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abdulhakeem
26-10-03, 10:07 AM
Question:

Non-muslim dies, and I know him/her. As far as I know this person beleived and accepted Islam, but died before they could convert. What does Islam say about such a person, is he/she forgiven by Allah or still considered as one of the "kaffar"?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

If a person does not pronounce the Shahaadatayn and enter Islaam, we cannot say that he is a Muslim, even if he admired Islaam and recognized that it the best religion, a great religion, and so on. Abu Taalib, the uncle of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died a kaafir, and Allaah forbade His Prophet to pray for forgiveness for him, even though he used to defend the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said in his poems:

"I do know that the religion of Muhammad is better than all other religions of mankind;
were it not for fear of blame or slander, you would find me accepting it completely."

If a person accepts Islaam out of conviction, and begins to practise it, then he is a Muslim, even if he does not register his Islaam officially, or go to a court or Islaamic centre to obtain documentation, or announce it to others. If such a person dies, then we hope for Paradise for him and pray for mercy for him.

And Allaah is the One Who sees all that His slaves do.

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abdulhakeem
26-10-03, 10:35 AM
Become Muslim first, then do not worry about your past

Question:

i'm a young girl, wanting to convert to islam, for me this religion is really the truth. The problem is, that before i discovered islam, i used to live a pretty wild life, I did a lot of wrong things (if not all wrong things). I would like to know if it's possible for a girl like me to convert, and what should I do regarding my past when converting

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

In the name of Allaah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

“The revelation of the Book (this Qur’aan) is from Allaah, the All Mighty, the All Knower.

The Forgiver of sin, the Acceptor of repentance, the Severe in punishment, the Bestower (of favours). Laa ilaaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), to Him is the final return”[Ghaafir 40:2-3 – interpretation of the meaning]

Ibn ‘Abbaas – who was one of the companions of the Prophet of Islam (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – narrated that some of the people of shirk (polytheism) killed and did a lot of killing, and they committed adultery and they did that a great deal, then they came to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “What you say and what you are calling for is good. If only you could tell us that there is any expiation for what we have done.” Then Allaah revealed the words (interpretation of the meaning):

‘Say: “O ‘Ibaadi (My slaves) who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allaah, verily, Allaah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful.

And turn in repentance and in obedience with true Faith (Islamic Monotheism) to your Lord and submit to Him (in Islam) before the torment comes upon you, (and) then you will not be helped.

And follow the best of that which is sent down to you from your Lord (i.e. this Qur’aan, do what it orders you to do and keep away from what it forbids), before the torment comes on you suddenly while you perceive not!”

Lest a person should say: “Alas, my grief that I was undutiful to Allaah (i.e. I have not done what Allaah has ordered me to do), and I was indeed among those who mocked [at the truth! i.e. Laa ilaaha illAllaah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allaah), the Qur’aan, and Muhammad and at the faithful believers]

Or (lest) he should say: “If only Allaah had guided me, I should indeed have been among the Muttaqoon (the pious).”

Or (lest) he should say when he sees the torment: “If only I had another chance (to return to the world), then I should indeed be among the Muhsinoon (good‑doers).”

Yes! Verily, there came to you My Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and you denied them, and were proud and were among the disbelievers.’[al-Zumar 39:53-59]”

‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas was a mushrik (polytheist, idol-worshipper), a sinner and an enemy of Allaah. He said: “When Allaah put the love of Islam into my heart, I came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to pledge my allegiance to him. He stretched out his hand towards me, but I said, ‘I will not pledge allegiance to you, O Messenger of Allaah, until you forgive me my previous sins.’ The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to me, ‘O ‘Amr, do you not know that Islam wipes out whatever sins came before it.’” (Narrated by Imaam Ahmad, 17159).

So flee to Allaah and know that there is nothing that you are worried about, but the solution to it is to be found in the texts quoted above. Indeed, these texts are addressed to you; they refer to your situation and contain the answer to your problem.

Your Lord is Most Merciful; He accepts repentance and forgives all sins. His Mercy encompasses all things. He calls you and all His slaves to repent and to become Muslim. He has promised you, through the words of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), that all of your previous sins, major and minor, of whatever type, will be wiped out completely when you become Muslim, and you will start with a clean sheet, a new record of deeds that is free of bad deeds. So what are you waiting for? Why delay it any further? Hasten to enter Islam and worship your Lord, and we give you the glad tidings of a happy future and a good life in the shade of Islam. We were very happy – by Allaah – to receive your question, and we are waiting to hear good news.

For more information on how to enter Islam, please look at Questions #703&11936 and Embracing Islam (http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=serv&lv=embracing&dgn=4). May Allaah protect you from all evil, for He is the Best of Protectors and the Best of Supporters, and He is the Guide to the Straight Path.

