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Ebony
15-12-03, 03:14 PM
http://www.islamicedu.com/mohadrat.asp?order=3&num=72
apologies in advance, the article is a bit long.
bt its a good read

The Advantages of Getting Married

There are several religious and secular advantages in getting married, some of which are the following.

1. God has favored his creatures with the institution of marriage. He says: “One of His signs is that he created for you spouses from among yourselves to be a solace to you, and planted love and compassion in you towards each other” (XXX: 21). As He made the wife a solace, He also made her a comfort: “They are comfort to you, and you to them” (II: 187) and a tillage: “Your women are tillage for you” (II: 223).

2. Marriage is a course followed by God's messengers as God tells us: “We sent messengers before you, and we provided them with spouses and offspring” (XIII: 38)

God says that His prophet Moses worked for a few years as a shepherd, and thus he saved his marriage dowry. He also says that Solomon had many wives. Abu Hurairah, may God bless him with His favor (GBHF), quotes the Prophet, peace be upon him (PBUH), as saying:

Solomon, son of David, said once, “Today I am going to sleep with seventy women, and each of them will bear a knight who will fight for the cause of God.” His companion (who is an angel) said, “God Willing.” Solomon, however, did not say it. None of the women gave birth to anything except one deformed baby. Had Solomon said the words he would have indeed had his knights fighting for God's cause (Unanimously verified).

A group of the Prophet's Companions inquired about the manner of worship in Islam and came to the conclusion that they can have their own worship practices. Some of them avoided any contact with people. The Prophet, peace be upon him, however, announced that marriage was a thing he practiced and that his example was to be followed. In the Two Anthologies of Verified Traditions (Al-Bukhari, 4675; Muslim 2487), Anas (GBHF) is quoted as saying:

A group of the Companions of the Prophet (PBUH) asked the Prophet's wives about his private practices. One of these Companions [later] said, “I will marry no woman.” Another said, “I will eat no meat.” A third said, “I will not sleep on a bed.” The Prophet praised and extolled God and said, “How come some people have said such and such. I, however, pray and sleep, fast on some days and do not on others, and I get married to women. A person who shuns my example does not belong with me.”

It is then God's Will that messengers—who are the most devout, knowledgeable, and busy of all people—should have wives, and marriage is one of the features of the example (sunna) they have set for people. There is, consequently, no excuse for anybody to elude marriage unless there is some reason that keeps him from it. Otherwise, that person will contradict the example and practice of God's messengers.

3. God orders guardians, and consequently society in general, to get single people, whether male or female, married, as already mentioned: “Get the single among you married, as well as honest male and female slaves that you have. If they are poor, God will provide for them, out of His Bounty. God is Munificent and All-Knowing” (XXIV: 32).

4. The Prophet (PBUH) made a general order, addressed to all young men of his nation throughout the ages: “Young people, let any one of you who can afford it get married, as this would help keep eyes lowered and sexual organs restrained. Let any young man who is unable to get married resort to fasting, for it is a shield for him” (Al-Bukhari, 4677; Muslim, 2486; Al-Tirmithi, 1001; Al-Nisaii, 2210). Usually women are included when something is addressed to men.

5. Through marriage, a person acquires the best of this world's acquisitions. Abdullah Ibn Amr, may God bless both him and his father with His favor, quotes the Prophet (PBU?H) as saying: “Life is property, and the best property is a good wife” (Al-Nisaii 3180; Ibn Maja, 1845). Al-Tabarani quotes Ibn 'Abbas, may God bless both him and his father with His favor, and he in turn quotes the Prophet as saying, “When a person is possessed of four things, he possesses the best of this life and the Hereafter: a thankful heart, a tongue that keeps invoking God's name, a body that endures affliction, and a wife that does not mishandle herself or his property” (Ibn Maja, 1846).

6. Marriage is the complementary half for religious worship. The Prophet (PBUH) is quoted by Al-Hakem after Anas (GBHF) as saying, “When God favors a person with a good woman, He has helped him with half of his religious obligation. Let him then avoid displeasing God over the other half.” In another version cited by Al-Baihaqi, the Prophet says, “When a person marries, he has fulfilled half of his religious obligation. Let him then avoid displeasing God over the other half.”

Marriage is regarded as half of religious obligation, since the Prophet (PBUH) says in another tradition, “Let a person secure for me what he has between his jaw-bones [meaning the tongue] and between his thighs, and I will secure Paradise for him” (Al-Bukhari, 5993, quoting Sahl Ibn Sa'd; also Al-Tirmithi, 2332). When a person gets married, he secures the chastity of his sexual organ.

7. The Prophet (PB?UH) does not only encourage and urge people to marry, but he also forbids celibacy. Sa'd Ibn Abi Waqqas (GBHF) says, “God's Messenger (PBUH) declined to allow 'Uthman Ibn Madh'un to be celibate. Had he permitted him, we would have had ourselves castrated” (Al-Bukhari, 4685; Muslim, 2488; Al-Tirmithi, 1003; Al-Nisaii, 3160).

8. The Prophet (PBUH) also forbids excess in worship to the extent of neglecting the rights of one's wife and family. He said to Abdulla Ibn 'Amr Ibn Al-'Aas, may God bless both him and his father with His favor:

“Abdullah, I am told that you fast your days and stay up all night.”

Abdullah says that he answered, “Yes, God's Messenger.”

The Prophet said, “Do not, but rather fast some days and refrain from fasting on others, and stay up a while and sleep a while. Your body has demands on you, your eyes have demands, your wife has demands, and your visitor has demands . . .” (Al-Bukhari 4800)

It is clear then that marriage is better than complete devotion to worship, so naturally it is better than other occupations.

9. Marriage is a means to get support from God. Abu Hurairah quotes the Prophet (PBUH) as saying, “Three people have a claim to God's support: a correspondent who means to perform well, a man who gets married and means to be chaste, and a man fighting for God's cause” (Al-Tirmithi, 1579; Al-Nisaii, 3096; Ibn Maja, 2509).

10. Marriage is the means for the Islamic nation to grow in number and for the Prophet to boast of the great number of his followers. He says, “Take in marriage a woman who is loving and fertile, because I am going to boast your numbers, compared with other nations” (Abu Dawood, 1754; Al-Nisaii, 3175).

11. Marriage has a healthy effect. Two psychologists at Chicago University compiled very specific statistics on cases of madness they were treating and discovered that out of every 100 mad men and women, 83 were single and 17 married. The percentage of crime is also higher among single people; statistics show that there are 38 single criminals for every 18 married ones.

12. One of the most important purposes and benefits of marriage is the protection it gives against sin, which is what the Prophet referred to in saying that it “helps to keep eyes lowered and sexual organs restrained.” In another verified tradition, he says, “There is no trial I leave behind me more harmful to men than that by women; women were the trial of the Israelites” (Al-Bukhari, 2706; Muslim, 4933; Ibn Maja, 3988; Ahmad, 20751). This is particularly true today as the trial by women is wide-spread in all Muslim countries.

13. Marriage opens for both husband and wife forms of worship that are unavailable otherwise, such as their amicable relationship, gentle companionship, taking care of the children, offering them tenderness and compassion, and getting busy in pursuing their interests—all in an effort to get closer to God, the Most Glorious and Sublime. In fact they receive reward even for their intercourse and gratifying their desire. Muslim, in his anthology, cites a quotation of the Prophet (PBUH) by Abu Tharr (GBHF) in which he says, “And in your flesh there is charity.” His Companions asked, “God's Messenger, do we gratify our desire and yet receive a reward for that?” He said, “How about when you do that illicitly, is there no sin involved? Similarly there is a reward when you do it in a legitimate manner” (1674).

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Earlier Generations and Marriage

Because of their awareness of the Prophet's example and their resolve to follow it, earlier Muslims are known for promoting marriage and giving it great importance. Here is a selection of their statements and stories which indicate that interest.

Al-Bukhari quotes Sa'id Ibn Jubair as saying, “Ibn 'Abbas asked me, 'Are you married?' I said I was not, so he said, 'Do get married. The best people of this nation are those who have the highest number of wives.'” Al-Bukhari says there is a version narrated by Ahmad Ibn Manee' which adds, “This was before hair grew on my face” (4681; also see Ahmad, 1944).

Ibn Abu Shaibah quotes Shaddad Ibn Aous (GBHF) after having lost his vision, “Let me get married, for God's Messenger (PBUH) urged me not to meet God while I am celibate.”

Mu'aath (GBHF) is also quoted as saying while he was in his deathbed sickness, “Let me get married, for I hate to meet God while I am celibate.”

Maisarah is cited as saying, “Tawoos told me, 'You either get married or I will tell you that, as Omar said to Abu Al-Zawair, the only thing that keeps you from it is either impotence or debauchery.'”

Tawoos is also quoted as saying, “A young man's devoutness is complete only when he gets married.”

Meanwhile, Ibn Mas'ood said, “If I lived in this world for no more than ten, I would like to have a wife for that duration.”

Al-Maroozi says:

Imam Abu Abdullah, i.e. Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, told us, “Celibacy has nothing to do with Islam. The Prophet (PBUH) married fourteen times, and left nine widows. Had Bishr Ibn Hareth married, he would have had everything. If people abstained from marriage, there could be no fighting campaigns, no pilgrimage, and so on, and so on. The Prophet (PBUH) used to wake up in the morning, having nothing at all, and yet he had nine wives when he died. He opted for marriage, encouraged it, and forbade celibacy. A person who departs from the example of the Prophet (PBUH) is in the wrong. Jacob, although in distress, married and had children. The Prophet (PBUH) says, 'I am made to like women.'”

I [i.e. Al-Maroozi] told him, “But Ibraheem Ibn Adham is quoted as saying, 'The ordeal the father of children has. . . .'”

He did not let me finish my sentence. “You have fallen in one of the pitfalls,” he cried. “Consider the example of Muhammad (PBUH) and his Companions.” Then he added, “A child crying for bread in his father's arms is better than such and such. How can a devout celibate catch up?”

Ibn Qudama also quotes Imam Ahmad as saying, “A person who encourages you to abandon marriage is encouraging you to abandon Islam.”

Imam Ahmad himself married on the day following the death of his wife, the mother of his son Abdullah.

Ya'qoob used to report to Al-Mahdi, the Abbasid Caliph, at night. He would offer advice on desirable things regarding the harbors, reinforcement, and getting the single married.

Finally, Abd Al-Mumen Al-Maghribi, says:

A man without a spouse is like a barefoot person. Celibacy encourages adultery, and marriage is a signal for prosperity. When a person marries, he chains some of the devils plotting against him. He also fortifies one half of his religion, so avoid displeasing God over the other half. Man's religiousness is undermined by two desires, that of the stomach, which is the minor, and of the sexual organ, which is the greater of the two. So perform your prayers and fortify your two forts.


Jurists and Marriage

Jurists, at the opening their chapters on marriage, mention the attitude of Islam towards marriage, pointing out how important it is. I will cite here some of their statements in as much as time allows.

Scholars of the Hanafi School, place the chapter on marriage after those dealing with the rites of worship. In his Commentary on Fath Al-Qadeer (Inspiration of the Most-Potent), Al-Kamal Ibn Al-Hammam justifies that by saying that marriage

is so close to worship that being occupied with it is better than full dedication to worship, as we, God willing, will demonstrate. Therefore, [the author] places the rites of worship before it. . . . Then he mentions how it is regarded and the differences of scholars over it. He concludes that its being regarded as better than full dedication to worship is more valid. He says, “In general, what is best is to follow precedents rather than what seems to a person to be better because it is, on the surface, worship and devotion. God could not have accepted for His Prophet anything less than the best of everything. His status until his death was that of a married man. It is impossible that God would have allowed him to leave what was better all through his life.” . . . When one considers what marriage involves of improvement of manners, increasing a person's tolerance through intimacy with creatures of the same species, child raising, taking care of the interests of someone who cannot manage on his own, supporting relatives and oppressed people, allowing for the chastity of close female relatives as well as himself, sparing them and himself temptations and the need for frugality. . . when one considers all this, he would hardly think before he confirms that marriage is better than full devotion.”

Ibn Rushd says, “In general marriage is desirable and recommended. . . . When a person needs to get married, cannot go on without a woman, and has no female slaves to sleep with, marriage for him is an obligation.”

Al-Kasani says, “There is no contesting that marriage is an obligation in the case of yearning. A person who yearns to have a woman and cannot tolerate being without one is a sinner if he fails to marry.”

Ibn Qudama of the Hanbali School says in his book Al-Mughni (The Sufficient Book):

In the matter of marriage people are of three types. Some of them fear that they might be led to sin if they do not marry. For such a person, marriage, according to the majority of jurists, is an obligation, because it will make him chaste and keep him from sinning. Marriage is his only option. The other type is that of a person for whom marriage is recommended. This is a person who has sexual desire but can keep himself from sin. For such a person, as believed by those who are entitled to give an opinion, being occupied with marriage is better than full devotion to recommended worship rites. This is also the apparent meaning of statements by Companions of the Prophet, as well as their practice. . . .

Ibn Qudama proceeds to cite examples, some of which are quoted above.

Al-Qurtubi says, “There is a unanimity that a capable person who fears hazards to his faith or to himself resulting from celibacy should get married.”

Sheikh Al-Islam [Ibn Taimiyah] says, “If a person feels the urge to get married and fears to be in distress if he does not, he should give it priority over obligatory pilgrimage. If he fears no distress, pilgrimage has priority. Imam Ahmad, as quoted by Saleh and others, states that, and Abu Bakr has opted for it.”



Other Cultures and Marriage

Marriage is essential to human nature as formed by God. Infidel nations, therefore, have paid special attention to it, either because they recognize its benefits or following the recommendations of what is left to them of their corrupt religions.

Nations of the past gave marriage special importance. Celibacy for them was disgraceful, and many of them believed that a person who died unmarried was deprived of God's mercy. They applied unfavorable, embarrassing adjectives to such a person, and he was usually inclined to avoid people.

In 1661, Louis XIV issued a decree exempting married people of the age of 20-25 from taxes, and in 1798 he issued regulations of rent values and tax collection in which he doubled the taxes on bachelors who were 20 or older.

Wise people in the West, in the face of widespread permissiveness and debauchery, call for early marriage. Will Durant says:

We do not seem to be aware of the social evil that we can attribute to delayed marriage. Undoubtedly, part of that evil results from a latent desire for polygamy that we still have, but, most probably, the major part results from the unnatural delay of marital life. The permissiveness that we witness after marriage most likely results from the habits developed before it. We may try to understand the biological and social causes of this flourishing industry, or may bypass it as inevitable, which is the point of view of many thinkers today. It is, however, a disgrace to regard with pleasure the fact that half a million American girls offer themselves at the alter of permissiveness. Nor is the other side of the picture less depressing, for every man who postpones marriage tends to go out with call girls who loiter in the streets in explicit indecency.

In times of old, people married early, and that was the right solution for the sexual problem. Nowadays, the age of marriage is being postponed, and there are those who do not mind changing several engagement rings. A government that manages to make laws to facilitate early marriages will be worthy of our appreciation, because it will be offering the best solution for the sex problem of our times.

If people who live in permissive, lecherous societies and have no moral objection to illicit relationships are pointing out the importance of marriage, those whom God has protected from sin and who are aware of its dangers have a better call to do the same.



The Benefits of Early Marriage

When a young man and a young woman marry at an early age, they reap several benefits.

1. They get all the above-mentioned advantages and values of marriage.

2. Young men and women today are tormented by the temptations and stimulation they are exposed to everywhere. When young people postpone marriage, they have one of two alternatives, with no third. They either commit sin, and then hopefully suffer pain and sorrow for what they have done, or are protected by God, the Most Glorious and Sublime, and they conquer their desires and their own evil, but still they live in confusion and frustration.

3. Marriage brings psychological stability and comfort. “One of His signs is that he created for you spouses from among yourselves to be a solace to you, and planted love and compassion in you towards each other.”

Contemporary studies have demonstrated the psychological and social stability which marriage produces. A Western writer says, “Permanent celibacy exposes a person to all types and forms of psychological disorder. The soul gets corrupted and it acquires mercilessness, cruelty, frivolity, rashness, and instability.” George Inktell says, “Since the beginning of the twentieth century, celibacy has represented endless misery that often ends with suicide or madness.”

When young men or women postpone marriage they are depriving themselves of the opportunity of securing stability in that important stage of their lives.

4. Married people acquire a feeling of responsibility. Education these days has helped to raise individuals who are dependent on others and unable to shoulder any responsibility. A young person spends sixteen years or more studying, and during that period he has no fixed income. Usually he is a dependant of his parents. A young man badly needs to have a feeling of responsibility, and an early marriage develops such a feeling in him.

5. Early married contributes to a healthy upbringing of children, because the age gap between early-married parents and their children, particularly the older ones, is not wide. The eldest child reaches the age of adulthood, as defined in Islamic Law, before the father is 40. In such a situation, parents find it easier to deal with their children, understand their problems, and educate them.

6. The children will take over the household chores and relieve their parents. When the parents reach the age of 40, the children are already capable of doing chores and errands for the household, which gives the father some free time, which he can exploit, and allow him to achieve things worthy of the stage of maturity that he has reached.

7. Early marriage offers a greater likelihood of begetting good children, since it allows better upbringing, as already mentioned. And also it gives a better chance of having a large number of children. The Prophet (PBUH) says: “When a man dies his work comes to an end except for three things, a running charity, scholarship that others benefit from, and good offspring praying for him” (Muslim, 3084, quoting Abu Hurairah).

8. Early marriage in most cases means early parenthood, and the age of parents influences the intelligence of children. Al-Mawardi says, “The best children in physical appearance, behavior, and manners are those born to a mother who is 20-30 years of age.”

Recent studies have concluded that the chance of having retarded children is higher in the case of mothers under 20 or over 35 than those between 20 and 35. Recent studies have also concluded that the percentage of deformed and mentally retarded children gets higher the older the father is, and it is particularly high for fathers over 45.

Aseer
21-10-05, 10:26 PM
Salam,

Any tips on how to find a decent wife?

Western Girl
21-10-05, 11:27 PM
Any tips on how to find a decent husband?

They're just never the same once you've taken the wrapping off ... tut! ... ;)

Siddiqa
22-10-05, 12:51 AM
lol... the needle in the haystack.

Allahu Alam! It's supposed to happen when Allah wills for it to happen. "It" being - finding the one whom you will spend the rest of your life with in this dunya and hopefully the next.

Life is a trial... in different ways... Allahu Alam.

We keep our minds open and know what we want... and hopefully everything else will follow suit. :)

InshaAllah!

proximus
22-10-05, 01:28 AM
chivalry is dead and woman killed it

Haz
22-10-05, 08:18 AM
Any tips on how to find a decent husband?

They're just never the same once you've taken the wrapping off ... tut! ... ;)

Salam,

Any tips on how to find a decent wife?


For good women are good men

for good men are good women

be good and you'll get a good wife I/A

Aseer
22-10-05, 10:45 PM
I am good!

ur_yusra
22-10-05, 10:47 PM
easier said then done... nowadays its really hard to find the right person...

Aseer
22-10-05, 10:58 PM
Its so much easier to find the wrong person,

Al-Mujaddidah
22-10-05, 11:00 PM
easier said then done... nowadays its really hard to find the right person...

na3m true but you have to realise that you won't find somebody 100% perfect

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:00 PM
i'd settle for 98%!

in_exile
22-10-05, 11:05 PM
i just remember the proverb why do husbands die before their wives .... because they want to ... :rotfl:

dont tell my wife i said that though :nervous:

Al-Mujaddidah
22-10-05, 11:08 PM
huh your wife?

sorry but i thought you were a sister lol..

in_exile
22-10-05, 11:09 PM
huh your wife?

sorry but i thought you were a sister lol..

i think all that terrorism is getting to you sis you need to do some cooking or sewing to get back down to earth ;)

TinyTerror
22-10-05, 11:10 PM
Assalamualaikum
i'd settle for 98%!

Ahhhh but would she settle for less?:D

Wa Alaikumassalam

Al-Mujaddidah
22-10-05, 11:11 PM
Assalamualaikum


Ahhhh but would she settle for less?:D

Wa Alaikumassalam

LOL

in_exile
22-10-05, 11:12 PM
Assalamualaikum


Ahhhh but would she settle for less?:D

Wa Alaikumassalam

that would count as a low blow

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:12 PM
shes's only going to have to settle for 95% which aint that bad is it??!

Al-Mujaddidah
22-10-05, 11:15 PM
i think all that terrorism is getting to you sis you need to do some cooking or sewing to get back down to earth ;)

Lol I'm a law abiding citizen....and I know zilch about irhaab!

TinyTerror
22-10-05, 11:16 PM
Assalamualaikumshes's only going to have to settle for 95% which aint that bad is it??!
Depends on what that missing 5% is really... :p

Edit: Lol I'm a law abiding citizen....and I know zilch about irhaab!
LOL of course! That's what we all say... ;)

Wa Alaikumassalam

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:17 PM
just little things like, i dont like cooking, dont like shopping, im not a chauffeur etc, nothing too serious!

TinyTerror
22-10-05, 11:20 PM
Assalamualaikumjust little things like, i dont like cooking, dont like shopping, im not a chauffeur etc, nothing too serious!
Hmmm see the cooking and shopping acceptable but not a chauffeur? Dude what else are husbands good for?!!! Make that 15%. Chauffering is a big component percentage wise!! :D

Wa Alaikumassalam

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:22 PM
Fine, i'll take up chauffeuring, does that push it up to 90%??

TinyTerror
22-10-05, 11:24 PM
AssalamualaikumFine, i'll take up chauffeuring, does that push it up to 90%??
Well either way i'm sure you're spouse will think you're 100% inshallah! I mean why else marry you? :p

Wa Alaikumassalam

Al-Mujaddidah
22-10-05, 11:24 PM
Assalamualaikum
Hmmm see the cooking and shopping acceptable but not a chauffeur? Dude what else are husbands good for?!!! Make that 15%. Chauffering is a big component percentage wise!! :D

Wa Alaikumassalam

lollll true say that!

in_exile
22-10-05, 11:25 PM
Assalamualaikum
Hmmm see the cooking and shopping acceptable but not a chauffeur? Dude what else are husbands good for?!!! Make that 15%. Chauffering is a big component percentage wise!! :D

Wa Alaikumassalam

true without the chauffering u like getting minus points even if you offer to buy her a car an expensive one no you gots to drive her there and back and to her friends and back :rolleyes:
and women complain of male domination

abdusamad
22-10-05, 11:25 PM
husband: "Oh man why did i marry her?"

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:27 PM
edited!

in_exile
22-10-05, 11:31 PM
husband: "Oh man why did i marry her?"

husband i knew i should have married the freshie back home :inlove:

TinyTerror
22-10-05, 11:32 PM
Assalamualaikum

Wife: The opinions expressed by the husband in this house are not necessarily those of the management.

Wa Alaikumassalam

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:32 PM
The freshie doesnt know what a credit card is, she's have been better financially!

in_exile
22-10-05, 11:32 PM
Assalamualaikum

Wife: The opinions expressed by the husband in this house are not necessarily those of the management.

Wa Alaikumassalam

he he he i like that one thats good i got to save that

abdusamad
22-10-05, 11:33 PM
Assalamualaikum

Wife: The opinions expressed by the husband in this house are not necessarily those of the management.

Wa Alaikumassalam



am just stating the truth. :)

in_exile
22-10-05, 11:34 PM
am just stating the truth. :)

hey you two are not husband and wife are you :scratch:

abdusamad
22-10-05, 11:35 PM
hey you two are not husband and wife are you :scratch:



no akhi lol.

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:35 PM
Sounds too much like a domestic to me too!!



hey you two are not husband and wife are you :scratch:

TinyTerror
22-10-05, 11:35 PM
Assalamualaikumam just stating the truth. :)
Same here :D

The Spinster says:
"I never married because there was no need. I have three pets at home which answer the same purpose as a husband. I have a dog that growls every morning, a parrot that swears all afternoon, and a cat that comes home late at night."

Wa Alaikumassalam

in_exile
22-10-05, 11:37 PM
Sounds too much like a domestic to me too!!

tell me abt it they sould like husband and wife isnt it :inlove:

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:38 PM
Its getting worse, im just waiting for the pots n pans to start flying around!!

TinyTerror
22-10-05, 11:38 PM
Assalamualaikumtell me abt it they sould like husband and wife isnt it :inlove:
strange views you have on marriage!! My husband will not be allowed to speak!!! Let alone access a computer!!! :D

Wa Alaikumassalam

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:39 PM
Assalamualaikum
strange views you have on marriage!! My husband will not be allowed to speak!!! Let alone access a computer!!! :D

Wa Alaikumassalam


You're mean!!

abdusamad
22-10-05, 11:40 PM
you people , jokers.

TinyTerror
22-10-05, 11:43 PM
AssalamualaikumYou're mean!!
LOL! Well i suggest you get on that prayer mat and pray you don't end up with a wife like me!! :rotfl:

Wa Alaikumassalam

Aseer
22-10-05, 11:45 PM
Assalamualaikum
LOL! Well i suggest you get on that prayer mat and pray you don't end up with a wife like me!! :rotfl:

Wa Alaikumassalam

Ameen!

Western Girl
23-10-05, 04:34 AM
chivalry is dead and woman killed it


... See what we have to put up with? ;)



'For good women are good men

for good men are good women' - Haz


Whoa! Such faith! :)

But I think, maybe, in the end, I went for the mission instead ... :) ... :( ...

Western Girl
23-10-05, 04:40 AM
(Tagged onto in_exile's post)

'Yaa Ayyuhaladhina Amanutaqullah

The word "shams" (sun) is feminine, and "qamar" (moon) is masculine.
The sun burns itself out to give light and life to everything around, and the moon is muneer, meaning it reflects the light.
Within itself it has no light; it radiates the brilliance of the sun.
So when we shine as men, the implication is that we are reflecting the glorious light of our women.
May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'aala be pleased with them."'



What a lovely saying!

In most other areas of the globe the sun represents the masculine and the moon the feminine.

I always knew they had it wrong ;)

sajid
23-10-05, 06:29 AM
nowadays people are too fussy when picking partners refusing everyone that comes thur waiting for the right one which inturns leads to them getting older and harder to find someone suitable

the later u leave it then the harder it becomes then u end up regretting all stems from fussyness

abdusamad
23-10-05, 06:41 AM
nowadays people are too fussy when picking partners refusing everyone that comes thur waiting for the right one which inturns leads to them getting older and harder to find someone suitable

the later u leave it then the harder it becomes then u end up regretting all stems from fussyness


:rolleyes:

ya speaking from your heart huh.

sajid
23-10-05, 06:46 AM
:rolleyes:

ya speaking from your heart huh.

nope just from ppl i know

abdusamad
23-10-05, 06:49 AM
i wonder if people make a fuss pickign friends.

in_exile
23-10-05, 12:07 PM
i wonder if people make a fuss pickign friends.

your friends and your wife are a bit different ... i mean if your friend looked a bit scruffy and 6 foot tall and obese hed still be your friend but if some sister asked you for marriage and she was 6 foot tall obese and scruffy i doubt youd want to marry her hey

in_exile
23-10-05, 12:09 PM
Assalamualaikum
LOL! Well i suggest you get on that prayer mat and pray you don't end up with a wife like me!! :rotfl:

Wa Alaikumassalam

why not its good to tame the wild :rolleyes: more of a challenge

.: Rashid :.
23-10-05, 12:40 PM
why not its good to tame the wild :rolleyes: more of a challenge

Good luck :p

-Rashid

striving4jennah
23-10-05, 02:17 PM
You're mean!!
men...:rolleyes:
im so happy i dun have to worry bout that stuff yet!! i dont plan to get married for about 9 yrs!..thats ONE nice thing bout being 14:up:

TinyTerror
23-10-05, 02:36 PM
Assalamualaikumnowadays people are too fussy when picking partners refusing everyone that comes thur waiting for the right one which inturns leads to them getting older and harder to find someone suitable

the later u leave it then the harder it becomes then u end up regretting all stems from fussyness
I'm not fussy....................but my mum is!!!:rolleyes:

Wa Alaikumassalam

.: Rashid :.
23-10-05, 05:34 PM
men...:rolleyes:
im so happy i dun have to worry bout that stuff yet!! i dont plan to get married for about 9 yrs!..thats ONE nice thing bout being 14:up:

9? :|

Thats one thing which SUCKS about being 14!

-Rashid

abdusamad
23-10-05, 05:36 PM
see ya all tommorow.

striving4jennah
23-10-05, 05:49 PM
9? :|

Thats one thing which SUCKS about being 14!

-Rashid
omg! plz tell me ur kiddin!
i think bein 14 rocks now...i mean..im glad livin my life without worryin bout that stuff yet..!! i still got time..still young!..!...ur right..mayb not NINE years...mayb jus 5 or 6.....! *shrugs*.........

ur_yusra
23-10-05, 06:30 PM
If a man expects food for him and his entire family then he should definately get married to a woman back home..

TinyTerror
23-10-05, 06:34 PM
Assalamualaikum
If a man expects food for him and his entire family then he should definately get married to a woman back home..
LOL! Not always true... :p

Wa Alaikumassalam

striving4jennah
23-10-05, 06:42 PM
where is back home?

in_exile
23-10-05, 07:01 PM
If a man expects food for him and his entire family then he should definately get married to a woman back home..

is that perhaps because women from back home are more womanly well mannered and muttaqi then women from the west maybe :rolleyes:

ur_yusra
23-10-05, 07:01 PM
post edited

reason: I cnt keep up with the posting and I may be handing in my resignation quite soon..

ur_yusra
23-10-05, 07:06 PM
is that perhaps because women from back home are more womanly well mannered and muttaqi then women from the west maybe :rolleyes:

no because women there know how to satisfy their husbands stomachs.. if thats what u prioritise then marry from there, If u want someone more on ur level maybe in terms of deen then marry here especially if u want ur wife to laugh at ur jokes but dnt expect miracles in the kitchen

striving4jennah
23-10-05, 07:06 PM
but where is back home?

TinyTerror
23-10-05, 07:07 PM
Assalamualaikum
but where is back home?
Lol well it depends on the individual BUT generally it refers to the asian sub-contient!:rolleyes:

Wa Alaikumassalam

tweety
23-10-05, 07:10 PM
no because women there know how to satisfy their husbands stomachs.. if thats what u prioritise then marry from there, If u want someone more on ur level maybe in terms of deen then marry here especially if u want ur wife to laugh at ur jokes but dnt expect miracles in the kitchen
plenty of women from there who cant cook, and plenty here who can.

just gotta know where to look ;)


cookings not that hard anyway :p

ur_yusra
23-10-05, 07:13 PM
I cant imagine cooking every single day of my entire life..

TinyTerror
23-10-05, 07:21 PM
AssalamualaikumI cant imagine cooking every single day of my entire life..
Marry a chef!! :p

I like cooking so not an issue BUT i can't imagine having to go out nearly every single day of my life to work amd earn money. *Shudder*

Wa Alaikumassalam

ur_yusra
23-10-05, 07:29 PM
lol.. but men who do that have DAYS OFF!!! enough said.. :p

in_exile
23-10-05, 08:10 PM
no because women there know how to satisfy their husbands stomachs.. if thats what u prioritise then marry from there, If u want someone more on ur level maybe in terms of deen then marry here especially if u want ur wife to laugh at ur jokes but dnt expect miracles in the kitchen

my wife cooks well and she laughs at my jokes and shes from uk aswell so i dont see the dilema

TinyTerror
23-10-05, 08:45 PM
Assalamualaikummy wife cooks well and she laughs at my jokes and shes from uk aswell so i dont see the dilema

Subhanallah! Are you sure she's for real... :p

Wa Alaikumassalam

ur_yusra
23-10-05, 08:50 PM
Assalamualaikum

Subhanallah! Are you sure she's for real... :p

Wa Alaikumassalam

no shes imaginary..

tweety
23-10-05, 08:53 PM
:rolleyes:

TinyTerror
23-10-05, 09:00 PM
Assalamualaikumno shes imaginary..
LOL!!!

No problems 'in-exile' i'm sure much greater men have succumbed to much worse fantasies when they're in exile! :D

Wa Alaikumassalam

in_exile
23-10-05, 09:35 PM
Assalamualaikum
LOL!!!

No problems 'in-exile' i'm sure much greater men have succumbed to much worse fantasies when they're in exile! :D

Wa Alaikumassalam

jealousy is such a bad thing tut tut but ive got slots 2 3 4 open so dont worry but youll have to get permission from my wife

.: Rashid :.
23-10-05, 10:05 PM
omg! plz tell me ur kiddin!
i think bein 14 rocks now...i mean..im glad livin my life without worryin bout that stuff yet..!! i still got time..still young!..!...ur right..mayb not NINE years...mayb jus 5 or 6.....! *shrugs*.........

I guess its different for girls then... :embar:

Or maybe its just me, or you? :S

-Rashid

ur_yusra
23-10-05, 10:23 PM
jealousy is such a bad thing tut tut but ive got slots 2 3 4 open so dont worry but youll have to get permission from my wife

oh wow ur actually gonna ask ur wife for permission?? you have outdone yourself..

in_exile
23-10-05, 11:38 PM
im not gonna ask her anything if she wants me to have a second wife then ill get one if she doesnt i wont, although i know it will hurt so many sisters to hear this but i dont have interest in marrying more then one, so youll have to try convincing my wife but shes very possessive

.: Rashid :.
24-10-05, 06:39 AM
im not gonna ask her anything if she wants me to have a second wife then ill get one if she doesnt i wont, although i know it will hurt so many sisters to hear this but i dont have interest in marrying more then one, so youll have to try convincing my wife but shes very possessive

:scratch: I you actually married, or is this a joke? :S

Yes, I am a bit slow...very confused too :S

-Rashid

in_exile
24-10-05, 11:03 AM
:scratch: I you actually married, or is this a joke? :S

Yes, I am a bit slow...very confused too :S

-Rashid

well it would be a bit hard to ask my wife anything if i wasnt married wouldnt it :scratch:

.: Rashid :.
24-10-05, 02:20 PM
well it would be a bit hard to ask my wife anything if i wasnt married wouldnt it :scratch:

It would, but I thought you were joking... :scratch:

-Rashid

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 04:38 PM
It would, but I thought you were joking... :scratch:

-Rashid

well you see... when someone starts something off for a joke and it drags on for too long they begin to develop a posessiveness for the ideology that was initiated as a temporary one.. They then subliminally convince themselves that what began as a joke is in actual fact reality... at this point if a psychiatrist fails to intervene then there is no hope for that individual.. they are doomed to a life of hallucinations and delusions of grandeur..

not mentioning any names of course..

Al-Mujaddidah
24-10-05, 04:58 PM
well you see... when someone starts something off for a joke and it drags on for too long they begin to develop a posessiveness for the ideology that was initiated as a temporary one.. They then subliminally convince themselves that what began as a joke is in actual fact reality... at this point if a psychiatrist fails to intervene then there is no hope for that individual.. they are doomed to a life of hallucinations and delusions of grandeur..

not mentioning any names of course..

Lol accurate analysis :up:

.: Rashid :.
24-10-05, 05:14 PM
well you see... when someone starts something off for a joke and it drags on for too long they begin to develop a posessiveness for the ideology that was initiated as a temporary one.. They then subliminally convince themselves that what began as a joke is in actual fact reality... at this point if a psychiatrist fails to intervene then there is no hope for that individual.. they are doomed to a life of hallucinations and delusions of grandeur..

not mentioning any names of course..

LOL :D

-Rashid

in_exile
24-10-05, 05:44 PM
well you see... when someone starts something off for a joke and it drags on for too long they begin to develop a posessiveness for the ideology that was initiated as a temporary one.. They then subliminally convince themselves that what began as a joke is in actual fact reality... at this point if a psychiatrist fails to intervene then there is no hope for that individual.. they are doomed to a life of hallucinations and delusions of grandeur..

not mentioning any names of course..

awww are we feeling jealous again has the freshie from mirpur turned you down cus you cant cook, dont worry im sure there is someone out there for you maybe someone who is allergic to solid food blind and deaf :rolleyes:

like i said jealousy is such a bad thing if you want to convince yourself that im not married and that your in with a chance of being my first wife then you need to wake up and smell the roses other then that you can always try to convince my first but she dont think to highly of people who cant cook

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 07:49 PM
awww are we feeling jealous again has the freshie from mirpur turned you down cus you cant cook, dont worry im sure there is someone out there for you maybe someone who is allergic to solid food blind and deaf :rolleyes:

like i said jealousy is such a bad thing if you want to convince yourself that im not married and that your in with a chance of being my first wife then you need to wake up and smell the roses other then that you can always try to convince my first but she dont think to highly of people who cant cook

hmmm no its not a matter of jealousy.. there are plenty of practising brothers out there I dont need to resort to mirpur.. nor do I need to resort to a random name on ummah.com.. but you seem to be missing the point here.. and that is that you dont have a wife and are in actual fact making it up.. :rolleyes:

abdusamad
24-10-05, 07:51 PM
Lol accurate analysis :up:


:scratch:

abdusamad
24-10-05, 07:52 PM
hmmm no its not a matter of jealousy.. there are plenty of practising brothers out there I dont need to resort to mirpur.. nor do I need to resort to a random name on ummah.com.. but you seem to be missing the point here.. and that is that you dont have a wife and are in actual fact making it up.. :rolleyes:





LOL :)

in_exile
24-10-05, 07:52 PM
hmmm no its not a matter of jealousy.. there are plenty of practising brothers out there I dont need to resort to mirpur.. nor do I need to resort to a random name on ummah.com.. but you seem to be missing the point here.. and that is that you dont have a wife and are in actual fact making it up.. :rolleyes:

well well well we go to first insulting every male muslim during ramadhan to calling a muslim a liar during the last 10 days of ramadhan how quick your spiritual progression has been hey :rolleyes:

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 07:52 PM
deleted

reason.. Im far too slow and should really be doing my coursework

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 07:53 PM
Assalamualaikumlol... abdusamad.. try actimind from boots.. it contains gingko biloba extract.. that will keep you from looking so confused.. :p
ROFL!!! :rotfl:

Wa Alaikumassalam

abdusamad
24-10-05, 07:55 PM
deleted

reason.. Im far too slow and should really be doing my coursework


Reminder: Me knows where ya are!

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 07:55 PM
well well well we go to first insulting every male muslim during ramadhan to calling a muslim a liar during the last 10 days of ramadhan how quick your spiritual progression has been hey :rolleyes:

ok fine.. but im 100% sure im telling the truth otherwise it would be slander am I not correct?? so in actual fact I am risking something quite big for making the claim I made.. maybe thats an indication of how positive I am..

abdusamad
24-10-05, 07:55 PM
Assalamualaikum
ROFL!!! :rotfl:

Wa Alaikumassalam


Shouldnt laff to much, dont want the wrinkles showing up early now, do we?

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 07:57 PM
Reminder: Me knows where ya are!

lol is that a threat then :p

abdusamad
24-10-05, 07:57 PM
lol is that a threat then :p



:rolleyes:



Take it however ya like.

in_exile
24-10-05, 07:59 PM
ok fine.. but im 100% sure im telling the truth otherwise it would be slander am I not correct?? so in actual fact I am risking something quite big for making the claim I made.. maybe thats an indication of how positive I am..

nope slander is when you accuse someone of doing an action which is deemed haram and they have not so for instance if you were to say so and so did zina that would be slander, you have done just as bad actually by claiming I have lied and I dont know how you can be so sure but that is between you and Allah (swt). so why you are risking your akhira is confusing and what premise you are risking it on is even more confusing :scratch:

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 08:04 PM
nope slander is when you accuse someone of doing an action which is deemed haram and they have not so for instance if you were to say so and so did zina that would be slander, you have done just as bad actually by claiming I have lied and I dont know how you can be so sure but that is between you and Allah (swt). so why you are risking your akhira is confusing and what premise you are risking it on is even more confusing :scratch:

confused is a man thing.. at least your gender is clear cut and not debatable like ur marital status..

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 08:04 PM
AssalamualaikumShouldnt laff to much, dont want the wrinkles showing up early now, do we?
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Wrinkles are cute :p :rofl1:
Yusra:
confused is a man thing..


:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Wa Alaikumassalam

in_exile
24-10-05, 08:12 PM
confused is a man thing.. at least your gender is clear cut and not debatable like ur marital status..

well four times youve accused me of lying now so in the month of ramadhan aswell,

O you who believe! Avoid much suspicion, in deeds some suspicions are sins. And spy not neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear God, verily, God is the one who accepts repentance, Most Merciful. (49: 12

Behold, you received it on your tongues, and said out of your mouths things which you had no knowledge; and you thought it to be a light matter, while it was most serious in the sight of God (24: 15)

abdusamad
24-10-05, 08:13 PM
ahhh me think me going to east london for some reason.....

in_exile
24-10-05, 08:28 PM
i c certain people have gone quiet now aint that a surprise am gonna have a heartattack with that surprise, well actually i did expect an apology but i guess thats too much to expect from a sister hey :rolleyes:

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 08:41 PM
ahhh me think me going to east london for some reason.....

hmmm me thinks me going to pull a sickie on saturday for some reason..

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 08:43 PM
i c certain people have gone quiet now aint that a surprise am gonna have a heartattack with that surprise, well actually i did expect an apology but i guess thats too much to expect from a sister hey :rolleyes:

look no need to have a myocardial infarction over everything I do and dont do... I know brothers such as yourself can get emotional sometimes... but please dont let that get in the way of your rational thinking..

in_exile
24-10-05, 08:44 PM
still no reply tut tut pride is the fuel for the hellfire tut tut

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 08:44 PM
Assalamualaikumlook no need to have a myocardial infarction over everything I do and dont do... I know brothers such as yourself can get emotional sometimes... but please dont let that get in the way of your rational thinking..

:rotfl: You kill it gurl!!!! :up:

Wa Alaikumassalam

tweety
24-10-05, 08:44 PM
:outta:

abdusamad
24-10-05, 08:47 PM
Where do these people come from..

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 08:48 PM
Where do these people come from..

lol which people??

abdusamad
24-10-05, 08:48 PM
lol which people??


Do i have to mention names?

in_exile
24-10-05, 08:48 PM
look no need to have a myocardial infarction over everything I do and dont do... I know brothers such as yourself can get emotional sometimes... but please dont let that get in the way of your rational thinking..

niether was I having a myocardial infarction over everything you do nor was I letting anything get in the way of rational thought what I was trying to ascertain from yourself was how much pride you had before you would admit you did wrong and accused a muslim of lying during the month of ramadhan and repented but i guess that limit of tolerance is set at an unusually high level. I think thats why some people are more suited to the pharmaceutical profession rather then the profession of keeping withing the shriah of Islam.

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 08:49 PM
niether was I having a myocardial infarction over everything you do nor was I letting anything get in the way of rational thought what I was trying to ascertain from yourself was how much pride you had before you would admit you did wrong and accused a muslim of lying during the month of ramadhan and repented but i guess that limit of tolerance is set at an unusually high level. I think thats why some people are more suited to the pharmaceutical profession rather then the profession of keeping withing the shriah of Islam.

lying is not within the shariah of islam..

in_exile
24-10-05, 08:51 PM
to accuse one of lying with no daleel based upon no evidence which you can have quoted is to take a step outside of sharia, to be so ignorant as to retract what you have said is to delve even further into misguidance.

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 08:54 PM
to accuse one of lying with no daleel based upon no evidence which you can have quoted is to take a step outside of sharia, to be so ignorant as to retract what you have said is to delve even further into misguidance.

your accusing me of lying?? that is against the shariah, I refuse to argue with you further purely because I have this wretched piece of coursework to do.. and anyway how futile a discussion this is..

in_exile
24-10-05, 08:57 PM
your accusing me of lying?? that is against the shariah, I refuse to argue with you further purely because I have this wretched piece of coursework to do.. and anyway how futile a discussion this is..

i did not accuse you of lying you accused me of lying by saying I was not married and that you were 100 percent convinced of it, anyway summum bukum umyun.

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 09:00 PM
i did not accuse you of lying you accused me of lying by saying I was not married and that you were 100 percent convinced of it, anyway summum bukum umyun.

ok so after all of this do you still stand by the fact that you are married.. ?? (apparently..)

in_exile
24-10-05, 09:03 PM
errr like i said about 6 times yes

abdusamad
24-10-05, 09:04 PM
errr like i said about 6 times yes



Hope ya have a happy marriage. :)


May Allah bless you with a tenfold of the offspring you hoped for. Ameen

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 09:05 PM
Hope ya have a happy marriage. :)


May Allah bless you with a tenfold of the offspring you hoped for. Ameen

ameen :p

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 09:06 PM
Assalamualaikum

Anyone else confused or just me :wacko:

Wa Alaikumassalam

in_exile
24-10-05, 09:09 PM
some people still dont have the taqwa to apologise i guess

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 09:15 PM
Assalamualaikumsome people still dont have the taqwa to apologise i guess
Do you mean me?!! Did i offend you?!!:rubeyes: :(
Sorry! Please forgive me!:torture: <---- me getting what i deserve

Wa Alaikumassalam

Ayah
24-10-05, 09:15 PM
Assalamualaikum

Anyone else confused or just me :wacko:

Wa Alaikumassalam

Subhan Allah. If you read through this thread tiny, you'll understand what in_exile is talking about.. May Allah forgive those who make implications of falsehood against others, without any justification, Ameen.

~Ayah

in_exile
24-10-05, 09:18 PM
Assalamualaikum
Do you mean me?!! Did i offend you?!!:rubeyes: :(
Sorry! Please forgive me!:torture: <---- me getting what i deserve

Wa Alaikumassalam

i wasnt talking about you little sis dont worry :inlove:

Aseer
24-10-05, 09:59 PM
Im getting the next plane to pakistan then!

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 10:38 PM
Assalamualaikum
Im getting the next plane to pakistan then!
Cool. Just give us time to warn them... ;)

Wa Alaikumassalam

.: Rashid :.
24-10-05, 10:38 PM
:scratch:

Abdusamad, if I didn't know better, I'd say these people come from bangladesh :p

But they're a whole new type of "pagaal" :|

-Rashid

ur_yusra
24-10-05, 10:39 PM
:scratch:

Abdusamad, if I didn't know better, I'd say these people come from bangladesh :p

But they're a whole new type of "pagaal" :|

-Rashid

lol !!!!!!! dont insult the people of bangladesh .. they're really nice people.. :rolleyes:

Aseer
24-10-05, 10:39 PM
Why are you so cheeky, u just wait till i come down to that lecture with Ahmad Ali, im gonna hunt u down!!!



Assalamualaikum

Cool. Just give us time to warn them... ;)

Wa Alaikumassalam

abdusamad
24-10-05, 10:39 PM
:scratch:

Abdusamad, if I didn't know better, I'd say these people come from bangladesh :p

But they're a whole new type of "pagaal" :|

-Rashid


I dont get them too, they offically branded weird.

.: Rashid :.
24-10-05, 10:41 PM
lol !!!!!!! dont insult the people of bangladesh .. they're really nice people.. :rolleyes:

I'm bengali. Does that make me "really nice"? :D lol

I dont get them too, they offically branded weird.

More than weird... :rubeyes:

-Rashid

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 10:46 PM
AssalamualaikumWhy are you so cheeky, u just wait till i come down to that lecture with Ahmad Ali, im gonna hunt u down!!!
Uh-Oh! Time to check my ammunition is full....Teeheee i LOVE a good fight. Take your pick bats or knives or both? :D

Abdusamad: I dont get them too, they offically branded weird.
Hehe takes one to know one.... :p

I'm bengali. Does that make me "really nice"? :D lol
Rashid stop fishing! Ahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa fishing gettit? :rotfl:

Wa Alaikumassalam

.: Rashid :.
24-10-05, 10:49 PM
Rashid stop fishing! Ahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa fishing gettit? :rotfl:

lool, cheesie ;) (no, cheesie isn't another cheesie joke :rolleyes: )

-Rashid

abdusamad
24-10-05, 10:50 PM
More than weird... :rubeyes:

-Rashid



yes.

in_exile
24-10-05, 11:10 PM
any mirpuris here apart from ur-yusrah

Aseer
24-10-05, 11:14 PM
[QUOTE=TinyTerror]Assalamualaikum
Uh-Oh! Time to check my ammunition is full....Teeheee i LOVE a good fight. Take your pick bats or knives or both? :D

How about guns??!!

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 11:16 PM
Assalamualaikum How about guns??!!
Pffft! Too quick and painless! Bats and knives much more fun. Sheesh if there's going to be a fight we should at least make it a good one!!:rolleyes:

Wa Alaikumassalam

Aseer
24-10-05, 11:17 PM
knives it is then, dont be hiding in prayer room u little sissy!!

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 11:20 PM
Assalamualaikumknives it is then, dont be hiding in prayer room u little sissy!!
oooooh i see it's already started!!! Soooo scared....NOT! The only time i'll be running into that prayer room is AFTER the fight to thank and praise Allah for my victory!! :p

Wa Alaikumassalam

Aseer
24-10-05, 11:23 PM
Assalamualaikum
oooooh i see it's already started!!! Soooo scared....NOT! The only time i'll be running into that prayer room is AFTER the fight to thank and praise Allah for my victory!! :p

Wa Alaikumassalam


(remind me what we're fighting for please!!!)

your not gonna be alive to go to the prayer room after the fight, coming to think of it, there not gonna be a fight, your just a little girl!!

TinyTerror
24-10-05, 11:34 PM
Assalamualaikum(remind me what we're fighting for please!!!)
Erm....does there have to be a reason? Just for fun? That do? :p

your not gonna be alive to go to the prayer room after the fight, coming to think of it, there not gonna be a fight, your just a little girl!!

Yeah yeah, that's the excuse every chicken-poo coward dude says before i karate chop his head off!! :D

Wa Alaikumasssalam

Mary Carol
25-10-05, 12:34 AM
nowadays people are too fussy when picking partners refusing everyone that comes thur waiting for the right one which inturns leads to them getting older and harder to find someone suitable

the later u leave it then the harder it becomes then u end up regretting all stems from fussyness

Sometimes the right one finds you...:)

Arsalan
27-10-05, 12:49 PM
A solution to many problems:

http://www.livewed.com/index.html

jokes!

:)

Ebony
13-02-06, 03:58 PM
The Secrets to Happy, Lasting Islamic Marriages
2/14/2006 - Religious Social Education - Article Ref: AZ0602-2907
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By: Laila Qadira Yamini and Nadia Hassouneh
Azizah Magazine* -
She knows by his face when he needs a word of encouragement. He knows that silence suits her best in the morning. They often finish sentences with a "you know what I mean" nod. Through the years they have rubbed off each other's rough spots, grown together and now, seeing them together, they look comfortable.

The Qur'an says: "And among His signs is this, that He created for you mates from among yourselves that you may dwell in tranquility with them, and He has put love and mercy between your (hearts); Verily in that are signs for those who reflect" (30:21).

When a woman and a man marry, this picture of companionship, love, and tranquility is their goal. Achieving it, though, is not simple or easy, and many of us do not. In the United States, 60% of marriages end in divorce. Even those that last beyond the honeymoon stages, before the challenges of everyday living set in, may become boring, unfulfilling, and driven by factors other than the true desire to remain in one another's company. Muslim couples are not immune to the deadly influences that break up or stagnate marital relationships. Breakdowns in communication, difficulty discussing emotionally charged issues such as finances or child-rearing practices and the challenge of effectively resolving divisive issues are all factors that can sour a potentially gratifying marriage.

Some marital discord may occur simply because the couple came together for the wrong reasons or because they approached marriage with unrealistic expectations. Going into a marriage with eyes wide open is the first action toward the future success of the union.

Mahasin Salaam, happily married for 30 years, emphasizes the need to start out on the right foot. "If a marriage is started out by doing the proper things in the courtship, then that lays the foundation," she says. Mahasin goes on to point out that having common interests and backgrounds is part of what makes a marriage work from the beginning, recalling that, "We had so much in common--the love for art, poetry, the importance of family life (we both come from close-knit families). The first night we met we talked for four to five hours. The communication is still good."

Even though the particulars of a couple's lives may differ, that sense of connection at the outset that Mahasin describes is important to the future of a marriage. Ann El-Moslimany, who has been married for 38 years, remembers that on first getting acquainted with her then-future husband, "I was definitely attracted by my husband's piety, even though we were of different religions and at that time I never thought I would become Muslim. I was also strongly attracted to him physically, and I think that is important, too."

Iman Sabir, who has been married for 30 years, agrees. She observes, too, that in most cases while the externals and details may change, the person's basic nature remains constant, as her experience attests. "Before I married," she says, "even before I became Muslim, I knew I wanted a man who was peaceful in nature and serious-minded. When I met my husband, it was these things in his character that attracted me to him. To this day he's still the same."

Even the most perfect marital matchups require effort to succeed, and the beginning stage of any long-term relationship involves a period of ironing out differences and learning to live together. Ibrahim Pasha, Imam at Atlanta Masjid of Al Islam, who counsels Muslim couples in need of marital advice, says, "Many couples enter into marriage based upon the glamour of it, rather than the practicalities of it. Problems arise after marriage, when more attention is given to the emotional and sentimental aspects rather than the fundamentals of marriage."

Looking back at her marriage, Ann has realized that the best way to get through the adjustment period is for the partners to remain true to themselves while learning to compromise. Trying to take on stereotypical roles of husband or wife, or trying to mold the marriage partner into such a role, only causes problems in the future as expectations are created and broken. "When we first married," Ann laughs, "it didn't occur to me to expect my husband to help around the house. After we married, I moved into his apartment. I remember saying, 'It's my kitchen now. You stay out!' I have never forgiven myself!"

A strong woman who knows herself and understands the freedom Islam gives her to express her humanity is in a good position to know what she needs from her partner. Mahasin advises, "A woman should try to communicate to her husband how she wants to be treated. If he doesn't get it, she has to keep saying what she wants from the relationship."

Learning the art of compromise usually takes years. Couples may be disappointed when months go by, and then years, and they are still learning to accommodate each other without losing their own identities. Patience is the key. Ann recalls that on many issues, her husband "became more cooperative as the years went by."

The largest parts of compromise are openness to the other's point of view and good communication when differences arise. In resolving these inevitable differences between marital partners, Iman points out, "Before either one makes a move, both must ask themselves, 'Is this pleasing to Allah? How does Allah view this?' This is the Islamic version of counting to 10 to prevent speaking out of anger." A harsh or unloving word may echo in a partner's mind long after it is spoken, causing resentment and damage to the emotional relationship even after the issue at hand is resolved.

Mahasin says, "We've always been able to use the Qur'an as a basis for any disagreements that we may have. We don't necessarily have to go and open it up every time we disagree, but our knowledge of Qur'an just flows as we communicate." It is important to keep communication going both ways. "Women," Mahasin advises, "should not withdraw and hold things in. Allah says, 'Qul!'--'Say!' Too many times we don't say. Somehow you have to talk about difficult issues."

On these lines, Mahasin advises, "Find ways to keep the romance. Marriage has to be nurtured."

It is important to remember that affections and courtesies must flow back and forth between both partners. "You have to have a deep respect for each other," Iman says. "A Muslimah should endeavor to please her Lord and to fulfill the obligations of her deen. [Seeing her] striving to do this, her husband should be pleased with her."

Ann notes, "A happy and successful marriage is based on equality. When one or the other dominates strongly, intimacy is replaced by fear of displeasing." Ann earned her doctorate in biology while married and raising three children. She says, "Expecting that a man will make you happy is unrealistic. We are individuals and as such we must each develop our own relationship with Allah."

A husband and wife, to paraphrase the Qur'an, are garments for each other. With work and persistence, and commitment on the part of both partners, a marriage can be long-lasting and successful, ultimately becoming like a favorite sweater, soft in just the right places, and worn with such love and ease that even the grayed spots are comforting and familiar.

Source: IslamiCity

http://www.islamicity.com/articles/Articles.asp?ref=AZ0602-2907

Western Girl
15-02-06, 10:25 AM
'Course its all an illusion. A good illusion mind. And you have to indulge in a bit of self-delusion, and a willing self-delusion at that.

But then the reality kicks in.

Marriage never has been, and never will be good for WOMAN. They have always got the bad end of the deal. Which is why they remain second class citizens. And have been forced to go out into this 'man's world' and take it back from them. Reducing the population as they go.

But hey, we're up for re-negotiating the deal :)

Any takers?

... Thought not ...

Carry on girls!

Go take back the planet!

muslim_sis
15-02-06, 10:49 AM
'Course its all an illusion. A good illusion mind. And you have to indulge in a bit of self-delusion, and a willing self-delusion at that.

But then the reality kicks in.

Marriage never has been, and never will be good for WOMAN. They have always got the bad end of the deal. Which is why they remain second class citizens. And have been forced to go out into this 'man's world' and take it back from them. Reducing the population as they go.

But hey, we're up for re-negotiating the deal :)

Any takers?

... Thought not ...

Carry on girls!

Go take back the planet!
western girl ... can u give me a full idea , from a western point of view (urs , i guess) of how u see women in islam ...?
oppressed?no right ? degraded with patriarchy ? etc - marriage, divorce,polygamy ... ?...what media portray, how much u believe of it...?
(im seriously wana know...plz,no argument:))

.: Anna :.
15-02-06, 11:13 AM
'Course its all an illusion. A good illusion mind. And you have to indulge in a bit of self-delusion, and a willing self-delusion at that.

But then the reality kicks in.

Marriage never has been, and never will be good for WOMAN. They have always got the bad end of the deal. Which is why they remain second class citizens. And have been forced to go out into this 'man's world' and take it back from them. Reducing the population as they go.

But hey, we're up for re-negotiating the deal :)

Any takers?

... Thought not ...

Carry on girls!

Go take back the planet!nah i dnt think its fair 2 see its not good for women...
we have different roles in marriage but they suit :S
whys it such an illusion?

muslim_sis
15-02-06, 11:19 AM
nah i dnt think its fair 2 see its not good for women...
we have different roles in marriage but they suit :S
whys it such an illusion?
well i guess people see it as that , because islam poratrays one thing and SOME muslims , especially in patriarchy societies show otherwise , and the men pick and choose what they want ... and thats where the media focuses on , not practising bros n sis , that are striving to give each spouse their right and accept their duties etc and follow the sunnah of the prophet , who is our exemplar , we follow his and his companions way and we enter jannah inshallah as he said ... so when he says , the best among men are those that are good to their wives, and the strongest among you are those who control their anger... u take it , and strive for it , if u believe in it (AL ISLAM , not picking and choosin what suits u)!!!

Universal_Islam
15-02-06, 12:21 PM
'Course its all an illusion. A good illusion mind. And you have to indulge in a bit of self-delusion, and a willing self-delusion at that.

But then the reality kicks in.

Marriage never has been, and never will be good for WOMAN. They have always got the bad end of the deal. Which is why they remain second class citizens. And have been forced to go out into this 'man's world' and take it back from them. Reducing the population as they go.

But hey, we're up for re-negotiating the deal :)

Any takers?

... Thought not ...

Carry on girls!

Go take back the planet!

looks like marriage for you is like a Boxing Match!!
If you were faced with some bad example during the course of your life, that doesn't mean reality is like what you see. You need to change your mentality if you wanna see things right...
women with twisted mentality like yours are those who always lose in life, whether they get married or not...

Anyways, marriage in Islam is a company between the husband and the wife. It's based on love, mercy, peace, help, support, and understanding...
And they solve their problems through discussion and peaceful argument...

There is no Kung-Fu or any kind of Boxing between them!!! :)

.: Anna :.
15-02-06, 12:32 PM
yup :D
lol unless they wna teach each other kung fu :p
my hubby taught me a little bit of wing chung! lol :D

Universal_Islam
15-02-06, 12:53 PM
yup :D
lol unless they wna teach each other kung fu :p
my hubby taught me a little bit of wing chung! lol :D
well.. don't forget to warm-up b4 u fight :)

BTW, though I like wing-chung (Bruce lee's style), I never trained in it..
I tried couple of years on different Kungfu styles...lol :)

K@M
15-02-06, 10:50 PM
Marriage, yo, woooo :hidban:

bint
16-02-06, 10:53 AM
Alhamdulillah...i can wait to get maried.:rolleyes:

mara
16-02-06, 05:49 PM
Alhamdulillah...i can wait to get maried.
I can wait too :). Its very important never give up to our expectations regarding the marriage issue. :)

SoulAsylum
18-02-06, 10:06 PM
Alhamdulillah...i can wait to get maried.:rolleyes:

Good attitude to have :up:

K@M
18-02-06, 10:37 PM
Alhamdulillah...i can wait to get maried.:rolleyes:

Make sure you don't wait too long or there will be no husband waiting for you :up:

On a related note, theres a hadith (paraphrased) where the Prophet Mohammed SAW said: "The Muslim should rush 3 things; The marriage, the paying of debts and the Janazah prayer"

lonely_me
18-02-06, 10:55 PM
^^ debts kill!

SoulAsylum
18-02-06, 10:56 PM
^^ debts kill!

U knw!

Bubblegoose
19-02-06, 08:08 PM
When it's meant to be it shall happen, not a second early nor a second late.

bint
19-02-06, 08:10 PM
Make sure you don't wait too long or there will be no husband waiting for you :up:

On a related note, theres a hadith (paraphrased) where the Prophet Mohammed SAW said: "The Muslim should rush 3 things; The marriage, the paying of debts and the Janazah prayer"


welll lets see im 19...ill marry at 24..unless Allah has ome other plans in store for me.:rubeyes:

Bubblegoose
19-02-06, 08:17 PM
welll lets see im 19...ill marry at 24..unless Allah has ome other plans in store for me.:rubeyes:

I'm still waiting for Allah to deliver my manifesto with regards to my marriage plans. It's kinda like waiting for your exam results, in a figure of speech.

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 08:18 PM
Get married when you can afford to :rolleyes:

Bubblegoose
19-02-06, 08:25 PM
Get married when you can afford to :rolleyes:

Love won't pay the rent agreed, however, monetary value shouldn't be applied to love, although, the price is heavy because you pay with your emotions. However, it's a sound purchase, if you know how to make it work properly.

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 08:33 PM
Love won't pay the rent agreed, however, monetary value shouldn't be applied to love, although, the price is heavy because you pay with your emotions. However, it's a sound purchase, if you know how to make it work properly.

Theres no guarantee its gonna work. You can not plan for every eveuntuality. But.....yeh if both of you are good, madly, deeply, truly in love with each other then theres good chance it will stand the test of time.

Bubblegoose
19-02-06, 08:44 PM
Theres no guarantee its gonna work. You can not plan for every eveuntuality. But.....yeh if both of you are good, madly, deeply, truly in love with each other then theres good chance it will stand the test of time.

As with anything in this life (bar death) there are no guarentees, you get the standard 12 months, plus an option to extend it for a further five years.

But seriously, as with any relationships it has it's ups and downs, beyond love, I think it comes down to give and take and compromise.

If you remain faithful to one another and stick together during those times when life and it's elements weather down upon your relationship, then Insha'Allah it will work (life time guarentee).

Personally, me thinks, whether young or old, be careful who you pick as your marriage partner, cos once the knot has been tied, thats it, you in it together through the peaks and troffs. Teamwork, you gotta be able to work well as a team, cos when it comes down to the crunch, not only are you lovers, but also each others best friends and partners for life. If the mix don't work, then thats it, external factors will interfere within your bond and try and break it down, stay close knit. Pick someone you compatible with, may Allah bless us all with good pious partners, Insha'Allah, Ameen.

muslimah85
19-02-06, 08:47 PM
As with anything in this life (bar death) there are no guarentees, you get the standard 12 months, plus an option to extend it for a further five years.

But seriously, as with any relationships it has it's ups and downs, beyond love, I think it comes down to give and take and compromise.

If you remain faithful to one another and stick together during those times when life and it's elements weather down upon your relationship, then Insha'Allah it will work (life time guarentee).

Personally, me thinks, whether young or old, be careful who you pick as your marriage partner, cos once the knot has been tied, thats it, you in it together through the peaks and troffs. Teamwork, you gotta be able to work well as a team, cos when it comes down to the crunch, not only are you lovers, but also each others best friends and partners for life. If the mix don't work, then thats it, external factors will interfere within your bond and try and break it down, stay close knit. Pick someone you compatible with, may Allah bless us all with good pious partners, Insha'Allah, Ameen.
excellently put :)

ameen

muslimah85
19-02-06, 08:52 PM
take time getting to know each other. We tend to rush into marriage too quickly.

Comprimise is such a big factor, things irritate you , habits get on your nerves but you gotta meet in the middle. Were not perfect and we shouldnt expect our partners to be.

Most of all dont have high expectations. That way you wont be dissapointed

bint
19-02-06, 08:54 PM
personally i wud like to get to know my fella.:rolleyes:

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 08:55 PM
What it comes down to is, you got to be good as lovers. That attraction, that spark, that fires got to be there in the beginning and the rest just falls into palce.

That attraction does'nt have be purely physical, it can be based on an intellectual attraction, a mental attraction, a similar liking of ideas and where you want to be and what you want to get out of life.

An attraction of the soul.

muslimah85
19-02-06, 08:56 PM
personally i wud like to get to know my fella.:rolleyes:
i should hope we all do :p


but you only know someone for real when your married, then your stuck! :D

muslimah85
19-02-06, 08:58 PM
What it comes down to is, you got to be good as lovers. That attraction, that spark, that fires got to be there in the beginning and the rest just falls into palce.

That attraction does'nt have be purely physical, it can be based on an intellectual attraction, a mental attraction, a similar liking of ideas and where you want to be and what you want to get out of life.

An attraction of the soul.
exactly, you have to be a stimulation for one another, not essentially in a physical manner but in a mental state too.

Like two pieces of a jigsaw, clicking together

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 09:01 PM
exactly, you have to be a stimulation for one another, not essentially in a physical manner but in a mental state too.

Like two pieces of a jigsaw, clicking together

Good way of putting it.....

two pieces of a jigsaw clicking together :up:

Banging!

Bubblegoose
19-02-06, 09:05 PM
I guess we all have our own idea of what we want.

I hope Allah fulfills our dua's.

At the end of the day, marriage is a covenant ,between the two partners and Allah bears witness over this covenant.

Allah's pleasure is within you fulfilling this covenant, be pleased with one another, treat each other with kindness, consideration and understanding, above all mutual respect.

As you may well know, those who love each other for the sake of Allah, shall receive shade from the throne of Allah, on the hot blistering day of Kiyamet.

Allah knows best what is hidden within the hearts of humans and who loves another for the sake of Allah.

You all right though, the spark has got to be there from the start, like two pieces of a jigsaw clicking together, I like that analogy.

muslimah85
19-02-06, 09:05 PM
its not hard finding someone like that :inlove:

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 09:07 PM
its not hard finding someone like that :inlove:

No it is'nt.

muslimah85
19-02-06, 09:09 PM
sometimes its more about the unspoken bond between you both that is more important that anything, something you cant express, something words cant express. But when you reach that level, then you know you've made it

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 09:10 PM
its not hard finding someone like that :inlove:

And the other thing is, you got to be honest with each other.

Right down to the bone, honesty goes a long way in keeping two people together :D

marjan
19-02-06, 09:10 PM
Get the married, married?!

muslimah85
19-02-06, 09:11 PM
And the other thing is, you got to be honest with each other.

Right down to the bone, honesty goes a long way in keeping two people together :D
'brutally honest' ive been told :p

but it works :up:

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 09:12 PM
sometimes its more about the unspoken bond between you both that is more important that anything, something you cant express, something words cant express. But when you reach that level, then you know you've made it

Telepathic lovers......yeh :inlove:

Like in that ronan keating song -

You say it best when you say nothing at all :inlove:

muslimah85
19-02-06, 09:14 PM
When you have once seen the glow of happiness on the face of a beloved person, you know that a man can have no vocation but to awaken that light on the faces surrounding him. In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. --Albert Camus (1913-19

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 09:21 PM
When you have once seen the glow of happiness on the face of a beloved person, you know that a man can have no vocation but to awaken that light on the faces surrounding him. In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. --Albert Camus (1913-19

Woahhhh..........

Thats what its all about :up:

Go......go chase your dreams and make them true

like pearls in the deep ocean :inlove:

lonely_me
19-02-06, 09:24 PM
I'll let fate decide for me...

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 09:26 PM
I'll let fate decide for me...

:rolleyes:

Guardian Hijab
19-02-06, 09:27 PM
I'll let fate decide for me...
yep:D. That's rrrrrrrrright!

Bubblegoose
19-02-06, 09:35 PM
When you have once seen the glow of happiness on the face of a beloved person, you know that a man can have no vocation but to awaken that light on the faces surrounding him. In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. --Albert Camus (1913-19

That's deep, but who was Albert Camus?

I walked for what seemed like an eternity through rows upon rows of thorn bushes, just to find you. Through it all I endured countless cuts, grazes and abrations, I was one of the walking wounded, but something stirred deep within me, and inclined me to walk further. So I willed my tired and injured legs to journey further, through the thorn bushes, that continued to larcerate my body like cutlasses. However, despite all the blood, sweat and tears, it was worth it, for embedded deep amongst the rows of thorns there blossomed the most beautifulest rose, and when I finally reached her, she kissed me, and the pain within subsided, then the rows of thorns waned and died and in there place Allah raised a garden of beautiful roses. But none as beautiful as her, for there was none like her. (by Bubblegoose erm made up in the last few minutes or something)

Ebony
19-02-06, 09:39 PM
That's deep, but who was Albert Camus?

An author, most commonly known for his book The Strangers.

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/acamus.htm

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 09:39 PM
That's deep, but who was Albert Camus?

I walked for what seemed like an eternity through rows upon rows of thorn bushes, just to find you. Through it all I endured countless cuts, grazes and abrations, I was one of the walking wounded, but something stirred deep within me, and inclined me to walk further. So I willed my tired and injured legs to journey further, through the thorn bushes, that continued to larcerate my body like cutlasses. However, despite all the blood, sweat and tears, it was worth it, for embedded deep amongst the rows of thorns there blossomed the most beautifulest rose, and when I finally reached her, she kissed me, and the pain within subsided, then the rows of thorns waned and died and in there place Allah raised a garden of beautiful roses. But none as beautiful as her, for there was none like her. (by Bubblegoose erm made up in the last few minutes or something)

Thats deep bro :up:

SoulAsylum
19-02-06, 09:44 PM
Never read Albert Camus.....

might have a look into him.

muslimah85
23-02-06, 10:37 AM
Never read Albert Camus.....

might have a look into him.
quite a talented author

Refugee
23-02-06, 10:41 AM
Get the Single Married:

My Answer: Easier said then done !

muslimah85
23-02-06, 10:42 AM
Get the Single Married:

My Answer: Better said then done !
exactly ! :up:

OthaEllen
20-04-06, 03:58 AM
chivalry is dead and woman killed it
That's not fair!:) Most modern women tend to appreciate chivalry.

OthaEllen
20-04-06, 04:04 AM
The article posted outlined many excellent reasons for getting married. When I was younger I was under the impression that love was a physical feeling, and wouldn't have considered marriage to someone that I wasn't completely taken back by. However, now that I'm an old woman;) I view love to be an action, opposed to a feeling. I hate to say it but "love" for me many years ago was actually lust.

So, to answer some of your questions, I personally think that there are many marriageable people available, we just need to make sure we are defining "love" correctly.