of having different sects. We all well known what the; wahabis are, what the shia is!

So guys if you said you are a Muslim, then you must be a believer. If you are a Muslim believer then you believe in ALLAH and His Messeger, ok.
If that so, you are Sunni not shia or wahabis or whatever... As the laters dnt believed the same as Sunni believe :lailah:

I would appreciate if any1 can explain the differences between these sects as for our new brothers and sisters here do know that being Muslim is to accept Allah as only God and believe in His last Prophet.

Jazakallah

sbhan allah, wahabbis is NOT against sunni!!!!
wiki entry:
Muhammad ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, an Islamic scholar from what is today known as Saudi Arabia, who became known for advocating a return to the practices of the first three generations of Islamic history. Wahhabism formed the creed upon which the kingdom of Saudi Arabia was founded [1] and is the dominant form of Islam found in Saudi Arabia, and Qatar,[2] as well as some pockets of Somalia, Algeria and Mauritania.[citation needed] It is now often referred to as a "sect"[2] or "branch"[3] of Islam, though its supporters reject such designations.

The primary doctrine of Wahhabism is Tawhid, or the uniqueness and unity of God. [4] Ibn Abdul Wahhab was influenced by the writings of scholars such as Ibn Taymiyya and rejected medieval interpretations of Islam, relying on Quran and hadith. [4] He preached against a "perceived moral decline and political weakness" in the Arabian peninsula and condemned idolatry, the popular cult of saints, and shrine and tomb visitation.[4]

The term "Wahhabi" (Wahhābīya) was first used by opponents of ibn Abdul Wahhab and is considered derogatory and rarely used by the people it is used to describe, who prefer to be called "unitarians" (Muwahiddun). [5][6]

The terms "Wahhabism" and "Salafism" are often used interchangeably, but Wahhabism has also been called "a particular orientation within Salafism," [7] an orientation some consider ultra-conservative. [8][9]

perfectpearl
13-05-08, 01:23 PM
Ooooooooooooh Ok good u betta have said that-- i mean yeh sure that all kool man i knew that was wut u said hehe

Yeh i do...i gess when i try to HIDE SOMETHING i get this HORRIBLE cough:up:

:scratch:

:buttkick:

truemuslima
13-05-08, 04:18 PM
:scratch:

:buttkick:

*sigh* :D i luv it when i say something bad/evil and no one knos wut i just said...hehee lool

c0508310
15-05-08, 03:33 AM
Im Only Muslim! And We Dont Hav Any Right To Speak Ill About Others Believe!there Is No Compulsion In Our Religion!

..::Nadia::..
21-05-08, 12:34 PM
bismillah

as-salaam aleikum

i don't like the division into sects. i had a discussion with my SiL and she kinda give me the understanding that if I don't believe in sects i'm not a good Muslim. She was trying to give me some argument like prayer, how do i pray, and stuff like that. In a way a agree with her, and thinks like the Caliphat of Omar, Abu Bakr and Uthman (Allah be pleased with them) we can't just erase history. And lets be honest, how this division started, from who? As far as I know was a jew person who started, i could be wrong, Allah forgive me.

neelu
25-05-08, 11:33 PM
Buff Ting :rotfl:

irony
12-06-08, 11:56 PM
just muslim..

sada
13-06-08, 12:09 AM
bismillah...alhamdulillah being ahle sunnah wa al-jamaaah,sunni,
being follower of full shreah,Quran,Hadith,ijma,qeyaas...
being follower only Rasoolullah saw,hadrat Sahaaba r.anhum,Taabeen r.anhum,Atbaut tabeen r.anhum wa Imaams in four madhhab r.anhum...
and being respecting and admirer all Sahaba r.anhum,belieng the first one is Abu bakr r.a.,then Omar r.a.,then Osmaan r.a. and then Ali r.a.as in the order of khilaafah...
wassalam...