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Jaserah
26-10-03, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by abdulhakeem
Question:

Non-muslim dies, and I know him/her. As far as I know this person beleived and accepted Islam, but died before they could convert. What does Islam say about such a person, is he/she forgiven by Allah or still considered as one of the "kaffar"?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

If a person does not pronounce the Shahaadatayn and enter Islaam, we cannot say that he is a Muslim, even if he admired Islaam and recognized that it the best religion, a great religion, and so on. Abu Taalib, the uncle of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died a kaafir, and Allaah forbade His Prophet to pray for forgiveness for him, even though he used to defend the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said in his poems:

"I do know that the religion of Muhammad is better than all other religions of mankind;
were it not for fear of blame or slander, you would find me accepting it completely."

If a person accepts Islaam out of conviction, and begins to practise it, then he is a Muslim, even if he does not register his Islaam officially, or go to a court or Islaamic centre to obtain documentation, or announce it to others. If such a person dies, then we hope for Paradise for him and pray for mercy for him.

And Allaah is the One Who sees all that His slaves do.

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jazakAllah. you have no idea what a good feeling reading this gave me. you see, i never really announced my shahadah at a mosque or anything. i married my husband in the mosque, but i knew i believed. i was nervous and shy, and at the time i thought i would come back again to take my shahadah at a different time. but soon later i just started practicing islam, and praying with him, learning, and reading Qu'ran and i knew i believed. so it was like i just became muslim, and i knew it was right. i have said la ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur Rasoolullah, but not with 3 witnesses of anything like that, and so ofcourse now i say it every prayer, and throughout the day, etc. so anyway, a year later, as a muslimah, it has always been in the back of my mind that since i didn't register, and didn't take shahadah at the mosque, am i really muslim? i practice, i wear hijjab, i make my salat, fast, etc... but that thought has always been there. now, alhamdulillah, this post has made me feel much better about that tiny little thought that was in the back of my mind. :D again, jazakAllah. just thought i would share that. :love: :inlove: Allahu Akbar.

.: Anna :.
26-10-03, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Jaserah
jazakAllah. you have no idea what a good feeling reading this gave me. you see, i never really announced my shahadah at a mosque or anything. i married my husband in the mosque, but i knew i believed. i was nervous and shy, and at the time i thought i would come back again to take my shahadah at a different time. but soon later i just started practicing islam, and praying with him, learning, and reading Qu'ran and i knew i believed. so it was like i just became muslim, and i knew it was right. i have said la ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur Rasoolullah, but not with 3 witnesses of anything like that, and so ofcourse now i say it every prayer, and throughout the day, etc. so anyway, a year later, as a muslimah, it has always been in the back of my mind that since i didn't register, and didn't take shahadah at the mosque, am i really muslim? i practice, i wear hijjab, i make my salat, fast, etc... but that thought has always been there. now, alhamdulillah, this post has made me feel much better about that tiny little thought that was in the back of my mind. :D again, jazakAllah. just thought i would share that. :love: :inlove: Allahu Akbar.

sis, I havent done mine with witnesses at the mosque either, cuz everytime I mentioned it to my parents they said they want me to wait, so inshallah when i get older i might do it with witnesses even tho i am already muslim...

actually : can u do that? what if u've been muslim for years but u didnt do it with witnesses n get the official "certificate" n stuff can u still go and do it cuz its not exactly like u are only just convertin is it? ne1 know about that?

but yeah, sis we're still muslim of course :love: & alhamdulillah 4 that :D :inlove:

Jaserah
26-10-03, 06:12 PM
i know sis, that would be so weird, to be muslim this whole time and then years later, take an "official shahadah". i don't really think it is necessary. but what is the purpose of registering anyway? i don't know, maybe someone else could shed some light here inshAllah, its a bit confusing. but Allah knows our intentions :D

.: Anna :.
26-10-03, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Jaserah
i know sis, that would be so weird, to be muslim this whole time and then years later, take an "official shahadah". i don't really think it is necessary. but what is the purpose of registering anyway? i don't know, maybe someone else could shed some light here inshAllah, its a bit confusing. but Allah knows our intentions :D well....if u officially register it helps when u want to go on Hajj because if u are revert / convert / whatever word u prefer, sometimes i think u have to prove it that u are a muslim cuz the authorities want to be sure its only muslims goin in that area, or thats what i've heard
otherwise i think u can get the imam or someone to say that he knows you or something like that? i'm not really sure
but yeah i spose it would be a bit weird 2 take an official shahada later...kind of like u werent really muslim b4 that :banghead:
oh i dunno!! yeah, allah knows r intentions :D inshallah he will accept r Islam n keep us always on the rite path. ameen

Jaserah
26-10-03, 06:18 PM
ameen :D

btw, thanks for the info, i never thought of that. jazakAllah

abdulhakeem
26-10-03, 09:28 PM
It is not essential to have witnesses in order to enter Islam

Question:

My question is one concerning, when a non muslim wants to accept the Shahadah. Do witnesses need to be present? I remember a hadith mentioning a man who killed 99 ppl and was sent to heaven b/c of his intentions of coming towards islam?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

It is not essential for the one who wants to utter the twin testimony of faith (al-shahaadatayn) to have witnesses present. He may simply utter the words with his tongue, and that is sufficient for him to enter Islam.

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abdulhakeem
26-10-03, 09:31 PM
How To Become a Mulim ?

Question:


Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

All praise be to Allah, the lord of the universe. May peace and blessings of Allah be upon Mohammad, His last messenger.

The purpose of this hand-out is to correct a false idea spread among those willing to adopt Islam as their faith. Some people have a wrong notion that entering into th Islamic fold requires an announcement from the concerned person in the presence of high ranking scholars or shaikhs or reporting this act to courts of justice or other authorities. It is also thought that the act accepting Islam, should, as a condition, have a certificate issued by the authorities, as evidence to that effect.

We wish to clarify that whole matter is very easy and that none of these conditions or obligations are required. For Allah, Almighty, is above all comprehension and knows well the secrets of all hearts. Nevertheless, those who are going to adopt Islam as their religion are advised to register themselves as Muslims with the concerned governmental agency, as this procedure may facilitate for them many matters including the possibility of performing Hajj (Pilgrimage) and Umrah.

If anyone has a real desire to be a muslim and has full conviction and strong belief that Islam is the true religion ordained by Allah for all human-being, then, one should pronounce the “shahada”, the testimony of faith, without further delay. The Holy Qur’an is explicit on this regard as Allah states :

“The Religion in the sight of Allah is Islam” (Qur’an 3:19)

in another verse of the Holy Qur’an, Allah states :

“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (Submission to Allah), Never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (their selves in the hell fire).” (Qur’an 3:85)

In addition, Islam is the only religion prevailing over all other religions. Allah states in the Holy Qur’an :

“To thee We sent the Scripture in the truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety :…. (Qur’an 5:48)

Mohammad, the Prophet of Allah (Peace and blessing of Allah be upon him), said :

“The superstructure of Islam is raised on five (pillars) : testifying that there is no God (none truly to be worshipped) but Allah, and that Mohammad is the messenger of Allah, performing the prayer, paying the Zakah (poor-due), fasting the month of Ramadan, and performing Hajj.”

The Shahada can be declared as follows :

“ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH”.

The English translation is :

“I bear witness that there is no deity (none truly to be worshipped) but, Allah, and I bear witness that Mohammad is the messenger of Allah.”

However, it would not be sufficient for anyone to only utter this testimony oraly either in private or in public; but rather, he should believe in it by heart with a firm conviction and unshakeable faith. If one is truly sincere and complies with the teachings of Islam in all his life, he will find himself a new born person.

This will move him to strive more and more to improve his character and draw nearer to perfection. The light of the living faith will fill his heart until he becomes the embodiment of that faith.

What would be next after declaring oneself a Muslim ? one should then know the real concept underlying this testimony which means the oneness of Allah and meet its requiremants. One must behave accordingly, applying this true faith to every thing one speaks or does.

What do the words of the “Shahada” signify? The significant point which every Muslim must know very well is the truth that there is no God (deity) to be worshipped other than Allah. He-glory be to Him – is the only true God, Who alone deserves to be worshipped, since He is the Giver of life and Sustainer and Nourisher of mankind and all creation with His unlimited bounties. Man must worship Allah, Who alone is worthy of worship.

The second part of the Shahada “i.e., Wa Ash-hadu anna Mohammadan abduhu wa rasuluh” means that Prophet Mohammad (Peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) is the servant and chosen messenger of Allah. No one must have two opinions about this matter. In fact the Muslim has to obey the commands of the Prophet (Peace and blessing of Allah be upon him), to believe him in what he has said, to practise his teachings, to avoid what ha has forbidden, and to worship Allah alone according to the message revealed to him, for all the teachings of the Prophet were in fact revelation and inspirations conveyed to him by Allah.

What is the meaning of worship? It simply means rendering sincere service, showing reverence for Allah. In a deeper shade of meaning, it implies total submission and complete obedience to Allah’s commandments both in utterances and actions of man whether explicit or implicit.

Worship fall into two categories :

Visible (manifest or outward).
Invisible (concealed or inward).
Visible worship includes acts such as uttering the two parts of the “Shahada”, performing prayers, giving Zakah (the poor-due), recitation of the Holy Qur’an, supplication, adoring Allah by praising Him, purifying our bodies before prayers, etc.

This type of worship is associated with movement of the parts of the human body.

Invisible worship is to believe in Allah, in the Day of Judgement (in the Hereafter), in the Angels, in the Books of Allah, in the Prophets of Allah, in the Divine Decree of destiny (that good and bad are determined by Allah alone).

This type worship does not involve movement of parts of the body but it surely has bearing on one’s heart which subsequently affects one’s way of life.

