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imran1976
05-07-05, 08:51 AM
"i miss the freshie thread, most of the things in there was true, people need to face upto reality thats all. I took no offence to it whatsoever. Also there was alot of humour in it & i really enjoyed it. at the same time not all of them are like that. i do have a feeling that when my relatives move there & after few years when they come bak i find them a different creature....:D
OK this thread is to talk about what happens once the frehsie has left pakistan for UK http://www.ummah.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Salman Al-Farsi
05-07-05, 09:10 AM
Are you saying I should post all the stories my father been telling me about how he came to this country, and how he worked in factory for 18 hrs a day and went to collge in the evenings and by the time he was my age, he had his own house, car, wife and kids..:rolleyes:
muslimah85
05-07-05, 09:12 AM
am i a freshie?:rubeyes:
Are you saying I should post all the stories my father been telling me about how he came to this country, and how he worked in factory for 18 hrs a day and went to collge in the evenings and by the time he was my age, he had his own house, car, wife and kids..:rolleyes:
awww mashallah bro.
or how wen my uncles and dad came over they all lived in the same house for years, working non-stop :D
come one imran, what do they say wen they return how are they different?
imran1976
05-07-05, 09:20 AM
Are you saying I should post all the stories my father been telling me about how he came to this country, and how he worked in factory for 18 hrs a day and went to collge in the evenings and by the time he was my age, he had his own house, car, wife and kids..:rolleyes:
ya thats true, fathers really work hard for their families. In this process within a blink of an eye their young age passes by!
& i'm talkin abt 21st century freshies....:D
ya thats true, fathers really work hard for their families. In this process within a blink of an eye their young age passes by!
& i'm talkin abt 21st century freshies....:D
yeah im tlaking about 21st freshies to, old skool freshies worked their fingers to their bone wen they came to this country , for their families but nowadays its more like, wen thery get of the plane, they of to the clubs and strip bars.
I seen and heard this happen to so many brothers :(
Salman Al-Farsi
05-07-05, 10:21 AM
yeah im tlaking about 21st freshies to, old skool freshies worked their fingers to their bone wen they came to this country , for their families but nowadays its more like, wen thery get of the plane, they of to the clubs and strip bars.
I seen and heard this happen to so many brothers :(
You generalising again, not all of them are like that. Some of them come here na work hard like the user freshie.
Hijaban
05-07-05, 10:22 AM
"Old skool" freshies definatly worked much harder than the ones nowadays inorder to provide for their families.I have heard of so many young brothers who move to england from pakistan and not only forget their families back home but also forget Islam.The temptation of clubbing and drinking seems to be too much for them.Although I must say that not all brothers turn out for the bad and sisters also tend to go a bit bonkers once they've stepped off PIA the brothers are not alone in wanting to adopt a completely western lifestyle.
Salman Al-Farsi
05-07-05, 10:24 AM
ya thats true, fathers really work hard for their families. In this process within a blink of an eye their young age passes by!
& i'm talkin abt 21st century freshies....:D
Thats too, our parents did so much for us. :)
May Allah help us do the same for them now. amen
You generalising again, not all of them are like that. Some of them come here na work hard like the user freshie.
my apologies, didnt mean to generalise, there i also know some brothers who know their priorities once they get of the plane :D
"Old skool" freshies definatly worked much harder than the ones nowadays inorder to provide for their families.I have heard of so many young brothers who move to england from pakistan and not only forget their families back home but also forget Islam.The temptation of clubbing and drinking seems to be too much for them.Although I must say that not all brothers turn out for the bad and sisters also tend to go a bit bonkers once they've stepped off PIA the brothers are not alone in wanting to adopt a completely western lifestyle.
dont start me on the women, i have seen some proper horror stories that i cant even repeat on here, u know whats happened afetr the year is up ...... :(
Thats too, our parents did so much for us. :)
May Allah help us do the same for them now. amen
ameen
Thats too, our parents did so much for us. :)
May Allah help us do the same for them now. amen
Aameen
from what i've seen...if the freshie has loadsa family settled here already..they generally don't have to work as hard....might work in their uncles/brothers shop...or help out in the families minicab company....and unless they come with their whole family they get upto mischieve (i dunno how to spell :eek: )
but those who think that coming here is to better their families and their own lives..they tend to work really hard...a lot have several jobs..ride a bus...work in a smelly restaurant....its sad cos a lot of them have a really crap life here...living in a cramped mouldy room..when their quality of life was probably considerably better and surrounded by their family...but i suppose dunya gains is what is important to them and when they convert their measly slave wage to rupees it makes them happy :rolleyes:
imran1976
05-07-05, 10:42 AM
come one imran, what do they say wen they return how are they different?
well they think themselves to be on a higher level than us, maybe coz they have a stamp of british visa on their passports.... :D
as i have said b4 that most of them are not much educated, once my cousin said to me see imran though u r more educated than me still i got the visa & earn many times more than u.... :D
well they think themselves to be on a higher level than us, maybe coz they have a stamp of british visa on their passports.... :D
as i have said b4 that most of them are not much educated, once my cousin said to me see imran though u r more educated than me still i got the visa & earn many times more than u.... :D
what the...! he sed that to u? imran, i hope u sorted your cousin out, what a completly dopey thing to say.
I would say, not educatd in islam enuff, we keep mentioning this, its about the fact that alot of muslims are more culturally aware than islamically unfortunalty :(
its very sad
this is probably nothing to do with the thread, but did anyone ever watch that programme with the two Afghans who made their way to the UK? One died in the process - it was a true story too. It was too depressing. The other one was in Kilburn somewhere due to be deported when he turned 18 (probably already has). Poor guy.. :(
The programme was.. i think.. aired last year on bbc/or ch4.. one or the other.
this is probably nothing to do with the thread, but did anyone ever watch that programme with the two Afghans who made their way to the UK? One died in the process - it was a true story too. It was too depressing. The other one was in Kilburn somewhere due to be deported when he turned 18 (probably already has). Poor guy.. :(
The programme was.. i think.. aired last year on bbc/or ch4.. one or the other.
was it wen they stored themselves in beteween teh plane tyres and one died due to teh severe cold temperatures, or did he actually fall out of the plane ffrom where he was stowing himself away? i cant remeber the exact storyu now
Hijaban
05-07-05, 11:13 AM
Yeah i remeber that its sad to see the things people go through to get to places such as engalnd
I think they were in a container of some sort, and there was lack of oxygen. So one of them died, along with the others.. And yeh, i think it was on a truck. I have it taped somewhere, but dont ever want to watch it again.
I think they were in a container of some sort, and there was lack of oxygen. So one of them died, along with the others.. And yeh, i think it was on a truck. I have it taped somewhere, but dont ever want to watch it again.
:( thats really sad, Allah's will i spose wat can we do.
imran1976
05-07-05, 11:22 AM
what the...! he sed that to u? imran, i hope u sorted your cousin out, what a completly dopey thing to say.
I would say, not educatd in islam enuff, we keep mentioning this, its about the fact that alot of muslims are more culturally aware than islamically unfortunalty :(
its very sad
lol i did sorted out him, they all are younger than me. unfortunately their concentration is more on going to u.k rather than studies. 3 more are in pipeline.... :D , they each will pay nearly one million rupees to the agents for that..... :D
lol i did sorted out him, they all are younger than me. unfortunately their concentration is more on going to u.k rather than studies. 3 more are in pipeline.... :D , they each will pay nearly one million rupees to the agents for that..... :D
1 million rupees :O
agents,. wat agents?
Hijaban
05-07-05, 11:27 AM
Iv heard of people paying upto £9,000 to come to england and some have regreted doing so because they had better lifestyles back home
If the topic is discussed in a proper and mature manner, there is nothing wrong with it.
The problem with the previous thread was that it lacked maturity and seemed to be more of an excuse to poke fun rather than discuss.
imran1976
05-07-05, 11:31 AM
1 million rupees :O
agents,. wat agents?
10,000 pounds
well u can call them the middle man, they prepare the relevant documents for u, i do have a feeling that they have some sort of links in the embassies . for all these services they charge money!
Hijaban
05-07-05, 11:35 AM
Good point .It can be very hard for some people when they move abroad they naively beleive that once they come here they will make big sums of money but they cant be blamed when individuals from areas such as england go over to pakistan and flash their cash particularyl in poor regions .Some freshies do come here genuinely to work hard and provide for theier families back home
If the topic is discussed in a proper and mature manner, there is nothing wrong with it.
The problem with the previous thread was that it lacked maturity and seemed to be more of an excuse to poke fun rather than discuss.
If the topic is discussed in a proper and mature manner, there is nothing wrong with it.
The problem with the previous thread was that it lacked maturity and seemed to be more of an excuse to poke fun rather than discuss.
i dont think we can generalise the whole thread , for certain posts in there.
I started the thread as ur aware, and Allah knows my true intentions wen i started it, so your last comment is unfounded i think .
My comment wasn't directed at you in particular MG.
It was the way the thread eventually turned out which was disappointing.
I never use the term 'freshie'. I think its a form of discrimination, and its far too derogatory (i feel) as a term of reference. If we all went pakistan/asia, we'd be 'freshies' too. Some kids you speak to can hardly speak their native language. Plus, some people use 'freshie' in almost an arrogant sense.. to that i say, mate, if the Brits decide to kick you out today, you'd be tending the livestock and ploughing the fields too. (Comment not directed at anyone).
I never use the term 'freshie'. I think its a form of discrimination, and its far too derogatory (i feel) as a term of reference. If we all went pakistan/asia, we'd be 'freshies' too. Some kids you speak to can hardly speak their native language. Plus, some people use 'freshie' in almost an arrogant sense.. to that i say, mate, if the Brits decide to kick you out today, you'd be tending the livestock and ploughing the fields too. (Comment not directed at anyone).
lol, yeh i always say that, wen we go over there for at least a visit, we are freshies in their eyes of course and they make jokes out of us bigtime!
innit imran.... :D
Hijaban
05-07-05, 12:01 PM
Personally i use the term freshie not in a degrading manner but in a friendly manner.I know people from pakistan who call me gori (although im not) and i call them freshie.But I understand where ur coming from.
