Music

[Neyzen]

Assalamu Alaikum

Do you think that music is haram?

[muslim_sis]

music is haram . music indicates something with instruments in it ! only allowed drums in nasheed. so u need to rephrase , the question and the options

[Sophiya]

it distracts u- u listen to the beat and not the words

its how nasheeds are going aswell

its been about 10 days since i listened to either.

[Neyzen]

shouldnt we put an alternative instead of nonmuslim musics? many muslims listen to nonmuslim songs. cant we praise Allah and his beloved prophets by music?

muslims dont have any right to laugh, amuse? as long as we keep the limit we cam laugh, amuse right? by music u can give lessons to the people.

[simmy]

Nasheeds do praise Allah(swt) and his beloved prophets'

I did initially start using nasheeds a few yrs back as an alternative to listen to music, which shouldn't be my intention, but anyway although nasheeds are good, for me they do become just beats and tunes for me in the background whilst i'm doing other stuff.

Hence I'm not concentrating on what is being said in the nasheed but enjoying the tune instead, I stay away from both now

[Sophiya]

Good for you
i am thinking we need to start some sort of support group like Alcoholics Anonymous!

[simmy]

lol, my craving for music is long gone :)

I can't believe I used to think it was an aid to revising, quite the opposite really :)

Just think about it, you're trying to revise and take something in while you've got music blasting, where's the concentration:rolleyes:

[moshyman]

Assalamu Alaikum

Do you think that music is haram?

You may find this previous thread helpful...

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54863

[Muslim Sista]

i don't know some ppl say its ok and some ppl say only certain types are ok and then theres those saying theres nothing haram about it so i'm quite confused frankly

[niqaabi_18]

music is haraam..

[Shaolin's-Finest]

i don't know some ppl say its ok and some ppl say only certain types are ok and then theres those saying theres nothing haram about it so i'm quite confused franklyHello Muslim Sista,

Music is prohibited.

The dispute here is, some muslims consider Islamic songs permissible, whilst others consider ALL forms of music haraam.

The second group of people stand on a much stronger foundation.

If you hear some muslims claiming that music is not haraam, ignore them. Their the type who follow their whims & desires.

[Sophiya]

lol, my craving for music is long gone :)

I can't believe I used to think it was an aid to revising, quite the opposite really :)

Just think about it, you're trying to revise and take something in while you've got music blasting, where's the concentration:rolleyes:

i can't revise with music but i can't do it silently- i need people chatting or something!
my brother is like that- he has his A-levels coming up and he blasts it so much and he takes so much inspiration from it even if i have said it to himm ages ago and he will sit there and explain it to my family!

if anyone's got any ideas how to ween him off- it would be much appreciated
he won't listen ot nasheeds instead but if i listened then he picks it up and starts singing the words! but it hasn't stopped him listening to it

[Omar]

i can't revise with music but i can't do it silently- i need people chatting or something!
my brother is like that- he has his A-levels coming up and he blasts it so much and he takes so much inspiration from it even if i have said it to himm ages ago and he will sit there and explain it to my family!

if anyone's got any ideas how to ween him off- it would be much appreciated
he won't listen ot nasheeds instead but if i listened then he picks it up and starts singing the words! but it hasn't stopped him listening to it

Cant really give any advice. Its something he has to do himself. I use to listen to Music alot, then I just decided one day to stop and thats the end of it.

You have to have the will to do it. If someone told me to stop I probably would of carried on listening to it. If he has an interest in islam and reads books and wants to expand his knowledge, inshaAllah he will grow to hate music himself just give him time.

[Kaiser]

Music is very nice, esp really good music.

Has any of you heard the grand masterpieces of Franz Liszt or the like ?

[brad_uk]

i can't revise with music but i can't do it silently- i need people chatting or something!
my brother is like that- he has his A-levels coming up and he blasts it so much and he takes so much inspiration from it even if i have said it to himm ages ago and he will sit there and explain it to my family!

if anyone's got any ideas how to ween him off- it would be much appreciated
he won't listen ot nasheeds instead but if i listened then he picks it up and starts singing the words! but it hasn't stopped him listening to it

tell him what will happen when his day is up snd then i'm sure he will dwitch it off.

[brad_uk]

Music is very nice, esp really good music.

Has any of you heard the grand masterpieces of Franz Liszt or the like ?

Vivaldi is the best... i have a 8cd master set its truley amazing

[Sophiya]

so how comes u don't take heed of your own advice?

[brad_uk]

assumtion is avery bad thing...they say its the mother of all !"£$ ups.

I OWN IT. I DONT LISTEN TO IY. where in my point did i say i listen to it.

[Amatullah]

music was definately the hardest thing for me to give up........i was ALWAYS listenin to music..1st thing when i woke up...on the tube/bus....when i was studying... :wacko: and i had a group of friends (my 'hoody' friends) and the only thing we really had in common was music

i would go through periods of not listenin to music...usually substituted by nasheeds...but then i would go back to listening to music, even though since about the age of 14/15 i knew it was haraam (stopped listening when i was 19/20ish)

but then one day i just decided that i couldnt listen to a song....turn it off ..pray...then put it back on again.....that was one of things i felt guiltiest about when listenin to music....and the fact that i always had a song in my head and shaytaan really use to play on that when i was praying ...

but it took me like three years to really stop listening to music ...so you just gotta be patient with people who do listen to music...one thing i hated was my sisters always telling me music was haraam....one or two times..fair enough...but constant nagging just gets tedious

now i love silence :inlove: and really don't understand how people can revise with music playing

[dv34]

exactly! how do people revise with music playing

[Shaolin's-Finest]

assumtion is avery bad thing...they say its the mother of all !"£$ ups.

I OWN IT. I DONT LISTEN TO IY. where in my point did i say i listen to it.Well to say it was "truly amazing", you'd obviously have to listen to it to say that.

[Mary Carol]

Music is very nice, esp really good music.

Has any of you heard the grand masterpieces of Franz Liszt or the like ?

Sadly, I have not, but jazakallah khayr for the suggestion.

I'll add them to my collection.

In college I studied in the early morning hours while listening to a local classical station...and as science has shown a link to (http://gseweb.harvard.edu/news/features/affirmingmozart09202000.html), my grades and test scores improved.

[Amatullah]

In college I studied in the early morning hours while listening to a local classical station...and as science has shown a link to (http://gseweb.harvard.edu/news/features/affirmingmozart09202000.html), my grades and test scores improved.

well they did this study over here in england...where they found that kids who listened to classical music ( :rolleyes: ) did better in their maths GCSE's (end of school...16yrs exams) ...i tried it...but the classical music wound me up soooo much....wasn;t calming at all ...and resorted back to my normal music

but comparing my results to when i listened to music and when i didn't...i found my marks were actually a lot better when i didnt listen to music and i felt like i had a better understanding of the work (and spent more time writing my answers in the exams instead of song lyrics on the table)

so spose it depends on the person

[marjan]

Music is awful. It carries the risk of actually allowing you to feel happy. Very bad.

[Niqaabi]

my r'n'b and banghra days are over, Mishary Rashid has taken over!

[Amatullah]

my r'n'b and banghra days are over, Mishary Rashid has taken over!

:D

[brad_uk]

Well to say it was "truly amazing", you'd obviously have to listen to it to say that.

IS that a judgement? is that how you came to that conclutuion. Good grief would hate to have you as a judge. Its so "obvious" to you. black n white eh.

[Niqaabi]

spelt conclusion :D insha'Allah

[brad_uk]

spelt conclusion :D insha'Allah

Asalahmo Alaikum, Thank you for the spelling correction. I have a question for you too "sister" in Islam. Your avtar states " crap kufr land" please explain if you can thank you.

[Shaolin's-Finest]

IS that a judgement? is that how you came to that conclutuion. Good grief would hate to have you as a judge. Its so "obvious" to you. black n white eh.

So what is "truly amazing" ? And HOW is Vivaldi the "best" ?

[Niqaabi]

exactly waht it says!

[K@M]

It's not whether we think it's haram or not, it is haram. And I know there is a lot of doubt in it, but if you od enough research with an open mind, you will find it is haram..

[INZAMAM]

no it depends on the type of music as well as the lyrics

[Abu Haq]

Look people at the evidences independently regardless of your own opinions/ thoughts/ conceptions/ ideas and whether you like and dislike listening to music of any variation with good and or bad lyrics and you will find that the evidences overwhelmingly side on music being haram- like it or not you got to accept it.

And yes Sheikh Misheri Rashid Ellafasi's recitation is beautiful but I also enjoy listening a lot to Sheikh Muhammed Jibreel and occasionally Sheikh Saad al Ghamidi is a treat.:D

[Neyzen]

Singing and Music

By Sheikh Qaradawi

Among the entertainments which may comfort the soul, please the heart, and refresh the ear is singing. Islam permits singing under the condition that it not be in any way obscene or harmful to Islamic morals. There is no harm in its being accompanied by music which is not exciting.

In order to create an atmosphere of joy and happiness, singing is recommended on festive occasions such as the days of 'Eid, weddings and wedding feasts, births, 'aqiqat (the celebration of the birth of a baby by the slaughter of sheep), and on the return of a traveler.

'Aishah narrated that when a woman was married to an Ansari man, the Prophet (peace be on him) said, " 'Aishah, did they have any entertainment? The Ansar are fond of entertainment.'' (Reported by al-Bukhari.)

Ibn 'Abbas said, " 'Aishah gave a girl relative of hers in marriage to a man of the Ansar. The Prophet (peace be on him) came and asked, 'Did you send a singer along with her?' 'No,' said 'Aishah. The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) then said, The Ansar are a people who love poetry. You should have sent along someone who would sing, 'Here we come, to you we come, greet us as we greet you.' " (Reported by Ibn Majah.)

'Aishah narrated that during the days of Mina, on the day of 'Eid al-Adha, two girls were with her, singing and playing on a hand drum. The Prophet (peace be on him) was present, listening to them with his head under a shawl. Abu Bakr then entered and scolded the girls. The Prophet (peace be on him), uncovering his face, told him, "Let them be, Abu Bakr. These are the days of 'Eid." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

In his book, Ihya ulum al-deen, (In the quarter on "Habits", in the book Listening to Singing.), Imam al-Ghazzali mentions the ahadith about the singing girls, the Abyssinians playing with spears in the Prophet's Mosque, the Prophet's encouraging them by saying, "Carry on, O Bani Arfidah," his asking his wife, 'Aishah, "Would you like to watch?" and standing there with her until she herself became tired and went away, and 'Aishah's playing with dolls with her friends. He then says:

All these ahadith are reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim in the two Sahihs, and they clearly prove that singing and playing are not haram. From them we may deduce the following:

First:The permissibility of playing; the Abyssinians were in the habit of dancing and playing.

Second:Doing this in the mosque.

Third:The Prophet's saying, 'Carry on, O Bani Arfidah,' was a command and a request that they should play; then how can their play be considered haram?

Fourth:The Prophet (peace be on him) prevented Abu Bakr and 'Umar from interrupting and scolding the players and singers. He told Abu Bakr that 'Eid was a joyous occasion and that singing was a means of enjoyment.

Fifth:On both occasions he stayed for a long time with 'Aishah, letting her watch the show of the Abyssinians and listening with her to the singing of the girls. This proves that it is far better to be good-humored in pleasing women and children with games than to express such disapproval of such amusements out of a sense of harsh piety and asceticism.

Sixth:The Prophet (peace be on him) himself encouraged 'Aishah by asking her, "Would you like to watch?" (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

Seventh:The permissibility of singing and playing on the drum...

and what follows, to the end of al-Ghazzali's discussion on singing.

It is reported that many Companions of the Prophet (may Allah be pleased with them) as well as second generation Muslim scholars used to listen to singing and did not see anything wrong with it. As for the ahadith which have been reported against singing, they are all weak and have been shown by researchers to be unsound. The jurist Abu Bakr al-'Arabi says, "No sound hadith is available concerning the prohibition of singing," while Ibn Hazm says, "All that is reported on this subject is false and fabricated "

However, since singing is in many cases associated with drinking parties and night clubs, many scholars have declared it to be haram or at least makruh. They state that singing constitutes that kind of idle talk which is mentioned in the ayah, And among the people is the one who buys idle talk (at the expense of his soul) in order to lead (people) astray from the path of Allah without knowledge, holding it in mockery; for such there will be a humiliating punishment. (31:6)
Says Ibn Hazm: This verse condemns a particular behavior, that of doing something to mock the path of Allah. Anyone who does this is an unbeliever; if he even should buy a copy of the Qur'an, doing so in order to make it the object of his mockery and thereby leading people astray, he would be an unbeliever. It is this type of behavior which is condemned by Allah and not the idle talk in which one may indulge for mere relaxation, without intending to lead people astray from the path of Allah.

Ibn Hazm also refutes the argument of those who say that since singing is not of "the truth" it must be of "error," referring to the verse, "And what is beyond the truth except error?" (10:32). He comments, The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) said, 'Deeds will be judged according to intentions, and everyone will get what he intended.' (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) Accordingly, the one who listens to singing with the intention of using it in support of a sin is a sinner, and this holds true of anything other than singing (as well), while one who listens to singing with the intention of refreshing his soul in order to gain strength to do his duty toward Allah Ta'ala and to dogood deeds, is a good and obedient servant of Allah, and his action is of the truth. And he who listens to singing intending neither obedience nor disobedience is doing something neutral and harmless, whicis similar to going to the park and walking around, standing by a window and looking at the sky, wearing blue or green cloths, and so on.

However, there are some limitations to be observed in the matter of singing:

1. The subject matter of songs should not be against the teachings of Islam. For example, if the song is in praise of wine, and it invites people to drink, singing or listening to it is haram.

2. Although the subject matter itself may not be against the Islamic teachings, the manner of singing may render it haram; this would be the case, for example, if the singing were accompanied by suggestive sexual movement.

3. Islam fights against excess and extravagance in anything, even in worship; how, then, can it tolerate excessive involvement with entertainment? Too much time should not be wasted in such activities; after all, what is time but life itself? One cannot dispute the fact that spending time in permissible activities consumes time which ought to be resaved for carrying out religious obligations and doing good deeds. It is aptly said, "There is no excess except at the expense of a neglected duty."

4. Each individual is the best judge of himself. If a certain type of singing arouses one's passions, leads him towards sin, excites the animal instincts, and dulls spirituality, he must avoid it, thus closing the door to temptations.

5. There is unanimous agreement that if singing is done in conjunction with haram activities—for example, at a drinking party, or if it is mixed with obscenity and sin—it is haram. The Prophet (peace be on him) warned of a severe punishment for people who sing or listen to singing in such a situation when he said, Some people of my ummah will drink wine, calling it by another name, while they listen to singers accompanied by musical instruments. Allah will cause the earth to swallow them and will turn some of them into monkeys and swine. (Reported by Ibn Majah.)
This does not mean that they will be physically transformed into the bodies and outward form of monkeys and swine but rather in heart and soul, carrying the heart of a monkey and the soul of a pig in their human bodies.

[locked]

Singing and Music



By Sheikh Qaradawi







Among the entertainments which may comfort the soul, please the heart, and refresh the ear is singing. Islam permits singing under the condition that it not be in any way obscene or harmful to Islamic morals. There is no harm in its being accompanied by music which is not exciting.

In order to create an atmosphere of joy and happiness, singing is recommended on festive occasions such as the days of 'Eid, weddings and wedding feasts, births, 'aqiqat (the celebration of the birth of a baby by the slaughter of sheep), and on the return of a traveler.

'Aishah narrated that when a woman was married to an Ansari man, the Prophet (peace be on him) said, " 'Aishah, did they have any entertainment? The Ansar are fond of entertainment.''(Reported by al-Bukhari.)

Ibn 'Abbas said, " 'Aishah gave a girl relative of hers in marriage to a man of the Ansar. The Prophet (peace be on him) came and asked, 'Did you send a singer along with her?' 'No,' said 'Aishah. The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) then said, The Ansar are a people who love poetry. You should have sent along someone who would sing, 'Here we come, to you we come, greet us as we greet you.' " (Reported by Ibn Majah.)

'Aishah narrated that during the days of Mina, on the day of 'Eid al-Adha, two girls were with her, singing and playing on a hand drum. The Prophet (peace be on him) was present, listening to them with his head under a shawl. Abu Bakr then entered and scolded the girls. The Prophet (peace be on him), uncovering his face, told him, "Let them be, Abu Bakr. These are the days of 'Eid." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

In his book, Ihya ulum al-deen, (In the quarter on "Habits", in the book Listening to Singing.), Imam al-Ghazzali mentions the ahadith about the singing girls, the Abyssinians playing with spears in the Prophet's Mosque, the Prophet's encouraging them by saying, "Carry on, O Bani Arfidah," his asking his wife, 'Aishah, "Would you like to watch?" and standing there with her until she herself became tired and went away, and 'Aishah's playing with dolls with her friends. He then says:

All these ahadith are reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim in the two Sahihs, and they clearly prove that singing and playing are not haram. From them we may deduce the following:

First:The permissibility of playing; the Abyssinians were in the habit of dancing and playing.

Second:Doing this in the mosque.

Third:The Prophet's saying, 'Carry on, O Bani Arfidah,' was a command and a request that they should play; then how can their play be considered haram?

Fourth:The Prophet (peace be on him) prevented Abu Bakr and 'Umar from interrupting and scolding the players and singers. He told Abu Bakr that 'Eid was a joyous occasion and that singing was a means of enjoyment.

Fifth:On both occasions he stayed for a long time with 'Aishah, letting her watch the show of the Abyssinians and listening with her to the singing of the girls. This proves that it is far better to be good-humored in pleasing women and children with games than to express such disapproval of such amusements out of a sense of harsh piety and asceticism.

Sixth:The Prophet (peace be on him) himself encouraged 'Aishah by asking her, "Would you like to watch?" (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.)

Seventh:The permissibility of singing and playing on the drum...

and what follows, to the end of al-Ghazzali's discussion on singing.

It is reported that many Companions of the Prophet (may Allah be pleased with them) as well as second generation Muslim scholars used to listen to singing and did not see anything wrong with it. As for the ahadith which have been reported against singing, they are all weak and have been shown by researchers to be unsound. The jurist Abu Bakr al-'Arabi says, "No sound hadith is available concerning the prohibition of singing," while Ibn Hazm says, "All that is reported on this subject is false and fabricated "

However, since singing is in many cases associated with drinking parties and night clubs, many scholars have declared it to be haram or at least makruh. They state that singing constitutes that kind of idle talk which is mentioned in the ayah, And among the people is the one who buys idle talk (at the expense of his soul) in order to lead (people) astray from the path of Allah without knowledge, holding it in mockery; for such there will be a humiliating punishment. (31:6)
Says Ibn Hazm: This verse condemns a particular behavior, that of doing something to mock the path of Allah. Anyone who does this is an unbeliever; if he even should buy a copy of the Qur'an, doing so in order to make it the object of his mockery and thereby leading people astray, he would be an unbeliever. It is this type of behavior which is condemned by Allah and not the idle talk in which one may indulge for mere relaxation, without intending to lead people astray from the path of Allah.

Ibn Hazm also refutes the argument of those who say that since singing is not of "the truth" it must be of "error," referring to the verse, "And what is beyond the truth except error?" (10:32). He comments, The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) said, 'Deeds will be judged according to intentions, and everyone will get what he intended.' (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) Accordingly, the one who listens to singing with the intention of using it in support of a sin is a sinner, and this holds true of anything other than singing (as well), while one who listens to singing with the intention of refreshing his soul in order to gain strength to do his duty toward Allah Ta'ala and to dogood deeds, is a good and obedient servant of Allah, and his action is of the truth. And he who listens to singing intending neither obedience nor disobedience is doing something neutral and harmless, whicis similar to going to the park and walking around, standing by a window and looking at the sky, wearing blue or green cloths, and so on.

However, there are some limitations to be observed in the matter of singing:

1. The subject matter of songs should not be against the teachings of Islam. For example, if the song is in praise of wine, and it invites people to drink, singing or listening to it is haram.

2. Although the subject matter itself may not be against the Islamic teachings, the manner of singing may render it haram; this would be the case, for example, if the singing were accompanied by suggestive sexual movement.

3. Islam fights against excess and extravagance in anything, even in worship; how, then, can it tolerate excessive involvement with entertainment? Too much time should not be wasted in such activities; after all, what is time but life itself? One cannot dispute the fact that spending time in permissible activities consumes time which ought to be resaved for carrying out religious obligations and doing good deeds. It is aptly said, "There is no excess except at the expense of a neglected duty."

4. Each individual is the best judge of himself. If a certain type of singing arouses one's passions, leads him towards sin, excites the animal instincts, and dulls spirituality, he must avoid it, thus closing the door to temptations.

5. There is unanimous agreement that if singing is done in conjunction with haram activities—for example, at a drinking party, or if it is mixed with obscenity and sin—it is haram. The Prophet (peace be on him) warned of a severe punishment for people who sing or listen to singing in such a situation when he said, Some people of my ummah will drink wine, calling it by another name, while they listen to singers accompanied by musical instruments. Allah will cause the earth to swallow them and will turn some of them into monkeys and swine. (Reported by Ibn Majah.)
This does not mean that they will be physically transformed into the bodies and outward form of monkeys and swine but rather in heart and soul, carrying the heart of a monkey and the soul of a pig in their human bodies.

So effectively we can conclude that music and singing is haram?

If it 'arouses one's passions' then it should be avoided. If the music isn't good enough to do this then what's the point in listening to it? Unless you're looking for a lullaby :rolleyes:

How come based on the same (or similar sources) people come to different conclusions? It is either haram or it isn't. So far, althought I don't like to admit it, it would appear it's haram.

[Mustafa83]

Overall I belive not all music is haram I belive there is alot of songs out there that is very wonderfull. I dont listen to music that much but in american society most music you see on tv like gangster rap, britney spears etc etc this type of music is garbage/trash and in my view it is haram.

There is songs out there that is not haram in my view such as soothing classical music,smooth jazz, oldies rock such as elvis/la bamba ,techno/trance which is much like a nasheed, Hawaiian music, the list can go on and on.

I understand why some Muslims say music is haram there has been many government projects that the illuminati funded to produce mind controling songs such as the dark materia picard song have been around since the 1960's. Soppoly after listening to this picard song over 4 people have reported killing a loved one related to them. I listen to the song myself I allready knew ahead of time to resist its mind controling aura I know how they try to brainwash us and I resisted the music and so far I have not killed anyone.
Infintie love and peace is a must to resist there tricks.

[forskeNed Life]

:salams

The fatwa given above seems pretty reasonable to me. Just keep in mind though, dont do it excessively and dont make it an addiction or a habit. Some friends of mine cant drive w/out having the radio on, IMO that indicates a problem.

:wswrwb:

Nomie

[ayeah-geeza]

I cant believe there are still some people not knowing about this... Nasheeds
without musical instruments(daff is allowed).