The M word?

[nam]

Sallaam

It has been noticed of late that the m word has been used a lot on the forum. SO much so it could be very easily argued that members are obsessed with the m word.

I am here to ask the administrators to put a moritorium on the m word. Further, ban all members mentioning the m word and then making sure they take a cold bath before they are allowed to return to this forum (The bath system will work on a honesty basis).

It is very distressing to see the youth of the ummah get caught up with the m word. They should be out getting the attention of police, farting in public places, sleeping, eating, playing golf in public parks, making car and motorbike noises when they walk, laughing uncontrollably on a bus, buying a salad sandwich and then throw all the salad out and put some meat on there, and finally, eating again.

Allah HAfiz

Nam ("Content or no content, its the content that we contextualise" 24/08/04)

[Jam]

Mmmmmm?

[Latifa]

Sallaam

It has been noticed of late that the m word has been used a lot on the forum. SO much so it could be very easily argued that members are obsessed with the m word.

I am here to ask the administrators to put a moritorium on the m word. Further, ban all members mentioning the m word and then making sure they take a cold bath before they are allowed to return to this forum (The bath system will work on a honesty basis).

It is very distressing to see the youth of the ummah get caught up with the m word. They should be out getting the attention of police, farting in public places, sleeping, eating, playing golf in public parks, making car and motorbike noises when they walk, laughing uncontrollably on a bus, buying a salad sandwich and then throw all the salad out and put some meat on there, and finally, eating again.

Allah HAfiz

Nam ("Content or no content, its the content that we contextualise" 24/08/04)
LOL ! :nuts:

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams


ROFL!!!

:D
btw what M word....i don't c no M word :rolleyes: :D
:salams

[Mary Carol]

btw what M word....i don't c no M word...

Mushy, of course. :D

[Al-Nasser]

brothers and sisters.

the M word nam is talking about is "M***n"..hmm...the word which is close in meaning to "idiot"!!..figure it yourselves..i'm not gonna say it..i don't feel like having a cold bath.

[.: Anna :.]

I thought he was talking about.....

MARRIAGE

:scratch:

[Ebony]

I thought he was talking about.....

MARRIAGE

:scratch:
:eek: :eek:

oh no...uv uttered the WORD! ~dramatic music~

[Mary Carol]

I thought he was talking about.....

MARRIAGE

:scratch:

He was...and he does...much more often than some of the sisters here....hmmm, I wonder what that means?

[.: Anna :.]

He was...and he does...much more often than some of the sisters here....hmmm, I wonder what that means?

probly means he's desparate 4 it, jst dsnt wanna admit :rolleyes: :p

[jamila]

I Don't know bout the M word but the W word's a bit strong here-abouts too. Perhaps we should censure (or is that censor?) both!

[Ebony]

W word? :scratch: Wedding?

[.: Anna :.]

I Don't know bout the M word but the W word's a bit strong here-abouts too. Perhaps we should censure (or is that censor?) both!w@s the W word? wedding? :confused:

[Mary Carol]

I Don't know bout the M word but the W word's a bit strong here-abouts too. Perhaps we should censure (or is that censor?) both!

Censorship won't work.

Have you ever read a thesaurus?

The possibilities are endless. ;)

[.: Anna :.]

Censorship won't work.

Have you ever read a thesaurus?

The possibilities are endless. ;)

plus u can just spell the word wrong.... and its sorted ;)

[Mary Carol]

plus u can just spell the word wrong.... and its sorted ;)

Easy for you, but I was raised by a mother who was a schoolteacher, who was raised by a schoolteacher...they made my spelling habits compulsive.

:(

[.: Anna :.]

Easy for you, but I was raised by a mother who was a schoolteacher, who was raised by a schoolteacher...they made my spelling habits compulsive.

:(

dnt worry... i'm sure wiv a bit of training u cn spell as badly as ne of the rest of us :D

now.... repeat after me....

"my mam woz a teecher...."

[Peace]

ban all members mentioning the m word

Marriage is not a word – it’s a sentence :D

[seven]

Marriage is not a word – it’s a sentence :D :rotfl:

that's why i'm ur biggest fan hassan :D

[Mary Carol]

Marriage is not a word – it’s a sentence :D

Odd then, that so many volunteer? :)

[.: Anna :.]

Marriage is not a word – it’s a sentence :D

:rofl1:

[Peace]

:rotfl:

that's why i'm ur biggest fan hassan :D

LOL!!!!!

Just kidding Seven my dear bro - I sincerely wish you and Zee all the happiness - there is nothing better in this stupid world than marriage and sharing your life with someone you love and insha-Allah having lots of wonderful children to give your heart and home joy and laughter :)

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams

Marriage is not a word – it’s a sentence :D
Life sentance? :nervous:

Or cn we be relased on bail? :p

:salams

[Chained_Water]

i think the W word might be "word" because thats the word has been said most in this thread about a certain M word :eek2:

[Peace]

Or can we be released on bail? :p

No Bail or respite. Marriage is about 3 Rings;

Engagement Ring, Wedding Ring and Suffer Ring!

[Peace]

Just kidding ;)

[Chained_Water]

:rofl1:

hassan, please stop

[Peace]

"If you'll make the toast and pour the juice, sweetheart," said the newlywed Zee, "breakfast will be ready."

"Good," said Seven "What are we having for breakfast?"

"Toast and juice," replied Zee :D

[Chained_Water]

:rotfl:

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams


:rotfl:

I must say br Hassan ur humour is splendid :up:

:salams

[ze leetle elper]

"If you'll make the toast and pour the juice, sweetheart," said the newlywed Zee, "breakfast will be ready."

"Good," said Seven "What are we having for breakfast?"

"Toast and juice," replied Zee :D
I just saw my life flash before my eyes. :p

[Pak4Ever]

Sallaam

It has been noticed of late that the m word has been used a lot on the forum. SO much so it could be very easily argued that members are obsessed with the m word.

I am here to ask the administrators to put a moritorium on the m word. Further, ban all members mentioning the m word and then making sure they take a cold bath before they are allowed to return to this forum (The bath system will work on a honesty basis).

It is very distressing to see the youth of the ummah get caught up with the m word. They should be out getting the attention of police, farting in public places, sleeping, eating, playing golf in public parks, making car and motorbike noises when they walk, laughing uncontrollably on a bus, buying a salad sandwich and then throw all the salad out and put some meat on there, and finally, eating again.

Allah HAfiz

Nam ("Content or no content, its the content that we contextualise" 24/08/04) No body has a clue what you are talking.

[EDITED DUE TO INAPPROPIATE CONTENT- Admin note: Do NOT attempt to do that again]

Alternatively Ban them all (i.e. Edit my Thread! and we will all get the message ;) )

[Mary Carol]

"If you'll make the toast and pour the juice, sweetheart," said the newlywed Zee, "breakfast will be ready."

"Good," said Seven "What are we having for breakfast?"

"Toast and juice," replied Zee :D

Dead on.

So you can predict the future? ;)

[Chained_Water]

Pak4Eva.. :rubeyes:

where on earth did all that just come from? you're off by a mile; this thread is nothing to do with swearing, and your post is ridiculous

anyone care to delete it?

[Khuzamah]

yeah that reply was kinda :wacko:

[Pak4Ever]

Fair enough, now we get the message ;)

But that post was neccessary so we know where we stand.

For those of you who missed it :rolleyes: I simply wrote the swearwords i felt needed to be banned like the F word and said - Ban it!

I did have a feeling it would be edited, no problem, but i hope the words i asked to be banned in that post are also edited or banned.

Including the word Paki - which all of you seem to throw around without hesitation. Yet you ban a word that is just as offensive towards black people begining with N - now where is the logic in that?

[Chained_Water]

i think you'll find that most people on this forum who use the word Paki, are themselves Pakistani and do not use it in a racist tone.. it's just a lot shorter to type, the same way we might write Brits instead of britons or british people..

i don't find it in the slightest bit offensive and my parents are from Pakistan..
it's only offensive if used in an offensive context

[Pak4Ever]

i think you'll find that most people on this forum who use the word Paki, are themselves Pakistani and do not use it in a racist tone.. it's just a lot shorter to type, the same way we might write Brits instead of britons or british people..

i don't find it in the slightest bit offensive and my parents are from Pakistan..
it's only offensive if used in an offensive context That has to be the single biggest set of utter RUBBISH i have ever heard.

I am more offended by your pathetic justification post then the actual word now :freedom:

There is no justification for Racism. The word Paki is racist. Yet people on here continue to use. It is even encouraged by the Admins. I find it disgusting.

You will find most people who use the N word are Black! Does that make it okay? You call a guy a N-i-g-g-e-r (see i cant even type it! talk about double standards) on the street, and no matter how "respectfully" you say it i can promise you will get a punch in the face 90% of the time. Same with the word Paki, you say it to some people and they would literally try to slit your throat.

Go look in a dictionary here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=paki) "Used as a disparaging term for a person from Pakistan or neighboring countries or for the descendant of such a person"

Pakistani is not a offensive term.
Black is not a offensive term.
Jew is not a offensive term.

But the words
"Paki"
"Ni-gger"
"****"

are all offensive and racist swearwords.

why the hell does anyone have to campaign to get a racist swearword banned? (not even banned just edited so Paki automatically comes out as Pakistani like on most forums)

either you should add **** and Paki to the banned list, or remove the N word from it. Why have double standards and such a dual policy for words of a similar, offensive, nature? (I sure have a good explantion in a mind but if i say it, i think the Admins would get offended and it would reveal just how racist they really are).

[Chained_Water]

excuse me.. but as a person of PAKI descent, I beg to differ..

I said that I personally do not find it offensive in and of itself.. and that is it ONLY offensive if used in such a context

is that so hard to understand?

and I do not see how that constitutes as justifying racism

would you say that the shortened PAK in your username is offensive? why not? does an "I" make that huge a difference.. surely you've written PAK because it is shorter?
just like BRIT is shorter than Briton or British

God only knows why you're going off on one.. I think perhaps your nationalistic pride is getting to your head, because I don't know how you figured that I am condoning racism just because I do not think the word Paki is necessarily offensive, but rather that depends on it's usage

[Pak4Ever]

excuse me.. but as a person of PAKI descent, I beg to differ..

I said that I personally do not find it offensive in and of itself.. and that is it ONLY offensive if used in such a context

is that so hard to understand?

and I do not see how that constitutes as justifying racism

would you say that the shortened PAK in your username is offensive? why not? does an "I" make that huge a difference.. surely you've written PAK because it is shorter?
just like BRIT is shorter than Briton or British

God only knows why you're going off on one.. I think perhaps your nationalistic pride is getting to your head, because I don't know how you figured that I am condoning racism just because I do not think the word Paki is necessarily offensive, but rather that depends on it's usage you claim to be of Pakistani decent, i dont know that? can you proove it? NO! just like i cant proove it. But it makes no difference whatsoever as far as the forum policy is concerned.

and yes the "I" makes a difference. just like the "G" makes a difference when you add it to NIGER (which is the name of a country) - its a completely different meaning.

ofcourse it depends on its useage. We hear the N word in the media, in music, in films but that doesnt mean its not offensive. Just because its not offensive to YOU doesnt mean its not offensive to other people.

There may be people on this forum who dont find it offensive, but i can take you on other forums where people will BAN you for saying it more then once!

Bottom line is no matter how you feel about it, its a offensive term that should not be thrown around and encouraged on this forum.

My issue is more with the Administration then with you, so i ask you dont interfere and try to justify it - that is all.

[Chained_Water]

maybe PAK is offensive to some people and YOU should be banned for having it in your username.. and maybe we should ban all abbreviations or any words that may possibly be used in an offensive manner.. but then what do you ban and what don't you ban.. some people might find the word banana offensive ..and then some people might use perfectly good words in an offensive manner.. in the way that some people use the word "JEW" in an offensive manner..

it depends on usage, like I said before.. if people say "dirty JEWS" or "dirty PAKI'S" then obviously their intention is to be offensive.. and if that is the case I'm sure the Administration will do something about it.. in fact I remember a certain case where sis Jamilah I think it was edited offensive posts like that..

so basically you are kickingup a fuss over nothing.. if you have a problem with the administration why don't you post a thread in the section specifically set aside for FORUM issues.. and bring your examples of where the Administration has been unfair about something..

i can see what you're saying and it could be argued both ways.. but i don't think there is any problem in this forum

P.S. why would I lie about being of Pakistani descent.. it's not exactly something worth lying about

[Pak4Ever]

maybe PAK is offensive to some people and YOU should be banned for having it in your username.. and maybe we should ban all abbreviations or any words that may possibly be used in an offensive manner.. but then what do you ban and what don't you ban.. some people might find the word banana offensive ..and then some people might use perfectly good words in an offensive manner.. in the way that some people use the word "JEW" in an offensive manner..

it depends on usage, like I said before.. if people say "dirty JEWS" or "dirty PAKI'S" then obviously their intention is to be offensive.. and if that is the case I'm sure the Administration will do something about it.. in fact I remember a certain case where sis Jamilah I think it was edited offensive posts like that..

so basically you are kickingup a fuss over nothing.. if you have a problem with the administration why don't you post a thread in the section specifically set aside for FORUM issues.. and bring your examples of where the Administration has been unfair about something..

i can see what you're saying and it could be argued both ways.. but i don't think there is any problem in this forum

P.S. why would I lie about being of Pakistani descent.. it's not exactly something worth lying about
you get more pathetic per post - seriously your just being childish now. You know full well the word PAK is not offensive. If you were really a Pakistani you would also know it simply means PURE.

Paki is quite different. Do i have to repeat myself a million times? I explained that Paki is offensive in the same way that Nig-ger and **** are offensive.

"I'm sure the Administration will do something about it"

Oh yeah! Im sure we can rely on your hero Abu Mubarak, With self-hating Pakistanis like Abdul Qadeer for backup. :rolleyes:

Incase your wondering i have already made it clear to the Administration, THEY WILL DO NOTHING! They couldent give 2 jacks about Pakistanis in general. My personal view is that this board is either run by Indians or Arab Supremacists - it wouldent suprise me in the least.

[Chained_Water]

hmmm.. and i know this could turn into a huge can of worms.. cuz there are flaws in sides of the argument..
but i still think there is no problem in this forum and so this does not need to be made into a big thing..

ESPECIALLY not in a thread about marriage -offtopic:

[JiHaD_JoE]

That has to be the single biggest set of utter RUBBISH i have ever heard.

I am more offended by your pathetic justification post then the actual word now :freedom:

There is no justification for Racism. The word Paki is racist. Yet people on here continue to use. It is even encouraged by the Admins. I find it disgusting.

You will find most people who use the N word are Black! Does that make it okay? You call a guy a N-i-g-g-e-r (see i cant even type it! talk about double standards) on the street, and no matter how "respectfully" you say it i can promise you will get a punch in the face 90% of the time. Same with the word Paki, you say it to some people and they would literally try to slit your throat.

Go look in a dictionary here (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=paki) "Used as a disparaging term for a person from Pakistan or neighboring countries or for the descendant of such a person"

Pakistani is not a offensive term.
Black is not a offensive term.
Jew is not a offensive term.

But the words
"Paki"
"Ni-gger"
"****"

are all offensive and racist swearwords.

why the hell does anyone have to campaign to get a racist swearword banned? (not even banned just edited so Paki automatically comes out as Pakistani like on most forums)

either you should add **** and Paki to the banned list, or remove the N word from it. Why have double standards and such a dual policy for words of a similar, offensive, nature? (I sure have a good explantion in a mind but if i say it, i think the Admins would get offended and it would reveal just how racist they really are).
OH MY GOSH! you are so random, geeze no one even said that word in this thread and you go and give us a whole lecture about it, your Pakistani, fine just dont go parading it around and telling us stuff. before you came ive never seen the word "paki" written here. it only started to occur after your name and people only use it cause you egg it on by giving your nationality (which to most people seems arogant) just give it a break already! :rolleyes:

[Al-Nasser]

there is nothing wrong about using a name which refer to your country...nothing is bad about loving your country and being proud of it but when it turn to be Nationalism (a form of racism) then it's wrong.

also remember there were names like Salman Al Farisi "Salman The Persian" & Suhayb Al Rumi "Suhayb the Roman" among the prophet Companions. and no one complained it is offensive as their nicknames included the names of the two anti-Islam empires.

[Chained_Water]

oh please grow up.. you are complaining about a non-existant problem without ANY specific examples

as for the word n*gger, i would not use it myself because I personally think it is offensive coming from a non-black person.. because it has always been historically..

however there are black people who use that word and they even use it as a term of endearment to their friends etc.. and I couldn't really care less if they do, thats upto them.. because the black person to black person use of it has never been thought of as offensive and historically hasn't been in a racist context, but has just sprung up in recent times in a non-offensive usage.. but non-black to black usage will ALWAYS seem inappropriate because of the history of non-blacks using it towards blacks..

in the same way Pakistani people DO use it amongst themselves, but white Britons have always used it in a racist way.. so it would seem offensive from them.. but when my Pakistani friend says the word Paki in a conversation I do not find it in the slight bit offensive..

P.S. hope you don't mind me asking.. but are you actually Pakistani.. i.e. BORN or LIVING in Pakistan?

[Chained_Water]

My personal view is that this board is either run by Indians or Arab Supremacists - it wouldent suprise me in the least.

WOW

i just reread that.. unbelievable.. (or maybe not coming from someone with a name like PAK4EVER)

are you making a racist generalisation about Arabs and Indians by trying to IMPLY that they are racist towards Pakistani's?

[Chained_Water]

OH MY GOSH! ... just give it a break already! :rolleyes:
:up:

[nam]

Sallaam

Why is it that i miss out on all the fun?

And why is it that this thread has been hijacked? Paki4ever, what did u write, i would like to know.

Hmm, as for the use of the term Paki, well, it depends on personal use. I would also be offended if someone called me pakistani even though i was from Pakistan.

Allah AHfiz

NAm ("55" 25/08/04)

[Chained_Water]

Sallaam
I would also be offended if someone called me pakistani even though i was from Pakistan.

Allah AHfiz

NAm ("55" 25/08/04)

:rotfl: oh dear god..

[JiHaD_JoE]

My personal view is that this board is either run by Indians or Arab Supremacists - it wouldent suprise me in the least.
:rolleyes: yeah those arabs nationalist moderators every chance they get they just jump around yelling "wahda huriyya ishtarakiyya!"

[nam]

Sallaam

i have thought about what i have said and i would like to amend this thread.

The term Paki should also be banned or edited becuase

its completely unfair for anyone to accuse anyone else from originating from Pakistan.

Allah HAfiz

Nam ("lolololol - ahem, there was a snake in my house" 25/08/04)

[Abdullah al-Muhajir]

People who live in Afghanistan are known as Afghan. Similarly, those who hail from Pakistan are known as Pak.

I agree with al-Nasser, there is nothing wrong with showing feelings for your country. But as there is a limit to everything, there must a limit to such emotions too. I would advise Pak4Ever to ignore that little voice in his head, and forget the conspiracy theories which the little voice teaches. ;)

[Khuzamah]

:rofl1: @ nam

btw Pak4ever some people have been banned b4 wen they used that word I thnk, bt mainly non muslim racist ppl coming 2 cause trouble....

[ze leetle elper]

Well I'm half Pak, and I don't find it the least bit offensive. You cannot compare the word *Paki* to that of nigg-er because they are attributed to completely different things. Whereas the word nigg-er is in regards to a person's colour (which if used offensively is considered racism) the word *Paki* is just an abbreviated version of Pakistani...a background or culture.

I don't find it offensive if someone calls me a Brit, so why the difference? It is only offensive if used in that context, as sis Chained said. People put too much emphasis on the word *Paki* relating to a persons race/ colour. When it simply is nothing more than a background/ nationality.

:freedom:

[reachin'out]

@ nam



btw Pak4ever some people have been banned b4 wen they used that word I thnk, bt mainly non muslim racist ppl coming 2 cause trouble....Actually, we used to ban beople for using the P word (and might do so again, in the future, if there is a call for it). Muslim Youth suffered the indignity of such a ban, if I remember rightly, as well as a few other Muslims (racist or not), as well as the non-Muslim racists. :) That was funny, :rotfl: . She was so indignant - and became a discussion point for weeks :) .

[Chained_Water]

is Muslim Youth not Pakistani herself? I thought she was for some reason :scratch:

[jamila]

is Muslim Youth not Pakistani herself? I thought she was for some reason :scratch:That's what makes it even funnier. Why do you think she was so indignant!! ;)

[outlandish]

yeah she is pakistani. I remember there is always so much fuss over the p word. WHy not make a rule wether its allowed or not,and there wont be so much trouble over it.

[Chained_Water]

That's what makes it even funnier. Why do you think she was so indignant!! ;)

:rotfl:

:up: @MuslimYouth

:D

[Abdullah al-Muhajir]

Wow, I never knew Pakistanis had so much self-respect. :D

{Just constructive criticism from a fellow brother to his Pak siblings. ;)}

[Chained_Water]

i still don't think its a big deal..

i think the official position should be it's O.K unless it's said in an offensive context.. in which case it should be edited out and the user should be formally warned and if they repeat offend: banned..

problemo solved :D

[Mary Carol]

I have never heard the term "Paki" used over here in the States, unless it was combined with an obscene modifier.

The type of person (and I use that term loosely) that would use it to describe a person of Pakistani descent would also have no qualms calling anyone else who does not fit into his tiny world view with equally if not more offensive descriptive terms...that's the reality I see over here.

It would be nice if we lived in a world where words were not intentionally used to hurt each other, but we are not that fortunate.

If a word offends anyone, even Pak4Ever, I see no reason for us to continue it's use.

I'd rather err on the side of caution where feelings are concerned.

[Pak4Ever]

I knew exactly that this was going to happen.

although im suprised the big boys (Abdul Qadeer, Abu Mubarak) havent joined in yet - maybe they missed it?

But im not here to debate with you people about the word Paki. You all know full well what is offensive and what isnt. You also know that calling someone a Paki, a N-igger, a **** are all in the same league.

Yet you call me a Paki without hesistation (nam did it again on purpose in this thread), its nothing to you anymore.

you put up, to show you are righteous and pious but inside your hard hearted and inconsiderate of other peoples (other Muslims) feelings.

what happened to the Quranic ayah which commands the believers not to call each other names? especially names which they find offensive?

But obviously this boards upholds the banner of racism and looks down on certain races, that is very obvious. It is not entirely the fault of the Admins either - they have a popularity dilema to consider. Since it seems a good chunk of the posters are racist the Admins follow suite.

But i just pray the day comes when you say it to the wrong person, then you can debate with them if it should or shouldent be taken offensively.

[Al-Nasser]

what happened to the Quranic ayah which commands the believers not to call each other names? especially names which they find offensive?

O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.
49:11

[ze leetle elper]

Brother, if you find the name offensive, then simply say so- and inshaallah users won't name you with it.

But two wrongs don't make a right.

If someone called you a *Paki*, just tell them you don't wish to be called by so, but turning around and accusing others, is just as shameful and insultive.

Why this obsession with AbuMubarak and Abdul Qadeer who have not even SPOKEN on this thread!!

You are now just as bad, because you are INTENTIONALLY saying these things.

you put up, to show you are righteous and pious but inside your hard hearted and inconsiderate of other peoples (other Muslims) feelings.

But obviously this boards upholds the banner of racism and looks down on certain races, that is very obvious. It is not entirely the fault of the Admins either - they have a popularity dilema to consider. Since it seems a good chunk of the posters are racist the Admins follow suite

This is an extremely strong accusation- I hope you are able to answer Allah when He asks you about this.

[Al-Nasser]

th M word is misunderstanding.

[Peace]

banana

I object to the B word used above - please refer to it as the "Tender soft fruit that comes in it's own little yellow Jacket" - in future!

[Peace]

th M word is misunderstanding.

It sure is Al Nasser!

I think 99% of the worlds problems comes from the fact that we human beings mis-understand each other!

We talk past each other. Each within our own conceptual bubble. Neither understanding not being understood.

[Makki]

how did a conversation about marriage and mushyness move onto this ridiculous conversation *scrathes head*

[Abdullah al-Muhajir]

Nationalism, of course. Such a rabid disease. :(

[Peace]

how did a conversation about marriage and mushyness move onto this ridiculous conversation *scrathes head*

ask Pak4Ever!

[Peace]

Nationalism, of course. Such a rabid disease. :(

It is! And I always find it surprising how many Muslims from Muslims countries can seem both very 'religious' and also very 'nationalistic'.

And I am not talking about loving your country etc - it is natural to love your home and the place you were brought up in and share a culture with - but what I am talking about is the sort of nationalism that makes people get heated quickley and get into arguments and fights and name calling. Or think they are superior to others.

We are all God's creation - and there is no difference between nations and races. There are good and bad amongst us all.

Regardless of nation we should strive to rise above such petty differences and see each and every human being as our own blood.

Oh dear... I must have stepped onto a soap box by mistake... My deepest apologies :D

[Ayah]

[QUOTE=hassanradwan

Regardless of nation we should strive to rise above such petty differences and see each and every human being as our own blood.
:D[/QUOTE]
Very well said, masha Allah.. If only we strived...

Ermm.. btw, speaking as a "non-Pakistaniyyah," (trying to be careful here), I've always used the term "paki," and atleast in the community I was brought up in (consisting of ppl from various nations, including pakistan), no one has ever taken offense of that term or mentioned anything about it. But maybe that's just here :scratch:

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams


We're a sensitive bunch here :D

Btw sis Ayah i have missed u :love: :)

:salams

[Ayah]

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:salams


We're a sensitive bunch here :D

Btw sis Ayah i have missed u :love: :)

:salams
Awww, *blushes* I missed you too :) Ya don't know how rough it was not having internet access overseas for nearly 3 wks... I was almost gonna go :wacko:

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams


Awww, *blushes* I missed you too :) Ya don't know how rough it was not having internet access overseas for nearly 3 wks... I was almost gonna go :wacko:
Sis, d IG (Miss Ummah addict) here has been 2 jail and an asylum centre, of course i know hw it feels wid no net access :p

Expalin l8r InshAllah :D

:salams

[Abdullah al-Muhajir]

Pakistanis are very nice people when they are not nationalistic. :D
It is! And I always find it surprising how many Muslims from Muslims countries can seem both very 'religious' and also very 'nationalistic'.

And I am not talking about loving your country etc - it is natural to love your home and the place you were brought up in and share a culture with - but what I am talking about is the sort of nationalism that makes people get heated quickley and get into arguments and fights and name calling. Or think they are superior to others.

We are all God's creation - and there is no difference between nations and races. There are good and bad amongst us all.

Regardless of nation we should strive to rise above such petty differences and see each and every human being as our own blood.

Oh dear... I must have stepped onto a soap box by mistake... My deepest apologies :D Nah, very well said. al-Humdulillah.

[amana]

I thought he was talking about.....

MARRIAGE

:scratch:
It`s what i thought.:)

[*IslamicGirl*]

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:salams


I thought it was MAYHEM

( :rotfl: )


:salams

[Chained_Water]

well Pak4Ever.. personally I have not called you a Paki in this thread because after the fuss thats been kicked up, it's more than obvious that it IS offensive to you..

but that won't stop me using the word in general, because I still think it's O.K as long as it's not used in an offensive context.. and of course with people such as yourself who DO find it offensive..

I've used the term for years amongst Pakistani people I know (and in Birmingham, trust me there are a lot of them :) ) and never has anyone been offended by it.. obviously they quite possibly would be if it was say a white Briton using it (and that is for reasons explained in my previous posts)

and similarly i will continue you to use the word banana despite hassans objections :freedom: ..but i can compromise by not saying the word to him in a conversation ;)

i think its time everyone smiled again and returned to talk of MARRIAGE..

[Ebony]

The 'M' word...do we dare talk about it? :eek:

[JiHaD_JoE]

Pak4ever acts like this word is so widespread and used daily by everyone. can i ask you how many times you were called it and by who?

[JiHaD_JoE]

I knew exactly that this was going to happen.



Yet you call me a Paki without hesistation (nam did it again on purpose in this thread), its nothing to you anymore.

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Nam is Pakistani (guessing cause he does post on the Urdu forum) so technically that doesnt really count. but why do you put on this whole emotional show and claiming all this stuff about all of us and saying the Admins are all Arab that hate Pakistanis (infact i dont think none of the moderators are Arab) and then accuse all of us of racism. infact one of your first posts was racist towards arabs. you posted your anti-arab links and you knew what they said, so why did you post them? and then you come here to this thread which was obviously about marriage and then give us a whole speach about saying "paki" which the vast majority of us didnt even post. unless you apologize for your anit Arab posts and remarks and for your accusations i dont think anything should be edited for you. oh and another thing, dont take the internet so seriously :rolleyes:

[Abdullah al-Muhajir]

Pak4Ever - do you live in Pakistan? Such strong love.

[amal]

How could be offensive to be called paki, if you were borned in Pakistan? How to be called than? :rubeyes:

[EZ]

How could be offensive to be called paki, if you were borned in Pakistan? How to be called than? :rubeyes:

maybe he has certain issues being born a pakistani

[nam]

Sallaam


ANyone using the M word will be banned.

Allah HAfiz

Nam ("Lets not be trophy chasers" 28/08/04)

[Mary Carol]

M word?

Which one? :)

Measles

Measurement

Meat

Mechanic

Mercury

Medal

Media

Medicine

Medicine Man

Medieval

Meditate

Medium

Medusa

Meeting

Megaphone

Melancholy

Melon

Melting

Memorandum

Memorial

Memory

Men

Menagerie

Menorah

Mendicant

Mending

Mental Institution

Mercury

Mermaid

Merry

Merry-Go-Round

[Al-Nasser]

better safe than sorry....no need for using any words which *ay cause *e to get banned or having a cold bath..and as na* didn't clarify which * word he *ean then i won't use any word with * in it fro* now on!!!...satisifed na*?

[Chained_Water]

theres some *'s in your signature though ;)

[Al-Nasser]

theres some *'s in your signature though ;)

a ban is better for *e than changing a letter in Quran (or its translation) :)

[Mary Carol]

Guess I could change my name...:(

[nam]

Sallaam

ANyone who questions me will also be deported.

Allah HAFiz

Nam ("I am an uber immigration office" 28/08/04)

[ze leetle elper]

What kind of question? :p

[Mary Carol]

Is that a grandfathered rule?

oops...I asked a question...

[Chained_Water]

a ban is better for *e than changing a letter in Quran (or its translation) :)

:)

personally I think we should ban anyone who objects to our use of the M word :freedom:

[nam]

Sallaam

The usage of the M word has declined. Give youselfs a pat on teh back, well done.

NOw KEEP IT THIS WAY.

Allah HAFiz

NAm ("the desire to see success must be accompanied by the desire to accept failure" 29/08/04)

[Mary Carol]

The usage of the M word has declined. Give youselfs a pat on teh back, well done.

NOw KEEP IT THIS WAY.


Love and Marriage
Love and Marriage
Go to together
Like a horse and carriage

This I tell you brother

You can't have one
You can't have one
You can't have one
Without the other.

;)

[ze leetle elper]

Wherefore art thou Nam? His wise words are missed on this forum. :p

[.: Anna :.]

His name is Jimm now right... that is him?

[Ebony]

He's usually around on MSN. I think the forum began to irritate him :p

But yeah, those were the days!

We should form a thread for the old gang :D

[Makki]

nam was a legend

(Makki 07/11/06 12:46 - "Where for art thou Nam?")

[Abu Hurairah]

Dear Mod/Admin brother or sister,

Please can this be moved also to that marriage section too. :)

Jezak'allah in advance for this.

Wa Alaikum wa Assalam

[ibn suleman]

M is for .......

[muslimah85]

me? :p

[ibn suleman]

me? :p

maybe...