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Sayyida17
11-07-05, 08:32 PM
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Having a discussion on MSN about this topic, i need some help.

I need evidence about the effects of a Muslim woman marrying a non Muslim man.

I've read that a Muslim woman becomes a Kaffir if she has a relationship with a Non Muslim and 'marries' him

But i need to provide the evidence.

For those of you who know who i am, shush please :) as i couldn't use the other alias for 'fear' of revolt etc, but i've been granted access for this alias.

Please just provide evidence, and no snide comments from anyone.

JazakhAllahu Khair :love:

Al-Nasser
11-07-05, 08:42 PM
the Quran sa it's not allowed so if she marry a non Muslim and admit it's a sin then fine..she is a sinner but not a kaffir but if she say that marrying a non Muslim is not a sin then she is a kaffir.....that's what i know

i read a funny article by an Indonesian liberal researcher...she was trying to prove with numbers that Muslim women marrying non Muslim men is a good thing so according to her stats in 90s 75% (i can' remember the exact number) of the kids in these marriages became Muslims and in 2000s 85% of the kids became Muslims (their mothers religion)...these numbers was regarded by our liberal friend as a great proof that interfaith marriage is just fine but...imho this numbers prove that it is a disaster because in normal muslim/muslim marriage 99,9% of kids become muslim

*IslamicGirl*
12-07-05, 09:21 AM
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:salams

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=21047&dgn=4
Question :


It is permissible for Muslim men to marry women who are not Muslim, so why are Muslim women not permitted to marry men who follow a religion other than Islam?

Answer :

Praise be to Allaah.
It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from among the People of the Book, a Jewish or Christian woman, but not a woman from any other kaafir religion, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Made lawful to you this day are At‑Tayyibaat [all kinds of Halaal (lawful) foods, which Allaah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time when you have given their due Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage)…”

[al-Maa’idah 5:5]

This refers to chaste women from among the People of the Book, not immoral women. It is not permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a mushrik who is not a Muslim, no matter what his religion is. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al‑Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire…”

[al-Baqarah 2:221]

And because Islam should prevail and not be prevailed over, as is stated in the religion of Islam.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-Kareem al-Khudayr

It is known that the man is the stronger party and the one who dominates the lives of the family, his wife and children. So it is not wise for a Muslim woman to marry a kaafir man who will dominate her life and the life of her children, the consequences of which will be very serious, as there is the possibility that he may divert her from her religion and raise the children in his own religion.

And Allaah knows best.


Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com)

Tahajjud
15-07-05, 09:04 PM
It is not advisable for a man or a woman to marry a non muslim period. IF you lok around yourself, there is alot of that going on now days and the people that are doing it know very little of Islam and Allah's word. They do not teach their husband/wife about Islam, they have little iman, and than when they have kids, they are worse! They have no knowlege about Islam, they dont even know the basic principles of Islam. It is better for someone to have faith (not say the shahadah merely to get married to the person) but to really believe, and when you see the other person having faith by their action ie..praying, learning, reading, fasting..than they are lawful to you, otherwise, please dont let emotion rule reason.

This is huge problem facing the ummah today.

One non muslim told me ..do you men date? I said no.
She said well i know alot of muslims who do.
I said maybe they say they are and they dont pray or have any faith
she said..yeh..iv seen them pray 5 times, and not eat pork but they drink alcohol, go to clubs and strip clubs etc...
Than she goes on to say they like non muslim women. I said its because muslim women dont do the things they would want.

This is the kind of thing im talkin about, this is the reason why so many muslim men are marrying non muslim women because it is lawful to them, but they are not fulfilling their responsibility!!! Their children dont know how to pray, read Quran no nothing at all!! Its getting worse, and that what distresses me.

a mu-min
15-07-05, 09:52 PM
you said it tahajjud, may allah give you ajir.

many mulsims have no knowledge of what they are doing, and just do it. first know what you are doing if it's allowed or not before jumping to conclusions. let's face it almost most western women are not chaste, they probabily have comitted fornification. the prophet said men marry women for four reasons
1.she is beautiful
2.she is rich (i think)
3.her lineage
4. she is religious

choose the fourth one if you want your children to be good muslims.

a mother that is knowledgable always her children becomes knowledgable, and if a mother is ignorant of the religion the children become ignorant. same goes for father.

Guardian Hijab
16-07-05, 02:58 AM
Asalamualaikum

isnt the number one reason to pick a religious wife? Didnt the Prophet(saws) say that if you dont pick a religous women you'd be among the losers

Anyone who marries anyone outside the faith is a loser to me:up:

Wa'alaikumasalam

Naida
16-07-05, 03:08 AM
Children from mixed marriages, for the most part, grow up to be screwed up and completely confused.

I cannot fathom how a good Muslim guy can decide to marry a non-Muslim woman and what he could possibly see in her that would benefit his marriage and family life. The same goes for a Muslim woman who wishes to marry a non-Muslim man.

The only exception is that the first scenario is Islamically permissible, but still. Permissible does not equal necessary.

Living with a kafir, raising children with a kafir...audhu billah!

AbuMubarak
16-07-05, 03:23 AM
so i guess muslim women shouldnt be flirting, playing, or anything else with kafir men then, huh?

i see this "love" thing between some of our sisters here at ummah.com and their kair "friends", i think some of you sisters need to remind other sisters to clean up their act

a mu-min
16-07-05, 05:01 AM
allah said not take the non-muslims as friends and protecters, only if they read the quran and the sunnah so they wouldn't have to make so many mistakes.

.: Anna :.
16-07-05, 12:14 PM
so i guess muslim women shouldnt be flirting, playing, or anything else with kafir men then, huh?

or with muslim men or any men for that matter! [except husbands :) ]

Guardian Hijab
17-07-05, 03:38 AM
so i guess muslim women shouldnt be flirting, playing, or anything else with kafir men then, huh?

i see this "love" thing between some of our sisters here at ummah.com and their kair "friends", i think some of you sisters need to remind other sisters to clean up their act
Asalamualaikum

...and the same goes for the brothers!

Wa'alaikumasalam

a mu-min
17-07-05, 03:39 AM
right, but the sisters have are more "lovely" than the brothers.

Ali_Khan
17-07-05, 06:18 PM
so i guess muslim women shouldnt be flirting, playing, or anything else with kafir men then, huh?

i see this "love" thing between some of our sisters here at ummah.com and their kair "friends", i think some of you sisters need to remind other sisters to clean up their act

i havent seen any muslimah here talking of kafir "friends".

ad2005
17-07-05, 07:37 PM
First of all, i would like to quote a previous post frm above Asalamualaikum

isnt the number one reason to pick a religious wife? Didnt the Prophet(saws) say that if you dont pick a religous women you'd be among the losers

Anyone who marries anyone outside the faith is a loser to me:up:

Wa'alaikumasalam

now, taking this quote in mind, Is it not also true that in islam it is said that a muslim man may marry a woman who is from the three faiths of the book, but the major part people leave out of that is the woman must be a 'firm believer in her faith' and worshipping god. So infact your arguement my friend that anyone marrying outside the faith is a loser isnt entirely accurate. Yes there are many problems to overcome, but where in the entire history of islam have we not faced problems? there has always been something to overcome, still this is beside the point.

abdusamad
17-07-05, 08:01 PM
Assalaamu Alaykum,

Speaking for myself and forming my own opinion, how could i share a bed with one who chooses to be ignorant and ignore the very truth which i accepted. There is no way i can imagine myself share a bed with one who is impure. How could i do so, It is the opposite of what im trying to accomplish. What am i trying to accomplish? The pleasure of Allah. Is sharing a bed with one who displeases Allah going make Allah happy? Oh brothers and sisters never mind the "But it is halal" Our imaan is weak therefore we feel nothing and are quick to take advantage of what Allah has allowed for us. Times are different than the time of revelation, it is our duty to protect our imaan. The best way to do so is to stay close to the halaal and take a fair distance from the haraam.

May Allah guide us, and give us steadfastness.


jazakuAllah khair.

Freshie
18-07-05, 07:35 PM
Toba Toba :nono: