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Siti Hanisah
11-10-05, 05:38 AM
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In July 2003, British Muslim artist Sami Yusuf released his debut album Al Mu’allim to unprecedented acclaim and success. It was the first album by an Islamic artist to receive such success in Europe, North America, North Africa, Turkey, the Middle East, and Asia, with hits like “Al Mu’allim”, “Who Is the Loved One”, and “Ya Mustafa” being on the tongues of Muslim children and adults from London to Casablanca, and from Istanbul to Kuala Lumpur, making Sami a household name in all those regions, and selling over 1 million copies worldwide.
Now 2 years later, Sami’s second album, entitled “My Ummah,” is ready. It's a genre transcending album with melodies and lyrics that grab you after the very first listen-through. Clearly, Sami’s uniqueness is the special mix of different cultures and artistic influences that he beautifully blends into amazing songs not limited by narrow genres, but seamlessly combining several with ease. “My Ummah” has all the ingredients to become another worldwide success, inshallah. The new album deals with – amongst other things - issues such as unity, spirituality, sisters’ struggle to wear the scarf, terrorism, human brotherhood, faith, and songs about Allah and Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Find out more about Sami Yusuf, including picture galleries, the latest tour
Find out more about Sami Yusuf, including picture galleries, the latest tour news and the forum at www.samiyusuf.com (http://www.samiyusuf.com/)
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Sami Yusuf was born in the month of July 1980. He was born into a musical family of Azeri origin and thus music played an integral part in his life. Sami's initial training came from his father, who is an internationally renowned composer, poet, and a multitalented musician.
Sami grew up in London and learnt to play several instruments at a very young age and gradually began to show a keen interest in singing and composing. He studied music at several institutions and with renowned composers and musicians including composers from the Royal Academy of Music in London, one of the world most prestigious music institutions.
Sami has been composing from a very young age and his beatiful voice is supplemented by his extensive knowledge of notes and harmonies. He also has a good understanding of music theory and the Middle Eastern modes (or Maqams).
Indeed, it is rare to find a person who has all these talents. Sami is also a devout practicing British Muslim who sees songs as a means of promoting the message of Islam and encouraging the youth to be proud of their religion and ethnicity.
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masum2u
11-10-05, 05:42 AM
Assalamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullah
Brother, i don't buy....i download....lol....i'm just downloading his pop songs now...in full quality....and i am going to let ppl hear what a pop-star he is.....maybe he should go into the english R n B charts...
Fi amanillah
Wassalaam
Ive got this new album
its full of Music Completely every track has music u name it all there
Very arabic Oriented
although Few of the "songs" are good the lyrics are beautiful but unfortunately due to the excess of music the concentration is away from the lyrics and to the music instead which is a shame
The guy is good alhumdullah i gotta give him credit for introducing a new genre and style- very talented and all and he will do very well, esp to the non muslims audience and all his style is unique and very different,however i think this album will let him down a bit due to too much music in there whether it will go down well we just have to wait for the critics to come in...
but how i see it his primarily concentrating on the audience of the arab world and non muslims because of the style and genre of this album
on his album cover he justifies music as a gift from god and as a tool which i find bizzare!
Read this what he says on his cover:
Islamic Art, whether in the form of calligraphy, tiles, or music is all inspired by divine love and beauty.
Music is a gift from God and is a tool which can be used but also (as it often is) misused. Indeed, nearly all Muslim countries have a rich history of Islamic spiritual music, each with its distinctive sound and flavour.
Unfortunately, due to many reasons,this heritage has long been in decline. It is my sincere wish that this humble album be one of the many artistic endeavours being undertaken to shape a new British-Muslim or Western-Muslim culture.
Abu Haq
11-10-05, 11:20 AM
The album is a jingling top of the pops mess. He should go mainstream and become a pop star rather than prancing around using the Muslim hype to sell his trash. :55:
The cheek of the guy to justify music, one of satans tools for his own ends. :mad:
janathi
11-10-05, 12:52 PM
The album is a jingling top of the pops mess. He should go mainstream and become a pop star rather than prancing around using the Muslim hype to sell his trash. :55:
The cheek of the guy to justify music, one of satans tools for his own ends. :mad:
Assalamualykum wrwb
Yes but you have got to admit he has beautiful words in his songs unfortunately with music.
I think its beacuse he's from a background of musicians ...so he thinks music is good just as he was tought, someone ought to let him know..
he's wasting time really there's no baraka left in it!
Wa'salaam
Abu Haq
11-10-05, 01:12 PM
Assalamualykum wrwb
Yes but you have got to admit he has beautiful words in his songs unfortunately with music.
I think its beacuse he's from a background of musicians ...so he thinks music is good just as he was tought, someone ought to let him know..
he's wasting time really there's no baraka left in it!
Wa'salaam
Na'am sahih sis. I have to agree. :up: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)
TinyTerror
11-10-05, 01:15 PM
Assalamualaikum
I personally detest 'jingle-jangle' in Nasheeds! I feel it is contradictory!
Allah knows best
Wa Alaikumassalam
Abu Haq
11-10-05, 01:23 PM
Assalamualaikum
I personally detest 'jingle-jangle' in Nasheeds! I feel it is contradictory!
Allah knows best
Wa Alaikumassalam
Na'am sahih bro. I have to agree again. :up: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)
"Here take some elegant advice, and oh take the evil melody that is sinful as well" :wacko: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#) :smack: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#) @) (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#) :2hammers: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#) :evilb: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#) :confused: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#) :nono: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#) :eek: (http://www.ummah.com/forum/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)
abdusamad
11-10-05, 01:24 PM
i dislike his music, hence, music! .. mwuahahaha :p
Siti Hanisah
11-10-05, 10:31 PM
Salaam everybody,
Thanks for replying for this topic. I'm glad to hear that some of you have bought the new album. Unfortunately for me, I didn't buy yet. The album isn't here yet.
About some of the opinion about the uses of music in his album, I totally disagree. He's musician, that's right. But Islam allows the uses of music in singing. Why do you say it's haram? For me, it's a way to spread Islam. It isn't dangerous or harmful to us. Just look around you, can't you hear any music..the chirping of the bird/ the blowing of the wind/ the rustling of leaves? Aren't they music? Music is a thing which is played like when you beat the table or etc..You produce music, right?
I hope you all will think about this problem. I don't wanna see we all following the wrong path. Wassalam.
U can spread islamwithout the use of music
nasheed artists such as kamal uddin (www.kamaluddin.net) sings beautifulnasheeds withoutthe use of music
inthis way u can concentrate more on the words and lyrics rather then the music itself
So his new album is out? :s ..Wonder how it will do around the world..perhaps better in the Arab world..agree with sajid. I heard him perform one of the nasheeds b4 it was released and was really shocked...whats the point??
Siti Hanisah
12-10-05, 10:34 PM
Hmm, music is just a entertainment for us. Music is allowed when it's used in good ways. Just take for instance...like alcohol, it can be used in medicine but not to be drinked.
Umm Khadijah
17-10-05, 03:26 PM
As pointed out already, his nasheeds use music so its a no go zone for me.
abdusamad
17-10-05, 03:30 PM
i think this user is sami yusuf himself desperate for some advertisement. :rolleyes:
janathi
17-10-05, 04:01 PM
i think this user is sami yusuf himself desperate for some advertisement. :rolleyes:
Assalamaualaykum wrwb
Please Can you make nasheeds with no music in? ( the nicest way I can say it)
If You are brother Sami Yusuf the above applies to you
Wa'salaam
Abu Haq
17-10-05, 04:03 PM
i think this user is sami yusuf himself desperate for some advertisement. :rolleyes:
As sad as that may sound- it wouldn't at all surprise me. :up:
abdusamad
17-10-05, 04:05 PM
i think this user is sami yusuf himself desperate for some advertisement. :rolleyes:
As sad as that may sound- it wouldn't at all surprise me. :up:
He ones came once on msn, and we had a go at him :p
Man those are the days :)
Abu Haq
17-10-05, 04:23 PM
He ones came once on msn, and we had a go at him :p
Man those are the days :)
:up: Masha'allah bro, though next time give him nasihah and prove to him from the evidences in the Qur'an and Sunnah why what he is doing is plain wrong (avoid hating him since he is still Muslim.)
janathi
17-10-05, 06:29 PM
Assalamualykum wrwb
Masha'allah Bro
Nice piece of Advice.. (some need to put it into concideration..including myself)
.couldn't put it in different words!
Wa'salaam
abdusamad
17-10-05, 06:30 PM
He ones came once on msn, and we had a go at him :p
Man those are the days :)
:up: Masha'allah bro, though next time give him nasihah and prove to him from the evidences in the Qur'an and Sunnah why what he is doing is plain wrong (avoid hating him since he is still Muslim.)
i dont hate him, just dislike what he is doing.
im sure he is an awsome "dude" :rolleyes:
Abu Haq
17-10-05, 06:34 PM
im sure he is an awsome "dude" :rolleyes:
He may well be a nice chap and all but I wouldn't go that far. ;)
Siti Hanisah
19-10-05, 12:29 PM
Assalamualaikum..
I am ashamed to see Muslims spreading fitnah and fatwah that's not logic if it's taught deeply. People should respect others, especially muslims. But unfortunately, I can see the bad akhlak here, ya allah! As I said, Sami is in the right path. The uses of music is allowed. Can you bring me some logic proof to explain this problem. Politely, I don't wanna cause any quarrel here but I'm seeking for the truth. Tell me if u really can show the proof from Qura'n/as-sunnah/or anything related. If your statement is proved, insha allah I'll stop listening to his. May Allah guide us. Ameen.
Black_Flag
19-10-05, 12:48 PM
im sure he is an awsome "dude" :rolleyes:
He may well be a nice chap and all but I wouldn't go that far. ;)
LOLLL!!! i kno man...feel where u comin frm
Assalamualaikum..
I am ashamed to see Muslims spreading fitnah and fatwah that's not logic if it's taught deeply. People should respect others, especially muslims. But unfortunately, I can see the bad akhlak here, ya allah! As I said, Sami is in the right path. The uses of music is allowed. Can you bring me some logic proof to explain this problem. Politely, I don't wanna cause any quarrel here but I'm seeking for the truth. Tell me if u really can show the proof from Qura'n/as-sunnah/or anything related. If your statement is proved, insha allah I'll stop listening to his. May Allah guide us. Ameen.
When you listen to a song what makes it soo good?In your opinion?
the lyrics or the music?
its just a question for u
abdusamad
19-10-05, 01:15 PM
When you listen to a song what makes it soo good?In your opinion?
the lyrics or the music?
its just a question for u
can i please answer it?
abdusamad
19-10-05, 01:27 PM
LYRICS!!!!!!!!
Ive only just found out..Sami Yusuf has a Non-music version of My Ummah.
Mr_Jailer
19-10-05, 02:20 PM
Cheeky: Yes he does. I'm waitin' for it at Islamic Torrents :D
lol nice Mr Jailer.. your supposed to 'support the artist'! :p
abdusamad
19-10-05, 02:34 PM
lol nice Mr Jailer.. your supposed to 'support the artist'! :p
ask him why he sings nasheed?
is he trying to make money of islam?
if not, if it is only for DAWAH purpose.... then he wont care.
As for he needs to pay his bills... well all the screaming loyal fans, will show up at his 'gigs'.
FREE sami yusuf Cd's give me a shout ;)
i was speakign to one of his promoters the other day got told ctually reason why he did one of the track the one featuring outlandish (try not to cry) apparently he is trying to get into the mainstream -- u know the charts top 40 and all and is targeting the non muslim audience through this medium which is why he has released a musical version - Good in one respect and i see and understand why this was done......as it seems part of this agenda is trying to hit the non muslim audience into buying his album if u want to call it dawah in a strange way!
abdusamad
19-10-05, 09:08 PM
so ok.. lets do some shirk to appeal to the idol worshippers... to commit a wrong with a right intention doesnt make it all right.
He needs to straighten himself out.
masum2u
19-10-05, 09:46 PM
Assalamu 'Alaykum
WHAT!!!! He has a non-music version??? thats unbelieveable!! I have seen a ''Request'' for his non-music version, but i didnt know he had a non-music CD version......
I don't get him, is he really sincere to Allah(swt)?? Is he doing this for money or fame? Which one? Or is it sincerely for the sake of allah? I really would love to know. I am not blaming him or accusing him, but i am not really much of a fan of his anymore.
The nasheed industry is now going bonkus, and i know, coz i am in the middle of this mess. I know a lot of artists who are realeasing new albums soon, and most of them have music on them. Not only that, they will make it worse by adding a video or two to their works.
I don't like this at all, i like Sahih stuff, not these dodgy calamities that are spreading to the muslim ummah. Imagine brothers/sisters.....just say......that 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud IS right in his Hadith that rasulullah (PBUH) has made it clear that music is haram.....who will be accountable? Who will help you in the day of Qiamah? Is it gonna be bro Sami Yusuf coming to you and singing to you with his guitar? I dont think so!!! At that time....a feel of regret will pass you. Think about it.....have fear of Allah(swt) in your hearts....dont let your hearts turn black as a stone.
So brothers and sisters make availible for what is good and forbid the evil of Shaytaan, for he is the leader of Mischief and has promised to misguide us the Insaan.....so be careful in what you spread....and take for granted the Authenticity of Ahadith, for they are sayings of the Prophet (PBUH) the best of creation, don't take them light-heartedly.
I hope this benefits all, i am happy to take criticisms.
If i have said anything good, they come from Allah(swt), and whatever bad or wrong i have said comes from me and my mistakes. And i ask Allah(swt) to firgive us and save us from the fire of Jahannam, ameen.
Fi amanillah wa barakallah feekum
Wassalaam
Siti Hanisah
19-10-05, 11:26 PM
As I said nicely, I want some proof from Qura'n/ as-sunnah/ anything related to approve the statement you all giving. But where is it? Why are you now talking about fame and money? I just I wanna seek for the truth. I am not a fanatic fan of his but this prob causing other groups such as Raihan and Outlandish trouble. Don't you see that? If you're trying to say Sami's seeking money or fame , I don't think so. Maybe the uses of music in his songs attract the non-muslim listener. DON'T YOU THINK IT'S A WAY OF SENDING DA'WAH? And you ask me about qiamat. What nonsense are you talking about? No one can help us during kiamat, right? I'm listening to Sami's to increase my iman. And for those who aren't good in English, they can learn it through his work. Arts and music. Haven't you heard this before? Make some changes .
masum2u
19-10-05, 11:38 PM
Assalamu 'Alaykum
Here are some stuff which i got hold of:
Hadith - Bukhari 7:494 Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari that he heard the Prophet http://www.muttaqun.com/graphics/saaws-long.gif saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks, and the use of musical instruments as lawful. And (from them), there will be some who will stay near the side of a mountain, and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and Allah will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."
Shaykh Ibn Baz (may Allah have mercy on him) said in Majmoo' al-Fataawa, 3/423-424: "Ma'aazif refers to singing and musical instruments. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us that at the end of time there will come a people who will allow these things just as they will allow alcohol, zina and silk. This is one of the signs of his Prophethood, for all of this has happened. The hadeeth indicates that [musical instruments] are haram (prohibited), and condemns those who say they are halal (permissible), just as it condemns those who say that alcohol and zina are allowed. The aayaat and ahaadeeth that warn against singing and musical instruments are many indeed. Whoever claims that Allaah has allowed singing and musical instruments is lying and is committing a great evil. We ask Allaah to keep us from obeying our desires and the Shaytaan. Even worse and more seriously sinful than that are those who say it is mustahabb. Undoubtedly this stems from ignorance about Allaah and His Religion; it is insolent blasphemy against Allaah and lying about His Laws.
But, brother, i dont think the above is enough explanation......maybe you need a better detailed explanation, go to the following website....it is Sahih and approved by the 4 Madhabs:
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1786&CATE=142
Fi amanillah
Wassalaam
TinyTerror
19-10-05, 11:46 PM
AssalamualaikumAs I said nicely, I want some proof from Qura'n/ as-sunnah/ anything related to approve the statement you all giving. But where is it? Why are you now talking about fame and money? I just I wanna seek for the truth. I am not a fanatic fan of his but this prob causing other groups such as Raihan and Outlandish trouble. Don't you see that? If you're trying to say Sami's seeking money or fame , I don't think so. Maybe the uses of music in his songs attract the non-muslim listener. DON'T YOU THINK IT'S A WAY OF SENDING DA'WAH? And you ask me about qiamat. What nonsense are you talking about? No one can help us during kiamat, right? I'm listening to Sami's to increase my iman. And for those who aren't good in English, they can learn it through his work. Arts and music. Haven't you heard this before? Make some changes .
Listening to music and singing is a sin and cause for the sickening and weakening of the heart. The majority of the scholars of the Salaf are unanimous that listening to music and singing and using musical instruments is Haram (prohibited).
I've underlined majority becasue that's what islam is about. Nowadays you can get any scholar to give you a fatwa, heck there are some if you paid them enough they'll tell you alcohol ia halal but in islam we follow the majority of our scholars and not newcoming one-tmiers who are further seperated from the salfs by the generation!
The Prophet said:
"The best of my nation is my generation then those who follow them and then those who follow them."
Saheeh Bukhari
Below is a very detailed answer. Long but a worthy explaination
Evidence that Music and Singing are Haram
1. Allaah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/swt.gif said, translated means,
"And of mankind he who purchases idle talks to mislead (people) from the Path of Allaah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allaah) by way of mockery, For such there will be a humiliating torment."
[31:6] (http://www.orst.edu/groups/msa/quran/quran/31.html#6).
Al-Wahidi http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/rahma.gif, along with other scholars of Tafsir (explaining the Qur'aan), said that "Idle Talk" in this Ayah is singing. The following companions gave this Tafsir: Ibn Abbas, Ibn Masud, Mujahid and Ikrimah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/ranhum.gif. Ibn Masud http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/radi.gif said, "By Allaah, whom there is no God except Him, idle talk is singing."
2. The Prophet http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/saws.gif said (which means),
"From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allaah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."
[Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v] (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/069.sbt.html#007.069.494v).
This Hadeeth states that musical instruments are Haram, and there is no disagreement among the scholars on this. In his book, Ighathat Al-Lahfan, Ibn Al-Qayyim http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/rahma.gif said, "When the Prophet http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/saws.gif said, 'render as lawful,' he meant that it was unlawful, then the people made it lawful."
3. Abu Hurayrah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/radi.gif narrated that the Prophet http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/saws.gif said, what translated means, group of this nation will be transformed into monkeys and swine." They said,
"Do not they testify that there is no god except Allaah and that Muhammed is His Messenger?" He said, "Yes. And also they fast pray and perform Hajj." They said, "Then, what is their problem?" He said, "They use musical instruments, drums and female singers. (One day) they will go to sleep after a night of drinking and having fun, In the morning, they will be transformed (by Allaah) into monkeys and swine."
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4. Allaah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/swt.gif said, criticizing the Kuffar's worship around the Kaa'bah, what translated means,
"[i]Their prayer at the House (Kaa'bah) was nothing but Muka'an and Tasdiyah."
[8:35] (http://www.orst.edu/groups/msa/quran/quran/8.html#35).
Ibn Abbas, Ibn Umar, Atiyyah, Muj ahid, Ad-Dhahh'ak, AlHasan and Qatadah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/ranhum.gif said that Muka'an means whistling, and that Tasdiyah means clapping of hands.
Sayings of the Scholars Regarding Music and Singing
Imam IbnTaymiyyah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/rahma.gif said, "Listening to music and sinful fun are among what strengthens the satanic ways the most. This is exactly what the disbeliever's used to do. Allaah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/swt.gif said, And their prayer at the House (of Allaah) was nothing but Muka 'an and Tasdiyah. [8:35] (http://www.orst.edu/groups/msa/quran/quran/8.html#35). Ibn Abbas, ibn Umar and others http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/ranhum.gif said that Tasdiyah is clapping of hands, and that Muka'an is whistling. This was the Mushrikeen's way of worship. The Prophet http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/saws.gif and his companionshttp://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/ranhum.gif worshipped Allaah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/swt.gif, according to His order, in their prayer, reading the Qur'aan and Dhikr (supplication). It never occurred that the Prophet http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/saws.gif and his companions http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/ranhum.gif gathered to listen to singing that is accompanied by clapping or using drums."Imam Ibn Taymiyyah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/rahma.gif also said regarding the person, whose habit is to listen to music,
"His state of emotions becomes less passionate when he hears the Qur'aan. On the contrary, when he listens to instruments of the devil (music), he dances a lot. If the prayer is established, he either prays while sitting down or performs it as fast as when the roaster picks seeds. He dislikes listening to the Qur'aan and does not find beauty in it while reciting it. He has no taste for the Qur'aan and feels no love for it or pleasure when it is read. Rather, he finds pleasure if he listens to Mukaa' or Tasdiyah. These are satanic pleasures and he is among those whom Allaah mentioned in the Ayah,
And whosoever turns away from the remembrance of the Most Beneficent (Allaah), We appoint for him Satan to be a companion for him.
[43:36] (http://www.orst.edu/groups/msa/quran/quran/43.html#36)." [Awliyaa' Ar-Rahman].
Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/rahma.gif said,
"Of the tricks of the enemy of Allaah, Satan, that he uses to trap those who do not enjoy much intelligence, knowledge or sincerity in religion, are M ukaa' and Tasdiyah. These people of ignorance listen to and use musical instruments that are prohibited and which lead the hearts to abandoning the Qur'aan. These hearts are indulging in sin and disobedience of Allaah. Music, then, is Satan's Qur'aan and the barrier between one and Allaah. It is the way to sodomy and adultery. With it, the lover finds what he seeks and dreams of sinful love. Satan has trapped the weak hearts in the love of singing and made it beautiful to them. Satan reveals to his agents' fake proofs that they use as evidence to the beauty of singing. These people accept Satan's revelation and, as a consequence, abandon the Qur'aan. When you witness them while listening, you will find them silent in humbleness, sitting idle and their hearts are concentrating and totally enjoying music and singing. Their hearts will feel closer to music, as if they were drunk. They dance and move in a suggestive manner, like faggots and whores. And why not? They are drunk with the pleasure of listening to music and singing and act accordingly. For other than Allaah, and for Satan, there are hearts that are being broken by sin, and fortunes that are being spent for other than Allaah's Pleasure. They spend their lives in joyful fun and make a mockery of their religion. Instruments of the devil are sweeter to their ears than the Qur'aan. If one of them listens to the Qur'aan from beginning to end, it will have little effect or excitement on him. If Satan's Qur'aan is being performed and heard, they feel joy in their hearts and one can see it in their eyes. Their feet dance, their hands clap, their breathing intensifies and the rest of their bodies feel joy. O you who are trapped in this sin, you who have sold your share of Allaah to Satan, what a losing deal! Why not feels this joy when you listen to the Qur'aan? Why not feel pleasure and comfort when the Glorious Qur'aan is recited? But, everyone seeks what he feels is suitable for him, and ends up with what is really suitable for him." .
Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Baz http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/rahma.gif was asked about listening to music and songs, "Is it Haram? I only listen to it for pleasure. What about playing the Rababah (a kind of guitar) and old songs? What about using drums in weddings?" Sheikh Ibn Baz said, "Listening to music is Haram and a sin. It is a matter that leads to weakening the hearts and abandoning the Dhikr of Allaah and the prayer. The scholars said about the Ayah, [i]And of' mankind he who purchases idle talks [31:6 (http://www.orst.edu/groups/msa/quran/quran/31.html#6)], that idle talks means singing. Abdullaah ibn Masud http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/radi.gif, the Prophet's http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/saws.gif companion, used to swear by Allaah that it is singing. If singing is accompanied by the Rababah, 'Ud (Arabic guitar), fiddles or drums, it is even more Haram. Any singing with any instrument is Haram and the scholars are unanimous on this. Therefore, Muslims must be aware of it. The Prophet http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/saws.gif said, "From among my nation there will be those who render as lawful adultery, silk (for men), AI-Khamr (alcohol) and musical instruments." [Al-Bukhari] (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/069.sbt.html#007.069.494v). I advise you and others to read the Qur'aan and keep remembering Allaah. I advise you to listen to Qur'aanic programs on the radio. This way, one will find pleasure and will keep busy so he can stay away from music and songs. As for weddings, the Daff (tambourine) can be used along with innocent singing that does not call to sin. This can be done at night, only in weddings and only by and for women. These songs are a way of announcing an Islaamic marriage. The Sunnah of the Prophet http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/saws.gif supports the above. As for the drums, they are Haram all the time. The Daffis permitted in weddings and only for and by women."
Many Muslims today render music as permissible. This is due to their ignorance or outright defiance of the religion. We ask Allaah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/swt.gif that we are among those who listen to the speech and follow the best of what it contains. These are the ones whom Allaah http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/1716/swt.gif has guided and granted them the bounty of sanity and comprehending minds.
Wa Alaikumassalam
Arsalan
21-10-05, 03:03 PM
Downloaded the album
its bollywood stylee is off putting n all those instraments.. couldnt he just stick to duff?
needless to say iam disappointed and wont by buying the CD :)
samis releasing a video for one of the tracks Hasbi rabbi
gonna be shot in 4 diff locations UK,turkey,Egypt and india considering its in 4 diff languages
wonder if bollywood maycome to it :p
His video's arent relevent at all to what he's singing. Wherever they are shot, he's dressed smartly - probably in very expensive clothes and designer houses/flashy cars in the background and very classy settings overall.
'My Ummah' - a lot of the ummah lives in poverty, how are they represented?
masum2u
21-10-05, 11:39 PM
Assalamu 'Alaykum
Waste of time....waste of money.....why cant anyone do things in simplicty......i mean.....if ur gonna make a video, make it, but make it in simplicty and relevant not something that shows off the appearance......coz thats like Ri'a.....or showing off....
I don't like nasheed videos anymore...they are actually imitating Kuffar styles.....and needless to say 786 and some of Native Deen's tracks are actually the tones and styles taken from kuffar artists, such as N*Sync and these other Hip Hop groups in America...
I would be better off praying behind a Qari/Huffaz and listening to the beautiful Qur'an being recited. :) by the way....my fav is Ibrahim Al Jobreen, Sa'ad Al Ghamidy, Yahya Hawwa, Abu Bakr Ash Shatri and also Mishary Rashid Al Afasy :)
Fi amanillah
Wassalaam
Does anyone want sami yusuf's new album?
It is available on coolgoose.com
just register and search with artist name and u'll find it
and if anyone wants any other nasheed album let me know
Siti Hanisah
22-10-05, 11:06 PM
Thanks
-Espérer-
24-10-05, 06:46 PM
I'm not really a Sami Yusuf's fan... But I liked his Al Muallim.. Just that one song..
He's so yumsome :faint:
I know, I should lower my gaze, but that's a bit hard when you have his photo's everywhere!
Abu Haq
24-10-05, 06:57 PM
I'm not really a Sami Yusuf's fan... But I liked his Al Muallim.. Just that one song..
He's so yumsome :faint:
I know, I should lower my gaze, but that's a bit hard when you have his photo's everywhere!
As deeply troubling as that may sound this has become a fact, he's a pin up for many sisters that have been swept away by his looks and words- I never thought I'd see the day that a Muslim would reach the no go area of dizzy heights of fame and fortune ranking besides Western super-stars but alas the time has come unfortunately and this will indeed open the doors to a barrage of fitnah.
abdusamad
24-10-05, 06:59 PM
I'm not really a Sami Yusuf's fan... But I liked his Al Muallim.. Just that one song..
He's so yumsome :faint:
I know, I should lower my gaze, but that's a bit hard when you have his photo's everywhere!
Sad!
That your admitting it on this board.
-Espérer-
24-10-05, 07:06 PM
Wow you guys are like super-masha-ALLAH-religious. May Allah accept you as rightly guided muslims and give the rest of us the hidaya to be the same. amen.
I know it's wrong, but its hard to look away too.. What with my friends working with him and always sending me updates with his pics... :s
why can nasheed artists be anonymous? like release nasheeds without ppl having to see what they looked like?!
Once upon a time, Bukhatir was like that.
btw, I dunno what the girls see in sami yusuf, nothing special.
abdusamad
24-10-05, 07:11 PM
why can nasheed artists be anonymous? like release nasheeds without ppl having to see what they looked like?!
Once upon a time, Bukhatir was like that.
btw, I dunno what the girls see in sami yusuf, nothing special.
*clears throat* *jumpz into an amreekani girly personality*
" He is sooo totally like, like totally sooo totally there!... he Rocks totally he is soo charming , like totally hot!"
*clears throat* *jumpz into an amreekani girly personality*
" He is sooo totally like, like totally sooo totally there!... he Rocks totally he is soo charming , like totally hot!"
Jump right out akhi....doesnt suit u.
abdusamad
24-10-05, 07:16 PM
Jump right out akhi....doesnt suit u.
jumping out is automatic, no need to announce it.
TinyTerror
24-10-05, 07:20 PM
Assalamualaikum
btw, I dunno what the girls see in sami yusuf, nothing special.
Thank Allah!!! :up: Agreed!
Mind you i'm not so pleasant in expressing my views.....so i'll refrain :p
Wa Alaikumassalam
I had to think hard about how I could say it nicely :p
TinyTerror
24-10-05, 07:23 PM
AssalamualaikumI had to think hard about how I could say it nicely :p
LOL!!!
Wa Alaikumassalam
lool, TT..I thought about u the other day..we were going to the masjid for Jummah or taraweeh...I cant remember, but on our way, someone had graffitied all over a wall...It read 'Tiny' and the 1st thing that came into my mind was TinyTerror :p ...so was it u who did it? lol
Abu Haq
24-10-05, 07:36 PM
Wow you guys are like super-masha-ALLAH-religious. May Allah accept you as rightly guided muslims and give the rest of us the hidaya to be the same. amen.
Ameen, we are not super-duper Muslims at all just plain old normal ordinary ones that have our limitations set down by the Qur'an and Sunnah. Indeed we will all admit we fall into error and mistakes and are sinful, the believer does so regularly and returns in repentance back to his/ her Lord, every time more closer and better for it, as the hadith goes the believer is not bitten by the same hole twice.
I know it's wrong, but its hard to look away too.. What with my friends working with him and always sending me updates with his pics... :s
You have provided the answer to your own predicament, gently request that your friends aid you from staying away from info. related to him (in particular images) as you are finding youself attracted to him in the manner Islam does not permit- I'm sure put appropriately they will assist you insha'allah.
May Allah (swt) make it easy for you to stay away from sin and draw closer to Allah (swt).
TinyTerror
24-10-05, 07:37 PM
Assalamualaikumlool, TT..I thought about u the other day..we were going to the masjid for Jummah or taraweeh...I cant remember, but on our way, someone had graffitied all over a wall...It read 'Tiny' and the 1st thing that came into my mind was TinyTerror :p ...so was it u who did it? lol
Shhhhhhhhhh....do you want to get me arrested?!!!! :p
My friends work everywhere....... :D
Wa Alaikumassalam
Ya know.. I was recently looking at his forum, and there are pics in there that make him out to be a model.. :rolleyes: These pictures are besides the photo albums that are up.. I think it's :wacko: when girls at the forum proclaim their love to him so openly. There's absolutely no hayaa or adab whatsoever. I can't imagine how his poor wife would feel upon reading such statements. What bugs me the most is when ppl openly discuss how they love his new photos and what not, and none of the moderators say anything. Yet, if you try to question his work, the moderators say, "This forum does not allow/tolerate discussion about halal/haram." :smack:
I've seen some of his interviews, and I dunno, he doesn't seem to be the type of person that's full of himself or anything. So it makes me wonder if he authorizes for this nonsense to go on constantly like this.
abdusamad
24-10-05, 08:03 PM
Whell it is because of him this is happening, question remains, what he is going to do about it?
TinyTerror
24-10-05, 08:13 PM
Assalamualaikum
I've seen some of his interviews, and I dunno, he doesn't seem to be the type of person that's full of himself or anything. So it makes me wonder if he authorizes for this nonsense to go on constantly like this.
Erm well i'm sure he knows his picture is going onto his CD case.
But yes we should all remember to lower our gaze. Alhamdulillah i find him unattractive so it's easy but for others who don't...inshallah you will be rewarded for it :)
Allah Knows best and may he forgive us all for any wrongs we commit intentionally or un-intentionally!
Wa Alaikumassalam
Assalamualaikum
Erm well i'm sure he knows his picture is going onto his CD case.
True, lol :embar:
Allah Knows best and may he forgive us all for any wrongs we commit intentionally or un-intentionally!
Ameen.
abdusamad
24-10-05, 08:26 PM
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
Did I miss something?:rubeyes: Whatcha rollin' your eyes for?
True say, i noticed most of his Fans are middle eastern origin i had a look at the forum and its littered with pink text and flowerly lovey duvey stuff
The dude is talented im not complaining and i credit him to some extent for whts he doing the music just put everything down and the way his being idolised.....that forum is a joke i posted something about the issue of permissability music and usng allahs name whether this is allowed i got my post removed
Ya know.. I was recently looking at his forum, and there are pics in there that make him out to be a model.. :rolleyes: These pictures are besides the photo albums that are up.. I think it's :wacko: when girls at the forum proclaim their love to him so openly. There's absolutely no hayaa or adab whatsoever. I can't imagine how his poor wife would feel upon reading such statements. What bugs me the most is when ppl openly discuss how they love his new photos and what not, and none of the moderators say anything. Yet, if you try to question his work, the moderators say, "This forum does not allow/tolerate discussion about halal/haram." :smack:
I've seen some of his interviews, and I dunno, he doesn't seem to be the type of person that's full of himself or anything. So it makes me wonder if he authorizes for this nonsense to go on constantly like this.
*IslamicGirl*
24-10-05, 10:37 PM
:start:
:salams
I got the CD yesterday had to join EMEL magazine just to get it :D
Lool was trailing the sister who said 'free sami yusuf CD for first 10 people who sign up with EMEL' :p as i coulnd't find the CD anywhere!
It's different, i like the collaboration with outlandish and i love the Nasheed 'We will never submit' :love: it's nice
'My Ummah' will prob be my fav alongside 'Mother' :)
I kinda like 'Hasbi Rabbi' too, was humming it on the bus :eek:
:embar: Oh the shame :p
:salams
Arsalan
24-10-05, 10:44 PM
You know if i downloaded the CD, DOES that mean i have to BUY it too?
WOt r da opinions of the ulema on this?
TinyTerror
24-10-05, 10:50 PM
AssalamualaikumYou know if i downloaded the CD, DOES that mean i have to BUY it too?
WOt r da opinions of the ulema on this?
Good God don't buy it! The usage of instruments renders it haram in the MAJORITY of the opinions of the EARLY scholars and that includes the four imams!
You will also find that most artists who reproduce HALAL nasheeds do not sell but provide free access on the net anyway.
However go and get a specific fatwa (one which is based on the opinion of the majority of scholars rather than one sheikh) to make sure
Allah knows best
Wa Alaikumassalam
Arsalan
24-10-05, 10:54 PM
Assalamualaikum
Good God don't buy it! The usage of instruments renders it haram in the MAJORITY of the opinions of the EARLY scholars and that includes the four imams!
You will also find that most artists who reproduce HALAL nasheeds do not sell but provide free access on the net anyway.
However go and get a specific fatwa (one which is based on the opinion of the majority of scholars rather than one sheikh) to make sure
Allah knows best
Wa Alaikumassalam
Salam
Thanks for the reply,
Yes iam famillar with that opinion. ANd i think that opinion is closer to the truth. However even if you are in doubt it is better to avoid it. And iam in serious doubt and confusion on the instruments issue as well as the copyright issue.
JazakAllah khair
if its a music CD screw supporting them download it from Kazaa torrents or whatever
if its nasheed instrument free and all quraan and all then i suggest u buy the CD to support it
Arsalan
24-10-05, 11:05 PM
if its a music CD screw supporting them download it from Kazaa torrents or whatever
if its nasheed instrument free and all quraan and all then i suggest u buy the CD to support it
Good point brav. I feel better now :)
I think i might have to buy shayk anwar awalakies lectures one day though, as ive ripped alot of em.
montoyauk
24-10-05, 11:10 PM
why do U people not learn musical instuments is haram in islam.
MIGHT AS WELL BUY and listen to KAFIR MUSIC (def leppard,madonna ,bob marley etc)AS THAT ALSO HAS MUSICAL INSTUMENTS.
i dont see any difference
TinyTerror
24-10-05, 11:11 PM
Assalamualaikum
Salam
Thanks for the reply,
Yes iam famillar with that opinion. ANd i think that opinion is closer to the truth. However even if you are in doubt it is better to avoid it. And iam in serious doubt and confusion on the instruments issue as well as the copyright issue.
JazakAllah khair
I think you've kinda answered your own question :)
If it's in doubt as to it being HALAL i.e music then why download and keep it anyway? DELETE it thus no issue as you've just sampled to see if you had wanted to buy it in the same way you might have heard it in a shop and decided not to buy. Keeping it and listening to it might be double the sin 1. becasue it's haram and 2. becasue of copyright infirngement
Like sajid said you can buy quran and halal nasheeds to support these ventures but bear in mind these people who do recite or produce nasheeds halal do not have copyright on them anyway so there should be no problem if you are wanting to download. It's your own choice.
Also bear in mind most of the time in buying halal nasheeds or recitation you are supporting the shop not the recitor/nasheed artist as they do not make money out of the sellings (feesabillah) so make sure the shop itself is halal i.e not like rolex in manchester which sells islamic stuff but then urdu magazines/books with heavily made-up women plastered all over :rolleyes:
Allah knows best
Wa Alaikumassalam
Arsalan
24-10-05, 11:27 PM
why do U people not learn musical instuments is haram in islam.
MIGHT AS WELL BUY and listen to KAFIR MUSIC (def leppard,madonna ,bob marley etc)AS THAT ALSO HAS MUSICAL INSTUMENTS.
i dont see any difference
Funnily enuff ive got most of def leppard n bob marley tunez ripped from ol skool But dont listen much, bores me.
Arsalan
24-10-05, 11:29 PM
Assalamualaikum
I think you've kinda answered your own question :)
If it's in doubt as to it being HALAL i.e music then why download and keep it anyway? DELETE it thus no issue as you've just sampled to see if you had wanted to buy it in the same way you might have heard it in a shop and decided not to buy. Keeping it and listening to it might be double the sin 1. becasue it's haram and 2. becasue of copyright infirngement
Like sajid said you can buy quran and halal nasheeds to support these ventures but bear in mind these people who do recite or produce nasheeds halal do not have copyright on them anyway so there should be no problem if you are wanting to download. It's your own choice.
Also bear in mind most of the time in buying halal nasheeds or recitation you are supporting the shop not the recitor/nasheed artist as they do not make money out of the sellings (feesabillah) so make sure the shop itself is halal i.e not like rolex in manchester which sells islamic stuff but then urdu magazines/books with heavily made-up women plastered all over :rolleyes:
Allah knows best
Wa Alaikumassalam
lol
On your advice Ive deleted it now :), n iam gonna tell others to delete it too.
masum2u
25-10-05, 12:24 AM
Assalamu 'alaykum
Brothers/sisters it is time to diss Sami yusuf of to the max. He spent around 80 k, Allah(swt) knows how much he spent on this one, he sold more than 4 million copies on his first album. And has got atached to the ummah, and is a big fitnah.
It is our duty to tell our friends and families not to buy the new album, and tell them to be on the safe side, because not only 'Ullamas disagree with musical instruments but also you have to take in consideration that the earliest muslim generation, the Sahabai's also have disapproved of this, one example can be 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud.
And Allah(swt) knows best,
Fi amanillah
Wassalaam
montoyauk
25-10-05, 12:39 AM
not attacking Sami yusuf.. i just personally dont like anything with musical instuments
that is haram is islam....
Assalamu 'alaykum
Brothers/sisters it is time to diss Sami yusuf of to the max. He spent around 80 k, Allah(swt) knows how much he spent on this one, he sold more than 4 million copies on his first album. And has got atached to the ummah, and is a big fitnah.
It is our duty to tell our friends and families not to buy the new album, and tell them to be on the safe side, because not only 'Ullamas disagree with musical instruments but also you have to take in consideration that the earliest muslim generation, the Sahabai's also have disapproved of this, one example can be 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud.
And Allah(swt) knows best,
Fi amanillah
Wassalaam
salams hmm they musta made millions $$ from his first album from what i know sami he got a lump sum sign on fee then gets i think 15% of all sales from awakening who foots the rest of the sales. its a money making business this!
his released a percussion version aswell....as a musical version!
-Espérer-
25-10-05, 06:00 PM
I heard about the percussion version... It's not out in Egypt yet, is it?
I haven't got My Ummah... I can't be bothered with it. I just can't stand listening to Allah's name being sung with so much music in the background... And it's another way for me to keep my gaze off him... ;)
True say, i noticed most of his Fans are middle eastern origin i had a look at the forum and its littered with pink text and flowerly lovey duvey stuff
Haha, I promise I'm not one of them! Me not into pink flowery lovey dovey stuff. :ahem:
nyemah_mulya
27-10-05, 04:17 AM
salam...
i just heard the songs in My Ummah, thanks to zoi ;)
personally, i was really shocked due to the huge difference
with Al-Muallim, the reason i like Al-Muallim so much
because of the creativity of using only percussions
to produce such beautiful songs
though i must say, the melody of songs in my ummah are really good
but the emotions that i feel when i hear songs in Al-Muallim is not there :(
maybe the percussion version sounds better, i hope
by the way, the song called 'Free' is so... pop-like
if i don't understand the lyrics
maybe i will think the song is sung by any Western pop singers
i dunno why sami yusuf choose such a big transition
maybe he wants to target listeners who never listen to nasheed before, maybe...
in my country, most of the so-called nasheeds are like that... full of instruments
and they claim they want to attract ppl to listen to nasheed
instead of listening to other songs
at least sami yusuf nasheed lyrics are good
u guys should listen to some of the love-dovey nasheed songs in my country
i try to translate some of the lyrics, here goes:
'u know that i miss u,
i know that u love me,
pls be patient darling,
the awaited moment will come sooner or later
we will be reunited with matrimonial ties, oh darling...'
well that's the best i could translate
since the lyrics really make sick... :rolleyes:
masum2u
27-10-05, 04:51 AM
Assalamu 'Alaykum
Astaghfirullah Innallaha Ghafur-ur-Raheem!!!!!!
Is this meant to be a nasheed lyric!!!!!! This sounds to be more like a Ghazl (Love song), what are muslims going to do next!!! Absolutely disgusting....
Brother/sister if you don't mind me asking, which country are you from? Its not america by chance is it?
Fi amanillah
Wassalaam
nyemah_mulya
27-10-05, 04:58 AM
brother/sister masum2u,
i'm not american, i'm malaysian :)
yes, malaysia, the famous muslim country :rolleyes:
it's not that i'm not proud i'm malaysian
but the way muslims in my country
mixing halal and haram things, and rationalize it to be islamic
really makes me ashamed
but, pls take note not all malaysian muslims are like that
there are also many muslims who want to abide with
the real teachings based on Quran and sunnah :D
masum2u
27-10-05, 05:06 AM
Assalamu 'Alaykum
I'm a brother, not a sister, inshaAllah ;)
OK, jazakAllah khayr for that, i blamed straight away america, because there are some new stuff coming out which are disgusting to hear, and they claim to be nasheeds and for the youth. I recently got this one called ''Queens of Islam'', it by someone called ''M-Pac'', i mean why couldnt he just call himself 2 pac??? Its pathetic, and they are rapping away some so-called naseeha to the sisters.
If you were here in london, couple of years back, something very embarrasing happened, i'm not gonna mention the nasheed group, but what happened is that sisters started screaming and they were throwing away their scarfs and waving it in the air!!! :torture:
This is what is happening to the nasheed industry, and i know some people in Malaysia, don;t worry, i know you are good-hearted people with a lot of humour. :), end of the day we are all the Ummah of our beloved prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
Fi amanillah wa barakallah feekum
Wassalaam
nyemah_mulya
27-10-05, 05:47 AM
If you were here in london, couple of years back, something very embarrasing happened, i'm not gonna mention the nasheed group, but what happened is that sisters started screaming and they were throwing away their scarfs and waving it in the air!!! :torture:
REALLY???? :rubeyes::rubeyes::rubeyes: never heard about that incident before
now that was really pathetic! just wonder what was the reaction of the so-called nasheed group? did they apologize or anything?
btw. i am a sister, not a brother insya Allah :D
for sami yusuf fans. i got nothing against him, just his new album
hope sami yusuf could return to the way he did with Al-Muallim :)
montoyauk
27-10-05, 05:54 AM
shame on you muslim sisters who did the haram thing
naseed singers are becoming more like kafir pop stars these days.sounds like tom jones who often gets thrown at him in concerts..by kafir women .lets hope this will not be the case for our muslims sisters.bringing the name of islam to shame.we are muslims not kafirs
If you were here in london, couple of years back, something very embarrasing happened, i'm not gonna mention the nasheed group, but what happened is that sisters started screaming and they:boom: were throwing away their scarfs and waving it in the air!!!
Astagfirullah
that is truely embarrassing.
I would like to know who it was.http://www.ummah.com/forum/images/icons/icon8.gif
montoyauk
08-11-05, 12:28 AM
786 have u heard there nasheeds brother,absolutly disgusting
Yes, i heard his nasheeds i kinda liked at first but what i know about them now changed my mind. May Allah lead them to the straight path.
Inshallah they will become a better muslim.
Salam
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