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AbuMusaab
26-05-05, 08:22 PM
Some say music is haram...others say it is fine.
Do you listen to music?
The votes are private, so have no fear, you sinners.:D
Mr_Jailer
26-05-05, 08:24 PM
How 'bout 'yes, but i don't love music'?
ABDELWAHHAB
26-05-05, 09:06 PM
I voted for the NO option in the poll because Alhamdulillaah wa ma'shaa'ALLAH I do not listen to music at all because listening to music is haraam and listening to music is a waste of life.
I voted Yes as I listen to music regularly and enjoy it a lot. I am trying to cut down on how much music I listen to now though. Inshallah I will succeed :)
slmz :)
27-05-05, 05:19 AM
yeah i listen to music.... but i dont luv it...
u no that nasheeds are music also?
ABDELWAHHAB
27-05-05, 07:30 AM
Why is music haraam?
In'shaa'ALLAH read the thread titled "music haraam references please?" made by Ukhtee Janathi. In this thread is proof that music is haraam.
http://www.ummah.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57377&page=1&pp=20
http://www.ummah.net/forum/showpost.php?p=632882&postcount=2
In'shaa'ALLAH read the following Fatawa on the Ruling on music, singing and dancing . In this Fatawa is proof that music, singing and dancing is haraam.
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=5000&dgn=4
Question #5000: Ruling on music, singing and dancing
Question :
I have always heard that music, singing and dancing are haram in Islam. I went to this other site for the first time,XXX, and typed in music and all of these articles appeared which said music,dancing, and singing in Islam is halal??? They said "as long as the 2 sexes are not close together and their is no drinking going on" etc. and they even have hadiths that try to prove our Prophet Muhammed s.a.w was ok with this??? I am very confused now... Could you PLEASE give a full, detailed explanation about the Islamic ruling on music, singing and dancing and when it is allowed, if it is even allowed at all.
Answer :
Praise be to Allaah.
Ma’aazif is the plural of mi’zafah, and refers to musical instruments (Fath al-Baari, 10/55), instruments which are played (al-Majmoo’, 11/577). Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) narrated from al-Jawhari (may Allaah have mercy on him) that ma’aazif means singing. In his Sihaah it says that it means musical instruments. It was also said that it refers to the sound of the instruments. In al-Hawaashi by al-Dimyaati (may Allaah have mercy on him) it says: ma’aazif means drums (dufoof, sing. daff) and other instruments which are struck or beaten (Fath al-Baari, 10/55).
Evidence of prohibition in the Qur’aan and Sunnah:
Allaah says in Soorat Luqmaan (interpretation of the meaning):
“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…” [Luqmaan 31:6]
The scholar of the ummah, Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: this means singing. Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafseer al-Tabari, 21/40).
Al-Hasan al-Basri (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this aayah was revealed concerning singing and musical instruments (lit. woodwind instruments). (Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 3/451).
Al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this includes all manner of haraam speech, all idle talk and falsehood, and all nonsense that encourages kufr and disobedience; the words of those who say things to refute the truth and argue in support of falsehood to defeat the truth; and backbiting, slander, lies, insults and curses; the singing and musical instruments of the Shaytaan; and musical instruments which are of no spiritual or worldly benefit. (Tafseer al-Sa’di, 6/150)
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The interpretation of the Sahaabah and Taabi’in, that ‘idle talk’ refers to singing, is sufficient. This was reported with saheeh isnaads from Ibn ‘Abbaas and Ibn Mas’ood. Abu’l-Sahbaa’ said: I asked Ibn Mas’ood about the aayah (interpretation of the meaning), ‘“And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks’ [Luqmaan 31:6]. He said: By Allaah, besides Whom there is no other god, this means singing – and he repeated it three times. It was also reported with a saheeh isnaad from Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that this means singing. There is no contradiction between the interpretation of “idle talk” as meaning singing and the interpretation of it as meaning stories of the Persians and their kings, and the kings of the Romans, and so on, such as al-Nadr ibn al-Haarith used to tell to the people of Makkah to distract them from the Qur’aan. Both of them are idle talk. Hence Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “Idle talk” is falsehood and singing. Some of the Sahaabah said one and some said the other, and some said both. Singing is worse and more harmful than stories of kings, because it leads to zinaa and makes hypocrisy grow (in the heart); it is the trap of the Shaytaan, and it clouds the mind. The way in which it blocks people from the Qur’aan is worse than the way in which other kinds of false talk block them, because people are naturally inclined towards it and tend to want to listen to it. The aayaat condemn replacing the Qur’aan with idle talk in order to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah without knowledge and taking it as a joke, because when an aayah of the Qur’aan is recited to such a person, he turns his back as if he heard them not, as if there were deafness in his ear. If he hears anything of it, he makes fun of it. All of this happens only in the case of the people who are most stubbornly kaafirs and if some of it happens to singers and those who listen to them, they both have a share of this blame. (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan, 1/258-259).
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“[Allaah said to Iblees:] And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice (i.e. songs, music, and any other call for Allaah’s disobedience)…” [al-Israa’ 17:64]
It was narrated that Mujaahid (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “And befool them gradually those whom you can among them with your voice” – his voice [the voice of Iblees/Shaytaan] is singing and falsehood. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This idaafah [possessive or genitive construction, i.e., your voice] serves to make the meaning specific, as with the phrases [translated as] “your cavalry” and “your infantry” [later in the same aayah]. Everyone who speaks in any way that is not obedient to Allaah, everyone who blows into a flute or other woodwind instrument, or who plays any haraam kind of drum, this is the voice of the Shaytaan. Everyone who walks to commit some act of disobedience towards Allaah is part of his [the Shaytaan’s] infantry, and anyone who rides to commit sin is part of his cavalry. This is the view of the Salaf, as Ibn ‘Abi Haatim narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas: his infantry is everyone who walks to disobey Allaah. (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan).
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Do you then wonder at this recitation (the Qur’aan)?
And you laugh at it and weep not,
Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)”
[al-Najm 53:59-61]
‘Ikrimah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: it was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas that al-sumood [verbal noun from saamidoon, translated here as “Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)”] means “singing”, in the dialect of Himyar; it might be said “Ismidi lanaa” [‘sing for us’ – from the same root as saamidoon/sumood] meaning “ghaniy” [sing]. And he said (may Allaah have mercy on him): When they [the kuffaar] heard the Qur’aan, they would sing, then this aayah was revealed.
Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning) “Wasting your (precious) lifetime in pastime and amusements (singing)” – Sufyaan al-Thawri said, narrating from his father from Ibn ‘Abbaas: (this means) singing. This is Yemeni (dialect): ismad lana means ghan lana [sing to us]. This was also the view of ‘Ikrimah. (Tafseer Ibn Katheer).
It was reported from Abu Umaamah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not sell singing slave women, do not buy them and do not teach them. There is nothing good in this trade, and their price is haraam. Concerning such things as this the aayah was revealed (interpretation of the meaning): ‘And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allaah…’ [Luqmaan 31:6].” (Hasan hadeeth)
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91).
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This is a saheeh hadeeth narrated by al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh, where he quoted it as evidence and stated that it is mu’allaq and majzoom. He said: Chapter on what was narrated concerning those who permit alcohol and call it by another name.
This hadeeth indicates in two ways that musical instruments and enjoyment of listening to music are haraam. The first is the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “[they] permit” which clearly indicates that the things mentioned, including musical instruments, are haraam according to sharee’ah, but those people will permit them. The second is the fact that musical instruments are mentioned alongside things which are definitely known to be haraam, i.e., zinaa and alcohol: if they (musical instruments) were not haraam, why would they be mentioned alongside these things? (adapted from al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 1/140-141)
Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This hadeeth indicates that ma’aazif are haraam, and ma’aazif means musical instruments according to the scholars of (Arabic) language. This word includes all such instruments. (al-Majmoo’, 11/535).
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: And concerning the same topic similar comments were narrated from Sahl ibn Sa’d al-Saa’idi, ‘Imraan ibn Husayn, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas, Abu Hurayrah, Abu Umaamah al-Baahili, ‘Aa’ishah Umm al-Mu’mineen, ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib, Anas ibn Maalik, ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Saabit and al-Ghaazi ibn Rabee’ah. Then he mentioned it in Ighaathat al-Lahfaan, and it indicates that they (musical instruments) are haraam.
It was narrated that Naafi’ (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Ibn ‘Umar heard a woodwind instrument, and he put his fingers in his ears and kept away from that path. He said to me, O Naafi’, can you hear anything? I said, No. So he took his fingers away from his ears and said: I was with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he heard something like this, and he did the same thing. (Saheeh Abi Dawood). Some insignificant person said that this hadeeth does not prove that musical instruments are haraam, because if that were so, the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would have instructed Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) to put his fingers in his ears as well, and Ibn ‘Umar would have instructed Naafi’ to do likewise! The response to this is: He was not listening to it, but he could hear it. There is a difference between listening and hearing. Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Concerning (music) which a person does not intend to listen to, there is no prohibition or blame, according to scholarly consensus. Hence blame or praise is connected to listening, not to hearing. The one who listens to the Qur’aan will be rewarded for it, whereas the one who hears it without intending or wanting to will not be rewarded for that, because actions are judged by intentions. The same applies to musical instruments which are forbidden: if a person hears them without intending to, that does not matter. (al-Majmoo’, 10/78).
Ibn Qudaamah al-Maqdisi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: the listener is the one who intends to hear, which was not the case with Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both); what happened in his case was hearing. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) needed to know when the sound stopped because he had moved away from that path and blocked his ears. So he did not want to go back to that path or unblock his ears until the noise had stopped, so when he allowed Ibn ‘Umar to continue hearing it, this was because of necessity. (al-Mughni, 10/173)
(Even though the hearing referred to in the comments of the two imaams is makrooh, it was permitted because of necessity, as we will see below in the comments of Imaam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him). And Allaah knows best).
The views of the scholars (imaams) of Islam
Al-Qaasim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Singing is part of falsehood. Al-Hasan (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: if there is music involved in a dinner invitation (waleemah), do not accept the invitation (al-Jaami by al-Qayrawaani, p. 262-263).
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The view of the four Imaams is that all kinds of musical instruments are haraam. It was reported in Saheeh al-Bukhaari and elsewhere that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that there would be among his ummah those who would allow zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments, and he said that they would be transformed into monkeys and pigs… None of the followers of the imaams mentioned any dispute concerning the matter of music. (al-Majmoo’, 11/576).
Al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The four madhhabs are agreed that all musical instruments are haraam. (al-Saheehah, 1/145).
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The madhhab of Abu Haneefah is the strictest in this regard, and his comments are among the harshest. His companions clearly stated that it is haraam to listen to all musical instruments such as the flute and the drum, even tapping a stick. They stated that it is a sin which implies that a person is a faasiq (rebellious evil doer) whose testimony should be rejected. They went further than that and said that listening to music is fisq (rebellion, evildoing) and enjoying it is kufr (disbelief). This is their words. They narrated in support of that a hadeeth which could not be attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). They said: he should try not to hear it if he passes by it or it is in his vicinity. Abu Yoosuf said, concerning a house from which could be heard the sound of musical instruments: Go in without their permission, because forbidding evil actions is obligatory, and if it were not allowed to enter without permission, people could not have fulfilled the obligatory duty (of enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil). (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan, 1/425).
Imaam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about playing the drum or flute, if a person happens to hear the sound and enjoy it whilst he is walking or sitting. He said: He should get up if he finds that he enjoys it, unless he is sitting down for a need or is unable to get up. If he is on the road, he should either go back or move on. (al-Jaami’ by al-Qayrawaani, 262). He (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The only people who do things like that, in our view, are faasiqs.” (Tafseer al-Qurtubi, 14/55).
Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Among the types of earnings which are haraam by scholarly consensus are ribaa, the fee of a prostitute, anything forbidden, bribes, payment for wailing over the dead and singing, payments to fortune-tellers and those who claim to know the unseen and astrologers, payments for playing flutes, and all kinds of gambling. (al-Kaafi).
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, explaining the view of Imaam al-Shaafa'i: His companions who know his madhhab (point of view) stated that it is haraam and denounced those who said that he permitted it. (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan, 1/425).
The author of Kifaayat al-Akhbaar, who was one of the Shaafa’is, counted musical instruments such as flutes and others, as being munkar (evil), and the one who is present (where they are being played) should denounce them. (He cannot be excused by the fact that there are bad scholars, because they are corrupting the sharee’ah, or evil faqeers – meaning the Sufis, because they call themselves fuqaraa’ or faqeers – because they are ignorant and follow anyone who makes noise; they are not guided by the light of knowledge; rather they are blown about by every wind. (Kifaayat al-Akhbaar, 2/128).
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: With regard to the view of Imaam Ahmad, his son ‘Abd-Allaah said: I asked my father about singing. He said: Singing makes hypocrisy grow in the heart; I do not like it. Then he mentioned the words of Maalik: the evildoers (faasiqs) among us do that. (Ighaathat al-Lahfaan).
Ibn Qudaamah, the researcher of the Hanbali madhhab – (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Musical instruments are of three types which are haraam. These are the strings and all kinds of flute, and the lute, drum and rabaab (stringed instrument) and so on. Whoever persists in listening to them, his testimony should be rejected. (al-Mughni, 10/173). And he said (may Allaah have mercy on him); If a person is invited to a gathering in which there is something objectionable, such as wine and musical instruments, and he is able to denounce it, then he should attend and speak out against it, because then he will be combining two obligatory duties. If he is not able to do that, then he should not attend. (al-Kaafi, 3/118)
Al-Tabari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The scholars of all regions are agreed that singing is makrooh and should be prevented. Although Ibraaheem
ABDELWAHHAB
27-05-05, 07:31 AM
Al-Tabari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The scholars of all regions are agreed that singing is makrooh and should be prevented. Although Ibraaheem ibn Sa’d and ‘Ubayd-Allaah al-‘Anbari differed from the majority, (it should be noted that) the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Adhere to the majority.” And whoever dies differing from the majority, dies as a jaahili. (Tafseer al-Qurtubi, 14/56). In earlier generations, the word “makrooh” was used to mean haraam, then it took on the meaning of “disliked”. But this is to be understood as meaning that it is forbidden, because he [al-Tabari] said “it should be prevented”, and nothing is to be prevented except that which is haraam; and because in the two hadeeths quoted, music is denounced in the strongest terms. Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) is the one who narrated this report, then he said: Abu’l-Faraj and al-Qaffaal among our companions said: the testimony of the singer and the dancer is not to be accepted. I say: if it is proven that this matter is not permissible, then accepting payment for it is not permissible either.
Shaykh al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) said: What Ibraaheem ibn Sa’d and ‘Ubayd-Allaah al-‘Anbari said about singing is not like the kind of singing that is known nowadays, for they would never have allowed this kind of singing which is the utmost in immorality and obscenity. (al-I’laam)
Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: It is not permissible to make musical instruments. (al-Majmoo’, 22/140). And he said: According to the majority of fuqahaa’, it is permissible to destroy musical instruments, such as the tanboor [a stringed instrument similar to a mandolin]. This is the view of Maalik and is the more famous of the two views narrated from Ahmad. (al-Majmoo’, 28/113). And he said: …Ibn al-Mundhir mentioned that the scholars were agreed that it is not permissible to pay people to sing and wail… the consensus of all the scholars whose views we have learned about is that wailing and singing are not allowed. Al-Shu’bi, al-Nakha’i and Maalik regarded that as makrooh [i.e., haraam]. Abu Thawr, al-Nu’maan – Abu Haneefah (may Allaah have mercy on him) – and Ya’qoob and Muhammad, two of the students of Abu Haneefah said: it is not permissible to pay anything for singing and wailing. This is our view. And he said: musical instruments are the wine of the soul, and what it does to the soul is worse than what intoxicating drinks do. (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 10/417).
Ibn Abi Shaybah (may Allaah have mercy on him) reported that a man broke a mandolin belonging to another man, and the latter took his case to Shurayh. But Shurayh did not award him any compensation – i.e., he did not make the first man pay the cost of the mandolin, because it was haraam and had no value. (al-Musannaf, 5/395).
Al-Baghawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) stated in a fatwa that it is haraam to sell all kinds of musical instruments such as mandolins, flutes, etc. Then he said: If the images are erased and the musical instruments are altered, then it is permissible to sell their parts, whether they are silver, iron, wood or whatever. (Sharh al-Sunnah, 8/28)
An appropriate exception
The exception to the above is the daff – without any rings (i.e., a hand-drum which looks like a tambourine, but without any rattles) – when used by women on Eids and at weddings. This is indicated by saheeh reports. Shaykh al-Islam (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: But the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made allowances for certain types of musical instruments at weddings and the like, and he made allowances for women to play the daff at weddings and on other joyful occasions. But the men at his time did not play the daff or clap with their hands. It was narrated in al-Saheeh that he said: “Clapping is for women and tasbeeh (saying Subhaan Allaah) is for men.” And he cursed women who imitate men and men who imitate women. Because singing and playing the daff are things that women do, the Salaf used to call any man who did that a mukhannath (effeminate man), and they used to call male singers effeminate – and how many of them there are nowadays! It is well known that the Salaf said this.
In a similar vein is the hadeeth of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), when her father (may Allaah be pleased with him) entered upon her at the time of Eid, and there were two young girls with her who were singing the verses that the Ansaar had said on the day of Bu’aath – and any sensible person will know what people say about war. Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Musical instruments of the Shaytaan in the house of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)!” The Messenger of Allaah had turned away from them and was facing the wall – hence some scholars said that Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) would not tell anybody off in front of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), but he thought that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not paying attention to what was happening. And Allaah knows best. He (the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) said: “Leave them alone, O Abu Bakr, for every nation has its Eid, and this is our Eid, the people of Islam.” This hadeeth shows that it was not the habit of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his companions to gather to listen to singing, hence Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq called it “the musical instruments of the Shaytaan”. And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) approved of this appellation and did not deny it when he said, “Leave them alone, for every nation has its Eid and this is our Eid.” This indicates that the reason why this was permitted was because it was the time of Eid, and the prohibition remained in effect at times other than Eid, apart from the exceptions made for weddings in other ahaadeeth. Shaykh al-Albaani explained this in his valuable book Tahreem Aalaat al-Tarab (the Prohibition of Musical Instruments). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) approved of young girls singing at Eid, as stated in the hadeeth: “So that the mushrikeen will know that in our religion there is room for relaxation.” There is no indication in the hadeeth about the two young girls that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was listening to them. The commands and prohibitions have to do with listening, not merely hearing, just as in the case of seeing, the rules have to do with intentionally looking and not what happens by accident. So it is clear that this is for women only. Imaam Abu ‘Ubayd (may Allaah have mercy on him) defined the daff as “that which is played by women.” (Ghareeb al-Hadeeth, 3/64).
An inappropriate exception
Some of them make an exception for drums at times of war, and consequentially some modern scholars have said that military music is allowed. But there is no basis for this at all, for a number of reasons, the first of which is that this is making an exception with no clear evidence, apart from mere opinion and thinking that it is good, and this is wrong. The second reason is that what the Muslims should do at times of war is to turn their hearts towards their Lord. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“They ask you (O Muhammad) about the spoils of war. Say: ‘The spoils are for Allaah and the Messenger.’ So fear Allaah and adjust all matters of difference among you…” [al-Anfaal 8:1]. But using music is the opposite of this idea of taqwa and it would distract them from remembering their Lord. Thirdly, using music is one of the customs of the kuffaar, and it is not permitted to imitate them, especially with regard to something that Allaah has forbidden to us in general, such as music. (al-Saheehah, 1/145)
“No people go astray after having been guided except they developed arguments amongst themselves.” (Saheeh)
Some of them used the hadeeth about the Abyssinians playing in the mosque of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) as evidence that singing is allowed! Al-Bukhaari included this hadeeth in his Saheeh under the heading Baab al-Hiraab wa’l-Daraq Yawm al-‘Eid (Chapter on Spears and Shields on the Day of Eid). Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This indicates that it is permissible to play with weapons and the like in the mosque, and he applied that to other activities connected with jihaad. (Sharh Muslim). But as al-Haafiz ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: whoever speaks about something which is not his profession will come up with weird ideas such as these.
Some of them use as evidence the hadeeth about the singing of the two young girls, which we have discussed above, but we will quote what Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, because it is valuable:
I am amazed that you quote as evidence for allowing listening to sophisticated songs the report which we mentioned about how two young girls who were below the age of puberty sang to a young woman on the day of Eid some verses of Arab poetry about bravery in war and other noble characteristics. How can you compare this to that? What is strange is that this hadeeth is one of the strongest proofs against them. The greatest speaker of the truth [Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq] called them musical instruments of the Shaytaan, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) approved of that appellation, but he made an exception in the case of these two young girls who had not yet reached the age of responsibility and the words of whose songs could not corrupt anyone who listened to them. Can this be used as evidence to allow what you do and what you know of listening (to music) which includes (bad) things which are not hidden?! Subhaan Allaah! How people can be led astray! (Madaarij al-Saalikeen, 1/493).
Ibn al-Jawzi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) was young at that time; nothing was transmitted from her after she reached the age of puberty except condemnation of singing. Her brother’s son, al-Qaasim ibn Muhammad, condemned singing and said that it was not allowed to listen to it, and he took his knowledge from her. (Talbees Iblees, 229). Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: A group of the Sufis used this hadeeth – the hadeeth about the two young girls – as evidence that singing is allowed and it is allowed to listen to it, whether it is accompanied by instruments or not. This view is sufficiently refuted by the clear statement of ‘Aa’ishah in the following hadeeth, where she says, “They were not singers.” She made it clear that they were not singers as such, although this may be understood from the wording of the report. So we should limit it to what was narrated in the text as regards the occasion and the manner, so as to reduce the risk of going against the principle, i.e., the hadeeth. And Allaah knows best. (Fath al-Baari, 2/442-443).
Some people even have the nerve to suggest that the Sahaabah and Taabi’een listened to singing, and that they saw nothing wrong with it!
Al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) said: We demand them to show us saheeh isnaads going back to these Sahaabah and Taabi’een, proving what they attribute to them. Then he said: Imaam Muslim mentioned in his introduction to his Saheeh that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn al-Mubaarak said: The isnaad is part of religion. Were it not for the isnaad, whoever wanted to could say whatever he wanted to.
Some of them said that the ahaadeeth which forbid music are full of faults. No hadeeth was free of being criticized by some of the scholars. Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The ahaadeeth which were narrated concerning music being haraam are not full of faults as has been claimed. Some of them are in Saheeh al-Bukhaari which is the soundest of books after the Book of Allaah, and some of them are hasan and some are da’eef. But because they are so many, with different isnaads, they constitute definitive proof that singing and musical instruments are haraam.
All the imaams agreed on the soundness of the ahaadeeth which forbid singing and musical instruments, apart from Abu Haamid al-Ghazzaali, but al-Ghazzaali did not have knowledge of hadeeth; and Ibn Hazam, but al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) explained where Ibn Hazam went wrong, and Ibn Hazam himself said that if any of (these ahaadeeth) were saheeh, he would follow that. But now they have proof that these reports are saheeh because there are so many books by the scholars which state that these ahaadeeth are saheeh, but they turn their backs on that. They are far more extreme than Ibn Hazam and they are nothing like him, for they are not qualified and cannot be referred to.
Some of them said that the scholars forbade singing because it is mentioned alongside gatherings in which alcohol is drunk and where people stay up late at night for evil purposes.
Al-Shawkaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The response to this is that mentioning these things in conjunction does not only mean that what is haraam is what is joined together in this manner. Otherwise this would mean that zinaa, as mentioned in the ahaadeeth, is not haraam unless it is accompanied by alcohol and the use of musical instruments. By the same token, an aayah such as the following (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, he used not to believe in Allaah, the Most Great,
And urged not on the feeding of Al-Miskeen (the poor).”
[al-Haaqqah 69:33-34]
would imply that it is not haraam to disbelieve in Allaah unless that is accompanied by not encouraging the feeding of the poor. If it is said that the prohibition of such things one at a time is proven from other reports, the response to that is that the prohibition of musical instruments is also known from other evidence, as mentioned above. (Nayl al-Awtaar, 8/107).
Some of them said that “idle talk” does not refer to singing; the refutation of that has been mentioned above. Al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: This – the view that it means singing – is the best that has been said concerning this aayah, and Ibn Mas’ood swore three times by Allaah besides Whom there is no other god, that it does refer to singing. Then he mentioned other imaams who said the same thing. Then he mentioned other views concerning the matter. Then he said: The first view is the best of all that has been said on this matter, because of the marfoo’ hadeeth, and because of the view of the Sahaabah and the Taabi’een. (Tafseer al-Qurtubi).
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him), after quoting this Tafseer, said: Al-Haakim Abu ‘Abd-Allaah said in the Tafseer of Kitaab al-Mustadrak: Let the one who is seeking this knowledge know that the Tafseer of a Sahaabi who witnessed the revelation is a hadeeth with isnaad according to the two Shaykhs (al-Bukhaari and Muslim). Elsewhere in his book, he said: In our view this hadeeth has the same strength as a marfoo’ report. Although their tafseer is still subject to further examination, it is still more readily acceptable than the tafseer of those who came after them, because they are the most knowledgeable among this ummah of what Allaah meant in his Book. It was revealed among them and they were the first people to be addressed by it. They heard the tafseer from the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in word and in deed. And they were Arabs who understood the true meanings of (Arabic) words, so Muslims should avoid resorting to any other interpretation as much as possible.
Some of them said that singing is a form of worship if the intention is for it to help one to obey Allaah!
Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: How strange! What type of faith, light, insight, guidance and knowledge can be gained from listening to tuneful verses and music in which most of what is said is haraam and deserves the wrath and punishment of Allaah and His Messenger? … How can anyone who has the least amount of insight and faith in his heart draw near to Allaah and increase his faith by enjoying something which is hated by Him, and He detests the one who says it and the one who accepts it? (Madaarij al-Saalikeen, 1/485)
Shaykh al-Islam said, discussing the state of the person who has gotten used to listening to singing: Hence you find that those who have gotten used to it and for whom it is like food and drink will never have the desire to listen to the Qur’aan or feel joy when they hear it, and they never find in listening to its verses the same feeling that they find when listening to poetry. Indeed, if they hear the Qur’aan, they hear it with an inattentive heart and talk whilst it is being recited, but if they hear whistling and clapping of hands, they lower their voices and keep still, and pay attention. (Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 11/557 ff)
Some say that music and musical instruments have the effect of softening people’s hearts and creating gentle feelings. This is not true, because it provokes physical desires and whims. If it really did what they say, it would have softened the hearts of the musicians and made their attitude and behaviour better, but most of them, as we know, are astray and behave badly.
Conclusion
Perhaps – for fair-minded and objective readers – this summary will make it clear that the view that music is permissible has no firm basis. There are no two views on this matter. So we must advise in the best manner, and then take it step by step and denounce music, if we are able to do so. We should not be deceived by the fame of a man in our own times in which the people who are truly committed to Islam have become strangers. The one who says that singing and musical instruments are permitted is simply supporting the whims of people nowadays, as if the masses were issuing fatwas and he is simply signing them! If a matter arises, they will look at the views of fuqahaa’ on this matter, then they will take the easiest view, as they claim. Then they will look for evidence, or just specious arguments which are worth no more than a lump of dead meat. How often have these people approved things in the name of sharee’ah which in fact have nothing to do with Islam!
Strive to learn your Islam from the Book of your Lord and the Sunnah of your Prophet. Do not say, So-and-so said, for you cannot learn the truth only from men. Learn the truth and then measure people against it. This should be enough for the one who controls his whims and submits himself to his Lord. May what we have written above heal the hearts of the believers and dispel the whispers in the hearts of those who are stricken with insinuating whispers. May it expose everyone who is deviating from the path of Revelation and taking the easiest options, thinking that he has come up with something which none of the earlier generations ever achieved, and speaking about Allaah without knowledge. They sought to avoid fisq (evildoing) and ended up committing bid’ah – may Allaah not bless them in it. It would have been better for them to follow the path of the believers.
And Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless and grant peace to His Messenger who made clear the path of the believers, and to his companions and those who follow them in truth until the Day of Judgement.
Summary of a paper entitled al-Darb bi’l-Nawa li man abaaha al-Ma’aazif li’l-Hawa by Shaykh Sa’d al-Deen ibn Muhammad al-Kibbi.
For more information, please see:
Al-I’laam bi Naqd Kitaab al-Halaal wa’l-Haraam, by Shaykh al-‘Allaamah Saalih ibn Fawzaan al-Fawzaan
Al-Samaa’ by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn al-Qayyim
Tahreem Aalaat al-Tarab, by Shaykh Muhammad Naasir al-Deen al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him)
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As-Salafee
27-05-05, 08:19 AM
Salaam alaykum wa rehmatullahi wa barakatuh,
I stopped llistening to music a very long time ago, Alhumdulilah. Yes it is haram as the evidences akhi AbdelWahab posted.
Those who do listen to music should not 'smile' over it. You should not boast about your sins or declare them with happiness, rather weep over them because they are the 'currency' which will work against you on the day of judgement or even drag you to the pits of the hell fire. A sin is something against the Commandment of Allah (swt). You should know these implications and fear Allah and weep over your sins and take the necessary steps to avoid them at all times and ask for forgiveness, verily Allah is Al-Ghafour (The Forgiving).
For those who truly fear Allah, it would be easy for them to leave music for the sake of Allah. And remember, this is only for your own good.
Wa alaykum as salam wa rehmatullahi wa barakatuh
Thank you ABDELWAHAB for the reply.
Yeah, music is very much needed part of life, it helps set the mood according to the situation at hand, it is motivation, joy and anger, it feeds the emotions at need.
Mustafa83
27-05-05, 11:32 PM
i take it haram means a sin if so im gonna be in trouble i listen to alot of music before and also looked at bad stuff too :rubeyes:
As-Salafee
28-05-05, 07:45 AM
Salaam alaykum,
Akhi you should not announce your sins like that in public. Keep it private.
wa alaykum as salam.
Semantic
01-06-05, 01:51 AM
I listen to music. Mainly non-instrumental - nasheeds, acapella etc.
I believe Ibn Ajibah sums the matter up best:
"This issue [of musical instruments] is one of [much] disagreement
as no clear primary text has come from the Legislator - and all
affairs are mubah by default until a [clear] prohibition is found. And
[the fact of the matter is that] listening to musical instruments was
not declared unlawful until the idle [wrong-doing] folk took it up
and linked it with drinking wine and fornicating...
[It has been narrated that] a scholar (who condoned [certain] musical
instruments) in the presence of Caliph Harun Rashid said, 'I
attended a wedding feast in Madinah in which the scholars attended.
[There were so many singers at this wedding] that if the house were
to collapse, no singer would remain in Madinah. And the smallest
of the [condoning] scholars present was Imam Malik ibn Anas. So,
they sang [and a man] had a mizhar [i.e. a musical instrument (probably
a tambourine)]; so, they sang [with it] and uttered nasheeds."
The popular position within the Maliki madhab is one of haram when instruments are used, but rukhsa's may be taken.
Thus there are valid rukhsa's in the madhab permitting the listening of music for the lay person as its base predicate is halal until proven haram and due to it's more stringent requirements on utilisation of ahad hadith.
The above fatwa of course use a different usul.
I believe its haraam but sadly i will listen to it :(
*islamia
11-06-05, 03:57 PM
music is haram and happily i dont listen to it!
allahu akbar music brings hiprocosy to the heart, may Allah forgive u all ameen
Mystique
13-06-05, 12:42 PM
This is quite shocking...not how many people listen to music, that is between them and the creator but the fact people just dash our their sins as if it were a piece of paper. Surely one's sin should be kept between them and the creator for verily then your sin can be forgiven if your intentions are sincere...Allahu'3llim. There is the famous story of how a woman comitted a big sin and went to one of the prophet (pbuh) and told him of the sin and asked if Allah (swt) will forgive her and the prophet (pbuh) said yes. She was confused and shocked, so she kept telling her sin to others and saying how was it possible that she'd be forgiven etc. She then returned to the prophet (pbuh) and asked if her sin would be forgiven and that if she would go to heaven but he replied no this time simlpy because she told so many people about her sin. Let this be a reminder and a warning to the believing men/women.
p.s-I can't remember which prophet
*islamia
13-06-05, 02:18 PM
yes thanks for sharing that sister
Al-Nasser
13-06-05, 03:15 PM
i want to ask about something...
th prophet :saw: said about the Muslim leader who will conquer Constantinople
The best of the commanders is he who will consquer contantinople, blessed is he and his army.
this hadith is speaking about super Muslims....who are Muhammad Al Fateh and his Mujahid army who conquered Constantinople in 1453.....the prophet :saw: say that they are blessed!
but what do you say about this.....Muhammad Al Fateh and his army entered Constantinople accompanied by military music!!!.....yes!!.....Sultan Al Fateh who fulfilled the prophecy of the prophet :saw: used military music to encourage his soldiers....ooops!!
*islamia
13-06-05, 05:21 PM
listen brother the music they were referign to was proably the halal drums, and im sue they music wasnt all with taberines trumpets ect ect and dirty talk
Yeah, music is very much needed part of life, it helps set the mood according to the situation at hand, it is motivation, joy and anger, it feeds the emotions at need.
Assalamualaikum wa Rahmatullah
Music doesnt feed your emotions, its exactly the opposite. When you listen to sad music, you become sad. When you listen to angry music, you become mad. When you listen to joyous music, you become happy, etc etc. This altering affect it has on the mood makes it haram. Any thing that can disturb your natural being, like alcohol and drugs, are forbidden in Islam. Why should you be sad when you can be happy? Just because a song has that mood? It controls how you feel to a certain point, which is why it is haram.
Think about it, when you watch a scary movie on mute, its almost ridiculous. With the sound, the atmosphere changes and the situation all of a sudden becomes more dramatic.
It is also VERRRRRRRRY addicting, just like alcohol can be...
Wa Allahu Alam
Walaikum Assalam wa Rahmatullah
And so what, this is exactly why I listen to it, because the natural being I must disturb for it is intolarable, in that I have no other option.
But I still dont get it, whats so bad in changing it, it aint like its bad to me or anything, infact its the opposite, but just aswell I only listen to a certain type of music as previously mention.
But to that point, I wouldnt really that alcohol is the same, they effect in a very different way, not even comparable, trust me on it, I know.
its a shame the majority of votes have gone on voting YES that music is listened to. of course, no one is being asked to lie and say NO when they really do, but its something we need to seriously re-consider - listening to music that is. especially since we are members of an islamic forum - from where we should be gaining knowledge from, and using as a means of ridding of sin.. inshallah.
what good does music do to us? what benefit is it 2bring us in the Hereafter? will it speak out for us in the grave?
it is a worldly distraction that shaytaan vowed to use against us.
its about time we thrashed our desires, the shaytaan, rise up against him and his evil forces, and put an end to listening to this wretched false evil sinful music that brings about corruption.
may allah protect us.
*islamia
14-06-05, 06:38 PM
may Allah save us from the Fitnah of music ameen rabul alameEn
HEY SADIA I LOVE UR ICON!:nuts:
Assalamualaikum wa Rahmatullah.
I listen music but i have notice that music for a muslim is not good. Music will weaken Iman of muslim and now i am trying to beware from music. I think music can effect at humans life.
I'm sory if i have any mistake(i belive that i have) in my words.
Assalamualaikum wa Rahmatullah
Al-Nasser
15-06-05, 10:11 AM
you are from Turkey?
may Allah save us from the Fitnah of music ameen rabul alameEn
HEY SADIA I LOVE UR ICON!:nuts:
:D
Ameen to your dua!
And so what, this is exactly why I listen to it, because the natural being I must disturb for it is intolarable, in that I have no other option.
But I still dont get it, whats so bad in changing it, it aint like its bad to me or anything, infact its the opposite, but just aswell I only listen to a certain type of music as previously mention.
But to that point, I wouldnt really that alcohol is the same, they effect in a very different way, not even comparable, trust me on it, I know.
Hi Kaiser
What kind of music, if you don't mind me asking, do you listen to? If it's not bad to you then how do you explain your avatar and your signature? They both give of an angry vibe, like you are not happy. I can't imagine you would listen to fifty cents or to britanny spears. It seems more angry music like nine inch nails or the deathly guy marylin manson. Correct me if I am wrong though.
But with alcohol, your altering your natural state of mind to a state of artifical euphoria. The same with music, people become entranced by some music and let the music overtake them.
What? Music?
Who's DJing? Kaneer?
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 08:45 PM
Ain't no party like a Kaneer party, and the DJ is always me.
Hands up!
Identify yourself :badguy:
Al-Nasser
15-06-05, 08:51 PM
you guys are talking about techno 'n' trance?
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 08:52 PM
:bangbang:
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 08:53 PM
you guys are talking about techno 'n' trance?
Of course:D
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 08:55 PM
I am Daddy DJ.:mujahida:
You wanna drop the pressure? :cool:
Al-Nasser
15-06-05, 08:58 PM
Of course:D
:D :D :D
i wonder if you know Ayla!?...hmmm...Svenson And Gielen...hmmm....Ian Van Dahl..DJ Taucher....DJ Shah.....Safri Duo
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 08:59 PM
Another party where you're not invited?:cool:
I'm fine, as long as the fridge is full :rolleyes:
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:04 PM
I'm fine, as long as the fridge is full :rolleyes:
Don't stop! Get it, Get it!
I'll get it! The moment I wake up :D
Al-Nasser
15-06-05, 09:05 PM
next time when you guys listen to trance music don't stick your ears to the speakers.......snares and kick beats will make you think unclearly and aggressive for one hour and groovy tones will make you laugh for no reasons for one hour too.
and also if you are listning to it on Winamp then DON'T turn on the AVS visuliazation plugin because it can make you go really dumb...no kidding
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:06 PM
I'll get it! The moment I wake up :D
I say a little prayer for you!!;)
You mean, forever and ever?
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:09 PM
Welcome to India where the cows eat hay,
and we drive auto-rickshaws everyday:up:
Oooohh, is that you my friend?
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:10 PM
OH YES!! It is me, my friend.
Al-Nasser
15-06-05, 09:12 PM
:wacko:
Oh, please enter this rap game!
Increase the volume, peleeeeeeeeez!
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:13 PM
Ok! C'mon ... tell me where you're going my friend.
Stab a priest,
With a fork,
And you'll spend your vacation in New York!
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:15 PM
Rob a bank
Take a truck
You can get here by stealing a buck
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:16 PM
I'm steady tryin to find a motive, why do what I do?
The freedom ain't gettin no closer, no matter how far I go
My car is stolen - no registration
The cops patrollin - and now they done stopped me
And I get locked up
I'm steady tryin to find a motive, why do what I do?
The freedom ain't gettin no closer, no matter how far I go
My car is stolen - no registration
The cops patrollin - and now they done stopped me
And I get locked up
To the cop,
With a gun,
The Big Apple is plenty of fun!
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:19 PM
*whispers*
So rejoice
Pop a cork
Honey, everyone's coming to New York!
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:21 PM
Durak Durak
Smitciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:23 PM
Eskiciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:24 PM
Khalas!!!
AbuMusaab
15-06-05, 09:26 PM
Marching on?
a mu-min
15-06-05, 09:29 PM
alhamdulilah i don't listen to musci
brothers - what r u playing at? why r u turning a serious discussion into some foolish game???
Welcome to India where the cows eat hay,
and we drive auto-rickshaws everyday:up:
:rofl1:
One of the funniest things I ever heard.
When I heard the actual "song" booming from some car on the street, I was like :eek: and http://www.ummah.com/forum/images/icons/icon24.gif.
I like the version above much better!
*islamia
16-06-05, 01:47 AM
YA HARAM MUSLIM DJ'S:rubeyes: ???????? WHAT IS THIS UMMAH COME TO:wacko: ??AN END??? KIYAMAH IS COMING
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 02:57 PM
The itsy bitsy spider
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 02:59 PM
Mary had a little lamb
Which she'll slaughter next Eid ...
Kaneer is back :rolleyes:
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:05 PM
have you any wool?
No sir, no sir...I'm all out...come back later.
Boooooooooooooooo *thumbs down*
Jack and Jill, when up the hill
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:08 PM
to steal some gold watches
they got caught, they got killed
Let that be a lesson to you.
Excuse me, I have no appreciation for abstract art.
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:11 PM
That's a shame.;)
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:12 PM
No parking on the dancefloor.
Bomb threat, you lazy freak!
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:13 PM
You're fired.
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:14 PM
Tell me about it.
Alright, alright, *** herif!
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:34 PM
Def ol git burdan, @!#$@# :D
Me no speak Turkish :mad:
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:38 PM
Me no translate Turkish;)
You don't wanna get another warning, eh?
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:39 PM
Another?
*islamia
16-06-05, 03:41 PM
how dare u have al zarqawi or whoever that is as ur avatar when u r a disgraceful DJ
how dare u have al zarqawi or whoever that is as ur avatar when u r a disgraceful DJ
Can't take a joke?
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:42 PM
Who's joking?
And don't you 'whatever' me!
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:45 PM
It's already been 'broughten'!
No I mean music like the one written by master composers like Liszt, Chopin, Tchaikovsky and must not leave out Mussorgsky.
I dont listen to that modern garbage, it is insulting to consider it music.
Hi Kaiser
What kind of music, if you don't mind me asking, do you listen to? If it's not bad to you then how do you explain your avatar and your signature? They both give of an angry vibe, like you are not happy. I can't imagine you would listen to fifty cents or to britanny spears. It seems more angry music like nine inch nails or the deathly guy marylin manson. Correct me if I am wrong though.
But with alcohol, your altering your natural state of mind to a state of artifical euphoria. The same with music, people become entranced by some music and let the music overtake them.
It's already been 'broughten'!
I'm teaching English next week.
*islamia
16-06-05, 03:49 PM
hmm i dont think it is a joke :wacko:
anyways mr DJ i wil make dua that Allah swt will guide u i/a and just to let u know the money u r making with ur "DJING" (if u really do DJ:rolleyes: ) is not halal
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 03:56 PM
I DJ nasheeds.:up:
*islamia
16-06-05, 04:04 PM
r u serious??? oooh well im sorry. you shouldve said somethign when i was yelling somewhat.
What sorta nasheeds?
Kaneeri nasheeds?
AbuMusaab
16-06-05, 04:17 PM
Are there any other kind?
Bloody hell, keep your private converstation out of public threads, use the pm system.
Chill dude. Who said it was private?
Just because you don't understand it, that doesn't mean it's private :rolleyes:
*islamia
17-06-05, 08:25 PM
interestign words ismet i agree music is haram if tahst what ur saying:rolleyes:
interestign words ismet i agree music is haram if tahst what ur saying:rolleyes:
Dear *islamia,
I am a proud, practicing Muslim, and I listen to music. The reason I am telling you this is because I am with those who believe that it is not unconditionally haram, therefore, I do not believe I am "exposing my sins". Please do not call me disgraceful because of this. It is not the manners of a Muslim to do that. If you think I am doing wrong, pray for me. That would be better than calling me names.
And if I, or anybody else for that matter, would want to have the picture of Abu Musa'ab al-Zarqawi for an avatar, or the picture of the best Qaar'i, it is up to us. Listening to music does not make us less Muslims than you are; we may be serving Islam even better. I apologize if I 'sound' harsh, that is not my intention. Please take this lightly.
*islamia
18-06-05, 03:20 PM
Dear Brother,
Thank you for ur feedback. I am a pracing muslim alhamdulilah that belives music is harm,I come across many muslims who dont think it haram, allahu allam it is better to stay away from it inshallah, I am sorry if u took my "expressions or thoughts" in a wrong way, hopefully u didnt inshllah, I apoligize if i offended u brother.
salam
Dear Brother,
Thank you for ur feedback. I am a pracing muslim alhamdulilah that belives music is harm,I come across many muslims who dont think it haram, allahu allam it is better to stay away from it inshallah, I am sorry if u took my "expressions or thoughts" in a wrong way, hopefully u didnt inshllah, I apoligize if i offended u brother.
salam
It's alright, Sis. No hard feelings, insha'Allah.
I take it you'll start praying for me then? :)
*islamia
18-06-05, 08:06 PM
lol of course brother i/a
Mujaheedah
18-06-05, 08:10 PM
May Allah guide us all straighter towards the straight path, but the punishment for listening to music is on the day of yawm al qiyaamat an arrow will be sent through one side of the ear and come out of the other, may Allah protect us all from that day. But i hope that u take into consideration the seriousness of commiting sins, and its never too late to repent.
*islamia
18-06-05, 08:12 PM
so true, and i LOVE ur name
Mujaheedah
18-06-05, 08:13 PM
lol thx i love ur avatar.
Thanks sisters. I'll heed to your advices, insha'Allah.
I love this thread!
AbuMusaab
19-06-05, 01:43 AM
Thanks sisters. I'll heed to your advices, insha'Allah.
I love this thread!
I love this thread, too, Brother.
a mu-min
19-06-05, 09:25 PM
Thanks sisters. I'll heed to your advices, insha'Allah.
I love this thread!
does that mean you will stop listening to music.
we know it's haram especially todays music & singing. i look at it like this if you listen to music and say it's not haram it would lead you to another more evil kind of music that would be considered haram. every evil deed leads to another more evil deed unless you repent.
Muslimah006
19-06-05, 11:19 PM
Ummm..oops does 'music' include nasheeds, b/c I assumed it did. I think nasheeds are great! :up:
Generally nasheeds are ok but even those can contain haram instruments. Just be safe and listen to Dawud wharnsby-like singers who dont use alot of instruments and dont try to imitate the mushrikoon. I love Ahmed Bukhatir, and whoever sings Ghurabah and Tabalah. Really wonderful nasheeds in arabic, mashAllah.
does that mean you will stop listening to music.
Well, Bro, won't that depend on what you classify as music? If you're talking about music as in pop/hip-hop ... etc. .. Then I'd say I'm not a big fan, to begin with. However, if your definition also includes nasheeds, na'ats that include musical instruments, such as Yusuf Islam, Sami Yusuf ... etc. ... Then I have no intention to stop listening to them.
i din vote on dat cuz i do listen 2music bt hamdulillah nt as much n i don love it n i don fnk its haram bt yea i listen 2music...
*islamia
21-06-05, 07:34 PM
Generally nasheeds are ok but even those can contain haram instruments. Just be safe and listen to Dawud wharnsby-like singers who dont use alot of instruments and dont try to imitate the mushrikoon. I love Ahmed Bukhatir, and whoever sings Ghurabah and Tabalah. Really wonderful nasheeds in arabic, mashAllah. so true, liek a jhad a cd for my lil bro with nahsees and it had insturemnts
AbuMusaab
25-06-05, 02:37 AM
Have you seen the movie, "Madagascar?"
I missed it!
You're thinking what I'm thinking?
AbuMusaab
25-06-05, 02:39 AM
I missed it!
You're thinking what I'm thinking?
Dance party?
I like to move it, move it. I like to move it, move it.
Dance party?
I like to move it, move it. I like to move it, move it.
It's a collie fitta, it's a collie ... Oops .. I mean:
Physically fit, physically fit. Physically, physically, physically fit! :cool:
AbuMusaab
25-06-05, 02:55 AM
It's a collie fitta, it's a collie ... Oops .. I mean:
Physically fit, physically fit. Physically, physically, physically fit! :cool:
LOL..:banan:
MivharMeni
25-06-05, 08:19 AM
:rubeyes: I seriously can't comprehend.
Stupid question: if music is haraam what do you guys do at wedding celebrations? Just sit around talking and eating?
Do Muslims not have celebrations? (Birthdays, aniverseries, parties???)
Shaolin's-Finest
25-06-05, 11:45 AM
:rubeyes: I seriously can't comprehend.
Stupid question: if music is haraam what do you guys do at wedding celebrations? Just sit around talking and eating?
Do Muslims not have celebrations? (Birthdays, aniverseries, parties???)
Hello MivharMeni,
So if a muslim listens to music does that make it permissible in Islam ?
You don't judge by the people, you judge by the book.
Mary Carol
02-07-05, 03:55 PM
LOL..:banan:
How shameless.
Dancing in mixed company. :embar:
a mu-min
02-07-05, 06:01 PM
music is haram.
Amatullah_
02-07-05, 09:31 PM
:rubeyes: I seriously can't comprehend.
Stupid question: if music is haraam what do you guys do at wedding celebrations? Just sit around talking and eating?
Do Muslims not have celebrations? (Birthdays, aniverseries, parties???)
We celebrate without music and still have as much fun as those who celebrate with music.
Believe it or leave it.:D
AbuMusaab
02-07-05, 09:52 PM
Baba fain?
Whoa!
Chill man .. With that uninterested, dead-serious avatar of yours :rolleyes:
Baba hena, hena ho. O'lu meen?
AbuMusaab
02-07-05, 09:55 PM
O'lo 3amo Abu Musaab :badguy:
Mary Carol
02-07-05, 10:12 PM
Whew! So glad the dancing has stopped. :up:
3abdelqader ya bu 3alem daaq el 7aal 3aliya ;)
AbuMusaab
02-07-05, 10:37 PM
Daawi 7aali ya bu 3alem, Seedi we roof 3aliya :D
Typing 7aali is one thing, and being able to pronounce is totally another :rolleyes:
AbuMusaab
02-07-05, 11:12 PM
Typing 7aali is one thing, and being able to pronounce is totally another :rolleyes:
Tuuuuuu!!!!! ;)
Tuuuuuu!!!!! ;)
:buttkick:
AbuMusaab
02-07-05, 11:14 PM
:buttkick:
:torture:
AbuMusaab
02-07-05, 11:17 PM
:spunch:
:2hammers:
:2hammers:
:badguy:
Confession Time: I'm finishing you off and taking over this Kaneeri Squad.
Buh'bye!
AbuMusaab
02-07-05, 11:23 PM
:badguy:
Confession Time: I'm finishing you off and taking over this Kaneeri Squad.
Buh'bye!
The squad is nothing without the main ingredient. :mujahida:
AbuMusaab
02-07-05, 11:24 PM
I quit!
:rubeyes:
serious
03-07-05, 09:26 PM
It makes me feel weak person both religiously and personality, so I don’t like it :embar:
I can entertain myself my own way if it is meant for amusement :)
Muslimah006
04-07-05, 12:55 AM
Yes I do listen to music sometimes. Even though I do listen to music sometimes, I know its wrong and a sin. There is no need to justify your sinful actions so why even try? If I did I would only be fooling myself since Allah(swt) knows what is in my heart. InshAllah may Allah(swt) make it easy for us all to look past these dunya things. I inform myself first and foremost.
Wsalam
AbuMusaab
04-07-05, 01:17 AM
I quit!
The Kaneeri Squad is falling apart. Success through teamwork.
Let's resolve this matter, shall we?
The Kaneeri Squad is falling apart. Success through teamwork.
Let's resolve this matter, shall we?
United We Stand?
AbuMusaab
04-07-05, 01:25 AM
United We Stand?
Yeah..:D
yasmin20
28-11-05, 09:41 PM
Music was everything to me B4 i embraced Islam .....i wanted a career in music but alhmadulilah i was shown the path of the truth b4 i really commited my life to music.
i have now stoped listening to music alhamdulillah but its really a struggle because i get sooo tempted even today i love music but i restrain myself from it. I do believe that music is haram as it affects u mentally. Why do people need music to make them happy/sad?? music had a massiveeeeeeeeeee impact in my behaviour if i heard a sad song i would be so depressed and would cry when i used to hear bubbly songs i would be smiling abn being extra happy i think for most people it would be the same .... without realising music starts controlling you and then there goes days when u cant live without music then eventually they turn into hours and then some people cant even concentrate with music!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( i.e my younger brother cant do his homework if music isnt on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Now this is something i dont understand brothers and sisters , i've never heard a nasheed b4 and i have no idea if there is music or not but from what i've heard and read is that naseeds also have music? How can that be? How can these beautiful songs/poems written for our God Allah swt and our prophet be mixed with music? Please do correct me if im wrong as i've never heard a nasheed b4.
Another thing i hope someone can explain to me how can you convince a person who is very well aware that music is Haram but still they are adamant of making a career in this music industry. Their excuse is that its a very good way of making money oof course i'll be praying to Allahswt to guide them but any thing else anyone can think of? Jazak for taking your time and reading this message of mine.
Assalam alakium
norkcen
28-11-05, 09:52 PM
musical instruments and music are two utterly diffrent things
why do people read a ahdith that bans specific instruemnts and immediatly say 'music is harram' when infact no hadith or ayyat even mentions the word music or it's arabic equivelent in a negative manner
yasmin20
28-11-05, 10:01 PM
brother i havent read the Quran nor have i read a hadith about this but do u agree that its not allowed ? what is the difference between music and musical instruments? music is made when musical instruments are combined togehter right? I've read and had conversation with lots of muslims and they all have said the same thing that u must stay away from musical instuments where does it say that music/musical insturments are/are not forbidden?
please try to clear my confusion ps i am aware that there are onlt a few instruments which are not forbidden
Jazzak Allahu Khyre
norkcen
28-11-05, 10:28 PM
becasue msuical instruemtns is a broad term, to vauge to be sued..do you know your voice is a msuical instruemnt, and so is a mans voice, these are instruemtns used to make music, infact, anyhting that makes sound is a msuical insturment, such as when a hammer strikes the gorund, it makes a sound
rather SPECIFIC musical instrumnets are harram, not ALL musical instruemnts, and the ones that are, are wind and string insturemnts, there are no other proofs agsint any other sound makeing decive other than wind and string insturemnts
so me? it depnds on how the music was made wether it was harram or not
also, just becasue it sounds like one instruemnt, does not mean it IS that instruemtn, becasue for one, your computer can geewnrate any sound in the creation, yet computers are not harram, even though can can be used to make music
norkcen
28-11-05, 10:29 PM
becasue msuical instruemtns is a broad term, to vauge to be sued..do you know your voice is a msuical instruemnt, and so is a mans voice, these are instruemtns used to make music, infact, anyhting that makes sound is a msuical insturment, such as when a hammer strikes the gorund, it makes a sound
rather SPECIFIC musical instrumnets are harram, not ALL musical instruemnts, and the ones that are, are wind and string insturemnts, there are no other proofs agsint any other sound makeing device other than wind and string insturemnts
so me? it depnds on how the music was made wether it was harram or not
also, just becasue it sounds like one instruemnt, does not mean it IS that instruemtn, becasue for one, your computer can geewnrate any sound in the creation, yet computers are not harram, even though can can be used to make music
norkcen
28-11-05, 10:31 PM
brother i havent read the Quran nor have i read a hadith about this but do u agree that its not allowed ? what is the difference between music and musical instruments? music is made when musical instruments are combined togehter right? I've read and had conversation with lots of muslims and they all have said the same thing that u must stay away from musical instuments where does it say that music/musical insturments are/are not forbidden?
please try to clear my confusion ps i am aware that there are onlt a few instruments which are not forbidden
Jazzak Allahu Khyre
there are only a few instruments which ARE forbidden
yasmin20
30-11-05, 06:59 PM
which instuments are forbidden and which are not? I dont understand if ur for or against music? are you saying listening to songs theses days is ok as long as the few forbidden instrumnts are not used????????
Ameer Humzah
06-12-05, 11:12 PM
I listen to music, but it isn't something I am proud of.
Bad Man Rapper
07-12-05, 12:23 AM
Well I listen to music.
Well I don't get really do what is in it though u know what i mean. Cause when let's say Tupac says 'eff da police' i immideatly think nah man because whenever i hear something bad i think of allah almighty and i dont really get influecned by the bad words or anything.
I like wise words u know in these rap songs liek for example: -- heaven for a g? -2pac
well that was wise in my opinion cause its like heaven for a g?? HOW BOUT NOOOO
i just heard bout grime muzik (alternative hip hop) here in the states and i download instruemntals and their pretty cool. But remember this, faith is important.
Bad Man Rapper
07-12-05, 12:36 AM
music is haram and happily i dont listen to it!
allahu akbar music brings hiprocosy to the heart, may Allah forgive u all ameen
By the way, how can music bring hiprocosy to my heart?? Do you know what hypocrisy is??
Volume 1, Book 2, Number 33:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr:
The Prophet said, "Whoever has the following four (characteristics) will be a pure hypocrite and whoever has one of the following four characteristics will have one characteristic of hypocrisy unless and until he gives it up.
1. Whenever he is entrusted, he betrays.
2. Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie.
3. Whenever he makes a covenant, he proves treacherous.
4. Whenever he quarrels, he behaves in a very imprudent, evil and insulting manner."
I dont know about you guys but I know that rap music doesnt' have an effect on me at all on trustworthyness, truthfulness, etc.... it has no way on the way I act whatsoever even if i listen to stuff like "GRAB UR GLOCKS LOLLL!!!"
Ppl think islam is like hip hop culture because they both promote violence... i mean wtf?? i hate those ppl.
lanlan_lanwan
20-12-05, 06:20 PM
Music can be uplifting or can be destructive. It depends on the music. This is the case with all of the arts.
Saeedujana
20-12-05, 06:34 PM
as salaamu alaikum,
music is haraam, as it was for the christians. i used to listen to music before i had a surprise encounter with a christian at work who said music and singing was a sin. i knew it was haraam, and i still listened to it. but after this experience i felt like a hypocrite so i stopped, or more so i started to stop. although at work they still play music (without it i must admit the days seems like they'll never end), and at home my brothers do turn it up loud.
for more clarification on the subject of music please do have a read of The Islamic Ruling on Music and Singing (http://members.tripod.com/oum_abdulaziz/music.html). i know it's long, but it's only because it's addressing the issue comprehensively so that we may understand the correct belief, insha'allah.
ma'asalaama
saeed
Well I listen to music.
Well I don't get really do what is in it though u know what i mean. Cause when let's say Tupac says 'eff da police' i immideatly think nah man because whenever i hear something bad i think of allah almighty and i dont really get influecned by the bad words or anything.
I like wise words u know in these rap songs liek for example: -- heaven for a g? -2pac
well that was wise in my opinion cause its like heaven for a g?? HOW BOUT NOOOO
i just heard bout grime muzik (alternative hip hop) here in the states and i download instruemntals and their pretty cool. But remember this, faith is important.
Music is haraam.full stop.end of discussion. It was common at the time of Jahilliyah in Makkah, and it was used as a means to distract people away from the deen of Allah and Rasool (saw), just as it is today, whether we admit or not, whether we realise it or not...
It is a fitna, a trick and a tool of shaiytan. Even if there was doubt in the matter, which there is not, we should rise above such a thing, and refrain simply for the sake of Allah. Most of the time, these songs are talking about garbage; love, lust and issues relating to kuffar and beautifying the DUNYA. As muslims, we should really work to detatch ourselves from this dunya inshAllah, it is only a temporary thing, the akhirah is our goal, the akhirah is better and everlasting....
you might THINK that music does not affect you but Allah knows his creation, and and He (swt) as told us its affects:
'And of mankind is he who purchases idle talk (music, singing) to mislead men from the path of Allah' (Surah Luqman;6)
so the best thing to do is to stay clear, and increase your dhikr of Allah (swt) by reading the Qur'aan and other things inshAllah.
For a detailed explanation of the ruling, please go to the link:
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=5000&dgn=4
Music can be uplifting or can be destructive. It depends on the music. This is the case with all of the arts.
I disagree. It is always destructive, never uplifting. It is the dillusion of music, the trick of shaiytan, and the distraction, that makes us think it is uplifting, in reality, it serves to do nothing except destroy our emaan....whether we are aware of that or not
ur_yusra
20-12-05, 08:37 PM
Music is haraam.full stop.end of discussion. It was common at the time of Jahilliyah in Makkah, and it was used as a means to distract people away from the deen of Allah and Rasool (saw), just as it is today, whether we admit or not, whether we realise it or not...
It is a fitna, a trick and a tool of shaiytan. Even if there was doubt in the matter, which there is not, we should rise above such a thing, and refrain simply for the sake of Allah. Most of the time, these songs are talking about garbage; love, lust and issues relating to kuffar and beautifying the DUNYA. As muslims, we should really work to detatch ourselves from this dunya inshAllah, it is only a temporary thing, the akhirah is our goal, the akhirah is better and everlasting....
you might THINK that music does not affect you but Allah knows his creation, and and He (swt) as told us its affects:
'And of mankind is he who purchases idle talk (music, singing) to mislead men from the path of Allah' (Surah Luqman;6)
so the best thing to do is to stay clear, and increase your dhikr of Allah (swt) by reading the Qur'aan and other things inshAllah.
For a detailed explanation of the ruling, please go to the link:
http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=5000&dgn=4
well said sis :up:
Bad Man Rapper
20-12-05, 09:52 PM
What does Allah Almighty mean by saying do not purchase 'idle talk'?
I have read a hadith somewhere that when Mohammed and his companions were digging something before the war they were singing.
Also that when aisha peace be upon her and mohammed peace be upon him got married, mohammed asked aisha "Why dont you sing?" (read it in islamhelpline.com)
[066:001] O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which God has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
You see, it's a debatable subject. Prophet Mohammed before maybe prohibited music but then later allowed it. I'm not too sure though. If anyone can find me the hadiths that I have stated above that would be REALLY appreciated.
As I said, its debatable and Allah Almighty knows best.
Saeedujana
20-12-05, 10:12 PM
the information has been provided for you, what more do you want. just read it, all your questions will be answered.
kind regards,
saeed
hmm...i know this is bad but jus admitting that yes i listen to music...but im, trying to stop...inshallahu tala
Mujaheedah
03-02-06, 12:22 PM
Yes please sis, just imagine the punishment , an arrow going through one ear and coming out through the other, and this arrow is so powerful it could shatter a mountain.
Music is Haram? well nobody told these guys:
http://www.glumbert.com/media/rave.html
"its peanut butter jelly time!!!!!!!!!!!!":hidban:
Saeedujana
04-02-06, 10:54 AM
[lol] they ain't muslim.
kind regards,
saeed
ThE aPpReNtIcE
04-02-06, 11:42 AM
are those shias lol
Emelianenko
04-02-06, 11:51 AM
aye its haram...but erm me still lstn to it :( :( im tryna stop tho :(
*islamia
04-02-06, 04:26 PM
I dont know how music in the UK is, but here in Us, it is sooooooo NASTY. I mean NASTY. And no muslims should be listening to it. Theres something called Nasheeds people and Quran:rolleyes:
*islamia
04-02-06, 04:27 PM
I listen to music, but it isn't something I am proud of.
Then dont display your sins akhi
Emelianenko
04-02-06, 04:37 PM
I dont know how music in the UK is, but here in Us, it is sooooooo NASTY. I mean NASTY. And no muslims should be listening to it. Theres something called Nasheeds people and Quran:rolleyes:
wha? sami yusuf? :rolleyes: 786? :rolleyes:
Umm Khadijah
09-02-06, 01:51 PM
ALHAMDULILAH, I don't listen to music, maybe because I was never exposed to it. I think its easier if you've never been into it, so those who don't listen to it now, don't bother trying to start lol.
But isn't this topic exposing ones sins? Isn't that haram?
ALHAMDULILAH, I don't listen to music, maybe because I was never exposed to it. I think its easier if you've never been into it, so those who don't listen to it now, don't bother trying to start lol.
But isn't this topic exposing ones sins? Isn't that haram?
no its not haram to expose ure own sin...only that u shudnt expose other pplz sins..\allah will expose ures...
SoulAsylum
12-02-06, 09:25 PM
I listen to music..........
dont think theres anything wrong with it. As long as its not vulgar.
Thruster_LanceThruster
12-02-06, 10:34 PM
I love listening to music, but especially now that I have a new source for it. I just bought a lifetime subscription to Sirius Satellite Radio in order to keep listening to Howard Stern, and I'm totally enjoying rediscovering all sort of things as well as stuff I've never heard, completely commercial free. It makes my hour commute each way bearable and the passengers in my vanpool seem to enjoy the mix of styles that I play.
Terrestrial radio is going to take a big hit.
Now who could argue with that?
hamas_sister_fighter
17-02-06, 10:22 PM
Assalamoaliakum,
I like to listen to nasheed, not just any music.
fee amaan allah
sister fatemah
Umm-Layth
19-02-06, 11:51 PM
no its not haram to expose ure own sin...only that u shudnt expose other pplz sins..\allah will expose ures...
Al `ilmu qabla qauli wal `amal
Knowledge precedes speech & action
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say:
“All of my ummah may be forgiven except those who commit sin openly. It is a kind of committing sin openly if a man does something at night, then morning comes and Allaah has concealed his sin, but he says, ‘O So and so, I did such and such last night,’ when his Lord has concealed him (his action) all night but in the morning he reveals that which Allaah had concealed for him.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5721; Muslim, 2990
May Allaah save us from speaking without `ilm and from revealing our own sins, aameen
muslimforever
21-02-06, 10:46 PM
yep but not as much as i use too..........uhmmm not all music is haraam but yah RNB nd HIP HOP etc is..............so its bes to stay away from them try listening 2 nasheeds
Al-Dhikr
21-02-06, 10:52 PM
As Salaamu Alaikum,
yep but not as much as i use too..........uhmmm not all music is haraam but yah RNB nd HIP HOP etc is..............so its bes to stay away from them try listening 2 nasheedsWhat makes Rn'b and Hip hop different from other Music? Hip Hop is basically spoken poetry with music, remove the music and it'll be halal.
Please have a read of this for a more comprehensive understanding on the subject of music; The Islamic Ruling on Music and Singing (http://members.tripod.com/oum_abdulaziz/music.html). Regarding those who say music is halal, they speak with ignorance.
Ma'aSalaama
Umm-Layth
21-02-06, 11:29 PM
aww just forget it. I should talk to people at their levels!
dksadiq
21-02-06, 11:55 PM
Al `ilmu qabla qauli wal `amal
Knowledge precedes speech & action
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say:
“All of my ummah may be forgiven except those who commit sin openly. It is a kind of committing sin openly if a man does something at night, then morning comes and Allaah has concealed his sin, but he says, ‘O So and so, I did such and such last night,’ when his Lord has concealed him (his action) all night but in the morning he reveals that which Allaah had concealed for him.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5721; Muslim, 2990
May Allaah save us from speaking without `ilm and from revealing our own sins, aameen
As Salaamu Alaikum,
Quote:
Originally Posted by muslimforever
yep but not as much as i use too..........uhmmm not all music is haraam but yah RNB nd HIP HOP etc is..............so its bes to stay away from them try listening 2 nasheeds
What makes Rn'b and Hip hop different from other Music? Hip Hop is basically spoken poetry with music, remove the music and it'll be halal.
Please have a read of this for a more comprehensive understanding on the subject of music; The Islamic Ruling on Music and Singing (http://members.tripod.com/oum_abdulaziz/music.html). Regarding those who say music is halal, they speak with ignorance.
Ma'aSalaama
:up: :jkk: both of u.
Al-Dhikr
22-02-06, 11:36 AM
As Salaamu Alaikum,aww just forget it. I should talk to people at their levels!Yes, it does get annoying when people insist on talking without understanding, especially when the correct ruling has already been given with evidences. One wonders what are they doing here, if not to learn and correct themselves.
Ma'aSalaama
Al Qadr
25-03-06, 03:03 PM
I listen 2 music, its a very bad habit. If I'm bored I'll just switch the radio :confused: on and read a book. Or listen 2 radio while studying :S
in some cases you cant help it.... when u walk down the street u hear music, same when ur shopping there's background music played ..... Music is EVERYWHERE theres no escape!!!
Should i walk around with ear plugs in????
Al `ilmu qabla qauli wal `amal
Knowledge precedes speech & action
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say:
“All of my ummah may be forgiven except those who commit sin openly. It is a kind of committing sin openly if a man does something at night, then morning comes and Allaah has concealed his sin, but he says, ‘O So and so, I did such and such last night,’ when his Lord has concealed him (his action) all night but in the morning he reveals that which Allaah had concealed for him.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5721; Muslim, 2990
May Allaah save us from speaking without `ilm and from revealing our own sins, aameen
:up: correct
in some cases you cant help it.... when u walk down the street u hear music, same when ur shopping there's background music played ..... Music is EVERYWHERE theres no escape!!!
Should i walk around with ear plugs in????
Sure Why Not?:D
Desi_Madam
14-04-06, 12:29 AM
i used to be like obsessed with music at one time.. :wacko:
but alhamdulillah i listen to it alot less now, i wont lie - i admit i still listen to it..my bad. but i can happily say im cutting down inshallah :up:
i used to be like obsessed with music at one time.. :wacko:
but alhamdulillah i listen to it alot less now, i wont lie - i admit i still listen to it..my bad. but i can happily say im cutting down inshallah :up:
Mashallah sis :up:
Inshallah at least you are cutting down alhumdulliah.....inshallah Allah will help you......Whenever you feel like listening to music, just find some good nasheeds that you like and put those on instead...or qur'aan if you have a recitor you really like inshallah...
Im sure its weird at the beginning...but honestly you realise you are not missing out on anything once you stop.....you feel so much better inshallah :)
Desi_Madam
14-04-06, 12:41 AM
Mashallah sis :up:
Inshallah at least you are cutting down alhumdulliah.....inshallah Allah will help you......Whenever you feel like listening to music, just find some good nasheeds that you like and put those on instead...or qur'aan if you have a recitor you really like inshallah...
Im sure its weird at the beginning...but honestly you realise you are not missing out on anything once you stop.....you feel so much better inshallah :)
i know..thats exactly what im trying to do (^_^)
i used to think music helped depression and stress - but maashallah nasheeds and the quran recitation are so relaxing, stop me feelin down in no time :up:
i know..thats exactly what im trying to do (^_^)
i used to think music helped depression and stress - but maashallah nasheeds and the quran recitation are so relaxing, stop me feelin down in no time :up:
Mashallah.....yeh subhanallah thats so true..Qur'aan increases your emaan in no time.......amazing
ur_yusra
14-04-06, 12:50 AM
Mashallah.....yeh subhanallah thats so true..Qur'aan increases your emaan in no time.......amazing
yeh mashaAllah..
im listenin to tabala right now.. I just love it..
but why??? Why do i love it..
Universal_Islam
14-04-06, 07:57 AM
Nah .. I listen to Quran Recitation ...
Black_Flag
14-04-06, 12:21 PM
so wht types of music do you guys like?
Inshallah I pray that all those who answered 'yes' to the poll are inshallah trying to cut down and remove music from their lives.ameen. Replace it with Qur'aan, and Im sure you will no doubt feel a difference....:)
Music is haraam. There is nothing halal about a bunch of kuffars largely talking bout love,women, fornication and other jahil concepts. It is one of the tools of shaiytan. Allah (swt) tells us in the Qur'aan that it distracts you from the path of Allah (swt) and that is exactly what it does. Im sure someone has already posted the ahadith and Qur'aan relating to this here somewhere.
1 ummah
14-04-06, 12:53 PM
so wht types of music do you guys like?
NONE :D
:alhumdull
.: hayat :.
14-04-06, 06:13 PM
YES!!!yes i listen music..and yes i love music..music makes life easier..when i'm sad listening music makes my pain to discrease..when i'm happy i need music for flying on its sounds..when i love i need music to think at my own things,feelings,to hear my thoughts..but depends on music..it has a bad part when it express bad advices like violence..each song has a message (more or less..)..music is not my life but my life is music..life without music would be a big mistake..
YES!!!yes i listen music..and yes i love music..music makes life easier..when i'm sad listening music makes my pain to discrease..when i'm happy i need music for flying on its sounds..when i love i need music to think at my own things,feelings,to hear my thoughts..but depends on music..it has a bad part when it express bad advices like violence..each song has a message (more or less..)..music is not my life but my life is music..life without music would be a big mistake..
:confused:
Are you muslim???......The deception of music, is that it makes you think it is good for you....in reality it does nothing except distance you from your purpose in life and your Creator......the mere fact that people begin to rely on music to 'make their life easy'.....is evidence enough of its brainwashing and time-consuming effects....
.: hayat :.
15-04-06, 05:06 PM
:confused:
Are you muslim???......The deception of music, is that it makes you think it is good for you....in reality it does nothing except distance you from your purpose in life and your Creator......the mere fact that people begin to rely on music to 'make their life easy'.....is evidence enough of its brainwashing and time-consuming effects....
no i'm not muslim..and i think that religion doesn't mean life..it only helps life..music can not create a distance between me and my Creator..music like all the other things are given to us from Him so..don't try to make me seem like a person without brain...you should think before saying bad words...:torture:
no i'm not muslim..and i think that religion doesn't mean life..it only helps life..music can not create a distance between me and my Creator..music like all the other things are given to us from Him so..don't try to make me seem like a person without brain...you should think before saying bad words...:torture:
For muslims, Islam = life. It is a way of life, it teaches us how to live our lives, so that we gain the best out of this temporary life, and the best in the next life.
I never said any 'bad words', do not assume this, nor did I say you were a person without a 'brain'. I was giving some advice and I apologise if you were offended. The whole idea about people singing about women/fornication/drugs/love/alcohol...all things in life that ultimately destruct your mind and mentality....can only be negative and have negative effects....I have never witness it having any beneficial effects. Muslims would for example, spend their time doing other things, and listening to the Qur'aan to lift their spirits, or study Islam.
And I would appreciate if you would think before using that :torture: emotion on me again.... :D
1 ummah
15-04-06, 05:58 PM
the 'No's in the poll are catching up!! :rolleyes:
:up: :hidban: ;)
^^^.....LOL, oh yeh, I didnt realise......brilliant mashallah.....hopefully they will overtake.....get voting people!!!!
1 ummah
15-04-06, 06:03 PM
^^^.....LOL, oh yeh, I didnt realise......brilliant mashallah.....hopefully they will overtake.....get voting people!!!!
Inshallah:up:
Singing and Music
By Sheikh Qaradawi
Among the entertainments which may comfort the soul, please the heart, and refresh the ear is singing. Islam permits singing under the condition that it not be in any way obscene or harmful to Islamic morals. There is no harm in its being accompanied by music which is not exciting.
In order to create an atmosphere of joy and happiness, singing is recommended on festive occasions such as the days of 'Eid, weddings and wedding feasts, births, 'aqiqat (the celebration of the birth of a baby by the slaughter of sheep), and on the return of a traveler.
'Aishah narrated that when a woman was married to an Ansari man, the Prophet (peace be on him) said, " 'Aishah, did they have any entertainment? The Ansar are fond of entertainment.'' (Reported by al-Bukhari.)
Ibn 'Abbas said, " 'Aishah gave a girl relative of hers in marriage to a man of the Ansar. The Prophet (peace be on him) came and asked, 'Did you send a singer along with her?' 'No,' said 'Aishah. The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) then said, The Ansar are a people who love poetry. You should have sent along someone who would sing, 'Here we come, to you we come, greet us as we greet you.' " (Reported by Ibn Majah.)
'Aishah narrated that during the days of Mina, on the day of 'Eid al-Adha, two girls were with her, singing and playing on a hand drum. The Prophet (peace be on him) was present, listening to them with his head under a shawl. Abu Bakr then entered and scolded the girls. The Prophet (peace be on him), uncovering his face, told him, "Let them be, Abu Bakr. These are the days of 'Eid." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)
In his book, Ihya ulum al-deen, (In the quarter on "Habits", in the book Listening to Singing.), Imam al-Ghazzali mentions the ahadith about the singing girls, the Abyssinians playing with spears in the Prophet's Mosque, the Prophet's encouraging them by saying, "Carry on, O Bani Arfidah," his asking his wife, 'Aishah, "Would you like to watch?" and standing there with her until she herself became tired and went away, and 'Aishah's playing with dolls with her friends. He then says:
All these ahadith are reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim in the two Sahihs, and they clearly prove that singing and playing are not haram. From them we may deduce the following:
First:The permissibility of playing; the Abyssinians were in the habit of dancing and playing.
Second:Doing this in the mosque.
Third:The Prophet's saying, 'Carry on, O Bani Arfidah,' was a command and a request that they should play; then how can their play be considered haram?
Fourth:The Prophet (peace be on him) prevented Abu Bakr and 'Umar from interrupting and scolding the players and singers. He told Abu Bakr that 'Eid was a joyous occasion and that singing was a means of enjoyment.
Fifth:On both occasions he stayed for a long time with 'Aishah, letting her watch the show of the Abyssinians and listening with her to the singing of the girls. This proves that it is far better to be good-humored in pleasing women and children with games than to express such disapproval of such amusements out of a sense of harsh piety and asceticism.
Sixth:The Prophet (peace be on him) himself encouraged 'Aishah by asking her, "Would you like to watch?" (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)
Seventh:The permissibility of singing and playing on the drum...
and what follows, to the end of al-Ghazzali's discussion on singing.
It is reported that many Companions of the Prophet (may Allah be pleased with them) as well as second generation Muslim scholars used to listen to singing and did not see anything wrong with it. As for the ahadith which have been reported against singing, they are all weak and have been show