Adult forum on ummah.com?

[sajid]

Salams


(quick note things i have said on thsi thread are BLUNT if u dont wanna read then close this now)



it got me thinking after a some posts the other day which have to be shifted containing Grown up material
it got me thinking that these issues exist and no point in Denying or hiding it........if ur not gonna learn about it anywhere where else u gonna know about it? those that are fortunate to have a good islamic education may have learnt about such issues like Sex/Contraception etc or whatever....maybe some people are less fortunate and dont know

by adult forum im not talking about Dodgy Stuff and all...like Talking about your fantasies
So Im up for ideas and all..im stumped on this one so feedback from u guys wud be appreciated

here are some issue:
1) Problem of running it how? we cud either Moderate all posts that goes in and out i.e needing approval that cud be on possibility??

2) who gets access? determing people age etc any gender issue? Shud it be seperate or mixed?

3) Definiation of Adult........nowadays u see 10 yr old getting pregnant and all..some wud say That young person on this forum wud not be suitable for seeing this.....if 10yr old already know on how to get pregnant and all cud something like this not be educational for them so they know the boundaries? (if u know what i mean) So this Age limit is the Biggest problem of all

Please give me ur feedback i will ask the other mods aswell regarding this issue but ive posted to the Users first

RE: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43169&page=1&pp=20&highlight=adult+forum

[Al-Nasser]

let people ask adult questions in an Islamic forum to get honest Islamic answers rather than they ask in some bad forum where they will get bad un Islamic advises.

and remeber the prophet :saw: said that there should not be shame when discussing religious matters.

of course the adult forum will be split into two forums...and the sisters one will be very restricted i guess...as for the brothers froum i believe it should be open for new comers.....for example a guy who is searching for the Islamic view on some embarssing matter and registered in Ummah forums to ask....its not rational to ask him to wait one month to ask the question..imho

[Mary Carol]

How would you determine who was an adult?

This is the cyberworld.

Not reality.

[Chained_Water]

I said this in the drinking breast milk thread and stand by it.

I don't think we need an adult forum. We can move threads of this nature to the private muslim forum because as I said before, I doubt the non-muslims will be too concerned about it being moved, they have far greater aspects of Islam they need to pay attention to. This thread was for a muslim brother to get an answer and has fulfilled its purpose.

Suitability of a thread for a younger audience really does not depend on topic but depends on content and context.

I think it should be dealt with as needed on a thread by thread basis. InshaAllah users who feel something is inappropriate for main will PM the mods.

Because by having an Adult Forum we may end up:
a) Removing valuable information from the public domain. Information which may be beneficial to younger members, inshaAllah.
b) Encouraging conversation in the Adult Forum which is inappropriate.. we see some of it right here on General, I think some users would see an Adult Forum as a place to let it rip.

Plus the age issue is tricky.. Islamically there is no age limit.. it depends on individual development and maturity and everyone needs to be educated on the Islamic standpoint on and have information available to them if they need it.

Thats my two "pennies" :p

[sajid]

There is moderation option where u can block all posts from getting thru!

it comes to mods where we can approve/decline MEssages from being posted.....so that can cover the issue of "letting things rip"

[Chained_Water]

let people ask adult questions in an Islamic forum to get honest Islamic answers rather than they ask in some bad forum where they will get bad un Islamic advises.

and remeber the prophet :saw: said that there should not be shame when discussing religious matters.

:up:

[Chained_Water]

There is moderation option where u can block all posts from getting thru!

it comes to mods where we can approve/decline MEssages from being posted.....so that can cover the issue of "letting things rip"Oh ok.. I think I remember that happening to me once as a user.. I couldn't post anything in Sisters Forum without being told it had to be moderated..

Anyways.. wouldn't this create extra work for us mods? ~ahem~

and I also think it would mean the Adult Forum would be dead.. because people would be waiting for approval for ages and would just end up posting it in main.

[Chained_Water]

You should've made this a public poll :crying:
I like public polls :D

[Mary Carol]

I wonder if the non-adults will stuff the ballot box? lol

[Resistance]

as brother Nassar said, put the question in Islamic forum

there is nothing called adult forum, if you have adult forum then you are opening the gates of ****an and I'm not pleased with the option.


Allah swt knows best

[slmz :)]

i dnt think u shuld... unafair on youngsters bcoz older ppl no more stuff and hav a wider knowledge on islam and other things which shuld b shared with evry1 esp. youngsters!!!

so 4 me its NOOO WAAY!

thank u!

[dhakiyya]

Suitability of a thread for a younger audience really does not depend on topic but depends on content and context.

I think it should be dealt with as needed on a thread by thread basis. InshaAllah users who feel something is inappropriate for main will PM the mods.

Because by having an Adult Forum we may end up:
a) Removing valuable information from the public domain. Information which may be beneficial to younger members, inshaAllah.
b) Encouraging conversation in the Adult Forum which is inappropriate.. we see some of it right here on General, I think some users would see an Adult Forum as a place to let it rip.

Plus the age issue is tricky.. Islamically there is no age limit.. it depends on individual development and maturity and everyone needs to be educated on the Islamic standpoint on and have information available to them if they need it.



I would tend to agree with this. Kids have embarrasing questions too, and they need proper Islamic answers even more than adults who are new converts do. In addition, some people do convert to Islam when they are teenagers, and they do not have Muslim parents and teachers that they can discuss these issues with.

You can discuss matters of hygeine, marital relations and similar topics which can cause embarrassment in a respectful way and without being lewd. Maybe these topics could all be confined to a section for these kinds of questions, and the moderators would have to look out for and deal with people being disrespectful, treating it like a joke, or making lewd comments or similar. Also moderators could decide whether it is better to discuss some issues in the brothers or the sisters private forum (but bearing in mind whether the person asking the question or bringing up the issue for discussion is able to access those forums of course!)

[sajid]

OK thanks for input folkes

its not specifically gonna be called Adult forum i just Categorised that for the meantime i cud not think of anything else

[parvez]

I don't think there is any point of creating an adult forum.


P.S. Whats the thing about islamic/brothers/sisters forums ? Are those hidden or something ?

[Resistance]

OK thanks for input folkes

its not specifically gonna be called Adult forum i just Categorised that for the meantime i cud not think of anything else
sajid, i guess you would have put this poll in muslim forum rather in genral because in this forum im sure nonmuslims also vote which is not fair i think and if you asked nonmuslis they will defintly vote YES

[parvez]

sajid, i guess you would have put this poll in muslim forum rather in genral because ...
Not a wise idea ! Because I can't even find a muslim forum !!! :rubeyes:

[Kh@led]

Whats the thing about islamic/brothers/sisters forums ? Are those hidden or something ?
There's a sub forum within 'Troubleshooting' called 'Request private Forum'. There you can see about the brother/sister forum and you can request access in those having fulfilled some criteria. However, I'm not sure how the admins determine who is really a bro or sis. So, I guess theres a possibility of abusing those :rolleyes:. But I'm not sure about the islamic or the muslim forum and the possible logic behind those :scratch:

[Arsalan]

No.

I think a private area for older bro and older sis is enough. Moderated .

and perhaps we can have a forum for under 5 and under 10s seperately and aunty can moderate that?

[ThE aPpReNtIcE]

lol..i like that idea...but its 18+ adult..right??

[peace2u]

There is moderation option where u can block all posts from getting thru!

it comes to mods where we can approve/decline MEssages from being posted.....so that can cover the issue of "letting things rip"

i think this is the best way to go.


Peace

[Jam]

:salams

lol..i like that idea...but its 18+ adult..right??Actually in Islam, one is generally considered an adult when they reach puberty I believe..

:wswrwb:

[amal]

We could adopt the tv system. There are a small sign like 12 in circle or 16 in circle, that means under this age not have the right to watch the show or movie. We could put a small circle and inside the age and in this way the people would be warned about the content. Its not need a special forum for this because we have little issues to discuss which are above a certain age.
I think its enough the sign because who wants to lie or see something will not be stoped by a sign or private forum interdiction either. I know few friends who are more intersted by whats forbidden . They are more curious. :)

[jimm]

why is it that when topics which require maturity come up (i.e sex) that ppl seem to get all defensive and offended by it?

Each member is responsible for themselves. Now, there are some younger ppl here, but its up to thier parents to educate them as they wish.

As for an adult forum, now, what topics are there that would go in that forum? We already have a bro's and sis's forum for the respective parties.

[Al-Nasser]

As for an adult forum, now, what topics are there that would go in that forum? We already have a bro's and sis's forum for the respective parties.
i will say it again...it happen that someone register at the forum just to ask a question which he can't ask offline and its not rational to ask him to wait one month until he can access the Muslim forum

the "milk" thread and the last thread which raised this topic were both by new users who used their first post to ask embarssing (but legitmate) questions.

[jimm]

i agree, which is another reason why an adult forum is just superflous. Really, what is goin to go on in there? More importantly, how is the age suppose to be ascertained of the users???

[ThE aPpReNtIcE]

" I see" said the blind man to his deaf friend who was giving a high five to his parapalegic friend"...lol..

[Al-Nasser]

" I see" said the blind man to his deaf friend who was giving a high five to his parapalegic friend"...lol..
LOOOL :rotfl:

exactly

[ThE aPpReNtIcE]

lol...thnx..it was the first thing that clicked in my head..

[Mary Carol]

i agree, which is another reason why an adult forum is just superflous. Really, what is goin to go on in there? More importantly, how is the age suppose to be ascertained of the users???

Not sure, but let's try to get a committee of adults together to decide that issue.

Hmmm....

[Ahlam]

Asalamu Alaykum

The idea is discriminating to us youngsters..tsk...are people trying to imply that only older people are mature and able to dicuss certian issues?...*cough* discrimination *cough* :D

[kaleem26]

A complete and emphatic NO! this forum ummah.net aint ready for such a thing too many immature and jahil views flyin about from muslims, plus there are kafirs on this board who would no doubt spill their BS views into it as well, if you have a question ask your sheikh, or knowledgeable brothers and sisters in your area, if you cannot do that then poll here to find out who cannot have access to circles,talks,lectures,sheikhs,da'iees and then address the problem, i bet you 99% of the muslims here have some form of access to a sheikh or knowledgable brothers and sisters and circles in their area.

Please do not set one up brother sajjid.


jazak allah khair.

[Al-Nasser]

Asalamu Alaykum

The idea is discriminating to us youngsters..tsk...are people trying to imply that only older people are mature and able to dicuss certian issues?...*cough* discrimination *cough* :D

proetction not discrimination.....trust me..the whole idea is protecting the youngsters

[Mary Carol]

:salams

Actually in Islam, one is generally considered an adult when they reach puberty I believe..

:wswrwb:

So is there some new software available here that will help us determine each member's advancement in puberty?

Sounds rather intrusive to me. :eek2:

[sajid]

Actually we cud get people to do with 419 Test

http://www.419eater.com/html/trophy_room.htm

:p


(kidding)

[sajid]

Actaully u all got good points there

Yes im for and against it too in Several ways

As kaleem suggested u cud go around asking Sheikhs etc or people u know Personally BUT im pretty sure there are peopel out there too embarassed to ask someone face to face if u know what i mean..

as for people being able to post what they want (if it does go thru ) it will be Moderated heavily IE. Posts being approved before being made publically.....

JKK for all your views....

[abdulhakeem]

how about "accessing" certain parts of the forum with credit card authorization only :rolleyes:

[Mary Carol]

How about a really adult forum for the old fogies?

Say the over 40 crowd?

The typeface could be BIG. :cool:

[yorkshireman]

A complete and emphatic NO! this forum ummah.net aint ready for such a thing too many immature and jahil views flyin about from muslims, plus there are kafirs on this board who would no doubt spill their BS views into it as well, if you have a question ask your sheikh, or knowledgeable brothers and sisters in your area, if you cannot do that then poll here to find out who cannot have access to circles,talks,lectures,sheikhs,da'iees and then address the problem, i bet you 99% of the muslims here have some form of access to a sheikh or knowledgable brothers and sisters and circles in their area.

Please do not set one up brother sajjid.


jazak allah khair.

Another new one! You really do learn some things one here. Kaleem, I, and no doubt many others, would be fascinated to know what the Islamic abreviation "BS" stands for.

[zaynab_1982]

i personally belive it is important to teach young ppl about issues regading this... so they bceme more wise... in the choices they make regards to this topic ... plus it is islam to teach children adults etc.

but it is also important to make this single sex topic... id brother/ and sisters
seperate... as they bother have indidual concerns... and questions.
and ppl can feel confortable asking questions. rarther than feeling shy and yes these forums should be stictly monitord inshallah.

i hope i was of some help inshallah. sister zaynab.

Salams


(quick note things i have said on thsi thread are BLUNT if u dont wanna read then close this now)



it got me thinking after a some posts the other day which have to be shifted containing Grown up material
it got me thinking that these issues exist and no point in Denying or hiding it........if ur not gonna learn about it anywhere where else u gonna know about it? those that are fortunate to have a good islamic education may have learnt about such issues like Sex/Contraception etc or whatever....maybe some people are less fortunate and dont know

by adult forum im not talking about Dodgy Stuff and all...like Talking about your fantasies
So Im up for ideas and all..im stumped on this one so feedback from u guys wud be appreciated

here are some issue:
1) Problem of running it how? we cud either Moderate all posts that goes in and out i.e needing approval that cud be on possibility??

2) who gets access? determing people age etc any gender issue? Shud it be seperate or mixed?

3) Definiation of Adult........nowadays u see 10 yr old getting pregnant and all..some wud say That young person on this forum wud not be suitable for seeing this.....if 10yr old already know on how to get pregnant and all cud something like this not be educational for them so they know the boundaries? (if u know what i mean) So this Age limit is the Biggest problem of all

Please give me ur feedback i will ask the other mods aswell regarding this issue but ive posted to the Users first

RE: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43169&page=1&pp=20&highlight=adult+forum

[ThE aPpReNtIcE]

down with the adult forum

[Songbird]

Am tentatively voting a yes to this one but prefacing it with a "restricted to the Muslims users only".

I actually left this site a while ago due to a certain moderator and his/her deleting my post. If the mods here still exercise such powers , then I think the question you pose Sajid, is somewhat redundant.

Why I think we should have such a forum is simple. I, and I know many other sisters, often have questions we would NEVER ask our Sheikh.

HELLO PEOPLE, Sheikhs are men [!!!!] and there's no bleedin' way on Allah's fine earth, I'm going to approach a MALE to ask my very, VERY personal questions!

Yeah, you can go to that islam.qa site or whatever it's called, but I and a few others are somewhat dubious about the replies we've seen there.

I would like a forum like this -- ie sisters asking other sisters questions, brothers asking brothers -- simply because I like to hear what other women have to say/what their experiences ar/have been, and I like the [b]anonymity aspect. Again, there are questions I have wanted to ask sisters I know in real life, but am always too shy to ask.

So my answer is yes Sajid, so long as I don't get chastised again and that it is strictly monitored.

[ponderingstar]

wow! i have been all about a grown up forum but after reading some of these posts i think i'm changing my mind but i still am not sure....

i agree that children need to learn but i think sometimes we can have posts that are a little shocking. I mean i can imagine me at 10 coming on this site (not that we had internet in those days!! - this is where an old person smilie would come in handy :D ) and being quite shocked at things... like this ----->:eek:

but i suppose that's justa process of growing up, if i hadn't been shocked MANY times whilst growing up i still would not know where babies arriveth from, so i suppose it is inevitable.

so yeah after thinking about thisi think we shoudl continue doing what we do... keep all things on the general forum and if someone sees something highly inappropriate then we can go running of to one of the moderators and be all "ooh ooh sir sir!" or somehting...

[Makki]

so yeah after thinking about thisi think we shoudl continue doing what we do... keep all things on the general forum and if someone sees something highly inappropriate then we can go running of to one of the moderators and be all "ooh ooh sir sir!" or somehting...
instead of an adult forum i propose we just have a "ooh ooh! sir sir!" button :D

PonderingStar corp. has not yet trademarked it so the idea is now the property of Makki inc.

[ze leetle elper]

PonderingStar corp. has not yet trademarked it so the idea is now the property of Makki inc.
Wooo competition :D

[cheeky]

ohh tie btwn yes n no :o

btw..has a decision been made yet?

[Mary Carol]

How about a button that says: "Teacher! Teacher! Johnny did it again!"

[omario]

would not work - how u gonna know who is over 18????

a ten year old can sign up as a 60 year old.

discuss what u have to discuss openly or in pm.

[ponderingstar]

instead of an adult forum i propose we just have a "ooh ooh! sir sir!" button :D

PonderingStar corp. has not yet trademarked it so the idea is now the property of Makki inc.
HEy bro, This is Ms. pondering star and i am in no way connected to PSCorp other than that i use the same channel of communication as them

In my humble opinions (And thisis just opinion for those PSCorp lawyers watching) i think PSCorp is evil. Just as evil as any other corporation fighting for dominance over it.

my two cents :up:

[kaphirgoyim]

>>sajid, i guess you would have put this poll in muslim forum rather in genral because in this forum im sure nonmuslims also vote which is not fair i think and if you asked nonmuslis they will defintly vote YES<<

Interesting that you should bring that up. Well, for the wrong reason, but interesting nonetheless. You see, there are a couple of problems that need to be solved-

#1, poisoning the minds of youth. According to your own beliefs, children should not be allowed to comingle with adults that they don't know. Particularly female children. Therefore, I am all for the seperation.

Here is the problem. Who is going to go out and verify that every tom **** and harry that signs up at the Ummah is properly an adult, or a muslim for that matter.

#2, if everyone is confirmed as not adult, ie. a child, then, at least in WESTERN SOCIETY, it is up to the parents to give permission to participate. In your society, it is obligatory to get the parents permission, is it not, and also obligatory to refuse comingling by minor children with members of the opposite sex who may be adult or children, but who may not have the best interest of the child that the parent or legal guardian shares.

In closing, I believe that the entire forum should be adults only, and that, consumate with the mahrams (or guardian) permission in every case, a childrens forum be created.

Assuming anyone wants to swallow that can of worms now that it has been presented.

That said, I abstain in the voting.

:) Kaph.

[ThE aPpReNtIcE]

true..i can be a 60 yr old makin believe im 18..lol

[sajid]

Salams

hmm never seen such a close call poll ever before thanks to all that voted and all

However there is always the route for those that Voted ...Yes... that i could create one for them and give them access.........Which im sure Those people that Voted ....no..will want access

If i was to Create one it would be

a) Heavily moderated...Not a free for all posting Posts will be Queued and published upon approval

b) Private........similarly to brothers and sissies forum access Gained on Request.


People that have voted so far:

Yes
****PRINCE**** Aftab Al-Nasser Anjum cheeky FleXSiNgH History Islamic outlandish revert-haan ji Roshni sajid Shabab silent_assasin Ssshh... Supinder Singh ThE aPpReNtIcE Tovah Umm Layth Unknown mc 1 Ya$in Zoobz

No
aamilah ABDELWAHAB abdulhakeem AbdulMajid Ahlam Ayah Chained_Water ILM kaleem26 khaled20 Makki mariam Omar omario parvez ponderingstar Resistance slmz :) ys333 zawjaturaafi ze leetle elper

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Kaiser Phoenix CG

[ze leetle elper]

I smell a conspiracy!!!

Look again at the people that voted yes: FleXSiNGh, revert-haan ji, Ssshhh..., Supinder Singh etc- these are all Ummah Chat users, they don't even use the forums! :freedom:

Whereas the 'no' voters are dedicated Ummah addicts :inlove:

[baba]

I think it's a bad idea.

[Ssshh...]

I smell a conspiracy!!!

Look again at the people that voted yes: FleXSiNGh, revert-haan ji, Ssshhh..., Supinder Singh etc- these are all Ummah Chat users, they don't even use the forums! :freedom:

Whereas the 'no' voters are dedicated Ummah addicts :inlove:
Assalaamu alaikum..

hmmm.. actually I DO use forums.. just because I dont have as many posts as the majority of users here does not mean to say that I dont have anything constructive to say..I do actually read through the various threads in the forums in order to gain some understanding but have recently been too busy to actually sit down, think, and reply to some of the interesting posts and the comments made so I go into the chat to just take a break really.. (plus theres sisters in there who are at my uni so easier to ask them questions etc)

I thought it would be a good idea to have an adult forum because I personnaly would rather have an islamic perspective on certain matters with a certain degree of privacy.. I believe one of the sisters wrote above about having the option of going through various websites like qa islam but sometimes you just want a more broader opinion and thats what this adult forum would do...

There are others in here who are saying it should be seperate.. but lets say I was married and there was a problem with my husband.. and I didnt want to discuss this with anyone local etc and needed an islamic opinion or whatever then this forum would be the ideal place because there might be many others out there with the same problem who just dont say anything or do anything because they feel too embarrassed, at least this way they wont feel embarrassed..

Plus if the posts are being moderated then whats the harm? Its not like all these 'chat users' can say what they like etc the way they do in chat.. posts WILL be moderated and therefore theres not much really to worry about other then the age issue..

And as for the age thing, I agree with those who have said its up to the parents to control what there children view on the internet and even the TV!.. If it is a child and they just so happen to come into the adult forum then at least they will be learning about matters from an islamic perspective rather then going into some next site and, well.. we all know what would happen if that was to be the case..

umm and that thing about the milk question.. In my opinion i dont think there was anything wrong with that question.. the brother wanted an answer from a question and that was given but some people in here just went waaay over board.. think about it if none of these 'rude' or 'seemingly irrelevent' questions were not put forth before the Prophet (saw) would be even have the answers to some of the questions posed today??? Somehow I dont think so.. but hey I might be wrong so please correct me if I have said something wrong..:)

Another thing..I might be an ummah chat user too but please do not stereotpye because not all chat users are the same.. and anyways, some mods in here use the chat room too so if they vote yes aswell does that mean the voting is still going to be dodgy?

Everything I have said just now is my personnal opinion and I might be wrong.. if its offended anyone then please find it in your hearts to forgive me because thats the last thing I want to do.. :up:

Walaikum assalaam

[ZawjatuRaafi]

ya know sis i was sitting here looking at it wondering who those people were lol... i was thinking the main posters all pretty much said no except a few. I think maybe just a sub forum for the broes and one for the sisters already admitted to those particular private forums specifically for q&a's should be sufficient. As well Sajid that would mean you would need another admin who is able to look in on the forum almost like ALWAYS to keep moderation of all the posts and that would mean having to find new mods again think of all the extra work all this would be :)I smell a conspiracy!!!

Look again at the people that voted yes: FleXSiNGh, revert-haan ji, Ssshhh..., Supinder Singh etc- these are all Ummah Chat users, they don't even use the forums! :freedom:

Whereas the 'no' voters are dedicated Ummah addicts :inlove:

[ZawjatuRaafi]

whoa shhhh i dont think it was meant to cause offense. I think it just meant that the majority who voted arent really forum users not to say they have never used it.

As well i would hate for anyone to think that any of us here are so knowledgeable that you would come to us over going to a sheikh seriously that is never the best advice...

I think the best thing to do would be just to add a sub forum for that purpose, and if there is something that we feel needs to be answered by the brothers then maybe one of the male mods could post it over in the bros section and after answers have been given it can be placed where it needs to. Something like that.

I just dont see anything but work, coming from this, and no one here is in a position to give out fatwas and I would hate that it became a thing where someone was trying to give them...

[ze leetle elper]

Eek! :eek:

I apologise sis/bro Shhh... I was merely commenting on the fact that I had never seen any of those users post (then again I don't read every thread so I guess I was generalising- I do apologise if it offended you :meow: )

And I agree wholeheartedly with your comment:

think about it if none of these 'rude' or 'seemingly irrelevent' questions were not put forth before the Prophet (saw) would we even have the answers to some of the questions posed today???

Which is why I voted nooooooooo :D

[Ssshh...]

Eek! :eek:

I apologise sis/bro Shhh... I was merely commenting on the fact that I had never seen any of those users post (then again I don't read every thread so I guess I was generalising- I do apologise if it offended you :meow: )

And I agree wholeheartedly with your comment:



Which is why I voted nooooooooo :D
Easy sisters! I wasnt offended in the least.. I was just giving my opinions and nothing else...

Sub-sections idea is alright.. and i know non of you in here are sheikhs but I like knowing what people of different ages and background feel about a subject.. helps me sometimes but thats just me..

[Chained_Water]

I think everything is perfect how it is in this regard and should not be changed.. any changes are completely unneccesary and just create confusion, more problems and more work.

The Q&A-esque section in bro/sis private forums is good for keeping serious stuff and questions relating to Islamic rulings etc in and making them easier to find..

And for any post that is deemed inappropriate for public viewing.. it can be moved to Muslim Forum.

Simple.

[Mary Carol]

Salams

hmm never seen such a close call poll ever before thanks to all that voted and all

However there is always the route for those that Voted ...Yes... that i could create one for them and give them access.........Which im sure Those people that Voted ....no..will want access

If i was to Create one it would be

a) Heavily moderated...Not a free for all posting Posts will be Queued and published upon approval

b) Private........similarly to brothers and sissies forum access Gained on Request.


People that have voted so far:

Yes
****PRINCE**** Aftab Al-Nasser Anjum cheeky FleXSiNgH History Islamic outlandish revert-haan ji Roshni sajid Shabab silent_assasin Ssshh... Supinder Singh ThE aPpReNtIcE Tovah Umm Layth Unknown mc 1 Ya$in Zoobz

No
aamilah ABDELWAHAB abdulhakeem AbdulMajid Ahlam Ayah Chained_Water ILM kaleem26 khaled20 Makki mariam Omar omario parvez ponderingstar Resistance slmz :) ys333 zawjaturaafi ze leetle elper

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Kaiser Phoenix CG

:rolleyes:

I don't recall giving my permission to make my vote public.

[slmz :)]

vote noooooooooooooo

[Bilquis]

LOL, what do you mean by 'adult'? I didn't think this was that kind of site.

[Ahlam]

proetction not discrimination.....trust me..the whole idea is protecting the youngsters
I stopped being a younster when i realised i had to work in order to earn living (o.k so what if i'm exaggerating....do i see anyone who cares)

quite frankly i don't care.....i would be counted as an adult anyways *ahem* dare to argue otherwise and you won't see dusk:ragepc:

[Al-Nasser]

I stopped being a younster when i realised i had to work in order to earn living (o.k so what if i'm exaggerating....do i see anyone who cares)
i have been involved with a gang when i was 16 years old
life is tough, comarde :rolleyes:

quite frankly i don't care.....i would be counted as an adult anyways *ahem* dare to argue otherwise and you won't see dusk:ragepc:

1...2....and :outta: 3

[ZawjatuRaafi]

DID BILQUIS just pop in????:rubeyes: Nice to see ya...

LOL, what do you mean by 'adult'? I didn't think this was that kind of site.

[Ahlam]

i have been involved with a gang when i was 16 years old
life is tough, comarde :rolleyes:


and i thought you woz a good little boy....psst...my bad:rolleyes:


1...2....and :outta: 3
run for your life i tell you....run

i have proven myself worthy as an 'adult' :D

[slmz :)]

NAA I DNT c da point of gangs.. no offence... u hav to do all these stupid stuff to get in... i jus stik to ny1 and evry1

[Mary Carol]

Sajid?

What have you decided?

[Phoenix CG]

ROFL teh way it was said ... An ADULT section sounds like something dodgy...its not the matrimonial part of the site that sajjids always wanted is it :P LOL just kiddin...rofl really does sound dodgy tho...

'Enter now, Adults only'
ROFLLLLLLLLLLL

[Bilquis]

DID BILQUIS just pop in????:rubeyes: Nice to see ya...
Assalamu alaikum sister Z,

I hope you, the brother and all family are in excellent Eeman and Health InshaAllah. LOL, yep I did. JAK for remembering your humble ukht. I'm very glad to see that you're still here. I love you for the sake of Allah SWT.

[Ya$in]

Yes
****PRINCE**** Aftab Al-Nasser Anjum cheeky FleXSiNgH History Islamic outlandish revert-haan ji Roshni sajid Shabab silent_assasin Ssshh... Supinder Singh ThE aPpReNtIcE Tovah Umm Layth Unknown mc 1 Ya$in Zoobz Hey my name shouldn't be there, i was forced.. honestly (i dont even know wot i voted for :s)

[.: Anna :.]

noooo bad idea.
we have bro and sis forums, those are fine for this purpose

[Haz]

noooo bad idea.
we have bro and sis forums, those are fine for this purpose

Do we have a bro and sis forums? never seen it

[mara]

Do we have a bro and sis forums? never seen it
Yuo need to ask for access :)

[Mustafa83]

well when i have a adult question I post it in the brothers forum cause I know my fellow brothers will understand me and it is more polite to talk about it with them then in front of any sisters or any other people visiting ummah. So I dont think we need one because thats one of the reasons why we have the brother and sister forum.

[INZAMAM]

No
What Does Adult Forum Mean-
The Name Itself Looks Bad
Adult-western Type Name
We Can Have A Forum For Ladies Exclusively But Not Adult Forum

[MMS]

sajid stop thinking about adult stuff astaghfirullah

go and take a cold shower or fast or something

:up:

[.: Anna :.]

No
What Does Adult Forum Mean-
The Name Itself Looks Bad
Adult-western Type Name
We Can Have A Forum For Ladies Exclusively But Not Adult Forumalready we have sisters and brothers forum like that

[.: Rashid :.]

sajid stop thinking about adult stuff astaghfirullah

go and take a cold shower or fast or something

:up:

:wacko:

I think the brothers forum is fine...although I'm still too embarassed to ask questions there :embar: *sigh*

-Rashid

[Niqaabi]

if there are posts concerning social issues, in lifestyle board.
if there are posts concering women issues for only women, in *Deep husky voice* The Ladies Room
if there are posts concerning manly issues for only men, in the dudes board
if there are posts concerning muslims and only muslims, in muslim board
if there are stupid posts and rude idiotic posts, lol in the bin lol
theres no need for an adult board. however there maybe a need for an anti-mod lounge? :D

[sajid]

y is this discussion still going on lol? we decided it was a no in the end this thread is over 9 months old :p

[.: Anna :.]

shall we close the thread then sajid?

[Al-Dhikr]

As Salaamu Alaikum,

I used to be an admin on trust islam (http://www.trustislam.com/studiobb/), before I had a falling out. I implemented something like what you speak of, well it could cater for it. I made a forum called "Counselling," enabled guest postings, but each post had to go through the moderation queue before it was visible to the rest of the members. The advantage being regular members could post anonymously, and freely ask for help on personal problems.

Might be an idea.

Ma'aSalaama

[Al-Dhikr]

As Salaamu Alaikum,

I see you've adopted my idea, Allahu alim maybe it's just coincidence. But there really isn't any need to moderate posts i.e. responses. Thread/Topic moderation should be enough.

Ma'aSalaama

[ummbilal]

No.

I think a private area for older bro and older sis is enough. Moderated .

and perhaps we can have a forum for under 5 and under 10s seperately and aunty can moderate that?


lol at ^^^

seriously, i dont think we need an adult forum, if kids are on here and can ask questions about adult issues, eg contaception, sexual relations etc. that they cannot ask parents etc..
surely that can only be a good thing, rather than someone saying, forincation isnt haram its just frowned upon, or similar at college/school and confusing them, trust me u wouldnt believe some of the rubbish i've heard, eg its not haram if u dont go all the way..???????

let them find knowlage here,

ps i wont be letting my 10 year old on for a few years though!

[Shadow]

As Salaamu Alaikum,

I see you've adopted my idea, Allahu alim maybe it's just coincidence. But there really isn't any need to moderate posts i.e. responses. Thread/Topic moderation should be enough.

Ma'aSalaama
We tried to implement the anonymous posting facitlity on an earlier version, but due to some bugs we had, it was abandoned.

Since we have updated the forum version it seems to work fine now, Alhamdulillah. Your initial post just reminded me of the anonymous posting forum, Jazakallahu Khayr.

In the past we have had many threads created by people asking for help/advice. Some of these threads just became really silly with users posting imature and irrelevant stuff. This is what we really want to avoid so currently the Admins/Mods feel all posts should be moderated for the time being.


Anonymous Posting Forum (http://www.ummah.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=153)

[kaphirgoyim]

Can we have a 2-3 yo forum. I can think of a couple of users......

:).

[PaGaL~LaDo0]

N0 Cmnt Hahahahah L0ol I Aint Brdrd :d

[Refugee]

N0 Cmnt Hahahahah L0ol I Aint Brdrd :d

i think that 2-3 yrs old forum will suit your personality :D :up:

[ThE aPpReNtIcE]

screw it..we got our bros/sis's forums..nothing else we need

[Refugee]

screw it..we got our bros/sis's forums..nothing else we need

how about one for the kuffars :rolleyes:

[silkworm]

I will go with Chained water as some people might start dumping some not so suitable material on this thread plus the sanctity of this forum will seriously lose its credibility. Somebody wanna discuss abnoxious matters, the yahoo hct rooms are always open.

[Arsalan]

how about one for the kuffars :rolleyes:

Good point, make a seperate section for them there, and keep em confined. SO we all live in peace.

Segregation .:up:

[Lambo5688]

Are there really 10 year olds on this forum?

[Na'eemah]

Are there really 10 year olds on this forum?

Someone has put the age of seven on their profile, but I doubt they are really7. :torture:

[Abu 'Abdullaah]

I'm all for this, except I'd do it a little differently. Instead of an adult forum, let's have a children's forum. Anyone who posts excessive smilies, LOLs and txt spk can be locked up in there for a bit until they learn to communicate like a grown up. LOLZ!!!1

[Miss-Neurofen]

^^ Aye to that!!

[Cartman]

I'm all for this, except I'd do it a little differently. Instead of an adult forum, let's have a children's forum. Anyone who posts excessive smilies, LOLs and txt spk can be locked up in there for a bit until they learn to communicate like a grown up. LOLZ!!!1

Lol, AA, yr s sly!!!!!!!!!

[Abu 'Abdullaah]

lolz, ya digg ?

[Rouz]

shall we close the thread then sajid?

Lol, yes please do as i thought it was still relevant to now and have just wasted a load of time reading through a load of posts before posting my opinion, to find out this thread is old

[muslimma]

i think once bros and sistas get access to the bro/ sis sections they can geenerlaly have the opp to post such things in their....maybe have an annoymous section in there so if bro/sis would be a bit embrarrsed thy could just post anno..

[nami]

But that doesn't stop children under teens from reading things they are considered for adults.

[Phoenix CG]

a kinky forum whilst you're at it as well :p kidding kidding!

[Kasim2k7]

phoenix:smack:

[tickledpinko]

How can there be an age limit??

There are 16 year olds who are married or getting married and will benefit from 'adult' topics.

There are 30 year olds who aren't married and will not benefit from 'adult' topics (unless they're marrying soon).


Rather than having an age limit why not restrict it to married or soon-to-be married people only. That's not easy though, then again having an age limit restriction isn't easy either. Anyone can lie about age or marital status.

[.: Anna :.]

How can there be an age limit??

There are 16 year olds who are married or getting married and will benefit from 'adult' topics.

There are 30 year olds who aren't married and will not benefit from 'adult' topics (unless they're marrying soon).


Rather than having an age limit why not restrict it to married or soon-to-be married people only. That's not easy though, then again having an age limit restriction isn't easy either. Anyone can lie about age or marital status.

well thats like our sis one innit, if they were 12 and married i'll stil let em in :p

[Safiyyah89]

let people ask adult questions in an Islamic forum to get honest Islamic answers rather than they ask in some bad forum where they will get bad un Islamic advises.

and remeber the prophet :saw: said that there should not be shame when discussing religious matters.

of course the adult forum will be split into two forums...and the sisters one will be very restricted i guess...as for the brothers froum i believe it should be open for new comers.....for example a guy who is searching for the Islamic view on some embarssing matter and registered in Ummah forums to ask....its not rational to ask him to wait one month to ask the question..imho

i like this idea mashallah:up:

i say have an adult question, but make it seperate plz, do NOT have bros and sisters together, thats just wrong:torture:

but i do agree we need this on here:up:

[Believer1984]

Asalaam

No need, even children need to seek knowledge so they can be mentally prepared and grow with understanding.

You should not abandon when knowledge is to be shared.

There is no shyness/embarrasment in Islam and there was no shyness/embarrasment when the Prophet discussed such matters.

So please avoid having one.

Peace.:o

w.s

[Safiyyah89]

Asalaam

No need, even children need to seek knowledge so they can be mentally prepared and grow with understanding.

You should not abandon when knowledge is to be shared.

There is no shyness/embarrasment in Islam and there was no shyness/embarrasment when the Prophet discussed such matters.

So please avoid having one.

Peace.:o

w.s



dont u think tho, certain things are too much info to give to someone who is not getting married:rubeyes:

[Believer1984]

dont u think tho, certain things are too much info to give to someone who is not getting married:rubeyes:

Asalaam

The one who is not married will be married one day and thus will be prepared.

Some people here do it in a mature approach while some do it in a cyber silly way.

Mods should be wise and know which ones sound silly , so they can delete it.

A muslim learns through maturity.

Best of all they could label threads with a adult sign warning so one knows not to read on etc.

But never abandon any young ones as young ones have the right to learn and understand.

Peace.:o

w.s

[Safiyyah89]

Asalaam

The one who is not married will be married one day and thus will be prepared.

Some people here do it in a mature approach while some do it in a cyber silly way.

Mods should be wise and know which ones sound silly , so they can delete it.

A muslim learns through maturity.

Best of all they could label threads with a adult sign warning so one knows not to read on etc.

But never abandon any young ones as young ones have the right to learn and understand.

Peace.:o

w.s


yea... ur right mashallah:up: