Islam and Magic

[sajid]

Salams all

here is something interesting for u all..protecting urselves from being under a spell... :-)

Regards
ws
sajid
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It is NOT Magic in most cases?

We tend to put all the blame for any misfortune/problem on other people & most convieniently on magic.Instead of looking at our sins & other reasons we immediately accept any suggestion(from anybody at all), that someone has done something to us!.Islam does NOT permit us to make such assumptons about other people especially for muslims,momins & more so for ones own relatives.!In 99% of cases we only incorrectly assume that magic has affected us & it may be true in a very rare case.



What is magic & soothsaying

Magic generally includes:-
a)writing & reciting some special chants & spells, burning of particular objects
b)Making a picture, blowing ,tying knots, burying special objects in particular places so that the person for whom it is intended is affected eg;located, put to sleep, made ill etc
c)bringing about some un natural events by means of charms ,amulets or talisman or potions

Soothsaying is fortune telling, going to people(pir, babas etc) for predictions ,involving Jinn or spirits for non natural events..some scholars equate it with Magic



Islamic View
Magic is unconditionally & absolutely haram/prohibited .A gunahane Kabira (greater sin ) leading to Hell fire. A person who indulges in magic & does not repent is punishable by Death in an Islamic society, as it is equivalent to shirk & severly criticised in many many ahadith

It is haram to learn, teach, perform magic & indulge in soothsaying.(for any cause whatsoever). It is also haram to go to soothsayers (pirs & babas & magicians)& act on their advice. Earnings from magic & payments to magicians also come under haram category..



Magic is evil
The starting point of Magic involves physical disrespect to Quran in many cases!
The sorcerer discontinues all good actions & concentrates on performing satanic rituals, committing adultery, drinking blood etc.These acts bring the magician close to Satan so that he is helped in his magic. Obviously the closer to Satan a man is the further he is from any kind of truth & Islam.



A Muslim is one who submits to the All Powerful Allah swt.
If he goes near these things he demonstrates that he has no faith in Allah swt & Ahlul bayt(as).The Imam of our time will be saddened to see a believer relying on Magic or soothsaying as he has abandoned Allah swt,& HIS chosen people.
If someone wishes for something bad to happen to HIS creation especially another Muslim, Allah swt will also hate him for it. Such negative feelings arising out of pride ,jealousy need treatment by consulting knowledgeable people & reading books on Ethics like Greater sins, Self Building*



How to protect against Magic

-Have faith in Allah swt & rely on HIM & his chosen people
-Understand & realise that the Magicians power is evil & very limited
-Try to be with wuzoo all the time
-Regularly recite Sura Falaq & Sura Nass as much as possible.-
-Give sadqa/charity (alms)
-Invoke Allah swt thru duas (see Oddatul Daee book*)
-Consult an Alim for help in case of need



-Special dua for protection (to be written on deerskin & kept )
A person came to Amirul Momineen Ali (a.s.) and complained that a spell has been cast on him. Ali (a.s.) told him to write the following dua on the skin of deer and keep it with him so that the spell may not affect him:



BISMILLAAHI WA BILLAAHI BISMILLAAHI WA MAA SHAAA-ALLAAHU BISMILLAAHI WA LAA QUWWATA ILLA BILLAAH

QAALA MOOSAA MAA JI-TUM BIHIS SIH'R INNALLAAHA SAYUBT'ILUH INNALLAAHA LAA YUS'LIH'U A'MALAL MUFSIDEEN

FAWAQA-A'L H'AQQU WA BAT'ALA MAA KANOO YA'-MALOON FAGHULIBOO HUNAA LIKA WANQALABOO S'AAGHIREEN


In the Name of Allah and by Allah.(SYunus 81) In the Name of Allah and as Allah willed. In the Name of Allah. There is no power or might except by Allah. Musa (a.s.) said Allah shall soon falsify the magic of those who have come with magic. Indeed Allah does not improve the affairs of transgressors.(S Araf 118) Then the truth became manifested and falsified what they had done. The truth triumphed and they were disgraced.



Another important dua: He also advised reciting the following dua (verse 35 of Sura al Qasas )seven times to safeguard against magic.It is better to recite it seven times after Namaz-e-Shab and before the morning prayers. It will protect one from the evils of magic

Recite

QAALA SANASHUDDU A'Z'UDAKA BI-AKHEEKA WA NAJ-A'LU LAKUMAA SULT'AANAN FALAA YAS'ILOONA ILAYKUMAA BI-AAYAATINAAA ANTUMAA WA MANIT TABA-A'KUMAL GHAALIBOON

… In the Name of Allah and by the help of Allah. Soon We shall strengthen your hand by your brother. And appoint for you a force. By which their mischief would not harm you. Move ahead with our signs. You and your followers shall triumph.

Dua e Sabasab ?



What about Numerology ,Astrology, Palmistry etc?
Numerology is supplementary to soothsaying. Astronomy is different from Astrology which predicts future events with a belief that only stars & heavenly bodies govern things. This is also haram.& a person who has such a belief is also an Unbeliever(Kafir)

We need to rely on powerful methods at our disposal to change our future for the better instead of such ways
Sadqa & observing ties of kinship(selah reham) result in long lives.
Dua’a especially with the medium of Ahlulbayt(as) changes fortunes & destiny



An interesting incident
In the book Qasasul Ulama there is an anecdote of the period of Abbas the Safawid. A Christian king sent a messenger to Abbas with the message that he may be given a chance to debate with Muslim scholars and if he defeats the Muslim scholars they must all accept Christianity. Now the person sent by the Christian king had some powers by which he was able to guess accurately what others held in their fists. The scholars were invited to debate with him and they included Mulla Mohsin Faiz. When the debate began Mulla Mohsin remarked that the Christian king has sent an ordinary man instead of a religious scholar for debate. The envoy brushed the remark aside and told him to hide something in his fist so that he can prove his miraculous powers.
Mulla Mohsin kept the tasbih made of dust from Imam Husain (a.s.)’s grave in his fist and challenged him to guess. The man thought for sometime but kept quiet. When Mulla urged him to speak up he said, “According to my knowledge there is a piece of Paradise soil in your hand but I am astonished as to where it was and how it came into your hands.”
Mulla Mohsin said, “You are correct! It is the dust from the grave of Imam Husain (a.s.) who was the grandson of our Prophet (s.a.w.s.). Your statement itself proves that the Imam of Muslims was on the right. Hence, you must accept Islam.”
The Christian followed his conscience and became a Muslim. He had acquired the power by acting in contradiction to all his wishes & desires for which he was being compensated in this world itself as he was not a believer

[EVILution]

Yeah this majic, in urdu called jadoo is really stupid, lol, listen to this, right because of a personal problem I haven't been the hot favourite from my relatives, and lol these last couple of days I've really been in the dumps, and lol, I have been hearing whispers behind my back that someone probably did some jadoo on her (me), and don't ask what it means as I have no idea. I just think it's another one of Pakistani conclusions, not a really clever one but that's Pakistanis for you!!!!!

[Noor]

Salaams

Sajjid thank you so much for introducing a new line of topic/thread!!! (finally)

Anyway, is "magic" for entertainment purposes allowed, i mean tricks and stuff???

Muslim youth, jadoo on you?????? lol!!
who isn't down in the dumps these days, just tell ur rellies its a tennage thing!!

[EVILution]

Sister what teenage thing, why can't I have jadoo done on me, lol now I am offended! :(

[sajid]

Originally posted by Muslimah
Salaams

Sajjid thank you so much for introducing a new line of topic/thread!!! (finally)

Anyway, is "magic" for entertainment purposes allowed, i mean tricks and stuff???

Muslim youth, jadoo on you?????? lol!!
who isn't down in the dumps these days, just tell ur rellies its a tennage thing!!

Salams

Actually there is another type of magic which is due to Trick..the Old TV trickk

however what im reffereing to here is.. Witch craft and wizardary all this Shirk associated Business...

I know in Bradford (up north of UK) that many people are possessed By Jinns...Or have had some sort of spells casted on them..

however im not sure whether its a similar thing

having a jinn inside u & casting a spell is it same (???)

i have heard stories like in India such things are in practise and Existence..

Stories such as a Jinn was living with a women in here house and fell in love with her...But this women got married and this jinn killed her husband or the wife (not sure which one)

there are many freaky stories that are in existent..and such cases does still exist..and In UK too belive it or not..i know in the north such a bradford this is also in existence..

Other stories which i know is of good jinns...Being with a person all along and being like a protector to the person

and more extreme stories whereby some poor kid was possesed by a Jinn and was acting violenty..the way there cured it was thatin the end they had to strap the poor kid down and beat him hard with a stick until eventually they witnessed the jinn leaving his body....the kid still survived

im sure many posters here that orginate from India / Pakistan or Mauritius like me ;) may have heard scary and spoofy stories..

anyone care to share them?

WAssalam
Sajid

[Noor]

Muslim youth

Have you got exams at the mo??????? That's the teenage down in dumps thing!!

forget jadoo, nothing but a headache!!

[EVILution]

Originally posted by Muslimah
Muslim youth

Have you got exams at the mo??????? That's the teenage down in dumps thing!!

forget jadoo, nothing but a headache!!

Thanks to the Almighty Allah, my exams are over, phew, and tell me about those freaky stories bro Sajid, I can't even go to the bathroom at midnight cos of the stories my brother tells!

[Noor]

Salaams

OHHH so its not the teenage down in dumps the exam thing, what's up then??? (u've lost me)


Sajjid i meant, stuff like pull a rabbit outta a hat, or a string of handkerchief from ur pocket, or a flame down ur gob, kind of magic tricks, entertainment stuff.

Not ghost stories of jinns.

Someone said to witches exist in epping forest, i couldn't help but laff at their tales of epping forest.

[EVILution]

Muslimah don't worry sister, I always get a splitting headache at the end of the day, nothing much!

And lol, I wish I can do jadoo, like the magicians do but I think they use special effects, have you ever seen those programmes on ITV I think, where they reveal all, you'd be surprised how easily we are fooled!

[Agent 99]

A very good enlightened read....
Thanks for the informaton.......

[Machiavelli]

agent99 .. nice little avatar you have! but i fear you may be promoting the boycott of companies totally unrelated to Israel. The "729" does not mean Made in Israel. The 7 signifies one thing ... ie packaging type, while the 29xxxxx, signifies the manufacturer number. This is the number that is significant, but the numbers are not sequential in identifying israeli companies. So you cant just say, "boycott all with man. # starting with 29" for example. The UCC website has a complete explanation of this code.

btw considering the great numbers of ppl against israel, a very effective way of demonstrating.

[Amir Ali]

PEace be upon you SAjid,

Excellent post. Thanks.

That reminds me of all those bogus people in the USA. There's Miss Cleo the psychic who claimed she had psychic powers to heal. Then there's this guy I see talking to ghosts on TVand he's so good at fooling people. Claims he's talking to dead relatives.

Black magic, commercial psychics, etc are all scam artists.

Thanks for the change of pace Sajid!

Peace,

[Machiavelli]

Those ppl you refer to Amir Ali, are definitely the ****iest of the ****. People with the only intent of profiting off of the hopes, dreams, fears of others. They'll get what they deserve in the end i'm sure ;) Now that guy that goes around doing what he calls "street magic" he's alright! lol

[Little_Acorn]

Originally posted by Machiavelli
Those ppl you refer to Amir Ali, are definitely the ****iest of the ****. People with the only intent of profiting off of the hopes, dreams, fears of others. They'll get what they deserve in the end i'm sure ;) Now that guy that goes around doing what he calls "street magic" he's alright! lol
I heard a comedian say that those TV "psychic" scam artists are actually the most intelligent people he's ever run into.

He asked, do you think a person could be considered stupid, who managed to get you to pay him money, just to tell you things about yourself that you already know? :^)

[kaphirgoyim]

I am seeing a J, do you know a John? No, must be Jim, ya? Jim, he is a male figure, above you. He's passed right? Oh, he's your son, Oh, he is sitting right next to you. Never mind, Next.

[caliph]

I think the guy in question is John Edwards and his show is called 'Crossing Over'.

IF you actually watch it, you'll realise that he is clutching for straws and then basing his entire routine on information given to him volountarily by the person in the audience. Not magic, but takes a person well versed in physchology.

Incidentally, the guy speaks at 100 words per minute or something so I guess the poor sod in the audience is just agreeing with anything since Edwards asks about 10 questions in the space of a few seconds!

[newbie]

I agree- these TV psychics and cheap conjurors are frauds.

Please though do not confuse them with real magicians.

The art of magic is a truly ancient tradition predating any of the religions on this planet by a long, long way.

[caliph]

There is no such thing as magic. That's why magicians don't do their 'magic' without the assitance of veils, cloths and smoke!

There are very good illusions but no real magic.

[newbie]

Originally posted by caliph
There is no such thing as magic.

That's great, so you have nothing to worry about then. Sajid seems to disagree though, as would the millions of practising witches, shamen and magicians on this planet (And I don't mean David Copperfield or Paul Daniels!)

Caliph - you deny the existence of magic and the supernatural but you quite happily believe in an all powerful entity who created the heavens and the earth, that you've never seen, smelt touched or tasted, and who sent his teachings into the mind of a man who lived in c600. (Allah)
If that's not belief in the supernatural I don't know what is.
LOL!

[caliph]

The fundamental difference is that Allah (SWT) doesn't hide behind smoke or curtains. His creations are in plain view of you to see.

From the highest mountain to the strand of DNA inside you.

If you want to know the 'secret' of Allah (SWT) all you need to do is open the Quran and all will be revealed to you.

[sajid]

Originally posted by newbie


That's great, so you have nothing to worry about then. Sajid seems to disagree though, as would the millions of practising witches, shamen and magicians on this planet (And I don't mean David Copperfield or Paul Daniels!)
LOL!

Newbie

im not disagreeing with anything....comon seriousy u dont really think i beleive that the magic is real??

my main issue of this thread was to stress about Witchcraft and Black magic.......nothing related to magicians.....associated with paganism and Witches and whatso ever..that kinda stuff.. :)


sajid

[newbie]

Hi Caliph-

I've already read the Quran actually.


My Opinion Was that i felt that it appeared violent to me, and misogynistic and I did not feel it was particularly well written - but that is just my opinion.


But nevertheless a very successful political manifesto, for how to run a country in the year 600.

You can't say I didn't try, and I did give it a chance, but that's just the impression it left me with....

[Amir Ali]

Peace be upon you Caliph,

Yup that's the guy I saw on TV - I was amazed that there are folks out there who actually believe in that stuff. He had a huge audience.

But you are right its actually psychology. I think it won't be long before he's been exposed. He sounds so fake!

"I see a J Do you have a brother? Is he Jake? John? Jim? Jack? No?Well then he married a J? No? What's that? Your Grandmother was Jennifer? Yes! That's it...."

:D

[newbie]

Originally posted by sajid


seriousy u dont really think i beleive that the magic is real??

my main issue of this thread was to stress about Witchcraft and Black magic.......nothing related to magicians.....associated with paganism and Witches and whatso ever..that kinda stuff.. :)


sajid

sajid - if you don't believe it is real and has real power then why does Islam waste so much time in banning it and telling everyone it's haram.
if it has no power then it's nothing to worry about - geddit?
by banning it and making it haram is an admission by islam that it is real.
after all, religions are just "popular cults" anyway.

[caliph]

uh.. troll alert.

[newbie]

sajid-

i see i am not allowed to explain what my feelings were when i read the quran.

anyway I understand that some people will find it hard to stomach that i did not think it was particularly interesting or intelligent, so, in respect for the muslims here i have edited my previous post to make it clear that my comments were simply MY OPINION and nothing else.

i hope that makes it clear.

[caliph]

Funny how 1 billion people in the world read the same book yet came to a very different conclusion..

[sajid]

Originally posted by newbie
sajid-

i see i am not allowed to explain what my feelings were when i read the quran.

anyway I understand that some people will find it hard to stomach that i did not think it was particularly interesting or intelligent, so, in respect for the muslims here i have edited my previous post to make it clear that my comments were simply MY OPINION and nothing else.

i hope that makes it clear.

Newbie

i edited to make it the form of an opinion...to me and to some others it sounded like a direct statement or quote....
but that how i saw it..i got a few pm about it too


Sajid

[newbie]

Originally posted by caliph
Funny how 1 billion people in the world read the same book yet came to a very different conclusion..

And good luck to them...

Having said that, I doubt if most Muslims have even read the Quran, if you bear in mind that Islam is most popular in third world countries where the majority of the population are illiterate.

Most muslims are either born into Islam or forced into it by the nature of the government of the country.

Out of that 1 billion only a small percentage have become muslim by their own choice, and they are the ones most likely to have read the Quran.

[caliph]

Back to the old 'Islam spread by the sword' idea huh?

What makes you such a valuable source of information on the belief of Muslims?

Are you perchance, American?

[newbie]

British actually.

What percentage of the population in Pakistan, Indonesia or India do you think can read?

In my experience illiterate people generally find it quite hard to read, although you may disagree with this, since people like you would disagree with me if I said the grass was green...

[Monikha Maleehah]

Newbie...few words for you. If the Holy Qur'an, the ONLY unaltered revelation of Allah(swt) in over 1400 years did not move you, how can you care about anything else? These beautiful truths and parables that are found inside are the words of Allah(swt) sent down to the people and spread to arrogants and believers alike by our beloved Rasool Muhammad-Mustafa(saw) who conquered all odds and is loved the world over, ven by non-Muslim. Islam is practiced thoroughly and is the Holy Qur'an is the best gift we as humans could receive from Allah(swt) in this human life...perhaps your heart is one of those who's been hardened and that is why you did not fall dowm prostrate when the Qur'an is recited or when you read it. It really surprises me that this glorious book, which can move people to tears(myself included), and can never be re-written or re-created did not touch your soul....this must be the reality of the life of the kufr....sad really....you have not really lived unless Islam has touched your heart and soul and the words of the Qur'an flow from your lips...


Wasalaam ;) sis M.

[newbie]

Not everyone has the same taste in reading material my dear girl.

I am sure there are many books that I think are wonderful, that you would find dull and boring.

It's just a matter of personal taste.

[sajid]

salams

just like to bump this up aswell :)

interesting to read

sajid

[i_luv_life]

salam, i was just wondering to ask you sumthing brother, i am a muslim convert of 5 yrs now and i need to now wot all this black magic is about, can sum1 really do that sort of evil thing?

plz get back to me, my email addy is miriamullah50@yahoo.co.uk

allah hafiz brother

[Free-Bird]

Islamic View
Magic is unconditionally & absolutely haram/prohibited .A gunahane Kabira (greater sin ) leading to Hell fire. A person who indulges in magic & does not repent is punishable by Death in an Islamic society, as it is equivalent to shirk & severly criticised in many many ahadith

It is haram

to learn,
to teach,
to perform magic & indulge in soothsaying
to go to soothsayers
to act on their advice.
to Earn from magic & payments to magicians
Magic is as real as we see our hands, but they are many in types and they varied in strength. So accept it's existance.
The question here is why all this prohibitations?
If we understand the root reason than the knowing person will still learn to understand magics without performing it.

So what is the reason?

[Ahad1]

Salam!

I think that magic is real, too. The Qur'an clearly states that it is real. I became fascinated by the subject of al-jinn when I first converted to Al-Islam back in 1992. Coming from a Chiristian background, I had never heard of such a being. Then just a few days before I took the shahada, a sister who owned the restaurant I was dining in told me to leave any food left on my plate out for the jinn. I thought that the poor woman had become too extreme in the deen and it had driven her to the point of insanity! But I am proud to say that I have read the entire Qur'an several times since then. I have NEVER lost my interest in al-jinn wich mean "the unseen" or "the hidden". I think that the arabic word for magic is SIRR, and it is directly linked to the angels as well as the jinn in the Qur'an. In fact, the Qur'an states:

" And when there came to them a Messenger of Allah, confirming what was with them, a party of the People of the Book threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs, as if it had been something they did not know! They followed what the Satans [jinn] recited over Solomon's Kingdom. SOLOMON DID NOT DISBELIEVE BUT SATANS DISBELIEVED, teaching men MAGIC and such things as came down to THE ANGELS HARUT and MARUT. But neither of these taught anyone (such things) without saying "We are only for trail; so do not blaspheme." They learned from them [the Satans?] the means to sow discord between man and wife, but they could not harm anyone EXCEPT BY ALLAH'S PERMISSION. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (magic?) would have no share in the happiness ot the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew, " (Al-Quran 101-102).


I believe that there is a vast difference between magic (sirr) and sorcery/soothesaying (kaahin). If the Angels taugh men magic, then how could it possibly be hiram? There is in Jamaica the practice of invoking the angels (Mayalism?) and then there is an ILLEGAL practice of invoking the satans, OBEAH, to do one's will. In Africa, the Caribbean, and Latin America there is also Fa, Vodou, Candomble, Orisha, Palo, Santeria and Macumba. Many of those who follow these traditions claim to bave inherited supernatural abilities from a non-human ancestor (possibly a jinn?). They say that this ability is in their blood and that it lies dormant in the blood of several African descendants here in the States. So why would they lie about such a thing? I don't practice magic, but I do know that through God all things are possible. I HAVE heard stories from other Muslims about humans marrying jinn. In Haiti they actually marry the spirits they worship. For those who say that magic is FORBIDDEN to Muslims, where do you get your information from? The Qur'an says no such thing, at least in the English TRANSLATION it doesn't. The Qur'an outweighs the Hadith, you know. I think that it is SORCERY , dealing with the JINN, that is WRONG or HIRAM! There is A BIIIIIIG diference! And, of course, I could be wrong all together. May Allah forgive me if I am commiting a sin by asking such questions. I am not a scholar at all !!!

.................And for the person who clearly doubts the Qur'an, it is only our duty as Muslims to convey the message. Allah alone makes believers. He places a veil over the eyes of some, and only He can remove it. We are instructed not to argue over the words of Allah.
If any fellow believer takes offense to my posting then please forgive my ignorance.

[Ahad1]

The above quote was taken from the second Surah of the Qur'an, Al-Baqarah (The Heifer). Q. 2: 101-102

[toxic]

Protecting oneself from witch craft

Recite the following 3 times when you awake from sleep, and 3 times before you go to sleep to protect yourself from witch craft (black magic).

Falamma alqaw qala moosa ma jitum bihi alssihru inna Allaha sayubtiluhu inna Allaha la yuslihu AAamala almufsideena, Wayuhiqqu Allahu alhaqqa bikalimatihi walaw kariha almujrimoona

Then when they had cast down, Mûsa (Moses) said: "What you have brought is sorcery, Allâh will surely make it of no effect. Verily, Allâh does not set right the work of Al-Mufsidûn (the evil-doers, corrupts, etc.). And Allâh will establish and make apparent the truth by His Words, however much the Mujrimûn (criminals, disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, etc.) may hate it." 10 (chapter): 81 (verse/s) to 82
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Prevent bad dreams and witch craft



Sleep in the state of ablution (wudu), sleep on your right side (face the Qiblah [direction of prayer] if possible) and recite the following before sleeping:-

Qul huwa Allahu ahadun, Allahu alssamadu, Lam yalid walam yooladu, Walam yakun lahu kufuwan ahadun

Say: "He is Allâh, (the) One, Allâh-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks), He begets not, nor was He begotten, And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him." 112: 1 to 4
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Qul aAAoothu birabbi alfalaqi, Min sharri ma khalaqa, Wamin sharri ghasiqin itha waqaba, Wamin sharri alnnaffathati fee alAAuqadi, Wamin sharri hasidin itha hasada

Say: "I seek refuge with (Allâh) the Lord of the daybreak, From the evil of what He has created, And from the evil of the darkening (night) as it comes with its darkness; (or the moon as it sets or goes away). And from the evil of the witchcrafts when they blow in the knots, And from the evil of the envier when he envies." 113: 1 to 5

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Qul aAAoothu birabbi alnnasi, Maliki alnnasi, Ilahi alnnasi, Min sharri alwaswasi alkhannasi, Allathee yuwaswisu fee sudoori alnnasi, Mina aljinnati wa alnnasi

Say: "I seek refuge with (Allâh) the Lord of mankind, The King of mankind,The Ilâh (God) of mankind, From the evil of the whisperer (devil who whispers evil in the hearts of men) who withdraws (from his whispering in one's heart after one remembers Allâh), Who whispers in the breasts of mankind, Of jinns and men." 114: 1 to 6
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Allahu la ilaha illa huwa alhayyu alqayyoomu la takhuthuhu sinatun wala nawmun lahu ma fee alssamawati wama fee alardi man tha allathee yashfaAAu AAindahu illa biithnihi yaAAlamu ma bayna aydeehim wama khalfahum wala yuheetoona bishayin min AAilmihi illa bima shaa wasiAAa kursiyyuhu alssamawati waalarda wala yaooduhu hifthuhuma wahuwa alAAaliyyu alAAatheemu

Allâh! Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter . And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursî extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse 2:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursî.] 2 (chapter): 255 (verse)
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Amana alrrasoolu bima onzila ilayhi min rabbihi waalmuminoona kullun amana biAllahi wamalaikatihi wakutubihi warusulihi la nufarriqu bayna ahadin min rusulihi waqaloo samiAAna waataAAna ghufranaka rabbana wailayka almaseeru, La yukallifu Allahu nafsan illa wusAAaha laha ma kasabat waAAalayha ma iktasabat rabbana la tuakhithna in naseena aw akhtana rabbana wala tahmil AAalayna isran kama hamaltahu AAala allatheena min qablina rabbana wala tuhammilna ma la taqata lana bihi waoAAfu AAanna waighfir lana wairhamna anta mawlana faonsurna AAala alqawmi alkafireena

The Messenger (Muhammad SAW) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allâh, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all). Allâh burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets reward for that (good) which he has earned, and he is punished for that (evil) which he has earned. "Our Lord! Punish us not if we forget or fall into error, our Lord! Lay not on us a burden like that which You did lay on those before us (Jews and Christians); our Lord! Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Pardon us and grant us Forgiveness. Have mercy on us. You are our Maulâ (Patron, Suppor-ter and Protector, etc.) and give us victory over the disbelieving people." 2:285 to 286

[toxic]

Discussion of the Bewitchment of the Prophet



In the Book of Medicine of his Sahih, Al-Bukhari recorded that `A'ishah said, "The Messenger of Allah was bewitched until he thought that he had relations with his wives, but he had not had relations with them.'' Sufyan said, "This is the worst form of magic when it reaches this stage.'' So the Prophet said,



«يَا عَائِشَةُ، أَعَلِمْتِ أَنَّ اللهَ قَدْ أَفْتَانِي فِيمَا اسْتَفْتَيْتُهُ فِيهِ؟ أَتَانِي رَجُلَانِ فَقَعَدَ أَحَدُهُمَا عِنْدَ رَأْسِي وَالْاخَرُ عِنْدَ رِجْلَيَّ، فَقَال الَّذِي عِنْدَ رَأْسِي لِلْاخَرِ: مَا بَالُ الرَّجُلِ؟ قَالَ: مَطْبُوبٌ، قَالَ: وَمَنْ طَبَّهُ، قَالَ: لَبِيدُ بْنُ أَعْصَمَ: رَجُلٌ مِنْ بَنِي زُرَيْقٍ حَلِيفٌ لِيَهُودَ، كَانَ مُنَافِقًا، قَالَ: وَفِيمَ؟ قَالَ: فِي مُشْطٍ وَمُشَاطَةٍ، قَالَ: وَأَيْنَ؟ قَالَ: فِي جُفِّ طَلْعَةٍ ذَكَرٍ، تَحْتَ رَاعُوفَةٍ فِي بِئْرِ ذَرْوَانَ»



(O `A'ishah! Do you know that Allah has answered me concerning that which I asked Him Two men came to me and one of them sat by my head while the other sat by my feet. The one who was sitting by my head said to the other one, `What is wrong with this man' The other replied, `He is bewitched.' The first one said, `Who bewitched him' The other replied, `Labid bin A`sam. He is a man from the tribe of Banu Zurayq who is an ally of the Jews, and a hypocrite.' The first one asked, `With what (did he bewitch him)' The other replied, `With a comb and hair from the comb.' The first one asked, `Where (is the comb)' The other answered, `In the dried bark of a male date palm under a rock in a well called Dharwan.') `A'ishah said, "So he went to the well to remove it (the comb with the hair). Then he said,



«هَذِهِ الْبِئْرُ الَّتِي أُرِيتُهَا، وَكَأَنَّ مَاءَهَا نُقَاعَةُ الحِنَّاءِ،وَكَأَنَّ نَخْلَهَا رُؤُوسُ الشَّيَاطِين»



(This is the well that I saw. It was as if its water had henna soaked in it and its palm trees were like the heads of devils.) So he removed it (of the well). Then I (`A'ishah) said, `Will you not make this public' He replied,



«أَمَّا اللهُ فَقَدْ شَفَانِي، وَأَكْرَهُ أَنْ أُثِيرَ عَلَى أَحَدٍ مِنَ النَّاسِ شَرًّا»



(Allah has cured me and I hate to spread (the news of) wickedness to any of the people.)''



[بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَـنِ الرَّحِيمِ



In the Name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.



[قُلْ أَعُوذُ بِرَبّ النَّاسِ- مَلِكِ النَّاسِ- إِلَـهِ النَّاسِ- مِن شَرّ الْوَسْوَاسِ الْخَنَّاسِ- الَّذِى يُوَسْوِسُ فِى صُدُورِ النَّاسِ- مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ-]



(1. Say: "I seek refuge with the Lord of An-Nas,'') (2. "The King of An-Nas,'') (3. "The God of An-Nas,'') (4. "From the evil of the whisperer who withdraws.'') (5. "Who whispers in the breasts of An-Nas.'') (6. "Of Jinn and An-Nas.'') These are three attributes from the attributes of the Lord, the Mighty and Majestic. They are lordship, sovereignty and divinity. Thus, He is the Lord of everything, the King of everything and the God of everything. All things are created by Him, owned by Him, and subservient to Him. Therefore, He commands whoever is seeking protection to seek refuge with the One Who has these attributes from the evil of the whisperer who withdraws. This (the whisperer) is the devil that is assigned to man. For verily, there is not any of the Children of Adam except that he has a companion that beautifies wicked deeds for him. This devil will go to any lengths to confuse and confound him. The only person who is safe is He Whom Allah protects.



It is confirmed in the Sahih that he (the Prophet ) said,



«مَا مِنْكُمْ مِنْ أَحَدٍ إِلَّا قَدْ وُكِّلَ بِهِ قَرِينُهُ»



(There is not a single one of you except that his companion (a devil) has been assigned to him.) They (the Companions) said, "What about you, O Messenger of Allah'' He replied,



«نَعَمْ، إِلَّا أَنَّ اللهَ أَعَانَنِي عَلَيْهِ فَأَسْلَمَ، فَلَا يَأْمُرُنِي إِلَّا بِخَيْرٍ»



(Yes. However, Allah has helped me against him and he has accepted Islam. Thus, he only commands me to do good.) It is also confirmed in the Two Sahihs from Anas, who reported the story of Safiyyah when she came to visit the Prophet while he was performing I`tikaf, that he went out with her during the night to walk her back to her house. So, two men from the Ansar met him (on the way). When they saw the Prophet , they began walking swiftly. So, the Messenger of Allah said,



«عَلَى رِسْلِكُمَا، إِنَّهَا صَفِيَّةُ بِنْتُ حُيَيَ»



(Slow down! This is Safiyyah bint Huyay!) They said, "Glory be to Allah, O Messenger of Allah!'' He said,



«إِنَّ الشَّيْطَانَ يَجْرِي مِنِ ابْنِ آدَمَ مَجْرَى الدَّم، وَإِنِّي خَشِيتُ أَنْ يَقْذِفَ فِي قُلُوبِكُمَا شَيْئًا، أَوْ قَالَ: شَرًّا»



(Verily, Shaytan runs in the Son of Adam like the running of the blood. And verily, I feared that he might cast something into your hearts -- or he said -- evil.) Sa`id bin Jubayr reported that Ibn `Abbas said concerning Allah's statement,



[الْوَسْوَاسِ الْخَنَّاسِ]



(The whisperer (Al-Waswas) who withdraws.) "The devil who is squatting (perched) upon the heart of the Son of Adam. So when he becomes absentminded and heedless he whispers. Then, when he remembers Allah he withdraws.'' Mujahid and Qatadah also said this.



Al-Mu`tamir bin Sulayman reported that his father said, "It has been mentioned to me that Shaytan is Al-Waswas. He blows into the heart of the Son of Adam when he is sad and when he is happy. But when he (man) remembers Allah, Shaytan withdraws.'' Al-`Awfi reported from Ibn `Abbas;



[الْوَسْوَاسِ]



(The whisperer.) "He is Shaytan. He whispers and then when he is obeyed, he withdraws.'' As for Allah's saying;



[الَّذِى يُوَسْوِسُ فِى صُدُورِ النَّاسِ ]



(Who whispers in the breasts of An-Nas.) Is this specific for the Children of Adam as is apparent, or is it general, including both mankind and Jinns



There are two views concerning this. This is because they (the Jinns) are also included in the usage of the word An-Nas (the people) in most cases.



Ibn Jarir said, "The phrase Rijalun min Al-Jinn (Men from the Jinns) has been used in reference to them, so it is not strange for the word An-Nas to be applied to them also.'' Then Allah says,



[مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ ]



(Of Jinn and An-Nas.) Is this explanatory of Allah's statement,



[الَّذِى يُوَسْوِسُ فِى صُدُورِ النَّاسِ ]



(Who whispers in the breasts of An-Nas.) Then, Allah explains this by saying,



[مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ ]



(Of Jinn and An-Nas.) This is supportive of the second view. It has also been said that Allah's saying,



[مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ ]



(Of Jinn and An-Nas) is an explanation of who is it that whispers into the breasts of mankind from the devils of mankind and Jinns. This is similar to Allah's saying,



[وَكَذَلِكَ جَعَلْنَا لِكُلِّ نِبِىٍّ عَدُوّاً شَيَـطِينَ الإِنْسِ وَالْجِنِّ يُوحِى بَعْضُهُمْ إِلَى بَعْضٍ زُخْرُفَ الْقَوْلِ غُرُوراً]



o(And so We have appointed for every Prophet enemies -- Shayatin among mankind and Jinn, inspiring one another with adorned speech as a delusion.) (6:112) Imam Ahmad recorded that Ibn `Abbas said, "A man came to the Prophet and said, `O Messenger of Allah! Sometimes I say things to myself that I would rather fall from the sky than say (aloud openly). ' The Prophet said,



«اللهُ أَكْبَرُ، اللهُ أَكْبَرٌ الْحَمْدُ للهِ الَّذِي رَدَّ كَيْدَهُ إِلَى الْوَسْوَسَةِ»



(Allah is Most Great! Allah is Most Great! All praise is due to Allah Who sent his (Shaytan's) plot back as only a whisper.)'' Abu Dawud and An-Nasa'i also recorded this Hadith.



This is the end of the Tafsir. All praise and thanks are due to Allah, the Lord of all that exists.

[Every effort has been made to assure the accuracy of this publication. If, however, any errors are noticed by the reader, we would kindly request notification to be corrected in future editions.]

http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=113&tid=59623

[norkcen]

wow, i dunno what to say by, lol, not all magic is as you decribed in the first post sajid

some magic has not rituals, no 3rd party interferince, and does not ahve an religioious aspect to it what so ever

infact, i know magicians in real life who do not use 3rd party or preferom any rituals what so ever, they use energy found in the universe to do things, they same way we use that 'amgical energy which pwoers the information box'

i think when you talk badly of magicians, you should know who your talking about

people consider psionics a form of magic, yet all psiuonics is, is manipulation of energy produce by your nervous system, it's actually more scientific than religious

and it does not use jinn in any way, and you do nto require a certain belief about anyhting, and you do not have to preform any ritual you don't have to say anyhting, you don't have to do anyhting, you simply think it and it is done

not all things unseen are jinn/magic ya know....

[Ahad1]

Salam!

I know most of the hadith and verses from the Qur'an that were posted by TOXIC. However, your postings clearly show a difference between SORCERY and MAGIC as I pointed out in my first posting. With all due respect, the ANGELS taught men magic. However, the satans among the jinn corrupted this knowledge and created WITCHCRAFT which is basically looked down on in MOST societies. I do know that long ago, those who were found to be practitioners of withchcraft or black magic in certain African societies were put to death just as they were in Europe. I know all of what you have posted, but what about MAGIC and the ANGELS? And once again I ask why would Allah allow angels, who have no free will, to teach man something that He knew would harm them? It is SORCERY that is HIRAM, I think. There is perhaps a big misunderstanding about this among Muslims. It does need to be clarified.

Peace and Blessings

AHAD1

[norkcen]

to most muslims ..

unseen things = magic/jinn

[Ahad1]

to most muslims ..

unseen things = magic/jinn


Yes, jinn basically means "the unseen" or "the hidden" in Arabic.

Ahad1

[Mujaheedah]

Allah (swt) tells us in Surah al-Baqarah (chapter 2) where magic came from and how it was taught to the people: "… (the shaiyateen (satans)) taught witchcraft to the people and that which was revealed to the two angels, Harut and Marut in the city of Babylon. Yet these two angels never taught magic to anyone without saying: ‘We have been sent to tempt you; do not renounce your faith.’ In spite of this warning those people kept on learning, from the angels, the magic which could cause discord between husband and wife; although they could harm none with it except with Allah’s permission. They learned, indeed, what harmed them and did not profit them; even though they knew fully well that the buyers of magic would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. Surely, they sold their souls for a bad price, if they could understand it!" (Q2:102)

The Qur'an talks about black magic in surat Al-Baqarah: “And they followed what the Shaitans chanted of sorcery in the reign of Sulaiman, and Sulaiman was not an unbeliever, but the Shaitans disbelieved, they taught men sorcery and that was sent down to the two angels at Babel, Harut and Marut, yet these two taught no man until they had said, "Surely we are only a trial, therefore do not be a disbeliever." Even then men learned from these two, magic by which they might cause a separation between a man and his wife; and they cannot hurt with it any one except with Allah’s permission, and they learned what harmed them and did not profit them, and certainly they know that he who bought it should have no share of good in the hereafter and evil was the price for which they sold their souls, had they but known this.” (Al-Baqarah: 102 )‏

[Mujaheedah]

about the sorcery thing



In Surah Al-Falaq [113:4] in the Qur’an, Allah tells us to seeks His Protection "from the evil of malignant witchcraft". Imam Ibn Katheer (may Allah have mercy on him) states in his tafseer (commentary) that this ayat refers to sorcerers.

[Mujaheedah]

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Whoever blows on knots practices magic, and whoever practices magic is a mushrik (polytheist).” (Reported by At-Tabarani)

[norkcen]

well, then why do people call energy working magic?

...obviously, it must becasue of thier misundertsanding, becasue energy working requires no beleif/ no ritual/ no sayings, not but the will to do it....heh

[toxic]

Salam!

I know most of the hadith and verses from the Qur'an that were posted by TOXIC. However, your postings clearly show a difference between SORCERY and MAGIC as I pointed out in my first posting. With all due respect, the ANGELS taught men magic. However, the satans among the jinn corrupted this knowledge and created WITCHCRAFT which is basically looked down on in MOST societies. I do know that long ago, those who were found to be practitioners of withchcraft or black magic in certain African societies were put to death just as they were in Europe. I know all of what you have posted, but what about MAGIC and the ANGELS? And once again I ask why would Allah allow angels, who have no free will, to teach man something that He knew would harm them? It is SORCERY that is HIRAM, I think. There is perhaps a big misunderstanding about this among Muslims. It does need to be clarified.

Peace and Blessings

AHAD1


:salams:

hmmmm.... why would Allah allow angels to teach man the art of magic?? ..... well Allah did send the angels in the time of prophet sulaiman (as) to teach the people of his time socery.... and the answer as to why is in the verse itself .......

Surah Al-Baqarah: Verse 102

They follow what the Satans recited in the reign of Sulayman. Sulayman did not disbelieve, but the Satans did, teaching people sorcery and what had been sent down to Harut and Marut, the two angels in Babylon, who taught no one without first saying to him, 'We are merely a trial and temptation, so do not disbelieve.' People learned from them how to separate a man and his wife but they cannot harm anyone by it, except with Allah's permission. They have learned what will harm them and will not benefit them. They know that any who deal in it will have no share in the hereafter. What an evil thing they have sold themselves for if they only knew! (2:102)

does not need further explaining!!!!!!

[norkcen]

now discern between magic and legit power

i have no qalms over magic being harram, i do have qalms over what you may consider magic, heh

[yasmin20]

Salamz
I'd like to share this real life story to you all hopefully someone can advice me??????

A few months ago I spotted something very strange in my fridge. There was a small container with some brown syrup thingy in it and I was very curious and I took it out and there was something else inside it some kind of burnt brown paper and I saw writing on it ….. it was actually MY name written all over that paper and I was soooooooooooooo shocked and I asked my mum what is this and why is my name written all over it my mum got slightly nervous and said “oh it nothing its just honey “……. and then when I asked my mum why my name was written on it, my mum was a bit frightened and asked me if I had opened it for obvious reasons didn’t wanna open that container …….. and my mum explained that a “ pandit” ( myfamily r non muslims) had told my mum that if she did this her daughter (ME) will become normal (will not read about Islam) again!!!!!!!!!!!!! And I was soo upset at my mum for doing something like that but I explained to my mum not to do anything like this in the future and I think I made my point really clear inshaAllah

but till this day im still not too sure if this is some sort of magic???????? Is it or is it not?

[norkcen]

that was undoubtly some type of ritual magic

but your hear today, sitll a s muslim and breahtign, so i wouldn't owrry to much

[yasmin20]

lol yeh true i think i probabaly broke the spell or wateva thanks sister

[Ahad1]

[QUOTE=toxic]:salams:

hmmmm.... why would Allah allow angels to teach man the art of magic?? ..... well Allah did send the angels in the time of prophet sulaiman (as) to teach the people of his time socery.... and the answer as to why is in the verse itself .......

Surah Al-Baqarah: Verse 102


Salam!

Yes, I will admit that one of the first things taught to me in Islam is that the Qur'an is clear and straight. It is other people's INTERPRETATION of the Qur'an that I have a problem with. I do not speak Arabic and that is where my problem lies. I've been told that the Qur'an reads completely different when you read it in its original language. When books are translated into other languages, their meaning is often changed. I still say that there is a vast difference between sorcery and magic. Allah did not teach man sorcery. It is sorcery that is bad! I took the Surah you have quoted as meaning that Allah allowed the angels to teach man magic, but the satans among the jinn misused this knowledge and created sorcery which man favored instead. You know, some people favor sorcery because they believe it has better effects than white magic even though it is dangerous. It is a TEMPTATION for them to "seek shelter among the jinn." I DREAMED that you were going to point that same surah out to me again - about magic being a trail for man! However, man has free will and I freely admit that I am stubborn, so I still don't take that verse the same way MOST Muslims (who I know) do. There HAS to be a more logical meaning, I'm sure. In any case, I am too chicken to engage in ANY form of magic. I will run a country mile from spooks! I'm just curious, that's all. You know, I'm scared to death to go on this page to see what reply awaits me! Religions is such a sensative subject, and I don't wish to offend anyone. So if I have, I do apologize. I just wanted to know what other Muslims felt about this subject. That is all. I SINCERELY thank you for being mannerly about it!!!

Peace and Blessings,
Ahad1

[norkcen]

i'm a bro, but np anyways :)

[toxic]

Salam!

Yes, I will admit that one of the first things taught to me in Islam is that the Qur'an is clear and straight. It is other people's INTERPRETATION of the Qur'an that I have a problem with. I do not speak Arabic and that is where my problem lies. I've been told that the Qur'an reads completely different when you read it in its original language. When books are translated into other languages, their meaning is often changed. I still say that there is a vast difference between sorcery and magic. Allah did not teach man sorcery. It is sorcery that is bad! I took the Surah you have quoted as meaning that Allah allowed the angels to teach man magic, but the satans among the jinn misused this knowledge and created sorcery which man favored instead. You know, some people favor sorcery because they believe it has better effects than white magic even though it is dangerous. It is a TEMPTATION for them to "seek shelter among the jinn." I DREAMED that you were going to point that same surah out to me again - about magic being a trail for man! However, man has free will and I freely admit that I am stubborn, so I still don't take that verse the same way MOST Muslims (who I know) do. There HAS to be a more logical meaning, I'm sure. In any case, I am too chicken to engage in ANY form of magic. I will run a country mile from spooks! I'm just curious, that's all. You know, I'm scared to death to go on this page to see what reply awaits me! Religions is such a sensative subject, and I don't wish to offend anyone. So if I have, I do apologize. I just wanted to know what other Muslims felt about this subject. That is all. I SINCERELY thank you for being mannerly about it!!!

Peace and Blessings,
Ahad1


:salams:

hmmm... got me thinking so i did some research and what do you know.... you just might have a valid point.

Allah sent the angels to teach man MAGIC and yup man took it a step further and got together with the jinn and wala SORCERY!!!

i am not qualified to discuss any further so here's some stuff i found.

HAPPY READING!!!!

http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?category=23&id=383 (http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?category=23&id=383)



http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/tawheed/abdulwahab/KT1-chap-22.html (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/tawheed/abdulwahab/KT1-chap-22.html)



http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/creed/abdulwahab/KT1-chap-23.htm (http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/creed/abdulwahab/KT1-chap-23.htm)


couple Q's and A's

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1123996016692 (http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1123996016692)



http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543842 (http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543842)

[Ahad1]

Salam!


Thank you for the links. I did read them. And to be quite honest about everything......I think that we are ALL guilty of playing around with the words in the parenthesis JUST A LITTLE BIT! Even the so-called scholars, I see. I hope that this is not considered tampering with the Qur'an since the words WE switched around are only hypothetical meanings. In any case, May Allah forgive us! I know that we are tempted to do such things to validate our point sometimes.

I have not previously mentioned soothesaying, but many of my older relatives, most of whom are deceased now, claimed to have had the ability to see and speak to the dead. I loved and respected my aunts and uncles very much. They were hard-working, morally upright, and deeply religious people. They were simply BORN with the gift of being able to see into other realms. Some people say that the gift was carried to the New World in the blood of the African slaves. I am a descendant of those slaves. And I do not believe that they were evil.

As for the magic, some is good and some is bad. However, angels can only obey the will of Allah as they have no free will. They taught man NOTHING that would harm them. Satan and his possy did! There are some instances of magic when particular angels are called upon to assist a person in perhaps finding the right remedy to cure another person's illness, or even for knowledge of the times and conditions for planting and harvesting medicinal roots, herbs, and even their crops. During slavery here in America, the traditional roots and herbal remedies were all the slaves had to cure their ailments and those of their oppressors. My people made their living from the land during and after slavery. They used the almanac which is considered superstitious by many. But what they said MADE SENSE! They always knew exactly what season and under what conditions to plant their crops.

I used to have a list of the angels mentioned in the Qur'an and what Allah placed them in charge of. I think the Angel Mikel (Michael) controls the weather in Al-Islam. He is called upon by many practicioners of the secret arts. He was favored among Jewish practitioners as was Raphael. But as Muslims we know that nothing is possible except for by Allah's will. Personally, I feel that a Muslim has no need for magic because he/she has submitted wholly to the will of Allah, and we place our trust in Him. To call upon the angels is usually considered working with ones right hand. To call upon the Satans, which is usually for sorcery and witchcraft, is called working with ones left hand, and it is very risky. Such people were put to death long ago and even today. A few years back, an African friend of mine admitted to assisting in the death of his neighbor who had already killed his wife and children in exchange for powers. He said "It was either him or us!"

Here is an interesting Hadith I found some years ago in Sahih Al-Bukari; Vol. 7, p. 442:

(49) CHAPTER. Should a bewitched person be treated?

Quatada: I asked Sa'id bin Al-Musaiyab, "If a person is bewitched or is unable to have sexual intercourse with his wife, is it permissable to remove the magic effect or use Nashra?" He said "Yes, there is no harm in it, for it is meant for a good purpose, and that which benefits people is not forbidden."

I have no idea what NASHRA is, however. But on the same page, it also states:

" Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said "Avoid the Mubiqat (great destructive sins), i.e., shirk and witchcraft."

Peace & Blessings

Ahad1

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Mother of my wife has give her one picture of my wife with some arabic letters writtten around my wife face, and a hole in the picture where the forehead of my wife is... Is this a bad magic or what? I ask my wife what is this and she said she wouldnt tell me....because she dont know:torture:

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Salam

I hope everyone is in good health and imaan

The person who originally posted this thread mentioned duas and courses of actions to be perfomed in order to protect oneself from any magic. Are there any duas or surahs from the quran that can be recited and other advices that can be used to remove magic from someone.

Can a person be stopped from marrying anyone with magic? This past year I have been trying to convince my family its nothing to do with anyone doing magic on me and selfbelieving any misfortune that come my are consequence of my sins. Im told that someone has done magic on me since i was young not once but thrice. I dont want to believe that something like that can be done ..... Im really confused

please give advice

jazakallah khair:(

[Tahiyah]

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