Sami Yusufs latest song! OMG!

[Masumah]

man i neva approved of this sami yusuf guy..his so called nasheeds had toooooooo much music in em..he tried to justify the music by sayin that percussion instruments are allowed! well i dotn think thats true......as for his latest song not nasheed...its about his mother and its like a bollywood song mixed in wiv a bit of madonna, robbie williams..and th other popstars! so much music!.....u know the man has a nice voice maashallah if he used it for quranic recitation..it would ave been beautiful..but im rally disappointed that hes creating so called nasheeds like this. i mean the porphet did make it clear that music is not allowed and only the duff is allowed....to differentiate a wedding from a funeral and for the callin of jihad! hes so obviously used the piano in this next song about mother......wot do u lot think?

[muslim_sis]

havent heard his new 'song' ... lol
yeh i did hear a bit if those shaky instruments in his other songs (duno wat they r called lol)

hav u got a link to da song about his mother?

oh yeh , speaking of this ... did u hear about yusuf islam being in ronan keatings video ... ! allah knows best, but i never saw the video , was just told by many ... and there was an extract in 'emel' magazine , and apparently he said that he's never heard that music is haram in islam , all da time that he has been a muslim ... but i cant really believe that , coz then why would he give up his music career !??

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams
:salams

I like it it's beautiful, and touching


Seriosuly i'm not referring to you sis or anyone here but i have noticed people elsewhere will go ranting like mad about this nasheed issue yet they wont jump up the guy whose behind harrods do they? isn't he doing.. what the word BIdaah and wrong stuff and so on?


So people can't stop music together but if given the alternative which is a transition from one extreme downfall to a lesser downfall so what?


Isn't that good in the long run?

:salams

[muslim_sis]

islamic girl - i dont get anything of wat u just said , lol ,, sorry - explain more wat u mean plz :S

[Chained_Water]

:salams:

Sis I think the issue with nasheeds is the fact that they can be wolves in sheeps clothing. The Harrods guy (although I'm not sure what you're referring to in regards to him) or Britney Spears don't make out they are "Islamic". But these nasheed singers DO.. yet they do and promote something that is considered by most to be unislamic. These concerts with girls bopping up and down and musical instruments and so on are not islamic and by making out they are.. the youth are being misled.

I think that is the gripe most people have with stuff like this.

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[Dukhan]

So people can't stop music together but if given the alternative which is a transition from one extreme downfall to a lesser downfall so what?


Isn't that good in the long run?


sister you cannot mix alcohol with water and think the alcohol has disappeared due to the water - it is still going to remain haraam

in the same way, u cannot mix that which is forbidden (e.g. musical instruments), with that which is good (i.e. dawah) and expect it to turn out righteous and saintly due to the 'mixing'.

if the base is incorrect, then no matter how many people are influenced, the base is still incorrect.

and that will inshallah all be accounted for on Yawm-ul-Qiyamah. generally speaking, we find many things touching, and beautiful, but then again many pop, garage, english, asian songs etc are touching, however they are forbidden and one of the reasons is due to the musical instruments. so if we do realise the reality behind such things (i.e. the necessity of ridding and refraining from musical nasheeds), it is better for us, so that we can fight our desires before we are completely overcome by shaytaan and his army. inshallah. as we too, are going to have to account for it on the day of judgement. and our excuse cannot, and will not possibly be, that 'it was needed since music is common in this day and age' as islam is a way of life, that was set down for the WHOLE OF MANKIND after Muhammad pbuh, therfore, the only solution is to abide by that which was revealed to Muhammad pbuh, and not 2 create such things e.g. nasheeds with music in them, for our own 'way of thinking' and desires that such things are necessary in the modern day, when Islam is modern enough already and prepared for us and our generations to come inshallah!!

as for harrods - i agree fully with sister chained_water :) al fayed, the manager of harrods, doesnt fully necessarily represent islam as an individual in society, he doesnt 'stand out' as a muslim, as much as sami yusuf, and other particular 'islamic artists'. therefore, the priority would be to get these 'islamic' role models as 100% what islam represents! (if that makes sense :s)

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams


OK will explain a bit later, bit busy somewhere else :S but InshaAllah will explain later and the thing with nasheeds is that the people who go on about nasheeds haraam etc, 97% of them listen to music themselves, i'm sorry but its a fact most people iterate to me. Esp BOlly cr@p they listen to, yet nasheeds they label haraam etc. You cant have both ways doesn't work that way.

