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abdulhakeem

24-03-05, 12:50 PM

24 March 2005

More than one-fifth of all 14-year-old girls in Britain have had sex - and with an average of three partners, according to a survey.

But half of those girls regret their experience and 70% of all 14-year-olds say they need more information about love and sex, the report for Bliss Magazine reveals.

The survey of 2,000 teenage girls across Britain with an average age of 14.5 years is the most comprehensive of its kind and has some surprising results on dating and sexual activity among young teenagers.

Girls said they felt let down by parents and teachers regarding information on sex, as 57% said their parents had never talked to them about the subject, and almost half (44%) said they relied on magazines for details. One third (32%) got the low-down from friends.

Only seven per cent said their teachers provided appropriate information.

The findings show that of the 22% of 14-year-olds who have had sex, almost two-thirds have had unprotected sex (65%), almost half have had a one-night stand (45%) and 55% have sex more than once a month.

Only six per cent have never had sex again after their first experience.

Alcohol is one of the key factors in girls losing their virginity early, as 60% of sexually-active 14-year-olds admitted to being drunk during their first time.

Despite their early sexual encounters, the vast majority of 14-year-olds still held on to old-fashioned values, with 94% dreaming of getting married by the age of 25 and 89% saying they wanted to tie the knot before having children. Also, 94% said love, affection and romance was more important to them than sex.

Editor Lisa Smosarski said: "This survey shows that teenagers really are new traditionalists - they want to get married and have children first, yet they are having sex earlier and often under the influence of alcohol. The figures are extremely worrying - particularly the number of partners girls have had."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA1532171111511053A0?source=

related:

Abuse: One in five girls hit by boyfriend - A tenth of teen girls forced to have ... (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52735)

Study: Many virgins take other risks (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52782)

HIV teens 'taking more sex risks' (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52700)

Kayled

24-03-05, 04:19 PM

:rubeyes: Ouch! thats really terrible..

Baby Paw

24-03-05, 07:00 PM

Allah protect us from the fitnah of loose women.

Shaolin's-Finest

24-03-05, 07:13 PM

Allah protect us from the fitnah of loose women.

Naida

24-03-05, 07:15 PM

And then you have everyone (including muslims) crying out, "but they're so young for marriage! They need to explore life."

Well, they're exploring, you morons.

Ebony

24-03-05, 07:19 PM

oneshot

24-03-05, 07:21 PM

Allah protect us from the fitnah of loose women.

...and the over-testosteroned, under-moraled males that prey on drunk 14-year olds.

Baby Paw

24-03-05, 07:26 PM

oneshot, I would envisage that these 14 year old ladettes are getting it on with similar aged lads. Like minds and all that?

Anyway, I'm talking about loose women here not 14 year old drunken and stoned ladettes.

Yes Ebony, you do have a valid point indeed, its everywhere.

Chained_Water

24-03-05, 07:29 PM

...and the over-testosteroned, under-moraled males that prey on drunk 14-year olds.

Indeed.. they seem to be forgotten.

It takes two.

Chained_Water

24-03-05, 07:30 PM

14 and an average of three sexual partners?!

Well that shouldn't be shocking.. but it is!

Baby Paw

24-03-05, 07:35 PM

I know it's totally loopid, the sheer thought it.
No wonder STDs are so common.
Ustugfirullah

Khuzamah

24-03-05, 07:35 PM

its not really a shock to me cos i've known these kinda ppl @ school... but it is very sad :(
Naida I agree with u about the marriage thing!

Power of Hijab

24-03-05, 07:37 PM

When sex is so prevalent, when sexual activities are discussed so openly, when evrything contains sexual innuendo's, when sex is plastered across billboards, when porn is widely accepted and viewed why is this [the above report] so shocking (?)

I agree Ebony - I read this in the newspaper this morning, just a follow up story about the survey and I wasn't that shocked, I mean Im still at college, and I see what a free notion sex is - ppl are so blase about it all, always have been even while i was in high school - why are these same ppl shocked then?!

Ebony

24-03-05, 07:38 PM

14 and an average of three sexual partners?!