My comment wasn't directed at you in particular MG.
It was the way the thread eventually turned out which was disappointing.
in your last paragraph, it seemed u were insinuating that the last freshie thread was started purely to make fun out of them, but if your saying that wasnt the case, then i accept that.
Good point .It can be very hard for some people when they move abroad they naively beleive that once they come here they will make big sums of money but they cant be blamed when individuals from areas such as england go over to pakistan and flash their cash particularyl in poor regions .Some freshies do come here genuinely to work hard and provide for theier families back home
i think another thing they find hard to deal with is the long work hours, some of thenm cant habdle that at all.
Personally i use the term freshie not in a degrading manner but in a friendly manner.I know people from pakistan who call me gori (although im not) and i call them freshie.But I understand where ur coming from.
me too .
u get called gori? better than walaytee ma'am :P
imran1976
05-07-05, 12:06 PM
okay okay we have enough of freshies in the previous thread, now i wanna talk abt the wilayatees'...... :D
i wanna ask why the wilayatee galz work, they work coz it's culture there to work or the walayatte guyz don't wanna take up the responsibilities or something else....... :rolleyes:
Hijaban
05-07-05, 12:21 PM
GORI WHY??????????(its not like i act like one)I was in Pakistan not so long ago and they called me an arab wannabe because i wear the hijab errrrmmmmm no its because im Muslim duuuuuhhh:wacko:
I do think that when people are thinking of moving they should realise that its not a quick way of making money.I know of many people who come to england from pakistan and end up working in very bad conditions.Its not nice for them especially when they have spent huge amounts of money trying to get here in the first place.
okay okay we have enough of freshies in the previous thread, now i wanna talk abt the wilayatees'...... :D
i wanna ask why the wilayatee galz work, they work coz it's culture there to work or the walayatte guyz don't wanna take up the responsibilities or something else....... :rolleyes:
awwww man, its jus getting exciting and i gotta go to a meeting :(
i will look forward to reading this thread further on my return inshallah!!
imran1976
05-07-05, 12:36 PM
awwww man, its jus getting exciting and i gotta go to a meeting :(
i will look forward to reading this thread further on my return inshallah!!
& i'll be lookin forward to ppl answering my question......
be bak after prayers.... :)
Niqaabi
05-07-05, 01:37 PM
coconuts!
imran1976
05-07-05, 01:56 PM
coconuts!
:scratch:
Salman Al-Farsi
05-07-05, 02:10 PM
coconuts!
:eek:
not that again.
the funny thing about being a 'freshie' is that everyone here is one. People calling other people a freshie is like a a pot calling a kettle black.
People emigrate to other countries for a number of reasons. Thier mannerisms will be different. However, vilify them or to accentuate the differences instead of the similarities is nothin less than forgetting your own past.
coconuts!
love ya to sis :D
okay okay we have enough of freshies in the previous thread, now i wanna talk abt the wilayatees'...... :D
i wanna ask why the wilayatee galz work, they work coz it's culture there to work or the walayatte guyz don't wanna take up the responsibilities or something else....... :rolleyes:
lol
bit of both really bro, most women work here because one wage packet is not enuff to get buy, others work cos they jus want too, personally, if i didnt have to work cos of circumstances ,i defo would stay at home and look after the kids anyday,anytime .
imran1976
05-07-05, 06:29 PM
lol
bit of both really bro, most women work here because one wage packet is not enuff to get buy, others work cos they jus want too, personally, if i didnt have to work cos of circumstances ,i defo would stay at home and look after the kids anyday,anytime .
i find 'one wage packet not enough' an excuse, afterall u.k is one of the most developed coutries of the world.....:rolleyes:
imran1976
05-07-05, 06:37 PM
GORI WHY??????????(its not like i act like one)I was in Pakistan not so long ago and they called me an arab wannabe because i wear the hijab errrrmmmmm no its because im Muslim duuuuuhhh:wacko:
I do think that when people are thinking of moving they should realise that its not a quick way of making money.I know of many people who come to england from pakistan and end up working in very bad conditions.Its not nice for them especially when they have spent huge amounts of money trying to get here in the first place.
i have seen some smart guyz, what they do is sent whatever savings they have bak to pakistan, now within a year or so the figure reaches to round abt 20-30k pounds now thats a lot of money in pakistan.
i find 'one wage packet not enough' an excuse, afterall u.k is one of the most developed coutries of the world.....:rolleyes:
its "developed" cos they take half our money andf spend it on themselves.
I'd say Pakistan is more developed than UK in certain areas
i have seen some smart guyz, what they do is sent whatever savings they have bak to pakistan, now within a year or so the figure reaches to round abt 20-30k pounds now thats a lot of money in pakistan.
so wat are they lving on while they are sending all this money back home?
imran1976
05-07-05, 07:58 PM
so wat are they lving on while they are sending all this money back home?
i said they send bak their savings. i really don't know how they live their but i do see alot of money comin from u.k & also they don't just stick in u.k . it's like 8 months there & 4 months here, really smart boyz....:D
i said they send bak their savings. i really don't know how they live their but i do see alot of money comin from u.k & also they don't just stick in u.k . it's like 8 months there & 4 months here, really smart boyz....:D
i ask becos majority of marriages where a boy/girl is married to someone who they bought over from pakistan ,have broken up becos the pakistan person send ALL earnings, or money they hav coming in and not leaving much to live on for their families, seriously, i knwo alot of marriages broke up becos of this.
i wouldnt say its clever to send EVRYTHING u work for back home, wen u and your family live somwhere else, e.g UK.
I jus dont get it, why do u think they do this imran, whats the reason behind it?
imran1976
05-07-05, 08:02 PM
its "developed" cos they take half our money andf spend it on themselves.
I'd say Pakistan is more developed than UK in certain areas
still that 'one wage packet not enuff' doesn't convince me & also i don't believe that life is much harder there as compared to pakistan. i know ppl say that u.k is expensive but u know pakistan is much more expensive. u may find pakistan cheap coz u see it from the viepoint of u'r salaries.
still that 'one wage packet not enuff' doesn't convince me & also i don't believe that life is much harder there as compared to pakistan. i know ppl say that u.k is expensive but u know pakistan is much more expensive. u may find pakistan cheap coz u see it from the viepoint of u'r salaries.
not at all, i see it from the viewpoint of the prices in the UK and prices in pakistan.
Pakistan is definatly cheaper by far, in everything that i have come across.
we have longer work hours than Paksitan, we pay TAX on everything that u can think of, seriously,think of anything.....we brits pay tax on it.
I think u would have to come and live here to see the exact meaning of "one wage packet is not enough"
imran1976
05-07-05, 08:11 PM
lol, one thing i forgot to mention abt those smart boyz is that they do not marry there in u.k & thats what really makes them smart....:D
well MG here we have very strong ties with our family, okay lets say i move to u.k & start earning a handsome income, wheras at the same time my brother/sister bak in pakistan are having tough time. obviously i'll not just sit & enjoy a wonderful life in u.k, defo i'll help out my bro/sis coz they are part of me & i'll not leave them alone.
Now what i see why the marriage brokes there is that wives doesn't like this stuff!
i ask becos majority of marriages where a boy/girl is married to someone who they bought over from pakistan ,have broken up becos the pakistan person send ALL earnings, or money they hav coming in and not leaving much to live on for their families, seriously, i knwo alot of marriages broke up becos of this.
i wouldnt say its clever to send EVRYTHING u work for back home, wen u and your family live somwhere else, e.g UK.
I jus dont get it, why do u think they do this imran, whats the reason behind it?
lol, one thing i forgot to mention abt those smart boyz is that they do not marry there in u.k & thats what really makes them smart....:D
well MG here we have very strong ties with our family, okay lets say i move to u.k & start earning a handsome income, wheras at the same time my brother/sister bak in pakistan are having tough time. obviously i'll not just sit & enjoy a wonderful life in u.k, defo i'll help out my bro/sis coz they are part of me & i'll not leave them alone.
Now what i see why the marriage brokes there is that wives doesn't like this stuff!
lol @ wives doesnt like this stuff
bro, no 1 is gonna let their husband or wife see their parents starve back home, we are talking about married people sending ALL, EVERYTHING not SOME money back to Pakistan, im sure family back home is not that greedy that they want EVRYTHING from there son or daughter,so they have nothing to live on in UK?
do u see what i mean?
If my husband sent evry penny he earned back to pakistan...ur too right id have something to say about it mate! :)
no person with half a brain would live with that, otherwise why get married?
its ok if your single, u can send however much u want but if your married, u cant be doin stunts like that bro, u have to prioritise
imran1976
05-07-05, 08:27 PM
not at all, i see it from the viewpoint of the prices in the UK and prices in pakistan.
Pakistan is definatly cheaper by far, in everything that i have come across.
we have longer work hours than Paksitan, we pay TAX on everything that u can think of, seriously,think of anything.....we brits pay tax on it.
I think u would have to come and live here to see the exact meaning of "one wage packet is not enough"
i wud love to know where u come across ...........:D
okay how many hrs do u work & do u get overtime????????????
i say u come over here, get a job & try to live. within a month u'll pack-up & take british airways bak to u.k
we see very very tough times here, even the half wage packet will be enuff for me. i don't know whether u ppl believe me or not, my expenses are more than my income, now u'll ask how u come up with u'r living than. my response wud be pls. don't ask coz i don't myself but believe me i manage all the expenses.sometimes money comes from a source which i can't ever think off.
we put our faith in Allah (s.w.t) & Allah helps us out.we go out on a faith that its our responsibility no matter if we have to work for 12-14-16-18 hrs but we will work. trust me my income is less than my expenses but somehow Allahs help comes , it's all abt faith.....:ahb:
I think expenses are always more than the income you get all over the world :nuts:
imran1976
05-07-05, 08:41 PM
lol @ wives doesnt like this stuff
bro, no 1 is gonna let their husband or wife see their parents starve back home, we are talking about married people sending ALL, EVERYTHING not SOME money back to Pakistan, im sure family back home is not that greedy that they want EVRYTHING from there son or daughter,so they have nothing to live on in UK?
do u see what i mean?
If my husband sent evry penny he earned back to pakistan...ur too right id have something to say about it mate! :)
no person with half a brain would live with that, otherwise why get married?
its ok if your single, u can send however much u want but if your married, u cant be doin stunts like that bro, u have to prioritise
okay u have asked a million dollar question but i'll answer it for free......:D
this is what happens, lets say theres a family of 5 bros, 2 sis along with their parents. now what they plan is that atleast one of them will go abroad , earn money & send bak to pakistan. the reason for sending bak is that only in this way that money can be worthwhile u know few pounds make up lots of rupees. So his intention is to just earn enough money & to return home & trust me they are very commited to that. Now in that process he feels the need to get marry , u know thats natural. So he marries a wilayatee gal but his intentions are the same & now if the wilayatee gal doesn't mind this & is ready to move with him bak than thats fine otherwise they broke up!
i think it's a good piece of info. i have given to wilayatees'....:D
Imran.. at least in pakistan you can excrete for free. Here, you have to pay up approx 50 rupees to go toilet in some places.. and more than that in some others i've seen. :p
But yeh, when you take PPP into account, perhaps, the living costs there are rising too. Things are expensive, compared to people's real wages, and i know theres a real difficulty with getting graduates into the job market.
Not to mention the most obvious point.. corruption.
imran1976
05-07-05, 08:46 PM
I think expenses are always more than the income you get all over the world :nuts:
no not really those smart boyz send bak lots of money bak to pak, so that makes u wrong................:nuts: :nuts: :nuts:
this is what happens, lets say theres a family of 5 bros, 2 sis along with their parents. now what they plan is that atleast one of them will go abroad , earn money & send bak to pakistan. the reason for sending bak is that only in this way that money can be worthwhile u know few pounds make up lots of rupees.
Zamana hamaisha aik jaisa nahi rehta. You have to have sustainable livelihoods.. What if your loved one cannot send money? Financial difficulty. People in pakistan and the Government too, need to come up with sustainable solutions for the future. i.e. in some remote rural village, it may be ideal to buy a cow and sell the milk. etc, so that way, you have some income being generated.
no not really those smart boyz send bak lots of money bak to pak, so that makes u wrong................:nuts: :nuts: :nuts:
I don't send my money anywhere...yet it still seems to disappear at the end of the month :rolleyes:
imran1976
05-07-05, 08:49 PM
Imran.. at least in pakistan you can excrete for free. Here, you have to pay up approx 50 rupees to go toilet in some places.. and more than that in some others i've seen. :p
wrong wrong wrong, here u have to pay 2 rupees for **** & 5 rupees for*****...........:D
:wacko: I thought it was free. Well no one stopping you from going out on the field is there?! :rotfl:
imran1976
05-07-05, 08:52 PM
I don't send my money anywhere...yet it still seems to disappear at the end of the month :rolleyes:
it seems you are not sure whether they disappear or not......:rolleyes:
:wacko: I thought it was free. Well no one stopping you from going out on the field is there?! :rotfl:
Or use the open sewer system that operates in Pak
okay u have asked a million dollar question but i'll answer it for free......:D
this is what happens, lets say theres a family of 5 bros, 2 sis along with their parents. now what they plan is that atleast one of them will go abroad , earn money & send bak to pakistan. the reason for sending bak is that only in this way that money can be worthwhile u know few pounds make up lots of rupees. So his intention is to just earn enough money & to return home & trust me they are very commited to that. Now in that process he feels the need to get marry , u know thats natural. So he marries a wilayatee gal but his intentions are the same & now if the wilayatee gal doesn't mind this & is ready to move with him bak than thats fine otherwise they broke up!
i think it's a good piece of info. i have given to wilayatees'....:D
u think these bros or sisters from pakistan tell the wilaytee what their intentions are? if they have done this then id like to meet them!!
the reason these breakups happen is becos the wilaytees are unfortunatly
lead on in most cases to beleiev its a genuine marriage (im sure there genuine ones) but really the other party like u explained has other intentions.
bro u must be joking if u think the desi would move back to pakistan after having lived in UK, maybe in old age yeah!
it seems you are not sure whether they disappear or not......:rolleyes:
Im definitely sure it disappears.
imran1976
05-07-05, 08:55 PM
:wacko: I thought it was free. Well no one stopping you from going out on the field is there?! :rotfl:
in the fields noway :wacko: , i have been to villages quite a few times. i ask my realtives to take me to a toilet even if i have to walk for miles but fields a big no....:D
:wacko: I thought it was free. Well no one stopping you from going out on the field is there?! :rotfl:
:rofl1:
Yeh thats one thing they need to eradicate.. I remember when i was little, i was too busy staring at some pauper and i fell straight into a gutter and lost me shoes :rolleyes: Walked around the entire city without any shoes for the rest of the evening.
Usually, it infects the water too, since they dig wells too close to the latrines, they merge sometimes.
Salman Al-Farsi
05-07-05, 08:57 PM
:wacko: I thought it was free. Well no one stopping you from going out on the field is there?! :rotfl:
:rotfl: .. but they have Jinnat securing those places... at least the concept anyway. :rolleyes:
bro u must be joking if u think the desi would move back to pakistan after having lived in UK, maybe in old age yeah!
Unless we're repatriated and kicked out.. which if they wanted to here, am sure they could do.
Unless we're repatriated and kicked out.. which if they wanted to here, am sure they could do.
good one, yeah that too, my parents have talked about that happening for years but yes that could happen too
imran1976
05-07-05, 09:02 PM
u think these bros or sisters from pakistan tell the wilaytee what their intentions are? if they have done this then id like to meet them!!
the reason these breakups happen is becos the wilaytees are unfortunatly
lead on in most cases to beleiev its a genuine marriage (im sure there genuine ones) but really the other party like u explained has other intentions.
bro u must be joking if u think the desi would move back to pakistan after having lived in UK, maybe in old age yeah!
in the old age, thats not cool & not smart...:D
to be a smart boy one shud have the policy to earn there & spent here & i personally know quite a few of them but they didn't married there, they are married here.
i'm not sayin that all of them do that but still some of them surely do that!
Pakistan's a funny place..
3 Golden rules
Rule 1: Do not speak a word of English at the market or you will get ripped off.
Rule 2: Do not show affection towards any donkey, it will kick you (tried and tested)
Rule 3: Try and avoid seeing any doctor there.. If you have cancer, heart problems or any other problem, you will almost ALWAYS be told its either a kidney infection, or your appendix (and its usually the appendix) :rolleyes:
Oh btw, whats Jinnat?
imran1976
05-07-05, 09:06 PM
Im definitely sure it disappears.
so u sorted it out,thats cool......:cool:
my income less, expenses more & above all i still save money every month , howz that...........:1popcorn:
in the old age, thats not cool & not smart...:D
to be a smart boy one shud have the policy to earn there & spent here & i personally know quite a few of them but they didn't married there, they are married here.
i'm not sayin that all of them do that but still some of them surely do that!
hey bro im with u, if all the guy's family is in pakistan and he is the only one in UK , i was talking about if they married from here , anyways forget it :nuts:
imran1976
05-07-05, 09:08 PM
Pakistan's a funny place..
3 Golden rules
Rule 1: Do not speak a word of English at the market or you will get ripped off.
Rule 2: Do not show affection towards any donkey, it will kick you (tried and tested)
Rule 3: Try and avoid seeing any doctor there.. If you have cancer, heart problems or any other problem, you will almost ALWAYS be told its either a kidney infection, or your appendix (and its usually the appendix) :rolleyes:
Oh btw, whats Jinnat?
oaey you are exposing the realities...........:D
he was talkin of jins
Pakistan's a funny place..
3 Golden rules
Rule 1: Do not speak a word of English at the market or you will get ripped off.
Rule 2: Do not show affection towards any donkey, it will kick you (tried and tested)
Rule 3: Try and avoid seeing any doctor there.. If you have cancer, heart problems or any other problem, you will almost ALWAYS be told its either a kidney infection, or your appendix (and its usually the appendix) :rolleyes:
Oh btw, whats Jinnat?
jinnat as in jinns :D
Ohhh!! Yes. Everyone there relates a story about jinn's. I put it down to lack of protein consumption (or as the punjabi's would say, 'cheez aik hondiyai, do disdian'). I find the graveyards there are quite spooky. Kid's aren't allowed to play on swings after asr/maghrib etc. And yeh, people avoid fields..
Ohhh!! Yes. Everyone there relates a story about jinn's. I put it down to lack of protein consumption (or as the punjabi's would say, 'cheez aik hondiyai, do disdain'). I find the graveyards there are quite spooky. Kid's aren't allowed to play on swings after asr/maghrib etc. And yeh, people avoid fields..
ys, maghrib is usually wen the shaytaan is out..... start *twilight zone music*
I don't know, its quite scary.. especially the open fields etc at night. Here, because its so urbanised, am not too afraid. Imran, do you have any jinn stories?
I don't know, its quite scary.. especially the open fields etc at night. Here, because its so urbanised, am not too afraid. Imran, do you have any jinn stories?
yeah , and dont make up extra stuff to scare us.....actually, forget the jinn stories,witty ur crazy!
Salman Al-Farsi
05-07-05, 09:19 PM
I don't know, its quite scary.. especially the open fields etc at night. Here, because its so urbanised, am not too afraid. Imran, do you have any jinn stories?
those are mythologies created to keep people away from fields and graveyards.
those are mythologies created to keep people away from fields and graveyards.
i have read that jinns (or is it shaitaan?,well one of those anyway) hang around graveyards
imran1976
05-07-05, 09:26 PM
I don't know, its quite scary.. especially the open fields etc at night. Here, because its so urbanised, am not too afraid. Imran, do you have any jinn stories?
so it seems u ppl don't believe in jinns....:D
i don't have stories but a reality in my own home,jins used to come to my younger brother ..............
salman wud u like to see a jin when u come next time to pak & i'm not kidding..
so it seems u ppl don't believe in jinns....:D
i don't have stories but a reality in my own home,jins used to come to my younger brother ..............
salman wud u like to see a jin when u come next time to pak & i'm not kidding..
:nervous: why u gotta start him of witty!
Ah. I believe in jinn's. And this is true btw, since i saw this first hand. We had a family friend - a girl who came from abroad to study here. Anyway, she was renting a house and turned out, there was a kafir jinn also residing at the place. Whenever she read the Quran, the lights would flicker and she'd hear noises. It all got a bit too much when her brother was asleep once, and the jinn started breathing heavily in his ear.. so they ran out of the house without their belongings in the middle of the night.. and had to stay at another friends place. They moved out of the place asap.. the house definately looks spooky.
imran1976
05-07-05, 09:39 PM
:nervous: why u gotta start him of witty!
okay okay calm down, no jinn stories & salman u can also come out now....:D
Hijaban
05-07-05, 09:57 PM
Iv heard of such things happening also.Theres this couple our family know i think were related some how anyway they got married when they were very young and were not practicing at all they baically lived the western lifestyle.But eventually became practicing and are now very good Muslims mashallah.But in this process they lived in a small flat were items would move around from room to room.And the wife on many occasions would feel breathing on her skin at night and on a few occasions would feel the touch of somebodys fingers passing through her hair at points she would wake up.The scary thing is that it occured when she was alone in the flat and her husband at work.A close friend told her that this happens to people when they want to get rid of the shaittan within their lifes and look towards Allah.How valid this point made from her friend is i dont know but pretty scary:nervous:
Ah. I believe in jinn's. And this is true btw, since i saw this first hand. We had a family friend - a girl who came from abroad to study here. Anyway, she was renting a house and turned out, there was a kafir jinn also residing at the place. Whenever she read the Quran, the lights would flicker and she'd hear noises. It all got a bit too much when her brother was asleep once, and the jinn started breathing heavily in his ear.. so they ran out of the house without their belongings in the middle of the night.. and had to stay at another friends place. They moved out of the place asap.. the house definately looks spooky.
imran1976
05-07-05, 10:05 PM
.A close friend told her that this happens to people when they want to get rid of the shaittan within their lifes and look towards Allah.How valid this point made from her friend is i dont know but pretty scary:nervous:
no thats not really the case, we have both muslim aswell as kaffir jinns. naughty/troublesome & all sort of others. now that one must be a wierd jinn & ppl must not take such things lightly.
Anyways this is a freshie/wialayatee thread.............:D
Hijaban
05-07-05, 10:11 PM
On the matter of freshies and wialayatees
I dont see anything wrong with people sending money back home to their families aslong as they are also supporting their wives.And with wialayatees working one pay is not always enough if the couple have no kids then i dont see why wialayatee gals shouldnt work.After all its good to save for the future family u never know whats around the next corner!:D
On the matter of freshies and wialayatees
I dont see anything wrong with people sending money back home to their families aslong as they are also supporting their wives.And with wialayatees working one pay is not always enough if the couple have no kids then i dont see why wialayatee gals shouldnt work.After all its good to save for the future family u never know whats around the next corner!:D
i agree:up:
wen u go out to work it brings alot of independance, now it all depends on the girls (or boys) niyat wen they go out there in teh big wide world, some will take advantage and get up to all sorts, others will do their work and come home, i dont think we can generalise and say, why do women work.
Salman Al-Farsi
06-07-05, 08:10 AM
i agree:up:
wen u go out to work it brings alot of independance, now it all depends on the girls (or boys) niyat wen they go out there in teh big wide world, some will take advantage and get up to all sorts, others will do their work and come home, i dont think we can generalise and say, why do women work.
yeah, i agree.
Women have every right to work for whatever reason. :rolleyes:
yeah, i agree.
Women have every right to work for whatever reason. :rolleyes:
ok....was that agenuine comment or sarcasm i sense...... :rolleyes:
imran1976
06-07-05, 09:03 AM
yeah, i agree.
Women have every right to work for whatever reason. :rolleyes:
i disagree, only for genuine reason & specially that 'one wage packet not enuff' is not accepatable........:D
i agree:up:
wen u go out to work it brings alot of independance, now it all depends on the girls (or boys) niyat wen they go out there in teh big wide world, some will take advantage and get up to all sorts, others will do their work and come home, i dont think we can generalise and say, why do women work.
ya i agree it all depends on the niyah, i have always believe that in an ideal Islamic state 'the primary education sector shud be completely given to the females plus there must be separtate female hospital with female staff only.
i never say why do they work but i say only work for genuine reason or where theres a need. Now can someone tell me why Pakistan airforce is starting to have female pilots.....:nuts:
i disagree, only for genuine reason & specially that 'one wage packet not enuff' is not accepatable........:D
ya i agree it all depends on the niyah, i have always believe that in an ideal Islamic state 'the primary education sector shud be completely given to the females plus there must be separtate female hospital with female staff only.
i never say why do they work but i say only work for genuine reason or where theres a need. Now can someone tell me why Pakistan airforce is starting to have female pilots.....:nuts:
cos the male pilots cant ride the planes properly
imran1976
06-07-05, 09:12 AM
cos the male pilots cant ride the planes properly
that didn't made me laugh.....:nuts:
it's a part of mushy's gov. to introduce Pakistan as a Modern Islamic state in the world........:wacko:
(jo musharraf ka yaar hai, ghaddar hai, ghaddar hai)
that didn't made me laugh.....:nuts:
it's a part of mushy's gov. to introduce Pakistan as a Modern Islamic state in the world........:wacko:
it wasnt a joke .....:rolleyes:
i dont see a problem in female pilots, why do u think there is a problem with it?
Salman Al-Farsi
06-07-05, 09:54 AM
it wasnt a joke .....:rolleyes:
i dont see a problem in female pilots, why do u think there is a problem with it?
exactly..
Imran is just a TP who cant see women doing anything other than cooking and cleaning the house. :p
exactly..
Imran is just a TP who cant see women doing anything other than cooking and cleaning the house. :p
:D
imran, women go out to work ,even wen they live in villages, like going into fields to to pick corn (?) etc, which has the same dangers as going out to work in the city.
e.g they can still get up to allsorts
I can understand women working out of necessity, but i dont think career should come before children. Kid's need their mum's. I feel sorry for those kids who are always at playschemes and nurseries from dawn until dusk, etc and cant spend time at home. Same goes for fathers.. After all, money, wealth, posh nosh lifestyles go down the bin once your dead. Might as well settle for less and have a good quality of life. The only thing you leave in your legacy is wealth spent on good causes and your children. My mothers my best friend.. its sad to sometimes see other people who hardly get to see their parents or whose parents are around - but they can't really relate to them.
As for independence in Pakistan.. Well the women who tend to get up the ladder usually shed the hijab (not always), and talk with an awful accent - half english, half urdu.
imran1976
06-07-05, 10:21 AM
:D
imran, women go out to work ,even wen they live in villages, like going into fields to to pick corn (?) etc, which has the same dangers as going out to work in the city.
e.g they can still get up to allsorts
Salman whats TP......
ya i have a big problem with women as pilots in PAF. I think after this move we will be forced to change our stance from " second to none" to " second to everyone"....... :D
well i have made my view-point very clear, genuine reason & the need
so those women going in fields, it's the need.....
a woman working coz she has none other to support is a genuine reason.....
now to recruit women just to please the world , sorry thats not cool.... :D
theres a genuine reason when i say that women shudn't be in PAF....
Salman Al-Farsi
06-07-05, 10:23 AM
Witty is a freshie TP.
now to recruit women just to please the world , sorry thats not cool.... :D
TP = Typical Pakistani.
Pakistan's recruiting women not because it wants to liberalise them islamically, but rather this move is a product of westernization and globalisation.
Tsk, am no freshie. Am just a traditionalist :rolleyes:
imran1976
06-07-05, 10:26 AM
I can understand women working out of necessity, but i dont think career should come before children. Kid's need their mum's. I feel sorry for those kids who are always at playschemes and nurseries from dawn until dusk, etc and cant spend time at home. Same goes for fathers.. After all, money, wealth, posh nosh lifestyles go down the bin once your dead. Might as well settle for less and have a good quality of life. The only thing you leave in your legacy is wealth spent on good causes and your children. My mothers my best friend.. its sad to sometimes see other people who hardly get to see their parents or whose parents are around - but they can't really relate to them.
As for independence in Pakistan.. Well the women who tend to get up the ladder usually shed the hijab (not always), and talk with an awful accent - half english, half urdu.
ya very rightly said.... :up:
it's the negligence which has resulted in a mummy-daddy generation in our big cities............... :D
Salman Al-Farsi
06-07-05, 10:26 AM
TP = Typical Pakistani.
Pakistan's recruiting women not because it wants to liberalise them islamically, but rather this move is a product of westernization and globalisation.
Tsk, am no freshie. Am just a traditionalist :rolleyes:
traditionalist?? kia Matlab?
Well. I believe that no man should hinder any woman's progress in her deen and duniya. If she is doing good service for the ummah, helping the poor, charitable work etc then let her continue. Even if she is working to seek her own independence to stand up on her own two feet, or to further her knowledge, or to make financial gain, then it is her choice. However, responsibility towards the ummah should start from home, and therefore, activities beyond the house should not take priority over family and the household. By this, i dont mean cooking and cleaning, i mean, spending time together, talking and discussing openly - something not common nowadays. Kids are far too busy playing playstation, or with friends, mums are usually in the kitchen, dad's watching Geo. If their together, they just watch bollywood. Thats the typical Pak family.
Career should not be one's entire life. Any person who feels it should or is, is lost. I don't like people who are always after money money money.
Sabr and shukr are the key to life. Allah provides and sustains. At least, where ever we are, we are better off than a starving African child.. so we have a lot to be thankful for :)
Salman whats TP......
ya i have a big problem with women as pilots in PAF. I think after this move we will be forced to change our stance from " second to none" to " second to everyone"....... :D
well i have made my view-point very clear, genuine reason & the need
so those women going in fields, it's the need.....
a woman working coz she has none other to support is a genuine reason.....
now to recruit women just to please the world , sorry thats not cool.... :D
theres a genuine reason when i say that women shudn't be in PAF....
and u believe women in UK have a genuine reason to work? cos from what u saying it seems u think we are all working becos we want to, wen we dont really have to?
imran1976
06-07-05, 11:16 AM
Well. I believe that no man should hinder any woman's progress in her deen and duniya. If she is doing good service for the ummah, helping the poor, charitable work etc then let her continue. Even if she is working to seek her own independence to stand up on her own two feet, or to further her knowledge, or to make financial gain, then it is her choice. :)
but exactly how many of them move on this way. i agree no one shud hinder her progress in deen/good/charitable services etc. etc., but the duniya again my viewpoint is inly if theres a need/genuine reason.
i wud love to see what Quran & sunnah has to say on this debate, if someone cud come up with it..........
imran1976
06-07-05, 11:42 AM
and u believe women in UK have a genuine reason to work? cos from what u saying it seems u think we are all working becos we want to, wen we dont really have to?
i have never been to u.k, so i base my opinion on what ppl in this forum say & also on some brit born relatives.
with the exception of one or two i find most of the ppl saying that they work coz u.k is expensive.
Now a freshie/typical pakistani like me doesn't get impress with this excuse & this TP also fails to understand that in a family of 2/3/4 brothers & 1 father why a sister has to go out to work....... :rolleyes:
Some people come from dysfunctional background. I think a woman needs to learn not to conform to stereotypes - i.e. always dependant upon a man. A woman needs to learn to be a man :p
Dad's dont always take on their responsibility. And mashallah, 2/3/4 brothers?! Some people don't have fathers or brothers. What then? They have to work, study, and stand up on their own feet. Aray imran, we are living in the 21st century. Some people don't fulfil their duty towards their kids.
And the prophets wife Khadijah worked didnt she? :up:
i have never been to u.k, so i base my opinion on what ppl in this forum say & also on some brit born relatives.
with the exception of one or two i find most of the ppl saying that they work coz u.k is expensive.
Now a freshie/typical pakistani like me doesn't get impress with this excuse & this TP also fails to understand that in a family of 2/3/4 brothers & 1 father why a sister has to go out to work....... :rolleyes:
again its about expenses, its not jus about food and clothes here, its alot of other things that have to be paid too, u have to pay to watch your tv, you have to pay for the roads u walk on, u pay for the road you drive on, if u go on specific rds, u pay even mre (congestion charge), like witty sed, we have to pay to s*** , unless we carry a travel toilet, we pay to drive the car (petrol seprate) need i go on?
you TP's always get the simplified version from some brits, who are the ones who are probably sitting on state benefits and then giving it the big talk, like they are doing something in UK when they go pakistan :D
imran1976
06-07-05, 01:30 PM
Some people come from dysfunctional background. I think a woman needs to learn not to conform to stereotypes - i.e. always dependant upon a man. A woman needs to learn to be a man :p
Dad's dont always take on their responsibility. And mashallah, 2/3/4 brothers?! Some people don't have fathers or brothers. What then? They have to work, study, and stand up on their own feet. Aray imran, we are living in the 21st century. Some people don't fulfil their duty towards their kids.
And the prophets wife Khadijah worked didnt she? :up:
i think my posts above didn't made my viewpoint clear to the forum..... :rolleyes:
arey bhaeyah if Dad's doesn't take the responsibility or someone doesn't have brothers than the need automatically arises for the woman to work........ :D
& i do not believe in the stuff like 21st century & others......
over the years i have been listening/seeing the example of only Hazrat Khadija r.a. been given in this regard but ppl forget to mention that was b4 Islam & i wud love to know that did she carried on with the work after marriage with Hazrat Muhammad s.a.w & also after Islam plus she had a slave who used to do trading & she didn't went out herself.... :)
imran1976
06-07-05, 01:42 PM
again its about expenses, its not jus about food and clothes here, its alot of other things that have to be paid too, u have to pay to watch your tv, you have to pay for the roads u walk on, u pay for the road you drive on, if u go on specific rds, u pay even mre (congestion charge), like witty sed, we have to pay to s*** , unless we carry a travel toilet, we pay to drive the car (petrol seprate) need i go on?
you TP's always get the simplified version from some brits, who are the ones who are probably sitting on state benefits and then giving it the big talk, like they are doing something in UK when they go pakistan :D
so u wanna say that we pay nothing & our gov is too generous..... :D
we also pay taxes, tv tax, road tax,income tax,salea tax, property tax,g-sales tax, toilet tax etc. etc. etc.
okay can u give me some figures like how much it costs to educate / house rent etc. etc. let me compare it than..... :D
so u wanna say that we pay nothing & our gov is too generous..... :D
we also pay taxes, tv tax, road tax,income tax,salea tax, property tax,g-sales tax, toilet tax etc. etc. etc.
okay can u give me some figures like how much it costs to educate / house rent etc. etc. let me compare it than..... :D
omg not a list !
go on salman...
imran1976
06-07-05, 01:48 PM
omg not a list !
go on salman...
:1popcorn: :1popcorn: :1popcorn:
:1popcorn: :1popcorn: :1popcorn:
hey u got the net, why do u look them up in your own time :rolleyes:
then u can add everything up.
In surveys u will see London as the most expensive city to Live, we are more expensive than America to live in
Salman Al-Farsi
06-07-05, 03:32 PM
Imran i gave u a list in pm remember that.
like average wage is 13.5K pa, house rent is £800pm for 2bedroom flat in london, uni fees is 1000pa, Masters is upto 4000 pa. Bottle of milk cost over £1, can of coke is 55p.
hmm.. what else?
so u wanna say that we pay nothing & our gov is too generous..... :D
we also pay taxes, tv tax, road tax,income tax,salea tax, property tax,g-sales tax, toilet tax etc. etc. etc.
okay can u give me some figures like how much it costs to educate / house rent etc. etc. let me compare it than..... :D
In Pakistan you have toilet taxes?
Imran i gave u a list in pm remember that.
like average wage is 13.5K pa, house rent is £800pm for 2bedroom flat in london, uni fees is 1000pa, Masters is upto 4000 pa. Bottle of milk cost over £1, can of coke is 55p.
hmm.. what else?
£800 if your lucky. In central and west, its £300 a week. Uni fees soon £3000 a year.
*IslamicGirl*
06-07-05, 03:58 PM
:start:
:salams
I got a can of coke for 60p in Brum!
:salams
Salman Al-Farsi
06-07-05, 04:23 PM
£800 if your lucky. In central and west, its £300 a week. Uni fees soon £3000 a year.
exactly my point.
Thats £1200pm, average salary is £1200pm after tax, so how can people afford on one salary? therefore other members of family have to work and contribute.
True. But then again, if london is so unaffordable, why not just move out to another place? I know its easier said than done, but it can be done.
imran1976
06-07-05, 05:03 PM
Imran i gave u a list in pm remember that.
like average wage is 13.5K pa, house rent is £800pm for 2bedroom flat in london, uni fees is 1000pa, Masters is upto 4000 pa. Bottle of milk cost over £1, can of coke is 55p.
hmm.. what else?
ya i know u gave i just wanted u to post it here................:D
okay it's analysis time now.... London vs Lahore..:nuts:
lets take all these items as a %age of salary one by one....
now u'r Rent will be if i take 1000 p as rent 83.33% of u'r salary, here in lahore Rent as %age of salary wud range from 80%---150%, so it's almost equal!
Masters will be 28% in london ,here in lahore it wud be 50%---70%
Lahore expensive....@)
Bottle of milk will be 0.11% in london & in lahore it's 0.25%
Lahore expensive...:p
Can of Coke will be 0.045% in london & in lahore it's 0.35%
Lahore expensive....:buttkick:
Conclusion: Lahore is more expensive
Salman bring in some more items.......:1popcorn:
imran1976
06-07-05, 05:04 PM
In Pakistan you have toilet taxes?
mara in 120 posts u'r eyes went only on toilet tax....:D
ya we do pay but the name is different.....
How can you live on 13.5K, especially if one has a family to feed/clothe etc?
ya i know u gave i just wanted u to post it here................:D
okay it's analysis time now.... London vs Lahore..:nuts:
lets take all these items as a %age of salary one by one....
now u'r Rent will be if i take 1000 p as rent 83.33% of u'r salary, here in lahore Rent as %age of salary wud range from 80%---150%, so it's almost equal!
Masters will be 28% in london ,here in lahore it wud be 50%---70%
Lahore expensive....@)
Bottle of milk will be 0.11% in london & in lahore it's 0.25%
Lahore expensive...:p
Can of Coke will be 0.045% in london & in lahore it's 0.35%
Lahore expensive....:buttkick:
Conclusion: Lahore is more expensive
Salman bring in some more items.......:1popcorn:
Ahem, your calculations made no sense bro . :rubeyes:
so are u saying bro imran, that people come to UK from pakistan becos lifestyle and living is cheaper?
imran1976
06-07-05, 05:20 PM
Ahem, your calculations made no sense bro . :rubeyes:
what no sense....:rubeyes: , so whats the criteria with which we can judge which country is expensive, maybe u can come with some other calculations....:rolleyes:
i have already answered that why ppl go to u.k, pounds converted into pak rupees makes alot of money.
Admit it as compared to pakistan , u.k is cheap..
i'm awaiting response to post#115
mara in 120 posts u'r eyes went only on toilet tax....:D
ya we do pay but the name is different.....
Sorry but your country culture is really overwhelming .I read yesterday exactly this "facility" - the free toilet its so appreciate in your country and today i heard something different - even this is not for free.
Now whom to believe.:rolleyes:
what no sense....:rubeyes: , so whats the criteria with which we can judge which country is expensive, maybe u can come with some other calculations....:rolleyes:
i have already answered that why ppl go to u.k, pounds converted into pak rupees makes alot of money.
Admit it as compared to pakistan , u.k is cheap..
i'm awaiting response to post#115
no way is Pakistan cheaper than UK, dont beleive it for one minute.
Purchasing power parity --- from cia world factbook online.
The PPP measures how much a currency can buy in terms of an international measure (usually dollars), since goods and services have different prices in some countries than in others.
Pakistan: $2,200 (2004 est.)
UK: $29,600 (2004 est.)
Imran, you lose :p
Purchasing power parity --- from cia world factbook online.
The PPP measures how much a currency can buy in terms of an international measure (usually dollars), since goods and services have different prices in some countries than in others.
Pakistan: $2,200 (2004 est.)
UK: $29,600 (2004 est.)
Imran, you lose :p
ab bol imran , and none of your percentage stuff!
Niqaabi
06-07-05, 06:55 PM
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:scratch:
hey sis, i was wondering wen u gonna get here
Niqaabi
06-07-05, 07:03 PM
whats thjee point of this thread again? i thought the we already discussed this?
anways fill me in
whats thjee point of this thread again? i thought the we already discussed this?
anways fill me in
wrong title, this is about wilaytees :D
have a read of the last couple of pages
imran1976
06-07-05, 09:54 PM
Purchasing power parity --- from cia world factbook online.
The PPP measures how much a currency can buy in terms of an international measure (usually dollars), since goods and services have different prices in some countries than in others.
Pakistan: $2,200 (2004 est.)
UK: $29,600 (2004 est.)
Imran, you lose :p
bro the theory is earning & spending in u'r own respective countries , this ppp takes into account like u earn pounds & spend in pakistani market , obviously in that sense pakistan might seem very cheap. so it shud be like this earn in pak & spend in pak , in the same way earn in uk & spend in uk.
thats way i gave a very simple analysis , the ratio of a particular expense to salary. In that way u.k proved to be cheaper in almost all the items.
if u wanna take figures than inflation rate in pak is 4.5% whereas in u.k it's 1.7%. per cap income of pak is $625 whereas it's $28000 for u.k.
for u.k it's low inflation rate & high income whereas it's the opposite for pak.
so whose the loser now.....:D
Hijaban
06-07-05, 10:05 PM
Wealth in the UK in terms of money is spread out whereas in Pakistan its concentrated in the hands of few.Therefore easier for people in the UK to say that Pakistan is cheap.You need to remember that although we pay tax in England in pakistan they have to pay for almost everything health, education getting rid of the police if their bothering you (bribery:D ).Plus they do not have the security of claiming benefits if they get into financial trouble.
imran1976
06-07-05, 10:14 PM
Wealth in the UK in terms of money is spread out whereas in Pakistan its concentrated in the hands of few.Therefore easier for people in the UK to say that Pakistan is cheap.You need to remember that although we pay tax in England in pakistan they have to pay for almost everything health, education getting rid of the police if their bothering you (bribery:D ).Plus they do not have the security of claiming benefits if they get into financial trouble.
at-least one wilayatee admits to the truth....:D
ya thats very true & unfortunate that wealth is concentrated in few hands.The word 'facilities' do not exist in our dictionary, we don't know what that word means, yet i see wilayatees complaining here.okay u ppl come here just live for a month," nahi nani yaad aae to phir kehna"....:D
Salman Al-Farsi
06-07-05, 10:15 PM
Wealth in the UK in terms of money is spread out whereas in Pakistan its concentrated in the hands of few.Therefore easier for people in the UK to say that Pakistan is cheap.You need to remember that although we pay tax in England in pakistan they have to pay for almost everything health, education getting rid of the police if their bothering you (bribery:D ).Plus they do not have the security of claiming benefits if they get into financial trouble.
I have to pay for health too, have to pay at the chemist, dentist alone charges me £42 per visit and charges extra for bits and bobs... £20 to the optician... I dont knw why they got the impression that all that is free for us here. :scratch:
at-least one wilayatee admits to the truth....:D
ya thats very true & unfortunate that wealth is concentrated in few hands.The word 'facilities' do not exist in our dictionary, we don't know what that word means, yet i see wilayatees complaining here.okay u ppl come here just live for a month," nahi nani yaad aae to phir kehna"....:D
lol@ nani
imran1976
06-07-05, 10:20 PM
my post#115 is waiting for a response from the wilayatees....:D
Hijaban
06-07-05, 10:26 PM
Yes ok true but atleast we get financial help over here.Theres a family I know in Pakistan mother and daughter passed away within two days of one another due to ill health .They couldnt afford treatment therefore what they could afford was not good enough.The daughter had three children all under 17 youngest 5 who the father looked after but aprox two months after their mother passed away their father passed away.The children can't receive some sort of government based financial help therefore family from England are helping as best they can.Finacialy i think its more difficult in Pakistan
I have to pay for health too, have to pay at the chemist, dentist alone charges me £42 per visit and charges extra for bits and bobs... £20 to the optician... I dont knw why they got the impression that all that is free for us here. :scratch:
Salman Al-Farsi
06-07-05, 10:46 PM
i think my posts above didn't made my viewpoint clear to the forum..... :rolleyes:
arey bhaeyah if Dad's doesn't take the responsibility or someone doesn't have brothers than the need automatically arises for the woman to work........ :D
& i do not believe in the stuff like 21st century & others......
over the years i have been listening/seeing the example of only Hazrat Khadija r.a. been given in this regard but ppl forget to mention that was b4 Islam & i wud love to know that did she carried on with the work after marriage with Hazrat Muhammad s.a.w & also after Islam plus she had a slave who used to do trading & she didn't went out herself.... :)
Bro, as I said, to make ends meet women have to go work.
However I would personally have an issue with my wife going to work once we have kids, because alhamdulilah i have my own place and a wage which is more than enough to raise a family. But its not the same for everyone, alot of my friends wives have to work even if its part time for savings etc.
Life here is not how its painted for you back home.
Hijaban
06-07-05, 10:56 PM
If the couple have no children then i dont see the problem with women working however if the husband was earning enough money and didn't want his wife to work then i can understand that.
If the couple have no children then i dont see the problem with women working however if the husband was earning enough money and didn't want his wife to work then i can understand that.
understand that? im gonna make it a clause in my marriage contract, that i aint working once im married to him :D
(unless we are in dire DIRE straits and i really REALLY gotta work)
Hijaban
14-07-05, 10:55 PM
understand that? im gonna make it a clause in my marriage contract, that i aint working once im married to him :D
(unless we are in dire DIRE straits and i really REALLY gotta work)
:D
Freshie
18-07-05, 07:36 PM
i dont like my wife to work, but after i get visa becasue if she dont work i dont get permenant visa. ;)
i dont like my wife to work, but after i get visa becasue if she dont work i dont get permenant visa. ;)
awww freshie yaar, where u bin @ the passport office? :D
those places are busy arent they....
hows your search for a wilaytee wife going?
Freshie
18-07-05, 07:42 PM
awww freshie yaar, where u bin @ the passport office? :D
those places are busy arent they....
hows your search for a wilaytee wife going?
I was hiding, you know what happend in london.. yeah i didnt goto work. my boss sack me.
and now university ppl report me to immigration office and i m running away, i hope i find rishtaa soon or its byebye uk. :(
I was hiding, you know what happend in london.. yeah i didnt goto work. my boss sack me.
and now university ppl report me to immigration office and i m running away, i hope i find rishtaa soon or its byebye uk. :(
your on the run frshie? :o
y dont u find a job in a restaurant, they will never think of looking in there..
imran1976
19-07-05, 11:19 AM
but after i get visa becasue if she dont work i dont get permenant visa. ;)
bad freshie' bad freshie.....:spunch:
bad freshie' bad freshie.....:spunch:
i thought u were gonna say he is being "clever" :D
Salman Al-Farsi
19-07-05, 11:26 AM
I was hiding, you know what happend in london.. yeah i didnt goto work. my boss sack me.
and now university ppl report me to immigration office and i m running away, i hope i find rishtaa soon or its byebye uk. :(
Let us know if there is anythign we can do to help your situation bro.
imran1976
19-07-05, 11:29 AM
i thought u were gonna say he is being "clever" :D
wrong thinkin.....
frshie wants her wife to work so he can get a permanent visa, huh freshie....:wacko:
wrong thinkin.....
frshie wants her wife to work so he can get a permanent visa, huh freshie....:wacko:
lol, glad to hear it
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 07:14 AM
;) Still i can't understand wats freshie.But one thing that this thread seems very intresting.really intresting especially Like some comments of the users...............
does this thread has any part-1 also.......?
does anyone else find this thread pathetic?
imran1976
13-02-06, 09:02 AM
not me....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 11:05 AM
Something is burning very badly..............:afro: :rofl1: :55:
Let us know if there is anythign we can do to help your situation bro.
u looooserrr....uh aheemm not u salman...the guy ure talking to.
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 11:17 AM
u looooserrr....uh aheemm not u salman...the guy ure talking to.
:rotfl: :rofl1: :rotfl: :rofl1: :rotfl: :rofl1: :rotfl: :rofl1: :rotfl:
Telling about yourself.....
Are you saying I should post all the stories my father been telling me about how he came to this country, and how he worked in factory for 18 hrs a day and went to collge in the evenings and by the time he was my age, he had his own house, car, wife and kids..:rolleyes:
awww bro, thank you remeberbering my DELETED (:( ) thread!
i miss it too :(
ok but we have part 2 so lets go!!
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 11:19 AM
awww bro, thank you remeberbering my DELETED (:( ) thread!
i miss it too :(
ok but we have part 2 so lets go!!
Ok lets Move on!!!!!!:D
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 11:25 AM
wats this thread about ? :p cant b bothered reading it from page 1 :p
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 11:26 AM
i dont like my wife to work, but after i get visa becasue if she dont work i dont get permenant visa. ;)
Wats up with permanent visa.Got it or not.......?:rolleyes:
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 11:29 AM
wats this thread about ? :p cant b bothered reading it from page 1 :p
freshi part 1 thread was deleted this one is part 2,I get the impression something very intresting in this thread.
I also can't bother to read from the first page.............:D
Plz..can someone can give summary wat this thread is all about...?:inlove:
its about stories if anyone has any of what happens to a freshie once he marries a boy/girl from uk and comes over....
i know one bro who married a red passport aHEM AHEM, i mean a brit girl!! ;)
once he got his p/port, kicked her to the kirb, proper jekyll and hyde characther
3 years later
UPDATE, he now lives with his sister and her hubbie................. in their garden SHED whihc has a sink, bed toilet.
oh, and allegedly always getting beaten up by his sister's hubbie.....hmmmm
P.S am i evil for gettign abit of satisfaction outta that ending? :rubeyes: :rolleyes:
imran1976
13-02-06, 11:51 AM
its about stories if anyone has any of what happens to a freshie once he marries a boy/girl from uk and comes over....
i know one bro who married a red passport aHEM AHEM, i mean a brit girl!! ;)
once he got his p/port, kicked her to the kirb, proper jekyll and hyde characther
3 years later
UPDATE, he now lives with his sister and her hubbie................. in their garden SHED whihc has a sink, bed toilet.
oh, and allegedly always getting beaten up by his sister's hubbie.....hmmmm
P.S am i evil for gettign abit of satisfaction outta that ending? :rubeyes: :rolleyes:
sad story....:( ........:D
sad story....:( ........:D
ahem ......yes.....err......very sad......:rolleyes: .... .... .... :rofl1:
imran1976
13-02-06, 11:56 AM
just wondering where's bro freshie, i hope he has a permanent visa now...:D :D
just wondering where's bro freshie, i hope he has a permanent visa now...:D :D
Last time i heard he was working in kebabish wiht the rest of the freshies and he said he had found a rishtha to help him get visa :p
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 11:58 AM
OoOoO this thread shud b kewl :p
well i kno a freshie who come ova..acting all goody goody and how he is genuine..and now hes telling his wife to keep paying the mortgage off put to put the house under his name..and his money which he earns goes back to his mom..and goes bak to pakistan as he wishes widout tellin his mrs..wha a prick huh
and anutha freshie..finks hes a brit inside out..tries speaking english..LOL..funniest was we all sat down to eat..rice n tht..we all eating wid spoon..but NO dis freshie gotta show he the b all end all...Fork and spoon to eat his rice :rolleyes:
oh and saw one at the gym...wearing shorts wid dem shows u buy from clarks wid a pakistan cricket cap wid dem back yardie jumpers :rolleyes:
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:00 PM
Last time i heard he was working in kebabish wiht the rest of the freshies and he said he had found a rishtha to help him get visa :p
why all the freshies there work in restaurants, know a few of them..:rolleyes:
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:01 PM
Last time i heard he was working in kebabish wiht the rest of the freshies and he said he had found a rishtha to help him get visa :p
i hope his fate is not the same as the one u mentioned....@)
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:03 PM
OoOoO this thread shud b kewl :p
well i kno a freshie who come ova..acting all goody goody and how he is genuine..and now hes telling his wife to keep paying the mortgage off put to put the house under his name..and his money which he earns goes back to his mom..and goes bak to pakistan as he wishes widout tellin his mrs..wha a prick huh
and anutha freshie..finks hes a brit inside out..tries speaking english..LOL..funniest was we all sat down to eat..rice n tht..we all eating wid spoon..but NO dis freshie gotta show he the b all end all...Fork and spoon to eat his rice :rolleyes:
oh and saw one at the gym...wearing shorts wid dem shows u buy from clarks wid a pakistan cricket cap wid dem back yardie jumpers :rolleyes:
did he succeed with that....:D :rolleyes:
why all the freshies there work in restaurants, know a few of them..:rolleyes:
cos all the corner shops taken by the patels :p (no offence)
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:11 PM
cos all the corner shops taken by the patels :p (no offence)
patels , is that somesort of indain cast??
i know someone earning handsome income here but he was crazy abt u.k, now i have come to know that he wash dishes there....:rolleyes: ..:torture:
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 12:12 PM
did he succeed with that....:D :rolleyes:
erm i dunno..i had to leave the room cus i cudnt contain my laughter :rolleyes:
oh erm me and d boys from UK went pizza hut in lahore...erm dem paki boys..ROFLLLL we just yammin dem pizzas wid our hands..dis guy using a fork to hold d pizza down and a SPOON to try and cut it :wacko: wats it wid dese freshies and fork/spoon ? :p
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:14 PM
erm i dunno..i had to leave the room cus i cudnt contain my laughter :rolleyes:
oh erm me and d boys from UK went pizza hut in lahore...erm dem paki boys..ROFLLLL we just yammin dem pizzas wid our hands..dis guy using a fork to hold d pizza down and a SPOON to try and cut it :wacko: wats it wid dese freshies and fork/spoon ? :p
not most of them succeed i know that....:D , hehehe i use my hands instead of that fuuny fork...:up:
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 12:15 PM
hehehe we was on Jamaat in a mosk in lahore..and dis ung lad came..jeans so tight i thought his butt cheeks were gonna burst :p anyway..he like propa rubbin his head in sajda against d floor weeping like mad..i was like vah vah kya baat..mashaAllah :D so i got talking to him..he goes yaar feels so good to b back at mosk...i goes aye must b emotional..he like well i came to do shukr..i got my visa for dubai im off 2moro :eek3: lol and his mate was begging me to make dua he gets visa for UK :eek3:
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 12:16 PM
not most of them succeed i know that....:D , hehehe i use my hands instead of that fuuny fork...:up:
stop chatting bongiya :p u kno u use fork n spoon :p
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:17 PM
hehehe we was on Jamaat in a mosk in lahore..and dis ung lad came..jeans so tight i thought his butt cheeks were gonna burst :p anyway..he like propa rubbin his head in sajda against d floor weeping like mad..i was like vah vah kya baat..mashaAllah :D so i got talking to him..he goes yaar feels so good to b back at mosk...i goes aye must b emotional..he like well i came to do shukr..i got my visa for dubai im off 2moro :eek3: lol and his mate was begging me to make dua he gets visa for UK :eek3:
so molvi sahab did u make Dua. if not u shud, the dude wanna work in a restaurant....:( ....:D
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:18 PM
stop chatting bongiya :p u kno u use fork n spoon :p
not chatting bongiyan, desi style is the best.....;)
what abt havin tea in a desi style....:D
We are all freshie's. And I mean that seriously. For the majority of us, our parents came from the Indian subcontinent. We are therefore the offspring of the freshies.
And going back to expenses...the inhabitants of a country always percieve their place to be more expensive than other cities. E.g, for us Pakistan seems cheap, but for the locals, it's a completely different case altogether. Seriously, try living in Pak on the wage of a local person..and you will see its not cheap at all.
patels , is that somesort of indain cast??
i know someone earning handsome income here but he was crazy abt u.k, now i have come to know that he wash dishes there....:rolleyes: ..:torture:
When they come to the UK, they do the jobs here that due to nakhrey they wouldn't even contemplate doing in Pak; washing dishes, toilets etc
I don't understand why people abroad think the second they step foot in the UK, they'll get an office, desk/chair, suit boot job. Talk about living in fairyland :rolleyes:
erm i dunno..i had to leave the room cus i cudnt contain my laughter :rolleyes:
oh erm me and d boys from UK went pizza hut in lahore...erm dem paki boys..ROFLLLL we just yammin dem pizzas wid our hands..dis guy using a fork to hold d pizza down and a SPOON to try and cut it :wacko: wats it wid dese freshies and fork/spoon ? :p
lol @ fork & spoon , heeheehee.
tracksuit with shoes is the best one, u can spot a freshie a mile of down teh street with that outfit.....especially wen they have the "handle-bar" moustache to match :p
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 12:31 PM
so molvi sahab did u make Dua. if not u shud, the dude wanna work in a restaurant....:( ....:D
molvi saab?? :eek3: erm why u called me a maulvi saab for? :S
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 12:32 PM
lol @ fork & spoon , heeheehee.
tracksuit with shoes is the best one, u can spot a freshie a mile of down teh street with that outfit.....especially wen they have the "handle-bar" moustache to match :p
looool@handle bars :p :p aye when they sit der twisting it around :p hehe u cud do chin ups wid dem tings :p i wonder how they walk through doors wid dem tings:p
slmz :)
13-02-06, 12:35 PM
haha!
and they cal it freshieeeeeeeeee luuurrrvvv!!
lmao!!!
