Is there a seperation of church and state in Islam.

[CV25]

Hello, pardon my ignorant questions but, I was wondering if someone could help expailn some things to me.

I am wondering about the scope of Islam. In my world, there is a government that is seperate from whatever religion that is practiced by and individual citizen. He/she is free to choose the god he/she prays to.

It appears to me that in an idealic Islamic culture, Islam is both the religion of all of the citizens and is also very prominent in the government. Is this true?

Were the taliban the founders of what might be considered the best attempt at an Islamic nation so far? If not, what was the problem? Why did they fail?

In a proper Islamic society, Islam is impregnated in all facets of a persons life? Persoanl life, business, religion (obviously) and government?

Thanks!

[AbuMubarak]

Originally posted by CV25
Hello, pardon my ignorant questions but, I was wondering if someone could help expailn some things to me.

I am wondering about the scope of Islam. In my world, there is a government that is seperate from whatever religion that is practiced by and individual citizen. He/she is free to choose the god he/she prays to.

It appears to me that in an idealic Islamic culture, Islam is both the religion of all of the citizens and is also very prominent in the government. Is this true? YES

Were the taliban the founders of what might be considered the best attempt at an Islamic nation so far? I PERSONALLY AGREE If not, what was the problem? ALLAH KNOWS BEST, MUSLIMS WILL BE TESTED, WITH SOME SETBACKS Why did they fail? ALLAH KNOWS BEST, MUSLIMS WILL BE TESTED, WITH SOME SETBACKS

In a proper Islamic society, Islam is impregnated in all facets of a persons life? YES Persoanl life, business, religion (obviously) and government? YES

Thanks!

[Bintul Huda]

Hello CV25, Peace to you

As with many questions on Islam, you usually get a variety of answers from Muslims. There are some so-called 'secularist' muslims but if you read through Islamic literature esp. the Qur'an you will find it abundant with rules on how to conduct all aspects of life, including politics. So no, there is no separation between religion and the state in Islam.

Islam caters for all aspects of life and very few muslims would disagree about that. Islam is not veiwed as a simply something to believe in, rather it shapes your whole world view and the way you live your life. But that doesn't mean that it thinks for you, rather, the idea is that Islamic laws are compatible with human nature.

Where Muslims differ is in how exactly you would practically run an Islamic state. Some on this forum would say that the taliban were the only true Islamic government in the modern era. Many more would disagree. In my personal view Taliban were not about simply establishing an Islamic state. There were tribal and religious interests involved. Also, they didn't necessarily follow Islamic rulings on all Issues. I think that those who regard them as a near-perfect Islamic state have disregarded the many complex issues that come with governing such a complicated country as Afghanistan. There are many other states which when established claimed to be purely Islamic e.g. pakistan, Iran etc. But if you look at the systems of governance in these countries, you will find many differences. The fact is you cannot disregard demographics and history as well as their particular interpretation of Islam when assessing the 'Islamicness' of their governance.

So in short, whilst Muslims appear to agree that Islam encompasses the political as well as spiritual domain, there are many discrepancies when it comes to applying basic Islamic sharia laws in the modern world. Hope that answers your query.

Peace