Im sure if they werent drunk enough they'd remember the others

simmy

24-03-05, 07:39 PM

Alcohol is one of the key factors in girls losing their virginity early, as 60% of sexually-active 14-year-olds admitted to being drunk during their first time.

hmm, interesting

I was waiting for someone to post this up, saw it in the metro

Baby Paw

24-03-05, 07:42 PM

Why do you think they have names like Hooch and Two Dogs, it is zina serum, the key that gives your qareen access to Nafs Central.

SoulAsylum

24-03-05, 07:43 PM

Alcopos have a lot to answer for.

SoulAsylum

24-03-05, 07:45 PM

Why do you think they have names like Hooch and Two Dogs, it is zina serum, the key that gives your qareen access to Nafs Central.

Alcohol is the mother of all vices!!

Chained_Water

24-03-05, 07:50 PM

Im sure if they werent drunk enough they'd remember the others

:rotfl:

That is funny but it's also disturbing as I wouldn't be surprised if there was truth in it!

Fourteen year olds who've had three+ sexual partners :banghead:

Kayled

26-03-05, 08:38 AM

...and the over-testosteroned, under-moraled males that prey on drunk 14-year olds.
MAYBE it was the girls who prayed on them!... :rolleyes:

Peace Out.

Arsalan

26-03-05, 10:50 AM

its because of the chav ****! they are taking over northern britain and they are heading south east like gypsies! :P

.: Anna :.

26-03-05, 10:53 AM

MAYBE it was the girls who prayed on them!... :rolleyes:

Peace Out.

I think theyre both equally guilty & responsible for their actions...

Shaolin's-Finest

26-03-05, 10:57 AM

I think theyre both equally guilty & responsible for their actions...

agree.

What concerns me most is whats gonna happen to our kids!

Baby Paw

26-03-05, 03:34 PM

Each subsequent generation shall be worse than the last.

Isn't there some hadith along those lines and wot not?

~Stanley~

26-03-05, 04:37 PM

Each subsequent generation shall be worse than the last.

Isn't there some hadith along those lines and wot not?

Interesting thought that I too would like followed up on, if written as you describe,
would that not make plain that Islam is doomed to failure regardless of it's efforts?
Not only Islam of course but, you mentioned "some hadith" , ...... ~ .... ?
Now, am I correct that "a hadith" is NOT from Allah, as the Quran is alleged to be?
Are hadiths simply writings of those who followed Muhammad along the path toward Islam?

Ebony

26-03-05, 04:44 PM

agree.

What concerns me most is whats gonna happen to our kids!

I was discussing the same thing with my peers. We perceive the current climate to be bad, and can observe and recall this trend developing and worsening. However, what will happen to the next generation? Can things possibly get any worse ?(Yes)

As parents what can you do, you cant coccoon your children or get them to live inside a bubble. Parents will need to be more vigilant in their parenting to ensure their children aren't brainwashed by this filth.

~Stanley~

26-03-05, 05:02 PM

Allah protect us from the fitnah of loose women.

Baby Paw, I would ask you if this so-called "fitnah of loose women" and how Islam defends itself from it is due in large part because Islamic society is extremely open and frank in discussing sexual matters which allows the young to make a more informed choice?

Ebony

26-03-05, 05:15 PM

Each subsequent generation shall be worse than the last.

Isn't there some hadith along those lines and wot not?

Are these the ones? >

Sahih Bukhari

Volume 5, Book 57, Number 2:
Narrated Imran bin Husain:
"Allah's Apostle said, 'The best of my followers are those living in my generation (i.e. my contemporaries). and then those who will follow the latter" 'Imran added, "I do not remember whether he mentioned two or three generations after his generation, then the Prophet added, 'There will come after you, people who will bear witness without being asked to do so, and will be treacherous and untrustworthy, and they will vow and never fulfill their vows, and fatness will appear among them."

Volume 5, Book 57, Number 3:
Narrated Abdullah:
The Prophet said, "The best people are those living in my generation, and then those who will follow them, and then those who will follow the latter. Then there will come some people who will bear witness before taking oaths, and take oaths before bearing witness." (Ibrahim, a sub-narrator said, "They used to beat us for witnesses and covenants when we were still children.")

www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

Baby Paw

26-03-05, 05:28 PM

Stanley, hadith is saying or traditions of the Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) that was relayed his companions or those associated with the Prophet (PBUH) at one stage of his life or another. The Quran is the literal word of Allah as relayed to Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) by Allah via the Angel Jibreel (Gabriel). The life of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is the practical example of how to live your life in accordance with the word of Allah. So the hadiths are examples of how to live your live in accordance with the teachings of the Quran.

There is no failure or success for Islam, as muslims believe that Allah don't need us, we need Allah. Whether one chooses to accept the precepts of Islam does not make and iota of difference to Allah, however, it does to us humans for our welfare not only in this lifetime but more importantly the next.

When the end of days are almost complete, Islam will no longer exist in this world. All the muslims will have perished and all that will remain is the kaffir, who will witness the result of when Allah commands the Angel Israfeel to blow on the horn that will commence the beginning of the end of the world.

Stanley, pertaining to issue of loose women, there is no need for Islam to defend itself against such fitnah. It is down to each individual whether they give into their carnal desires in accordance or against the precepts of Islam.
As each individual has been granted the freedom of choice.

Unlike certain other faiths, sex within Islam is very much liberated as long as you carry out the act within the confinements of marriage with your respected marriage partner. Anal intercourse is not permitted and so isn't oral intercourse. So is approaching your wife when she is having her monthly cycle. Islam does not have a problem with sex.

Infact whatever the married couple are capable of doing physically they can, its all good with the laws of Islam.

As you will note loose and casual sex breeds STDs, unwanted pregnancies and the subsequent problems that such issues generate.

So you can see why Islam is not for loose sex.

Baby Paw, I would ask you if this so-called "fitnah of loose women" and how Islam defends itself from it is due in large part because Islamic society is extremely open and frank in discussing sexual matters which allows the young to make a more informed choice?

abdulhakeem

28-03-05, 01:52 PM

although this is a u.s. study i suppose its related:

Teen sex, drugs link to bedroom TVs

By Cara Jenkin
March 28, 2005

TEENAGERS who have a television in their bedroom are more likely to use marijuana, smoke, binge drink and have sex, a study has found.

The increased and unsupervised exposure to risk-taking behaviour shown in the media is blamed for the trend, picked up in the US study by the University of California and published in medical journal Australian Doctor.

The reduced interaction with parents caused when some used the TV as a `baby-sitter' was also found to have contributed.

The survey of more than 1000 adolescents between 12 and 16 years of age revealed half had a TV in their bedroom and watched more hours of TV than those without.

Parents of teenagers with a television in their bedroom were also less likely to know how, where and with whom they spent after-school hours.

Child and Youth Health Youth Help Line and Parent Help Line manager Bernice Gray agreed with researchers that teenagers were more vulnerable to adopting similar behaviour when they had direct access to a television.

She said while all family members need their own space to relax, too much unsupervised television can lead to young people taking part in risky behaviour.

"Often a parent may not be comfortable talking about sexual activity or smoking and it is important for parents to get that conversation going and encourage young people to express their thoughts and concerns," she said.

"It depends on how often they watch private TV and it is a timely reminder for parents, not to monitor what they are watching, but keep a watching brief and ask questions and be involved."

She suggested parents keep an evening free for the whole family to spend time together to talk about issues or just catch up with everyone else's lives.

Hayley Bell, 20, of Surrey Downs in Adeliade, had a TV in her bedroom all through high school and said she does not believe it affected her behaviour.

"I probably watched more TV in the family room with the family than in my room," she said.

"We are a pretty close family and generally had all our meals together, so we interacted with each other in that way and have kept that up."

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12674686-421,00.html

Rizi_Wizi

30-03-05, 07:48 AM

Islamic society is extremely open and frank in discussing sexual matters which allows the young to make a more informed choice?

Wherever did you get that idea from? Which Islamic society are you talking about?

Kindly substantiate your statement with evidence, fact, reasoning and logic please.

Islamistan

30-03-05, 08:00 AM

May Allah protect us and our families from the dishonour of such kind of people. Ameen.

Bubble-Buster

30-03-05, 05:19 PM

Baby Paw, I would ask you if this so-called "fitnah of loose women" and how Islam defends itself from it is due in large part because Islamic society is extremely open and frank in discussing sexual matters which allows the young to make a more informed choice?

Hi Stan

You never stop insinuating and asserting disinforamtion and each time I respond to your posts at different threads, you take time off, but never answers me, why? Because you have realized that I have figured you out behind your id and avatar? You got that right!

Crono

31-03-05, 02:01 AM

PiElle

31-03-05, 05:36 AM

simmy

31-03-05, 07:46 AM

wow, only 1/5?..sex at that age isn't abnormal..

i am sure everyone here has heard of Aisha, and mayam..who was 12 when she has issa

in ameirca, before i was muslim..in my early teens..everyone i knew had sex on a regular basis...13-16 yr olds, sex at that age isn't new...it has been happening sence the dawn of time

and i shoudln't see why anyone woudl object to what Allah has ordintained..seeing as that is actually past the useual age for purberty for woman

You might be right about the age, but pay a little attention to the fact that they've had 3 partners and also been drunk while at it, and hence don't even remember who they had it with, which isn't something that Allah has ordained for them

ThE aPpReNtIcE

31-03-05, 12:05 PM

Oral is not haram Baby Paw..

*IslamicGirl*

31-03-05, 12:10 PM

:start:

:salams

and i shoudln't see why anyone woudl object to what Allah has ordintained..seeing as that is actually past the useual age for purberty for woman

In Islam sex AFTER marriage is halal not before where the Islamic punishment is 100 lashes for fornication.

Sexual Promiscuity is a sick thing esp when ppl flaunt it, last yr there ws a report abt rape and the figures were really high :vomit:

Sick

:salams

Shaolin's-Finest

31-03-05, 01:31 PM

Oral is not haram Baby Paw..

Opinions vary. Best to refrain from it.

ThE aPpReNtIcE

31-03-05, 11:10 PM

i actually asked a sheikh from Al-Madina Uni..bout that..he said if ur married its permissible...

Bubble-Buster

31-03-05, 11:24 PM

In Islam, oral sex between husband and wife is permissible. The only prohibition is about anal sex between husband and wife, which also includes using hand and finger as well.

ThE aPpReNtIcE

31-03-05, 11:41 PM

jazakum allah khair bro..wat do u mean hand and finger? and is that permissible or not?

Bubble-Buster

31-03-05, 11:47 PM

jazakum allah khair bro..wat do u mean hand and finger? and is that permissible or not?

Anal sex between husband and wife is absotely prohibited in Islam. This prohibition also includes use of hand/s or finger/s for stimulation or foreplay etc.

ThE aPpReNtIcE

01-04-05, 12:01 AM

o0o0o reali..i never knew that hmm

Shaolin's-Finest

01-04-05, 12:15 AM

Kissing and licking etc.. is allowed but if it leads to the release of semen then it is Makruh.

Arsalan

01-04-05, 03:06 PM

Ok i read todays daily telgraphy, there was a table to go with it. It may well be subject to inaccuracies. But over 12000 ppl were interviewed.

Pakistanies are the least likely to have STI, also on average tey have 1 sexual partner.

On the other hand white women and black men seem to be far worse off.

Love league tables show link to sexual disease
By Nic Fleming, Health Correspondent
(Filed: 01/04/2005)

White women in Britain have more sexual partners than females from the other main ethnic groups but black men have an average of 50 per cent more lovers than white males, according to new research.

<script src="http://news.telegraph.co.uk/core/NetGravity/mpu.js;sessionid=HBM3TVVLT14DNQFIQMFSM5WAVCBQ0JVC" language="javascript"></script> <script language="JavaScript" src="http://ads.telegraph.co.uk/js.ng/site=news&spaceid=mpu&logstatus=f&transactionID=1112367715989&Section=news/uk_news&view=details&xml=/news/2005/04/01/nsexx01.xml"></script>A survey of more than 11,000 adults aged between 16 and 44, published today in The Lancet, reveals that white women claim to have had an average of five sexual partners, black Caribbeans four, black Africans three, and both Indians and Pakistanis one.

Among men, those of black Caribbean and African descent both average nine lovers in their lifetime, followed by whites with six, Indians two and Pakistanis one.

Dr Kevin Fenton of University College London, the study's lead author, says this was the first research among the general population. Previous studies of sexual behaviour and health have been based on data gathered at genito-urinary clinics, raising fears over how far the findings could be generalised.

In analysing the results, the researchers took steps to prevent the data being skewed by a small number of individuals claiming large numbers of partners.

They find that higher proportions of black men admitted to having had sexually transmitted infections (STIs), and that black Caribbean men reported an average age of first sexual intercourse of 15 - two years lower than any other ethnic group of either sex.

Dr Fenton says that this could contribute to the higher incidence of sexual health problems among the black population in Britain, especially given that black Caribbeans tend to be younger and more often single than the rest of the population.

He also points out the role of cultural norms regarding issues such as multiple partners and the age of losing one's virginity, with the substantially older age of first intercourse and lower number of partners among Indians and Pakistanis coinciding with low STI rates.

When men were asked about whether they had ever been diagnosed with a STI, 10.9 per cent of whites, 19.7 cent of black Caribbeans and 16.2 per cent of black Africans said they had. The figures for Indian and Pakistani males were 3.4 and 3.2 per cent.

Despite claiming to have had fewer partners, black women report more STIs, with 22.7 per cent of those of Caribbean descent and 14.1 per cent of those of African descent admitting to at least one. The proportions among whites, Indians and Pakistanis are 12.4, 7.8 and 3.6 per cent respectively.

Dr Fenton warns that this could mean white women are less likely to report sexual health problems than blacks.

The average male age for loss of virginity is 15 for black Caribbeans, 17 for whites and black Africans and 20 for Indians and Pakistanis.

Among women it is 17 for whites and black Caribbeans, 18 for black Africans, 21 for Indians and 22 for Pakistanis.

Interestingly, the overall median claimed number of sexual partners is six for men but only four for women.

The researchers put this down to men exaggerating and women downplaying their sexual history.

Dr Fenton concludes: "While trends may change over time, one thing that doesn't seem to change in surveys of sexual behaviour is that men will over-report and women will under-report."

Kayled

01-04-05, 03:45 PM

Anal sex between husband and wife is absotely prohibited in Islam. This prohibition also includes use of hand/s or finger/s for stimulation or foreplay etc.

WAIT A SEC!!!!

anal sex is allright in islam it's not prohibited..!!!!!
where did ya get that!!??!!!

We took it in school.. everything (in normal husband-wife sex) is halal except anus sex..

Don't just say stuff .. :wacko:
(look it up)

Peace Out.

Chained_Water

01-04-05, 03:48 PM

Kayled

01-04-05, 03:51 PM

My grade scool teacher discussed it in class and there nothin to it ...

Peace Out.

Chained_Water

01-04-05, 03:53 PM

My grade scool teacher discussed it in class and there nothin to it ...

Peace Out.

What on earth are you on about?

Are you determined to post useless things just for the hell of it?!

Read this (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51797&page=3)

Bubble-Buster

01-04-05, 05:09 PM

WAIT A SEC!!!!

anal sex is allright in islam it's not prohibited..!!!!!
where did ya get that!!??!!!

We took it in school.. everything (in normal husband-wife sex) is halal except anus sex..

Don't just say stuff .. :wacko:
(look it up)

Peace Out.

I am not sure which one is true about you:

(1) You are intoxicated?
(2) You are under the influence of controlled substance?
(3) You need glasses?
(4) You have learning/reading disability?
(5) You are being sarcastic?
(6) Or all of the above?

But you have distorted my message quite oppostite to what I said (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showpost.php?p=571237&postcount=43). You have also slandered me by doing so.

You owe me an apology. Also have some edcuated person read and interpret my post to you.

Ebony

01-04-05, 06:14 PM

....anal sex is allright in islam it's not prohibited..!!!!!
...everything (in normal husband-wife sex) is halal except anus sex..

Both are the same thing.
Look up the terms (anal/anus) in a dictionary if you think otherwise.

PiElle

02-04-05, 03:24 AM

In Islam, oral sex between husband and wife is permissible. The only prohibition is about anal sex between husband and wife, which also includes using hand and finger as well.

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jazakum allah khair bro..wat do u mean hand and finger? and is that permissible or not?
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Anal sex between husband and wife is absotely prohibited in Islam. This prohibition also includes use of hand/s or finger/s for stimulation or foreplay etc.
BB... may i say:-

there is a great difference between:-
1)The only prohibition is about anal sex between husband and wife, which also includes using hand and finger as well.
(u mean hand and finger in the anus?)

OR

2)This prohibition also includes use of hand/s or finger/s for stimulation or foreplay etc.
( u mean stimulation or foreplay using hand/s or finger/s in the anus!!!???)

And dun tell me you think foreplay is prohibited...haha...

Please be specific and clarify your views because I would think those 2 means alot of differences.

Thank you.

Sex is science, there's nothing to be ashame about.

Islamistan

02-04-05, 09:08 AM

You lot are disgusting. How can you even talk about things like that?

Jam

02-04-05, 09:57 AM

:salams

You lot are disgusting. How can you even talk about things like that?
There is no taboo in Islam regarding seeking knowledge. Our Prophet :saw: was regularly asked and regularly answered such questions from those who wished to know. Remember intimacy conducted in the correct way in the correct conditions is actually pleasing to Allah Subhanahu Wa'Tala and actually becomes a form of charity. :)

:wswrwb:

ThE aPpReNtIcE

02-04-05, 11:38 AM

if u dont ask..u can committ a masia..and not even kno =)

Shaolin's-Finest

02-04-05, 12:00 PM

babysara

04-04-05, 10:58 AM

these are serious issues and there is not point on havin the debate on whose fault it is....i mean a girl should be able to look after herself and a guy should not take advantage....

Rizi_Wizi

04-04-05, 11:17 AM

Sex is allowed in Islam between husband and wife. Only thing that is prohibited is anal sex.

Foreplay isn't prohibited.

Strictly speaking the only other thing that is forbidden, is sex during a woman's menstruation.

Foreplay is permitted, except that which is related to anal penetration.

Bubble-Buster

04-04-05, 11:22 AM

BB... may i say:-

there is a great difference between:-
1)The only prohibition is about anal sex between husband and wife, which also includes using hand and finger as well.
(u mean hand and finger in the anus?)

OR

2)This prohibition also includes use of hand/s or finger/s for stimulation or foreplay etc.
( u mean stimulation or foreplay using hand/s or finger/s in the anus!!!???)

And dun tell me you think foreplay is prohibited...haha...

Please be specific and clarify your views because I would think those 2 means alot of differences.

Thank you.

Sex is science, there's nothing to be ashame about.

Perhaps you missed my post in which I was very detailed and specific about this issue. Let me repeat again:

1> Anal sex is absolutely prohibited in Islam between husband and wife. (Period).

2> Touching anus, using figers, or hands for foreplay (with anus) and for stimulation is strictly prohibited in Islam.

Permissibles

(1) Foreplay is perfectly allowed and encouraged.
(2) Oral sex is permissible
(3) Vaginal sex is allowed in any position husband and wife like
(4) Taking bath/shower together and sex in the bathroom is permissible between husband and wife.

I hope this clears thigs up for you. By the way science or no science, there is no excuse for Haram to be Halah, in Islam. Also no one can make Haram to be Halal or vice versa in Islam. Allah has already decreed that.

PiElle

04-04-05, 11:26 AM

Strictly speaking the only other thing that is forbidden, is sex during a woman's menstruation.

Foreplay is permitted, except that which is related to anal penetration.

exactly, even a gynae would have said the same thing...

just think the women's body is subjected to hormonal changes everyday that has a monthly cycle... then the pregnancy, then the deliveries of babies... so u guys go figure....

Rizi_Wizi

04-04-05, 11:50 AM

exactly, even a gynae would have said the same thing...

just think the women's body is subjected to hormonal changes everyday that has a monthly cycle... then the pregnancy, then the deliveries of babies... so u guys go figure....

Shhh... isnt life tough! But the rewards are even greater.

A sahaabi once came to the Prophet (saw) and asked if he was to take his elderly mother onto his shoulders and perform the tawaaf of the Kaaba, would he be forgiven for the sins he had committed against her?
The Prophet (saw) replied that he would not be able to repay even one bit of the pain she sufferred when she gave birth to him.

abdulhakeem

05-04-05, 01:57 AM

Oral sex safe and not really sex, say U.S. teens

Mon Apr 4, 2005 06:05 AM BST

CHICAGO (Reuters) - One in five U.S. teenagers say they have engaged in oral sex, an activity that some adolescents view as not sex at all and certainly less risky than intercourse, according to a report.

The survey of 580 children with a mean age of 14-1/2 found 20 percent said they had engaged in oral sex, compared to 14 percent who said they had engaged in sexual intercourse.

In addition, one-third of the multi-ethnic 9th graders surveyed said they intended to have oral sex within the next six months and nearly one-fourth planned to have intercourse during the period. It was more common for boys to have performed oral sex on girls than vice versa, the report said.

Previous studies and numerous campaigns aimed at deterring teenaged sex have focused on intercourse, but as many as half of adolescents experience oral sex first, the report said.

The risk of transmitting infections, including HIV, is significantly less with oral sex than with intercourse but is likely underestimated by teenagers, said the report in the journal Paediatrics.

Youngsters who engage in oral sex rarely used condoms or dental dams, even though herpes, hepatitis, gonorrhoea, Chlamydia, syphilis as well as the virus that causes AIDS can all be transmitted orally, it added.

"Given the suggestion that adolescents do not view oral sex as sex and see oral sex as a way of preserving their virginity while still gaining intimacy and sexual pleasure, they are likely to interpret sexual health messages as referring to vaginal sex," wrote lead author Bonnie Halpern-Felsher, a paediatrician at the University of California, San Francisco.

"Adolescents also believed that oral sex is more acceptable than vaginal sex for adolescents their own age in both dating and non-dating situations, oral sex is less of a threat to their values and beliefs, and more of their peers will have oral sex than vaginal sex in the near future," she wrote.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=8072413

Bubble-Buster

05-04-05, 10:06 PM

How this help a Muslim forum and Muslim audience, is beyond me?

PiElle

06-04-05, 04:39 AM

Perhaps you missed my post in which I was very detailed and specific about this issue. Let me repeat again:

1> Anal sex is absolutely prohibited in Islam between husband and wife. (Period).

2> Touching anus, using figers, or hands for foreplay (with anus) and for stimulation is strictly prohibited in Islam.

Permissibles

(1) Foreplay is perfectly allowed and encouraged.
(2) Oral sex is permissible
(3) Vaginal sex is allowed in any position husband and wife like
(4) Taking bath/shower together and sex in the bathroom is permissible between husband and wife.

I hope this clears thigs up for you. By the way science or no science, there is no excuse for Haram to be Halah, in Islam. Also no one can make Haram to be Halal or vice versa in Islam. Allah has already decreed that.

Dear BB... thanks for the clarification. What i was trying to say about the science part, is... it would support the restrictions too, like you said, as Allah has already decreed... :-)

(btw.... do i need to pull out any sources to support what i just said?)

abdulhakeem

22-05-06, 12:23 AM

What teens really think about sex

Experts shocked as report reveals depths of ignorance that lead many to unsafe sex

Denis Campbell, social affairs correspondent
Sunday May 21, 2006
The Observer (http://www.observer.co.uk/)

Eight out of 10 teenagers lose their virginity when they are drunk, feeling pressurised into having sex or are not using contraception, a survey has revealed.

The research, conducted by the Trust for the Study of Adolescence, will alarm government ministers, who are concerned that the UK has the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in western Europe and that sexually transmitted infections (STIs), such as chlamydia, are found mainly in those aged 16-19.

The survey of 3,000 London secondary school pupils aged 15-18 found that:

· 39 per cent had sex for the first time when one or other partner was not equally willing

· Almost three in 10 lost their virginity for 'negative reasons', such as wanting to please a boyfriend

· 51 per cent of girls and 37 per cent of boys had had unprotected sex

· 58 per cent of girls and 39 per cent of boys had slept with someone at least once without using a condom

· Two in five wish they had waited longer before having sex

· Only 20 per cent who have sex for the first time take precautions, are in a steady relationship or feel the timing is right

Anna Martinez of the Sex Education Forum said. 'These results show that there's a lot of ignorance among young people about sex and that too many are becoming involved in high-risk sexual behaviour before they have had the chance to learn about issues such as how to resist pressure from partners, friends and the media to have sex. Schools, parents and professionals are failing young people by not giving them adequate support and information.'

The trust's report, carried out for the Naz sexual health project in west London, reveals for the first time how sexual attitudes and experiences vary between ethnic groups. While 80 per cent of all the teenagers surveyed were 'not sexually competent' the first time they had sex, that figure rose to 93 per cent for boys of black-Caribbean origin, for example. And 32 per cent of boys of black African origin did not use contraception when they first had sex, compared to 10 per cent of white British pupils and 18 per cent of interviewees overall.

Many of those from ethnic minority backgrounds knew little about about how to prevent and identify the symptoms of STIs, and black Caribbean young men were more likely than others to have risky sex.

Bryan Teixeira, chief executive of the Naz project, said many young people from ethnic minority backgrounds ended up confused about sex because, while their parents often have traditional views, sex was discussed openly at school. Boys and young men were a particular problem, said Teixeira, as they were more likely to indulge in risky sexual behaviour and to have more partners than girls.

Although few places have as many pupils from an ethnic minority background as the Londoners in the survey - well over half - the results paint a worrying picture of the sex lives of Britain's 5.2 million teenagers.
However, just 18 per cent of respondents had had sex before 16, the age of consent, which contradicts the impression of widespread underage sex and shows no increase on statistics from previous studies.

The report's call for Sex and Relationships Education to be made compulsory in schools to help tackle what Teixeira calls 'widespread knowledge gaps' and to help pupils ensure their sexual welfare, was backed by CosmoGIRL magazine, which has been running a high-profile Just Say Know campaign.

Editor Celia Duncan said: 'Some of the findings in this report are shocking and underline the case for all secondary school pupils to be taught not just about how to create a baby, but also about how to handle a guy who is pressurising you to have sex.

'There are too many myths bandied about in the playground, such as 'you can't get pregnant your first time'. If pupils remain ignorant about sex, the consequences will be higher rates of STIs and unwanted pregnancies.'
A £50m Department of Health advertising campaign promoting responsible sex is due to start this autumn.

A teenager's view

· Bethany Cole, a 16-year-old schoolgirl from Buckingham, thinks there is still not enough sex education.

'Most people I know haven't had sex yet and didn't have sex before turning 16. They don't care about breaking the law as they think no one will find out. Some male friends joke about sex and say that they've 'had it', but I suspect much of that is just male bravado. Me and my girlfriends do talk about sex; for example, if someone has had sex for the first time with a new boyfriend, or asks us if she can catch a sexually transmitted infection from something she did at the weekend. But my friends are pretty responsible, and use condoms, for example.

I'm lucky. I got a lot of sex education at school. Our form tutor gave one lesson over to answering questions that we'd all submitted anonymously, to minimise the embarrassment, which taught me a lot. Like how you can catch a STI or know if you've got one, and how to deal with peers or boyfriends who are pressuring you to have sex.

It's crazy that many other schools, including one near mine, don't give education on sex and relationships. It should be compulsory at all secondary schools - there'd be fewer teenage pregnancies, STIs and infertility caused by people leaving an STI untreated.

Some people say that if you teach young people about sex they'll be more likely to do it. But I've been taught about the dangers of smoking since I was 12 and haven't been tempted to try that. Proper sex education clues you up.'

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,1779918,00.html

tux08902

23-05-06, 01:12 AM

...and the over-testosteroned, under-moraled males that prey on drunk 14-year olds.

Which are found only in Western society because Islamic society is closed to sex and the sale of alcohol is forbidden in most "practicing" nations.

In the United States, the average age for losing virginity is 17. I'm not surprised, but atleast in America it is consensual, not labeled on drinking.