Ahh Khalas i'll explain later
ciao

:salams

[*IslamicGirl*]

In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Kind<O:p</O:p

Assalamu Alaykum WA Rahmutallahi Wa Barakatuh<O:p</O:p
<O:p

Many people had a problem with ‘Qawali’ music and the sufi aspect and so on, but look how Islam increased cuz of that, many hippies and non hippies alike reverted, people got interested in the religion and so on. <O:p</O:p

When I listen to al Mu3aleem, I don’t feel like getting up to dance and so on, in fact the first time I heard it I cried. It was so emotional and it made me feel so ashamed. The words were powerful alone. Farshy Al Turab, another nasheed, when I heard it I could not stop thinking about death.<O:p</O:p


These reminders that these Nasheeds bring, is that so bad? IS the guy whose behind harrods not a Muslim, by being a Muslim it’s his duty to promote Islam.<O:p</O:p
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So a Hidjaab girl goes into a club, is the Hidjaab on her head not saying she is a Muslim? Just cuz she’s not ‘influential’ does not eman she does not have a duty. The beard and Hidjaab give Dawah, you get rewarded for it, but how many people wear it? The ones who don’t we don’t go banging on at them for sinning and they’re not following the Sunnah of Muhammad :saw: Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him. Teach the religion with gentleness.<O:p</O:p

The bombers who are killing Muslims are they Muslims? Not for us to judge but which Muslim kills another Muslim? When we are part of one body?<O:p</O:p

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The Nasheed issue is a small one compared to others but people find it the easiest one to grasp and it’s recently being established so they go on and on. <O:p</O:p

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Nasheeds are my alternative to all that hip-hop and rap. I still listen to saddening songs but now even Nasheed provide the alternative of sad songs and I listen to them. But why is there such a big fuss about playing the piano? I used to play the violin for 7+ years.. so what? These people who say music is haraam and so on, many listen to other music and some on weddings start dancing, it’s not just the arabs. <O:p</O:p

Then they come home and start raving on about music is haraam. People need to practise what they preach. We go in an uproar when we find someone has said bad things about the Quraan, yet Muslims will go and bomb a religious place… are there not Quraan there as well, do people not praise Allah and send Salaams to Muhammad :saw: Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him, the best of creation?<O:p</O:p

How many youths who were not religious must have heard a nasheed and feel themselves change as Allah has enabled the truth in their hearts? I know I was one of them youths..<O:p</O:p

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Assalamu Alaykum WA Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh<O:p></O:p>

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[Arsalan]

well as long as he stays away from headbanging then iam cool.

Allah guide him on path of right actions as he is influential on too many ppll.

The brother needs to be more responsible.

[Dukhan]

assalamu alaikum

sister *islamicgirl*, you more or less have slandered just about everyone who attempts at giving dawah in your post, and made out that those who attempt to give dawah are hypocrites and two-faced. na'auzubillah.

firstly, suspicion and slandering is a sin. so may Allah protect us from that. secondly, hypocrisy too is a MASSIVE sin. yes, some people might try to preach while they themselves take part in a certain issue.. that doesnt mean the majority is made out to be a 'disease' that it trying to prevent everyone from living life!!

at the end of the day brothers and sisters, we know that shaytaan vowed to misguide us. and this vow of his to Allah swt is clear and infront of our very eyes, when we are at home, on the street, studying, the wrk place, and so on. we need to look back at Islam at the time of the Prophet pbuh, and STICK by it. cling to it, like youve never clung to anything before, as that is your saviour, that is your guide, that should be your life. anything else, should be rejected, as may Allah protect us, it may be a trick and a ploy from Shaytaan to misguide us. and sometimes we so easily slip into his trap. so the best thing is, to KNOW about the actions u take part it, KNOW whether u are doing good, bad, or doubtful actions. if you are doing good actions, then subhanallah, and aim higher as this will be your paving for Jannat inshallah. if you are doing bad, then refrain and seek the protection of Allah, and seek His repentance. if we are doing that which is doubtful, REFRAIN from it, as doubtful matters could lead to sin, which will lead us to the HellFire if Allah swt does not protect us. may He Save us from this calamity.

so, we know that which goes on around the world, we know we need to seek and find out about any action we take part to protect ourselves frm sin, so now, the choice is ours. and if we choose to refrain and ignore that which is clear, then that is completely our fault, and may Allah save us, but the sad fact is, we will have to account for it.
:) walaikumussalam

[ur_yusra]

Yes indeed sami does use way too many instruments in his nasheeds. Hes from azerbaijan, never heard of the place personally but have they discovered something in regards to permissibility of instruments that we havent??? do let us know mr yusuf we are ever so curious. Meanwhile we should all focus on strengthening our own weaknesses inshaAllah. Also if u go on sami yusufs official site you will find he has lots of fans who are admirers of him, as in his physical appearance. Of course it is not a sin to be physically attracted to someone but please, arent we loosing the plot abit here. Too much fitnah and what about those nasheed concerts with whistling women as the 'stars' come on stage. Hmmm wonder if the prophet (sallallahu alayhi wasalam) would approve...

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams

Br/Sr Dukhan

Who have i slandered??

Get real.

NAme me the people who tried to help me which i have slandered?

:salams

[sajid]

this is a new era of nasheeds new dimension things sami yusuf and co coming out with..

[Dukhan]

Salaam sister :)


These people who say music is haraam and so on, many listen to other music and some on weddings start dancing, it’s not just the arabs. <O:p</O:p

Then they come home and start raving on about music is haraam. People need to practise what they preach.



agreed br/sister 'ur_yusra' :up: the fanclubs and the excessive adoration comes with 'the package'. sinful. yet so easy to slip into. may Allah protect us.

[*IslamicGirl*]

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I stated MANY not all.

I'm not referring to people on this thread, heck i don't know much about most of them or even their taste in 'music' but generally the people who i communicate with offline and yes some online.

OK some idiots go in2 extreme and start going after Br Sami Yusuf like some wacked out teeny boppers but that's not anyone else's fault except theirs.

:salams

[Ayah]

[QUOTE=muslim_sis]havent heard his new 'song' ... lol

hav u got a link to da song about his mother?
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http://www.samiyusuf.com/video/index.htm

Actually, I'm not very crazy about this new song. In all honesty, when I first started listening to it, it just sounded like the intro to an arabic song & not like a nasheed. Allahu aalam about the theory of "percussional instruments." However, I'd rather find the youth listening to anasheed with percussional instruments in the background instead of listening trashy music with foul language.

[rehanak]

assalamualykum. i read this link and found it very interesting ! agreeing and disagreeing on things. the main post that interested me is islamicgirl's thread. i would like to comment on it in my own way. i hop she takes no offence to it inshallah. you said:



[quote=*IslamicGirl*;657128]In the name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Most Kind<O:p</O:p

Assalamu Alaykum WA Rahmutallahi Wa Barakatuh<O:p</O:p
<O:p

Many people had a problem with ‘Qawali’ music and the sufi aspect and so on, but look how Islam increased cuz of that, many hippies and non hippies alike reverted, people got interested in the religion and so on. <O:p</O:p

When I listen to al Mu3aleem, I don’t feel like getting up to dance and so on, in fact the first time I heard it I cried. It was so emotional and it made me feel so ashamed. The words were powerful alone. Farshy Al Turab, another nasheed, when I heard it I could not stop thinking about death.<O:p</O:p


These reminders that these Nasheeds bring, is that so bad? IS the guy whose behind harrods not a Muslim, by being a Muslim it’s his duty to promote Islam.<O:p</O:p
<O:p
yes sister i agree with everything you said about when you hear almuallim you feel like crying and you feel the lyrics, i feel the same. but mind you you cannot have these feelings with songs like hasbi rabbi! even though the lyrics are also very powerful.the wisdome of not allowing nasheeds with instrument is that "some of the schoolers say that the sound on instruments is the voise of shaytan" do you think that people will start acting up when they hear a song like last breath by ahmad bukhatir? afcorse not. they will contemplate the words and that is what brings people to the real islam. because instruments in muslic doesn't allow you to contimplate it makes you act up! even when you hear "try not to cry" you start boping your head to the beat and it takes like 6 times to listen to it before you start understanding the lyrics. altimatly,the problem here is not nasheeds with sheer voices or even with daffs like those of almuallim and farshi at turab. the problem is with all sami yusuf's other songs which are full of instruments like those of the album "my ummah" and other songs like madina madina and outlandish etc...


you further continued saying:
So a Hidjaab girl goes into a club, is the Hidjaab on her head not saying she is a Muslim? Just cuz she’s not ‘influential’ does not eman she does not have a duty. The beard and Hidjaab give Dawah, you get rewarded for it, but how many people wear it? The ones who don’t we don’t go banging on at them for sinning and they’re not following the Sunnah of Muhammad :saw: Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him. Teach the religion with gentleness.<O:p</O:p
sister, a hijab girl shouldn't be in a club to begin with. if i was a member of a club (la samahallah) and i saw a girl with hijab on i will tell her to get out! like suhaib web. when he was a Muslim in the club dejaing and he saw a muslim he would chase them out! or so he said. thats not being harsh because it's not like it would drive her from Islam! she's in a club for crying out loud:rubeyes:! either your a Muslim or not. and yes it might be an alternative to listen to music with Islamic words in it but at the end of the day, she is still there at the club!
what i mean is..when you give people condenced islam they become a condenced Islamic type of people ie. socalled muslim. they change their dressing and a couple farces in their speech but ultimately they are the same so called muslim who believes that they are the best people in the world. a true muslim is not so!


anyway.. continuing on what you said:


Nasheeds are my alternative to all that hip-hop and rap. I still listen to saddening songs but now even Nasheed provide the alternative of sad songs and I listen to them. But why is there such a big fuss about playing the piano? I used to play the violin for 7+ years.. so what? These people who say music is haraam and so on, many listen to other music and some on weddings start dancing, it’s not just the arabs. <O:p</O:p

Then they come home and start raving on about music is haraam. People need to practise what they preach. We go in an uproar when we find someone has said bad things about the Quraan, yet Muslims will go and bomb a religious place… are there not Quraan there as well, do people not praise Allah and send Salaams to Muhammad :saw: Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him, the best of creation?<O:p</O:psis, if you played the violen for 7 years it doesn't mean that it becomes halal! as for people who say that music is harm and the go to weddings and start dancing and so on.. dancing to music in weddings is one thing..however the fact remains that the prophet peace be upon him said: "there will come a people who will make intoxicants, silk, and instruments halal" in another hadith "la yastahillannakum an tazifu ala almazif" "it is not allowed for you to play instruments."

How many youths who were not religious must have heard a nasheed and feel themselves change as Allah has enabled the truth in their hearts? I know I was one of them youths..<O:p</O:p
i guess the whole summery is that the issue here is not the nasheeds it is the songs which are islamafied, in other words made Islamic.

anyways, this is a very interesting topic and all i said (with the exeption of the 2 hadiths) was basically my oppinion vs. your oppinion and i hop you don't look at it in any other way.:inlove:
nice topic! keep it up~!

Assalamu Alaykum WA Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh
your sister in islam
rehana

[rehanak]

assalamualykum
sory, i forgot to say one more thing
i think brother sami is one of the most humble and greatly mannered people. i really admire him but i have a problem with him music. that's it.
he is now studying fro my information. you never know we may see some more songs like almuallim coming up!

[sis_niqabi]

salam

pretty soon you'll be able to buy sami yusef's latest hits at virgin mega store(or are they there already?). and see his videos on MTV. his music is getting out of control

[Abandoned-Mind]

salam

pretty soon you'll be able to buy sami yusef's latest hits at virgin mega store(or are they there already?). and see his videos on MTV. his music is getting out of control

He isn't that 'good'.

[x_Pari_x]

man i neva approved of this sami yusuf guy..his so called nasheeds had toooooooo much music in em..he tried to justify the music by sayin that percussion instruments are allowed! well i dotn think thats true......as for his latest song not nasheed...its about his mother and its like a bollywood song mixed in wiv a bit of madonna, robbie williams..and th other popstars! so much music!.....u know the man has a nice voice maashallah if he used it for quranic recitation..it would ave been beautiful..but im rally disappointed that hes creating so called nasheeds like this. i mean the porphet did make it clear that music is not allowed and only the duff is allowed....to differentiate a wedding from a funeral and for the callin of jihad! hes so obviously used the piano in this next song about mother......wot do u lot think?

nope i havent heard the song either................but i find his "naatz" carming!!!!!!!! and his voice is jus wicked :up::up::up::lailah:

[Medievalist]

These people are innovators. There is no halt to their devilish music.

[Nazias]

O you who believe! Avoid much suspicion, in deeds some suspicions are sins. And spy not neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear God, verily, God is the one who accepts repentance, Most Merciful. (49:12)

[Medievalist]

It is permitted to label people innovator, deviant to make clear to the public the evil in said people. This is amongst the rights of the muslim masses.