why do non-muslims come here?

[talibanX]

why do non-muslims come here?

[Tovahh]

Actually, I came here for some dialogue, hoping to build bridges of undertanding with people who are from a different culture. There are a few on this forum who are willing to talk sensibly and look at ways of solving problems - but then there are others - not necessarily non-muslim who would fit into the categories you describe above.

[Nighthawk]

If you notice, I've pretty much cut-off most talks with the adolescents on this board. I came here to talk with people like Bilal, Khilafah, etc. I may not agree with them, but that's not the point. The point is I can have a respectful conversation with them & learn from them.

Unfortunately, discussions like that are a rarity on this forum.

[ive said a bad]

Not that I fit in the above categories, but why do you say things like American/Zionist, what about just an American?

Here's my answer, to find out why you think every American is a jew lovin' zionist. I pride myself in being an open-minded individual, I leave it up to each person to help me make up my mind whether or not to like them. T-banx, you have proven to me you are not worth any respect whatsoever, you are a racist bigot as bad as they come.

The problem here is you can't see one racist is no different than another. If you judge someone based on race alone, you are a racist, it is that simple. It does not matter who you hate, or what group you belong to that hates another, you are still a racist, until we can all get past that, this is all pointless.

[Fidayee]

this poll is not a good idea since the trouble makers will say "were here to learn more about Islam and Muslims" but when you see their posts its all one line balony :p

[hen]

TalibanX,
I originally came here to learn more about Islam and to understand Muslim's viewpoints (after 9-11). I have stayed because I enjoy it. Not a problem I hope?
Hen

[Stanley Levin]

Good point!

[frankeyk]

Originally posted by talibanX
why do non-muslims come here?



i cannot answer any of the questions
on your poll. because non of them
apply to me.
i am here as one of the voices of american
to let muslims know that we(americans) are
not all zionist nazi's. i am for freedom. it is
simple. that is all.

[talibanX]

I dont mean to demean any of you yanks (not being sarcastic)

but if you really want to know what muslims think about america ill tell you... (by the way i only speak for 16-25 yr old british muslims)

we dont hate you...we hate your governments policies!

when i ws growing up, all id hear was america backs afghan mujihadeen, help arabs etc, but as i grew older i realised that this is not the case,

america is one evil nation full of non-evil but misguided people, you no longer control your nation, the most powerful group in washington is pro-isreali, your senators are a bunch of curropt old men who take back handers from any criminal with enough cash! your society has sold its religion and have adopted capitialism...a most non christian concept... you have to decide are you a captiaiist and thus motivated by greed or a chrsitian? unfortunantly you have no choice as it has been made for you, if your government is evil and you are not.... then you are evil for supporting it

we muslims denounce our leaders as curropt....have you ever met a muslim with a good view of muslim leaders? we dont pretent to be perfect cos its impoossible...so when you yanks walk around as if yo are...when you clearly are not......then........

[Nighthawk]

"if your government is evil and you are not.... then you are evil for supporting it"

So in other words, you pretty much just hate all Americans.

And btw, capitalism is economic system. I believe you mean secularism when you say that the US is not a religious state.

[George S]

I come here to antagonize the morons.

[Stanley Levin]

Originally posted by talibanX
I dont mean to demean any of you yanks (not being sarcastic)

but if you really want to know what muslims think about america ill tell you... (by the way i only speak for 16-25 yr old british muslims)

we dont hate you...we hate your governments policies!

==Ok. But you LOVE our $$$MONEY$$$

when i ws growing up, all id hear was america backs afghan mujihadeen, help arabs etc, but as i grew older i realised that this is not the case,

==How's that?

america is one evil nation full of non-evil but misguided people, you no longer control your nation, the most powerful group in washington is pro-isreali, your senators are a bunch of curropt old men who take back handers from any criminal with enough cash! your society has sold its religion and have adopted capitialism...a most non christian concept... you have to decide are you a captiaiist and thus motivated by greed or a chrsitian? unfortunantly you have no choice as it has been made for you, if your government is evil and you are not.... then you are evil for supporting it


==Every country has problems. You're going to sit there and tell me The United Kingdom is without corruption in government, nobody ever took money? You think you have more of a choice where you are, keep kidding yourself bucko!!

==Sold what religions? All or part of them? What are you talking about? America has been capitalistic for quite some time now. Making a value judgement is your opinion however in no way incriminates Americans for living their lives the way Americans live...We've still got more freedom here than anywhere else on earth. THAT...is fact.



we muslims denounce our leaders as curropt....have you ever met a muslim with a good view of muslim leaders? we dont pretent to be perfect cos its impoossible...so when you yanks walk around as if yo are...when you clearly are not......then........


==You obviously weren't around when Nixon was President :D

[talibanX]

Originally posted by Tyler Durden
"if your government is evil and you are not.... then you are evil for supporting it"

So in other words, you pretty much just hate all Americans.

And btw, capitalism is economic system. I believe you mean secularism when you say that the US is not a religious state.

secularism/capitialism...call it what you like... but both are focked up!

[ive said a bad]

Originally posted by talibanX
I dont mean to demean any of you yanks (not being sarcastic)

but if you really want to know what muslims think about america ill tell you... (by the way i only speak for 16-25 yr old british muslims)

we dont hate you...we hate your governments policies!

when i ws growing up, all id hear was america backs afghan mujihadeen, help arabs etc, but as i grew older i realised that this is not the case,

america is one evil nation full of non-evil but misguided people, you no longer control your nation, the most powerful group in washington is pro-isreali, your senators are a bunch of curropt old men who take back handers from any criminal with enough cash! your society has sold its religion and have adopted capitialism...a most non christian concept... you have to decide are you a captiaiist and thus motivated by greed or a chrsitian? unfortunantly you have no choice as it has been made for you, if your government is evil and you are not.... then you are evil for supporting it

we muslims denounce our leaders as curropt....have you ever met a muslim with a good view of muslim leaders? we dont pretent to be perfect cos its impoossible...so when you yanks walk around as if yo are...when you clearly are not......then........

I think most Americans would disagree with this logic, as it has many holes in it. Not all of our gov't is corrupt, and not one person I know agrees with everything our gov't does. Thats kinda the beauty of it, if enough of us don't like it we can change it, in due time.

Fact is, being powerful and wealthy, the whole world comes to us for help, and we do an amazing amount of things to help everyone, not isreal, not islam, not whatever, everyone.

Many us citizens do not know why anyone wants them dead, and many of them pay very little attention to what the gov't does. That does not make them criminals as you put it, it makes them apathetic. If the same id10ts that hi-jacked 9/11 planes had asked for help to save one of their children from dying, most of th US would have stepped right up.

I take great offense to your narrow minded position that there is something wrong here in the US, you have obviously never been to the US or even met an American. If you want to tell me that once you met a tourist, let me remind you that the last bunch of tourists from your world I can recall flew several hundred of my fellow Americans into the side of a building. I am sorry that you can't pull your head out of the sand long enough to realize that we can be your friend, or your enemy, the choice is yours.

[Tovahh]

The United States is not a Christian state, not does it proport to be.

[AnnaMarie]

talibanX-
I came here to learn more about Muslim people around the world and their views on things.

I'm only 18..just breakin out on the scene ya know what I mean :) I am trying to get an idea of what is really going on in the world.

Also thats fine if you don't like American policies.I personally have problems with a bunch of them as well.But definatly don't dislike all the people.I think you'd like us if you gave us the chance! :)

[talibanX]

Originally posted by George S
I come here to antagonize the morons.

ure not very good at it...go back to managing that jewsih concentration camp...loser

[talibanX]

126 views and only 9 votes!!!

[Ruprecht]

What happened to the Poll section?

[royal liverpool]

whatever happend to hen?

[Al-Saeed Abdi]

As Salaamu Alaikum,

I think Islam has the excitement they crave, which for whatever reason they cannot find in their own way of life/religion.

Ma'aSalaama

[Makki]

why do non-muslims come here?

for a right laugh and a knees-up

[I don't know]

None of the options apply to me

I stay here partly to contrast another board I'm on that has mostly American liberals and conservatives. And of course to learn about Muslims.

[Khubaib]

TalibanX,
I originally came here to learn more about Islam and to understand Muslim's viewpoints (after 9-11). I have stayed because I enjoy it. Not a problem I hope?
Hen

Not at all.