Al-Irhaab
13-02-06, 12:44 PM
erm i dunno..i had to leave the room cus i cudnt contain my laughter :rolleyes:
oh erm me and d boys from UK went pizza hut in lahore...erm dem paki boys..ROFLLLL we just yammin dem pizzas wid our hands..dis guy using a fork to hold d pizza down and a SPOON to try and cut it :wacko: wats it wid dese freshies and fork/spoon ? :p
nah the funniest thing is that they thing going to maccys and pizza hutt is like going to a five star restaurant... me and the boys used to go in our kenchy chapal and salvar kameeze or this one time we just got back from jamat and we were like wearing salvar kameeze covered with dust and we walked in and all these guys dressed in wedding clothes looked at us thought what the heck... :rolleyes:
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:48 PM
When they come to the UK, they do the jobs here that due to nakhrey they wouldn't even contemplate doing in Pak; washing dishes, toilets etc
I don't understand why people abroad think the second they step foot in the UK, they'll get an office, desk/chair, suit boot job. Talk about living in fairyland :rolleyes:
so u wanna say that to qualify for a decent job in u.k one first has to go through washing dishes, cleaning toilets. thats's intersting....:rolleyes:
nah the funniest thing is that they thing going to maccys and pizza hutt is like going to a five star restaurant... me and the boys used to go in our kenchy chapal and salvar kameeze or this one time we just got back from jamat and we were like wearing salvar kameeze covered with dust and we walked in and all these guys dressed in wedding clothes looked at us thought what the heck... :rolleyes:
Well akhee, when you have never had things such as good clothes, shoes etc or been to such places that we consider "not special", when you have been raised and seen poverty, anything like the above will do.
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:50 PM
lol @ fork & spoon , heeheehee.
tracksuit with shoes is the best one, u can spot a freshie a mile of down teh street with that outfit.....especially wen they have the "handle-bar" moustache to match :p
whats wrong with that outfit....:confused:
so u wanna say that to qualify for a decent job in u.k one first has to go through washing dishes, cleaning toilets. thats's intersting....:rolleyes:
:rolleyes: No, I did not say that. I said that MOST of those who come from Pakistan do wash dishes, work in restaurants because that is ALL they CAN do. Some don't have qualifications, or if they do, they are not sufficient, or up to UK standards.
Those who do have a decent job, have WORKED hard for it.
The people who annoy me are those who expect everything to be handed on a plate..as if the UK is made out of fairydust that you sprinkle and voila...there's your suited booted naukree the second you step off the plane :rolleyes:
imran1976
13-02-06, 12:58 PM
:rolleyes: No, I did not say that. I said that MOST of those who come from Pakistan do wash dishes, work in restaurants because that is ALL they CAN do. Some don't have qualifications, or if they do, they are not sufficient, or up to UK standards.
Those who do have a decent job, have WORKED hard for it.
The people who annoy me are those who expect everything to be handed on a plate..as if the UK is made out of fairydust that you sprinkle and voila...there's your suited booted naukree the second you step off the plane :rolleyes:
believe me or not i know qualified guyz working in such places. i always say them whats the charm of workin in such places, they say no we don't work in such places,lol but i know they do.........:D
believe me or not i know qualified guyz working in such places. i always say them whats the charm of workin in such places, they say no we don't work in such places,lol but i know they do.........:D
Yes, well qualified or not, they work there, because they can't work anywhere else. And they don't admit to it, because people will laugh and ridicule them.
After all, what status (aukaat) does a waiter in Pak have? They get treated like dogs. Subhan'Allah, people who treat other's like that to make themselves and their ego's puff up are despicable.
Al-Irhaab
13-02-06, 01:02 PM
Well akhee, when you have never had things such as good clothes, shoes etc or been to such places that we consider "not special", when you have been raised and seen poverty, anything like the above will do.
im not talking about the poor freshies that come here... theyre a buzz... im talking about the rich ones and the middle class ones in pakistan who think its special to go to western places.... me i preferred the ghetto freshies theyre a buzz... :D
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 01:09 PM
im not talking about the poor freshies that come here... theyre a buzz... im talking about the rich ones and the middle class ones in pakistan who think its special to go to western places.... me i preferred the ghetto freshies theyre a buzz... :D
u been jamat to pakistan aswell? :p where did ya get tashkeeled to? :p
rofl when i went to mcdonalds..guy was tryna to b well smart wid his english..so i asked him..where u come from in lahore den? he replies "i came from the backdoor" :eek3: i goes erm no i meant where in lahore r u from..not how did u get into mcdonalds :p
imran1976
13-02-06, 01:09 PM
Yes, well qualified or not, they work there, because they can't work anywhere else. And they don't admit to it, because people will laugh and ridicule them.
After all, what status (aukaat) does a waiter in Pak have? They get treated like dogs. Subhan'Allah, people who treat other's like that to make themselves and their ego's puff up are despicable.
sure they can work in other places, may i assume that such jobs r reserved for asians by the goras?
& what aukaat does a waiter have in u.k?
the point i wanna make is when one is sure to wash dishes/toilets in western countries still why ppl r crazy to move on ....
imran1976
13-02-06, 01:11 PM
u been jamat to pakistan aswell? :p where did ya get tashkeeled to? :p
rofl when i went to mcdonalds..guy was tryna to b well smart wid his english..so i asked him..where u come from in lahore den? he replies "i came from the backdoor" :eek3: i goes erm no i meant where in lahore r u from..not how did u get into mcdonalds :p
lol when someone here talks to me in english i always reply in urdu...:D
sure they can work in other places, may i assume that such jobs r reserved for asians by the goras?
& what aukaat does a waiter have in u.k?
the point i wanna make is when one is sure to wash dishes/toilets in western countries still why ppl r crazy to move on ....
What other places can they work in? If they don't know a word of English? Indian restaurants, and the like, are owned by asians. Hence the reason why the majority of the employee's are asian. Those from Pak find it easier getting a job (you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours kind of thing - look out for one another etc) there compared to anywhere else.
Well, the waiter's/waitresses rarely get screamed at here :rolleyes: A few probably get treated the same as those waiters in Pak, but on the whole, they do get get treated like a galli da khuta.
Why do they want to move? To secure a better future for themselves and their family (financial). After all, a monthly wage of Rs5000 in Pak barely makes ends meet (expenses for food, clothes, children's schooling, bills- gas, electricity, phone etc).
Emelianenko
13-02-06, 01:24 PM
lol when someone here talks to me in english i always reply in urdu...:D
other way round in UK..speak funjabi/Urdu to a freshie and he replies in english :p
imran1976
13-02-06, 01:38 PM
What other places can they work in? If they don't know a word of English? Indian restaurants, and the like, are owned by asians. Hence the reason why the majority of the employee's are asian. Those from Pak find it easier getting a job (you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours kind of thing - look out for one another etc) there compared to anywhere else.
Well, the waiter's/waitresses rarely get screamed at here :rolleyes: A few probably get treated the same as those waiters in Pak, but on the whole, they do get get treated like a galli da khuta.
Why do they want to move? To secure a better future for themselves and their family (financial). After all, a monthly wage of Rs5000 in Pak barely makes ends meet (expenses for food, clothes, children's schooling, bills- gas, electricity, phone etc).
eby i'm talkin abt qualified peoples & i can guarantee u that they can speak english.........
so freshies r ready to be gali ka kutta for money, where's the self respect:rolleyes:
yaik wash toilets for a better future , in such case i'm more than happy without a better future...:D
ya it's tough here but i think if ppl stop spending unnecessarily on cloths/shoes/mcdonaleds/kfc they can save alot...:up:
eby i'm talkin abt qualified peoples & i can guarantee u that they can speak english.........
so freshies r ready to be gali ka kutta for money, where's the self respect:rolleyes:
yaik wash toilets for a better future , in such case i'm more than happy without a better future...:D
ya it's tough here but i think if ppl stop spending unnecessarily on cloths/shoes/mcdonaleds/kfc they can save alot...:up:
Qualified....sorry to break it to you, but Pak qualification isn't worth much here. Nothing at all actually.
Well, its all about the money. Self-respect? They care more about what kind of respect they'll get in Pak since they are now walaiytee's :p
Ruprecht
13-02-06, 02:00 PM
lol when someone here talks to me in english i always reply in urdu...:D
Heh. Know what ya mean. When someone tries to talk English to me I always reply in Oz. Cheeky buggers :D
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 02:05 PM
Heh. Know what ya mean. When someone tries to talk English to me I always reply in Oz. Cheeky buggers :D
:buttkick: :buttkick: :buttkick:
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 02:08 PM
Qualified....sorry to break it to you, but Pak qualification isn't worth much here. Nothing at all actually.
Well, its all about the money. Self-respect? They care more about what kind of respect they'll get in Pak since they are now walaiytee's :p
I know the guyz who r getting over age but not having their merriage coz they want to marriage a foreigner girl.she will take him away with her.
their parents r also happy and that boyz don't work here and want to go in europe for better future.Who don't work in Pk can't even work any where.
So, it seemes funny to me...
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 02:10 PM
Qualified....sorry to break it to you, but Pak qualification isn't worth much here. Nothing at all actually.
Well, its all about the money. Self-respect? They care more about what kind of respect they'll get in Pak since they are now walaiytee's :p
Not in all cases sis.......;)
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 04:20 PM
All freshies may ran away to Uk...........:D
No answer..............:hidban:
imran1976
13-02-06, 04:28 PM
Qualified....sorry to break it to you, but Pak qualification isn't worth much here. Nothing at all actually.
Well, its all about the money. Self-respect? They care more about what kind of respect they'll get in Pak since they are now walaiytee's :p
sorry to break it to u also, i have some knowledge abt brit education system, o-level, A-level , Acca, cima there's nothing extra ordinary abt it.:D
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 04:38 PM
sorry to break it to u also, i have some knowledge abt brit education system, o-level, A-level , Acca, cima there's nothing extra ordinary abt it.:D
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
imran1976
13-02-06, 04:46 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
koi masla hai..:rolleyes:
m-shahzad
13-02-06, 04:50 PM
koi masla hai..:rolleyes:
I can't understand wat have u written man.......Its not your URDU forum:D
So plzz make it understandable:rolleyes: