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Salams
Just wondering whether you would be interested in merging to another islamic forum similar to ours theirs is bigger they claim they have over 300 users online at anytime and over 1 million post..what is offered is to pay all our server costs and rentals and everything in return they have their own moderation team...which may mean it could be bye bye us mods....or working under a different authority..they wanted to merge ummah.com and their forum together to make one big forum...its very much like this one apparently it seems of course be joining with a host of other new users....and this place will be buzzing!
I emailed the main ummah.com guys see what they said..whats ur opinion gimme a vote!
I voted yes, but I want to make that a conditional yes. As long as the rules & moderation remains similar, it sounds like a good idea.
If they will pay our bills is not bad at all but we are not saying bye bye to our moderators at all. We keep our moderators and our forum look too. They can come to talk here, anyway their users can open anytime account here too.
I think it wouldn't be a good idea if you, Sajid, asked to play a part on the Moderation team. You know us better than they do. Plus, which forum is this?
Id say no, since it wouldnt be ummah.com anymore, itll be another giant discussion place and like you said, its like we get consumed into a part of something else.
So no win here.
Besides whats wrong with our current one, do we actually need those need to sell ourselves to buy new members, I see no point in it.
We gain nothing, but we will most likely lose everything.
Let us not be simpletons, to be led to believe in false trickery.
i have a divided opinion about this...hmmmmmmm
I think it wouldn't be a good idea if you, Sajid, asked to play a part on the Moderation team. You know us better than they do. Plus, which forum is this?
yep-a link would be useful:)
Amir Ali
20-01-05, 06:07 PM
Assalaam-u-aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,
Go for it!
Peace.
AbuMubarak
20-01-05, 06:10 PM
i personally think the many islamic forums should start to merge, the internet is a great networking tool
Im definately against it, they are basic offering us something that is worthless after it gets merged.
Since frankly, if we get merged then well, be a part of them and they dont really have any other options to pay for it, since itll be one single forum.
But what do we get for it, NOTHING, everything we have built over the years will be gone, like it has never even existed.
Personally I consider this selling out a treason of sort.
I say scorched earth, rather then assimilation.
If they want to swallow us than no! They should pay our bills and in exchange will leave them to enjoy our forum too, only that! We remain in this formation!team.
Ok this is what happens
at the moment we are all one big community each and every memeber on this board is part of this Daily Community - face it most of you are here each and everyday and its been part of your life..to some extent?i mean comon think about its true dont u think?
Then along comes another community who we dont know anything come in and join our community ..it kinda changes the outlook of things!
Perks will be it will be more active forum more people different views more to talk about.....however problem from our part the current mods - whom most of u know know so well...may not have a say in much things...in other words different Agenda or theme more then likely....We all know most of u all very well...meaning in terms of what you belive in support etc..
Ibn has summarised it well we know u as much as others do!
....it may be differnet if some other new mod comes along and wants it their way with u guys!
Like youve always said quality is better then quantity, so lets stay with quality.
And I definately dont like the idea of the new merged forum having some different ideals, or restrictions it will tear the existing community apart.
If Id want something different Id be on another forum, but I dont.
Personally I dont see any point in staying here any longer if the merger happens.
K - nothing will be gone
posts will be here
threads will still be here
members will still here
all u will see is
more posts
more threads
more members
more activity
etc
Im not too much in favour of this myself but i thought id share it with u all cos ur all part of the ummah family.
If the conditions were same mods and we moderate and administer the board then YES!
I know the meaning of the concept of merger.
Everything will stay that there is, but the thing is right now its whole after the merger it will be a fragment with no meaning and will thus dissapear over time.
Huja Usman
20-01-05, 06:37 PM
is it like ummah.com/forum.?
brosajid whats the forums name?
sfvalley
20-01-05, 06:50 PM
bigger is not alwasy better, it is just.......bigger. Kinda like how many people can you get to know before you don't know anybody?
Umm Layth
20-01-05, 07:04 PM
Can we check out the other forum?
Chained_Water
20-01-05, 07:11 PM
I say NO WAY.. I don't want ummah.com to be eaten up by another forum..
I like it the way it is and always has been.. I think it would be the death of ummah.com in many ways.. that sounds melodramatic.. but I'm just not one for this kind of change.
My heart says no and my head says no too.
What are their motives? If their community is so big why do they want ummah.com?
What do we know about them and how they run things and who they are run by?
Lets weigh this up..
What do we get from them? They pay our costs.
What do they get from us? Complete control over ummah and the ummah.com name
I don't think our costs are worth selling that out. Then again, I don't pay them and nor do any of us.. so we have no right in it anyway.. but you are asking for opinion and mine is a No.
Chained_Water
20-01-05, 07:11 PM
bigger is not alwasy better, it is just.......bigger. Kinda like how many people can you get to know before you don't know anybody?
true.. if it's really as big as they say it is.. I think we will completely lose our sense of community anyway.
I think the reason Sajid has failed to tell us the name of this other forum is because it is Israelforum.net.:D
Chained_Water
20-01-05, 07:34 PM
I think the reason Sajid has failed to tell us the name of this other forum is because it is Israelforum.net.:D
:nervous:
now if we were to take them over.. I wouldn't mind that ;)
*IslamicGirl*
20-01-05, 07:39 PM
:start:
:salams
Go for it InshaAllah, bigger diversity of people is def a :up:
what if ummah shuts dwn cuz of funding, then we'll ALL regret the decison of not merging with another forum. And who ever the Members of the other forum are, i'm sure are not that bad. If it's a Muslim forum, we'll get an even bigger ummah.
Yes it seems change is not nice, but sometimes its a good thing. It's best to have a bit of something than not have it at all.
And maybe with our diveristy and craziness we might have more influence than them... i mean how bad can it be?
:salams
Chained_Water
20-01-05, 07:42 PM
:freedom: for ummah.com
Chained_Water
20-01-05, 07:44 PM
Just wondering whether you would be interested in merging to another islamic forum similar to ours theirs is bigger they claim they have over 300 users online at anytime
bye bye (close-knit) community. :wavey:
If we do "hypothetically" merge unto another forum, I suggest we set-up a clan (Worker's Union) called the Ummah Posse (Alright, bad name). Nobody knows our online persona better than ourselves; that is, we all get carried away at times, lash out at others, etc. For the Moderators over there, this is just another oppurtunity to send someone to Bansville.
P.S. I hope it isn't "Sunniforum" because I won't be able to use my Username. According to GenN, there's somebody there with my ID tag.
Chained_Water
20-01-05, 08:03 PM
Well I'd like to know which forum this is..
but I would still say NO regardless.. is sunniforum good bro?
I'm not a part of it myself because if I were, I'd pursue this pseudo-Ibn Aziz.
ZawjatuRaafi
20-01-05, 08:36 PM
I too say no. I think that we have a nice forum as we have it. We have an amount of posts easy to maneuver through in a day. If there were more I would not get through them all I know this cause i get tired of going through the pages to find good stuff as is.
I think that with them coming in they will change the defining meaning of Ummah, they will take away from the way things have been run and I PERSONALLY like the way things have been run with exception of a few issues. I feel that because it will not be a joint owned forum that we may lose control of certain things (mind you Allah is in control of everything but i hope you understand my meaning).
I too say quality over quantity! I have never thought more means better.
Sooo... I say NO!!! But then that was already known :)
I like our small Ummah community so NO :)
In my opinion there was supposed to be another option named "Not sure, need more information about the other forum" !
Honestly, I can't say whether its good or bad idea unless I know more about the other forum.
Semantic
20-01-05, 10:26 PM
You could always contact the current sunniforum Ibn Aziz and ask for a name swap if you like Ibn Aziz, I wouldn't see any problem in switching around your names.
It's not sunniforum, we're into the close knit community thang too :)
More likely gawaher or similar.
Sajid - why don't you get more advertising in like gawaher do?
http://forums.gawaher.com/index.php?showtopic=6718
We personally set up a partnership with shariahprogram.ca for our advertising (see the bottom of each forum page), as have Islamica. Via that we've more than paid for our next two years hosting, even if we get horrendously big.
I don't think it's that good an idea myself, especially if its gawaher (I didn't even register there as I'd be banned in a second :)).
no.
variety is the spice of life :banan: :banbear: :hidban:
muslim-bro
20-01-05, 11:05 PM
Ok this is opinion I have. When Islam was small and only few muslims, look how strong their emaan was at the time of the Prophet PBUH. Today we have 1 billion muslim and with so much muslim is so much dissapointment.
Hasan2004
20-01-05, 11:12 PM
I was just over there but I may have to get another account.
Hasan
ABDELWAHHAB
20-01-05, 11:17 PM
as-Salaamu Alaykum wa-Rahmatullaahi wa-Barakaatuh Brother Sajid
How many British Pounds does it cost to advertise on ummah forum?
Let us know what you want to advertise, and we'll negotiate.
I think we should go for it. The more active the better, it will also unite the Muslim Ummah that much more inshaAllah.
baba did u get the email i sent to the webteam about this?
whadya reckon? ill see what the other say...
i know it costs around £100 per month to run this place on a Dedicated box..
ABDELWAHHAB
20-01-05, 11:25 PM
Let us know what you want to advertise, and we'll negotiate.
in'shaa'ALLAAH i hope to advertise prayer rugs.
BubbleGum
21-01-05, 12:00 AM
i know it costs around £100 per month to run this place on a Dedicated box..
That reminds me. Where do you send donations to cover that cost, Sajid?
BTW, I voted 'Not Bothered' and meant to vote 'No'. THAT'S an example of why I need a phone with a backspace botton.
~Bub
it depends, if we retain the mods and have an equal share in all desicion making then i c nothing wrong. All it means is that things will change around here. Which means that there will be even more threads about marriage and useless topics.
However, i like ummah as it is, becuase there are those useless topics in addition to the serious ones. I hope this place doesnt turn into a serious place.
Songbird
21-01-05, 04:50 AM
Ok this is what happens
at the moment we are all one big community each and every memeber on this board is part of this Daily Community - face it most of you are here each and everyday and its been part of your life..to some extent?i mean comon think about its true dont u think?Erm, nope. I'm one of the few that don't live at ummah.com
Though for quite a few, this place has become their life-line. Kinda like a mobile phone that they've become a little *too* attached to.
I say close Ummah.com for a month and watch the addicts[oops, I meant members of course] despair en masse.
Mr_Jailer
21-01-05, 10:02 AM
I don't mind either way.
But, those that say they will lose a sense of community need a reality check. :eek2:
Have to bear in mind that this is a forum and not a social club. The primary reason for a forum is to hold discussions on various topics and give information.
I don't know whos plannin' the takeover bid but assumin' its mainstream Sunni Muslims they are brothers and not strangers in Islam.
They shouldn't infringe on our values system. They won't even change the ummah.com url as I understand it.
I see this as an opportunity. The circle of friends people have established need not necessarily disband.
It just means more and more people will ur read articles, ur viewpoints, take part in your polls etc...
And if the mods are oppossed to the take over for fear of losin' their jobs, then I'm sure negotiatin' with the takeover forum to retain the mods would suffice, and we the users can lend weight to the cause insha'allah.
:up:
how bouts u merge it with mpadc, that way u'll have a big techno forum and mpadc will gain much mo users.
So long as the forum doesnt become something like CG i dnt mind about the merger.
Ws
ze leetle elper
21-01-05, 12:50 PM
No.
And that is final. :D
No.
And that is final. :D well i suppose it's settled then :p
Mr_Jailer
21-01-05, 01:16 PM
well i suppose it's settled then :p
Lol.
Who wears the trousers in your household. :rubeyes:
peace2u
21-01-05, 01:41 PM
Mrs 7 of course :rolleyes: sheesh.
Peace
what if ummah shuts dwn cuz of funding, then we'll ALL regret the decison of not merging with another forum.
As I mentioned earlier:
SCORCHED EARTH
Ok no it is aint gonna happen :)
So the merger is off, thank you.
Allah bless you for making the right choice.
Chained_Water
21-01-05, 05:46 PM
Ok no it is aint gonna happen :)I think that really does call for a
WoOoOoOhHOoOoOoOoOo
(don't tell anyone I said that)
(P.S. doesn't that look beautiful)
Chained_Water
21-01-05, 06:25 PM
yes i agreeaww
it's cute how you post this as a response to everything :p
(lazy!)
Hasan2004
21-01-05, 06:49 PM
I need to post something over there.
Unknown mc 1
21-01-05, 07:49 PM
"Ok no it is aint gonna happen :)"
So is it gonna happen or not?!
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so, ermmm.. who pays to keep this forum up & running?
peace2u
22-01-05, 01:30 AM
Alhamdulillah :) that was way too close for comfort!
Peace
Assalmu alaykum,
so now can you tell us which forum it was?
and erm i may be a litlle late (as usual) but my answer is, i couldnt care less as i'm trying to get away from forums, becasue they do tend to take over peoples lives. But it would be sad to see some mods lose their jobs.
Assalmu alaykum,
so now can you tell us which forum it was?
and erm i may be a litlle late (as usual) but my answer is, i couldnt care less as i'm trying to get away from forums, becasue they do tend to take over peoples lives. But it would be sad to see some mods lose their jobs.
I think it's gawaher. I was a member there when it opened. But traffic was so slow. Too many forums for the number of users. Ummah.com is better (was better? I haven't been there for a while except to download e-books).
I vote no.
I'll even pay £25 a month to say no.
Salams
Just wondering whether you would be interested in merging to another islamic forum similar to ours theirs is bigger they claim they have over 300 users online at anytime and over 1 million post..what is offered is to pay all our server costs and rentals and everything in return they have their own moderation team...which may mean it could be bye bye us mods....or working under a different authority..they wanted to merge ummah.com and their forum together to make one big forum...its very much like this one apparently it seems of course be joining with a host of other new users....and this place will be buzzing!
I emailed the main ummah.com guys see what they said..whats ur opinion gimme a vote!
if those new mods are stricter than you guys in banning the kaffir's then yes merge, but if they are more lenient (i can't really see that!!!) then NO!
:salams
Perhaps this is a good thread in which to provide the Ummah.com donation link, in case members have a few old coins down the back of the sofa they'd like to donate.
:wswrwb:
Peace.
I accidentally misread the poll options and voted not bothered instead of bad idea.
I love our mods, and dont want new ones. This forum is great the way it is.
New rules? New Regulations? No way. I have come to trust and feel comfortable here.
Chained_Water
05-02-05, 07:11 PM
LOL.. the comments on this thread make it sound like we get paid or something :p
Then again, judging from the amount of time we spend here, you'd think we did :eek2:
yorkshireman
05-02-05, 11:47 PM
I've got confidence in the current management team, so no, takeover not needed.
Chained_Water
05-02-05, 11:50 PM
I've got confidence in the current management team, so no, takeover not needed.:eek:
AdamLevine
06-02-05, 12:08 AM
Whoa Don't Merge With Those Guys, Trust Me.
what guys?
ive not told anyone the board who where interested lol
AdamLevine
06-02-05, 12:55 AM
i know which guys man, you guys are like the american government of forums man, invading them and indoctrinating them with your false KAFIR ideologies.
ive not told anyone the board who where interested lol
Lemme guess, it was either Ze Lettle Ltd or PonderingStar Corp?
muslim_sis
17-02-05, 09:47 AM
i fink we shud just keep it da way it is ! nice n compfy :-) he he he
Al-Irhaab
18-11-05, 03:55 PM
how about if someone told me the operating costs of ummah.com/forum I might e interested in arranging to have it paid with the same moderating team etc and rules in place and same running team but with some changes to advertising rules pm whoever sorts this kind of thing out.
being al-irhaab does have its benefits. saudi sheikhs et al
Al-Irhaab
19-11-05, 10:03 PM
ahem any takers anyone i was serious
Abu Mus'ab
10-01-07, 03:14 PM
ahem any takers anyone i was serious
And what do i get? *Roll Eyes*
Arsalan
10-01-07, 03:16 PM
Salams
Just wondering whether you would be interested in merging to another islamic forum similar to ours theirs is bigger they claim they have over 300 users online at anytime and over 1 million post..what is offered is to pay all our server costs and rentals and everything in return they have their own moderation team...which may mean it could be bye bye us mods....or working under a different authority..they wanted to merge ummah.com and their forum together to make one big forum...its very much like this one apparently it seems of course be joining with a host of other new users....and this place will be buzzing!
I emailed the main ummah.com guys see what they said..whats ur opinion gimme a vote!
I wonder what other islamic forum Sajid was talking about.... :rubeyes:
Abu Mus'ab
10-01-07, 03:41 PM
I wonder what other islamic forum Sajid was talking about.... :rubeyes:
I don't know either.
Ummah.com is the biggest Islamic forum online now, they'd have to join here now.
RazielTemp
22-05-08, 09:45 AM
Salams
Just wondering whether you would be interested in merging to another islamic forum similar to ours theirs is bigger they claim they have over 300 users online at anytime and over 1 million post..what is offered is to pay all our server costs and rentals and everything in return they have their own moderation team...which may mean it could be bye bye us mods....or working under a different authority..they wanted to merge ummah.com and their forum together to make one big forum...its very much like this one apparently it seems of course be joining with a host of other new users....and this place will be buzzing!
I emailed the main ummah.com guys see what they said..whats ur opinion gimme a vote!
depends on what kind of Mods they have, and what type of Users they Allow, do they have the same set of rules as Ummah.com, about banning Abusive kuffar?
also which forum would that be akhi?
also Don't we already have More than 1 Million posts on this forum?
:jkk:
Abu Mus'ab
22-05-08, 04:56 PM
erm i hope you know this thread is over one and a half years old :rubeyes:
:rotfl: .. Typical Raziel .. :D
I haven't voted because it depends on the ethos of the other forum. If they started changing the rules on what can or cannot be discussed out of an overblown sense of political correctness then I wouldn't like that. A lot would depend on their moderating rules and stuff.
RazielTemp
26-05-08, 09:09 PM
erm i hope you know this thread is over one and a half years old :rubeyes:
:smack: :outta:
:jkk:
RazielTemp
26-05-08, 09:09 PM
:rotfl: .. Typical Raziel .. :D
why you pickin on me ... :buttkick:
:jkk:
Lefthook
31-05-08, 07:08 PM
Hmm, if its a muslim forum of a similar nature then why should someone have qualms about merging? Doesn't the name ummah.com do itself injustice if it refuses to merge with another muslim forum and thereby increase dialogue within the actual ummah?
Abu Mus'ab
01-06-08, 03:34 PM
murtads opinions aren't wanted.
Irfan GBH
01-06-08, 04:27 PM
SAJID! WHO WANTED TO TAKE OVER????
I bet it was Islamicaweb :p
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