It should be borne in mind that any worship not dedicated to Allah alone will be rejected as one form of polytheism and this causes apostasy from the Islamic fold.

The next step for a newly revert to Islam is the purify himself by taking a cmplete bath. He should then resolve to comply with the principles and rules of Islam in their entirety. He should disown all forms of polytheism and false beliefs. He should reject evil and be rigtheous. Such rejection of evil and being righteous is one of the requisites of the motto of Islam – that is, Laa ilaha illallah.

Allah states in the Holy qur’an :

“…whoever rejects evil and believes in the Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy Hand-hold, that never breaks…” (Qur’an 2:256).

We have to consider that when declare from our heart that “ there is no god (deity) worthy to be worshipped but Allah”, it implies on our part love, devotion, faith and obedience to the rules of Islamic legislations which are legally binding on all Muslims. It is a requiremant of “there is no god worthy to be worshipped but Allah” to love for the sake of Allah and to reject for the sake of Allah.

This is the firmest anchor of belief which materialise the meaning of “AL WALA” and “AL BARA”. It means that a Muslim should love and be loyal to his Muslim brothers. He should, as a practise, dissociate himself completely from the unbelievers and refuse to be influenced by them, both in wordly and religious matters.

We conclude with a humble prayer to Allah that may He cleanse the hearts and souls of those who are genuine seekers of truth and may He bless the community of believers.

Aameen.

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Jaserah
27-10-03, 01:18 AM
“…whoever rejects evil and believes in the Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy Hand-hold, that never breaks…” (Qur’an 2:256).
:love: :love: :love: mashAllah

AbuMubarak
23-07-04, 01:22 AM
:masha:

Abdullah al-Muhajir
30-08-04, 10:42 AM
:sub:

AbuMubarak
30-08-04, 11:44 AM
it has always been my understanding, that based upon the hadith of the messenger of Allah, whosoever prays with us, is a muslim

to answer the adhan and iqama is also taking shahada, because the shahada is in both, as well as within the salat

unless i am wrong about this

abdulhakeem
30-03-05, 02:01 AM
Consequences for one who does not adhere to Islam

Question : What are the consequences for one who does not adhere to Islam?

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.
As you know, Islam is the religion of Allaah, and it is the true religion. It is the religion which was brought by all the Prophets and Messengers. Allaah has prepared a great reward in this world and in the hereafter for those who believe in it, and He has prepared a severe punishment for those who disbelieve in it.

Allaah is the Creator and Sovereign, the One Who is in control of this universe, and you, O man, are part of His creation; He has subjugated to you all that is in the universe, and has prescribed His laws for you, which He has commanded you to follow. If you believe and obey what He has commanded you and keep away from what He has prohibited to you, then you will attain that eternal bliss which He has promised you in the Hereafter, and you will be happy in this world because of the different kinds of blessings which He will bestow upon you, and you will be akin to the most wise of creation and the purest in heart, namely the Prophets, Messengers, righteous and angels who are close to Allaah.

But if you disbelieve and disobey your Lord, you will lose in this world and in the Hereafter. You will be exposed to His wrath and punishment in this world and in the Hereafter. You will be akin to the most evil and foolish of creation, and worse than the devils, wrongdoers, evildoers and false gods. This is in general terms.

I will explain to you something about the consequences of kufr, the details of which are as follows:

1 – Fear and lack of security

Allaah has promised those who believe in Him and follow His Messengers complete security in this world and in the Hereafter. He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“It is those who believe (in the Oneness of Allaah and worship none but Him Alone) and confuse not their Belief with Zulm (wrong, i.e. by worshipping others besides Allaah), for them (only) there is security and they are the guided”

[al-An’aam 6:82]

Allaah is al-Mu’min (the Giver of security) and al-Muhaymin (the Watcher over His creatures); He is the Sovereign of all that exists in the universe. If Allaah loves a person for his faith then He will grant him security, tranquility and contentment. If a man disbelieves in Him He will take away his tranquility and security, so you will only see him either fearful about his destiny in the Hereafter, or fearing sickness for himself, or fearing for his future in this world. This is why the insurance business was established, to insure people’s lives and property, because of the lack of security and the lack of trust in Allaah.

2 – A life of hardship

Allaah has created man and has subjugated to him all that is in the universe. He has decreed for every creature its share of provision and its life span. So you see the bird going out from its nest in the morning to seek its provision, which it picks up, flying from branch to branch and singing the most beautiful songs. Man is one of these creatures whose provision and lifespan is already allocated. If he believes in his Lord and adheres to His laws, He will bless him with happiness and stability, and make things easy for him, even if he is only given the bare necessities of life.

But if he disbelieves in Him, and arrogantly refuses to worship him, He will make his life hard and fill him with worries and distress, even if he possesses all kinds of comforts and luxuries. Do you not see how many suicides in the world are committed by people who have all kinds of luxuries? Do you not see the extravagant spending on furniture and travel aimed at enjoying life? What makes people spend extravagantly is the fact that their hearts are devoid of faith, and their feeling that life is difficult and hard; it is an attempt to rid themselves of these feelings by ever-changing means. Allaah indeed spoke the truth when He said:

“But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Qur’aan nor acts on its teachings) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection”

[Ta-Ha 20:124]

3 – He will live in conflict with himself and with the universe around him

That is because his own soul was created to believe in and worship Allaah alone (i.e., Tawheed). Allaah says:

“Allaah’s Fitrah (i.e. Allaah’s Islamic Monotheism) with which He has created mankind”[al-Room 30:30]

His body submits to its Creator, and acts in accordance with His system, but the kaafir insists on going against his own innate nature and lives in such a way that in matters where he is given a choice, he always chooses to follow the way which goes against the command of his Lord, so even if his body is surrendering to the laws of Allaah, in matters of choice he chooses to oppose the laws of Allaah.

He is in a state of conflict with the universe around him, because this entire universe, from the hugest galaxies to the tiniest insect is operating in accordance with the laws that Allaah has decreed for it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Then He rose over (Istawa) towards the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth: ‘Come both of you willingly or unwillingly.’ They both said: ‘We come willingly’”[Fussilat 41:11]

Indeed, this universe loves the one who also submits to Allaah, and it hates the one who goes against that. The kaafir is the rebellious one in this universe, where he sets himself up in opposition to his Lord, rallying others to oppose Him too. Hence it comes as no surprise that the heavens and the earth and all creatures hate him and hate his kufr and heresy. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And they say: ‘The Most Gracious (Allaah) has begotten a son (or offspring or children) [as the Jews say: ‘Uzayr (Ezra) is the son of Allaah, and the Christians say that He has begotten a son [‘Eesa (Jesus)], and the pagan Arabs say that He has begotten daughters (angels and others)].’

Indeed you have brought forth (said) a terrible evil thing.

Whereby the heavens are almost torn, and the earth is split asunder, and the mountains fall in ruins,

That they ascribe a son (or offspring or children) to the Most Gracious (Allaah).

But it is not suitable for (the Majesty of) the Most Gracious (Allaah) that He should beget a son (or offspring or children).

There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Gracious (Allaah) as a slave”[Maryam 19:88-93]

And Allaah says of Pharaoh and his troops:

“And the heavens and the earth wept not for them, nor were they given a respite”[al-Dukhaan 44:29]

4 – He will live in ignorance

For kufr is ignorance, indeed it is the greatest form of ignorance, because the kaafir is ignorant of his Lord and he sees this universe that He created in such an amazing way, and he sees how great is his own creation, then he ignores the One Who created this universe and Who created him. Is this not the greatest form of ignorance?

5 – He will wrong himself and wrong those around him

Because he is subjugating himself to something other than that for which he was created, and because he does not worship his Lord, rather he worships someone other than Him. Wrongdoing means putting something in the wrong place, and what wrongdoing is greater than directing worship to someone other than the One Who deserves it? Luqmaan the Wise said, explaining the abhorrent nature of shirk:

“O my son! Join not in worship others with Allaah. Verily, joining others in worship with Allaah is a great Zulm (wrong) indeed”

[Luqmaan 31:13 – interpretation of the meaning]

He also does wrong to others around him, humans and other creatures, because he does not recognize the rights of those who have rights. When the Day of Resurrection comes, everyone whom he wronged, whether human or animal, will stand before him and will ask his Lord to settle the score between them.

6 – He exposes himself to the wrath and anger of Allaah in this world

He is exposed to that because disasters and calamities will befall him, as a punishment in this world. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Do then those who devise evil plots feel secure that Allaah will not sink them into the earth, or that the torment will not seize them from directions they perceive not?

Or that He may catch them in the midst of their going to and fro (in their jobs), so that there be no escape for them (from Allaah’s punishment)?”

[al-Nahl 16:45-46]

“And a disaster will not cease to strike those who disbelieved because of their (evil) deeds or it (i.e. the disaster) settles close to their homes, until the Promise of Allaah comes to pass. Certainly, Allaah breaks not His Promise”

[al-Ra’d 13:31]

“Or, did the people of the towns then feel secure against the coming of Our punishment in the forenoon while they were playing?”

[al-A’raaf 7:98]

This is the situation of everyone who turns away from the remembrance of Allaah. Allaah said, telling us of the punishments that befall the earlier disbelieving nations (interpretation of the meaning):

“So We punished each (of them) for his sins, of them were some on whom We sent Haasib (a violent wind with shower of stones) [as on the people of Loot (Lot)], and of them were some who were overtaken by As‑Sayhah [torment — awful cry, (as Thamood or Shu‘ayb’s people)], and of them were some whom We caused the earth to swallow [as Qaaroon (Korah)], and of them were some whom We drowned [as the people of Nooh (Noah), or Fir‘awn (Pharaoh) and his people]. It was not Allaah Who wronged them, but they wronged themselves”

[al-‘Ankaboot 29:40]

And you see the disasters around you that have befallen people as a punishment and vengeance from Allaah.

7 – Disappointment and loss are decreed for him

Because of his wrongdoing he will lose out on the greatest things that hearts and souls can enjoy, which is knowing Allaah and conversing with Him, and finding peace and contentment in Him. He will lose in this world because he will live a life of misery and confusion therein, and he will lose his own soul for the sake of which he has been striving, because he did not subjugate it to the purpose for which it was created. He will not be happy in this world, because his soul lives a miserable life and dies a miserable death, and it will be resurrected with the doomed. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And as for those whose Scale will be light, they are those who will lose their ownselves (by entering Hell)”[al-A’raaf 7:9]

And he will lose his family, because he lives with them in a state of disbelief in Allaah, so they are the same as him in their misery and hard life, and their ultimate destiny will be the Fire. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“The losers are those who will lose themselves and their families on the Day of Resurrection”[al-Zumar 39:15, al-Shoora 42:45]

On the Day of Resurrection they will be gathered into Hell, what an evil abode. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(It will be said to the angels): ‘Assemble those who did wrong, together with their companions (from the devils) and what they used to worship,

Instead of Allaah, and lead them on to the way of flaming Fire (Hell)’”

[al-Saaffaat 37:22-23]

He lives disbelieving in his Lord and denying His blessings

Allaah created him from nothing, and bestowed all kinds of blessings upon him. How can he then worship someone other than Him, and take as a friend someone other than Him, and give thanks to someone other than Him? What denial can be greater or more abhorrent than this?

9 – He will be deprived of true life

That is because the one who deserves a good life is the one who believes in his Lord and knows his purpose in life, who knows where he is going and is certain that he will be resurrected. So he acknowledges the rights of all those who have rights, and he does not deny any rights, or harm any other creature. He lives the life of the blessed and enjoys a good life in this world and in the Hereafter. Allaah says:

“Whoever works righteousness — whether male or female — while he (or she) is a true believer (of Islamic Monotheism) verily, to him We will give a good life”[al-Nahl 16:97]

“and pleasant dwellings in ‘Adn (Eden) Paradise; that is indeed the great success”[al-Saff 61:12]

As for the one who lives a life akin to that of the animals, not knowing his Lord or knowing his aim in life or where he is headed, rather his aim is to eat, drink and sleep … what difference is there between him and the rest of the animals? Indeed, he is further astray. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And surely, We have created many of the jinn and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, and they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). They are like cattle, nay even more astray; those! They are the heedless ones”

[al-A’raaf 7:179]

“Or do you think that most of them hear or understand? They are only like cattle nay, they are even farther astray from the Path (i.e. even worse than cattle)”[al-Furqaan 25:44]

10 – He will be punished eternally

The kaafir will move from one torment to another, in the sense that he will depart from this world – where he is exposed to shocks and calamities – to the Hereafter. In the first stage (of this transition) the angels of death will descend upon him, preceded by the angels of torment who will give him a taste of the punishment that he deserves. Allaah says:

“And if you could see when the angels take away the souls of those who disbelieve (at death); they smite their faces and their backs…”[al-Anfaal 8:50]

Then when his soul has come forth and he is placed in his grave, he is met with a more severe torment. Allaah says, speaking of the people of Pharaoh:

“The Fire, they are exposed to it, morning and afternoon. And on the Day when the Hour will be established (it will be said to the angels): ‘Cause Fir‘awn’s (Pharaoh) people to enter the severest torment!’”[Ghaafir 40:46]

Then the Day of Resurrection will come and all creatures will be resurrected and shown their deeds, and the kaafir will see that Allaah has listed all of his deeds in that book of which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And the Book (one’s Record) will be placed (in the right hand for a believer in the Oneness of Allaah, and in the left hand for a disbeliever in the Oneness of Allaah), and you will see the Mujrimoon (criminals, polytheists, sinners), fearful of that which is (recorded) therein. They will say: ‘Woe to us! What sort of Book is this that leaves neither a small thing nor a big thing, but has recorded it with numbers!’”[al-Kahf 18:49]

Then the kaafir will wish that he were dust:

“the Day when man will see that (the deeds) which his hands have sent forth, and the disbeliever will say: ‘Woe to me! Would that I were dust!’”

[al-Naba’ 78:40 – interpretation of the meaning]

Because of the horrors of that situation [on the Day of Resurrection], if a man possessed all that is on earth he would give it to ransom himself from the torment of that Day. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And those who did wrong (the polytheists and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allaah), if they had all that is in earth and therewith as much again, they verily, would offer it to ransom themselves therewith”

[al-Zumar 39:47]

“The Mujrim, (criminal, sinner, disbeliever) would desire to ransom himself from the punishment of that Day by his children.

And his wife and his brother,

And his kindred who sheltered him,

And all that are in the earth, so that it might save him”

[al-Ma’aarij 70:11-14]

That abode is the abode of requital and not the abode of hope, so man must inevitably face the requital for his deeds: if they were good, then it will be good, and if they were bad, then it will be bad. The worst that the kaafir will encounter on the Day of Resurrection will be the torment of the Fire. Allaah has created different kinds of torment for its inhabitants so that they may taste the consequences of their deeds. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“This is the Hell which the Mujrimoon (polytheists, criminals, sinners) denied.

They will go between it (Hell) and the fierce boiling water!”
[al-Rahmaan 55:43-44]

And He says, describing their drink and clothing (interpretation of the meaning):

“then as for those who disbelieved, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling water will be poured down over their heads.

With it will melt (or vanish away) what is within their bellies, as well as (their) skins.

And for them are hooked rods of iron (to punish them)”

[al-Hajj 22:19-21]




From al-Islam Usooluhu wa Mabaadi’uhu by Dr. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Saalih al-Suhaym. (www.islam-qa.com (http://www.islam-qa.com))

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abdulhakeem
30-03-05, 02:04 AM
Will good deeds avail a person anything if he dies as a kaafir?

Question : When a non-muslim, leads the life in this world not committing any major sins, doing all good deeds as he can, and lives as a very good human-being and dies as a non-muslim, will he be going to heaven because of good deeds or will be led into hell since he was not a muslim and (knowingly or unknowingly)not accepted the oneness of Allah?
Please clarify.

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.
If a person dies following a religion other than Islam, then Paradise will be forbidden for him, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allâh, then Allâh has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode” [al-Maa’idah 5:72]

Good deeds done by a person whilst he is a kaafir will not benefit him in the Hereafter at all, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meanings):

“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

“And We shall turn to whatever deeds they (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners) did, and We shall make such deeds as scattered floating particles of dust” [al-Furqaan 25:23]

“Those who deny Our Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and the Meeting in the Hereafter (Day of Resurrection,), vain are their deeds. Are they requited with anything except what they used to do?” [al-A’raaf 7:147]

‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) a question similar to that asked here. She (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: “O Messenger of Allaah, during the Jaahiliyyah Ibn Jud’aan used to uphold the ties of kinship and feed the poor. Will that be of any avail to him?” He said, “No, that will not be of any avail to him, because he never said ‘O Lord, forgive me my sins on the Day of Judgement.’” (Narrated by Imaam Muslim – may Allaah have mercy on him) in his Saheeh, 214).

But if the kaafir never heard about Islam and Da’wah never reached him, then Allaah will test him on the Day of Resurrection (please see Question #1244). And Allaah knows best.

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abdulhakeem
30-03-05, 02:06 AM
The fate of kuffaar who did not hear the message of Islam

Question : Someone has asked me this question (she is about to become a muslimah). Her statement: 'A lot of others will never meet a Muslim in person. Will they be held responsible for their ignorance? What exactly does this mean: "After the revelation of the Quran who ever receives this message & does not abide by it is a non-believer"?
i. Who is considered to have received the message?
ii. Isn't it possible for people to have not received the message even though the Quran is in existence?'

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.
It is part of the justice of Allaah that He does not punish any people until He has first sent a warning to them and unless there is evidence against them. Allaah does not treat anybody unfairly. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [al-Israa’ 17:15].

In his tafseer (commentary) on this aayah, Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “These words, ‘…And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning)’ tell us of the justice of Allaah, may He be exalted, and that He does not punish anyone until after He has established evidence against him by sending a Messenger to him. This is like the aayat (interpretation of the meaning): ‘… Every time a group is cast therein , its keeper will ask, “Did no warner come to you?” They will say, “Yes indeed; a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said: ‘Allaah never sent down anything (of revelation), you are only in great error.’”’ [al-Mulk 67:8] and: ‘And those who disbelieved will be driven to Hell in groups, till, when they reach it, the gates thereof will be opened (suddenly like a prison at the arrival of its prisoners). And its keepers will say, “Did not the Messengers come to you from yourselves, - reciting to you the Verses of your Lord, and warning you of the Meeting of this Day of yours?” They will say: “Yes, but the Word of torment has been justified against the disbelievers!”’ [al-Zumar 39:71]…”

A person who has never heard of Islam or the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and who has never heard the message in its correct and true form, will not be punished by Allaah if he dies in a state of kufr (disbelief). If it were asked what his fate will be, the answer will be that Allaah will test him on the Day of Resurrection: if he obeys, he will enter Paradise and if he disobeys he will enter Hell. The evidence (daleel) for this is the hadeeth of al-Aswad ibn Saree’, who reported that the Prophet of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are four (who will protest) to Allaah on the Day of Resurrection: the deaf man who never heard anything, the insane man, the very old man, and the man who died during the [i]fatrah (the interval between the time of ‘Eesaa (Jesus, upon whom be peace) and the time of Muhammad SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)). The deaf man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I never heard anything.’ The insane man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but the children ran after me and threw stones at me.’ The very old man will say, ‘O Lord, Islam came but I did not understand anything.’ The man who died during the fatrah will say, ‘O Lord, no Messenger from You came to me.’ He will accept their promises of obedience, then word will be sent to them to enter the Fire. By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, if they enter it, it will be cool and safe for them.”

According to another report, he said: “Whoever enters it, it will be cool and safe for him, and whoever does not enter it will be dragged to it.” (The hadeeth was reported by Imaam Ahmad and Ibn Hibbaan, and deemed saheeh by al-Albaani, Saheeh al-Jaami’, 881).

Everyone who hears the message of Islam in a sound and correct form (and rejects it), will have evidence aginst him. Whoever dies without having heard the message, or having heard it in a distorted form, then his case is in the hands of Allaah. Allaah knows best about His creation, and He will never treat anyone unfairly. And Allaah is All-Seer of His slaves.

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abdulhakeem
30-03-05, 02:09 AM
The kaafir’s reckoning in the Hereafter

Question : The believer will face his reckoning on the Day of Resurrection, whether his deeds are good or bad. But how will the reckoning of the kaafir be, when he is not required to observe the same duties as the believer?

Answer : Praise be to Allaah. </SPAN>


This question is based on a misconception, for the same requirements are demanded of the kaafir as of the believer, but he is not obliged to do them in this world. The indication that he is subject to the same requirements is to be found in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“Except those on the Right (i.e. the pious true believers of Islamic Monotheism).

In Gardens (Paradise) they will ask one another,

About Al‑Mujrimoon (polytheists, criminals, disbelievers) (and they will say to them):

‘What has caused you to enter Hell’

They will say: ‘We were not of those who used to offer the Salaah (prayers),

Nor we used to feed Al‑Miskeen (the poor);

And we used to talk falsehood (all that which Allaah hated) with vain talkers.

And we used to belie the Day of Recompense’”

[al-Muddaththir 74:39-46]

If their suffering were not due to the fact that they did not pray or feed the poor, they would not mention these things. This indicates that they will be punished concerning (neglect of) the minor issues of Islam. This is based on the texts but it is also the matter of common sense, for if Allaah will punish His believing slave for what he failed to do with regard to religious obligations, how can He not punish His disbelieving slave? Rather I could add that the kaafir will be punished for everything that Allaah has blessed him with in this world, his food, drink, etc. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Those who believe and do righteous good deeds, there is no sin on them for what they ate (in the past), if they fear Allaah (by keeping away from His forbidden things), and believe and do righteous good deeds, and again fear Allaah and believe, and once again fear Allaah and do good deeds with Ihsaan (perfection). And Allaah loves the good‑doers”

[al-Maa'idah 5:93]

The apparent meaning of the aayah is that the believers are relieved of any blame for what they eat, and it may be understood that the kaafirs are to blame for what they eat. Similarly Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘Who has forbidden the adornment with clothes given by Allaah, which He has produced for His slaves, and At-Tayyibaat [all kinds of Halaal (lawful) things] of food?’ Say: ‘They are, in the life of this world, for those who believe, (and) exclusively for them (believers) on the Day of Resurrection (the disbelievers will not share them)’”

[al-A’raaf 7:32]

The phrase “They are, in the life of this world, for those who believe” indicates that people other than the believers do not have any right to enjoy them. I say that they do not have any shar’i right to them, but the reality of this life is that Allaah has created these things and the kaafirs are benefitting from them, and this is something that cannot be denied. This indicates that the kaafir will be brought to account even for the permissible things that he ate and for what he wore. This is based on the texts but it is also the matter of common sense, for how can it make sense that this kaafir who disobeys Allaah and does not believe in Him should have the right to enjoy that which Allaah has created and blessed His slaves with? If this is clear to you, (then you will see that) the kaafir will be brought to account on the Day of Resurrection for his deeds, but the way in which the kaafir will be brought to account will not be like the way in which the believer is brought to account, because the reckoning of the believer will be easy, and his Lord will speak to him alone, and will make him admit to his sins, then He will say to him, “I concealed your sins in the world and I forgive you for them today.” But as for the kaafir – we seek refuge with Allaah – his reckoning will mean that he will confess to his sins and be humiliated before all the people,

“and the witnesses will say, “These are the ones who lied against their Lord!” No doubt! the Curse of Allaah is on the Zaalimoon (polytheists, wrongdoers, oppressors)”

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abdulhakeem
30-03-05, 02:10 AM
How will the kaafir be brought to account in the Hereafter, when he is not required to adhere to sharee’ah?

Question : How will the kaafir be brought to account on the Day of Resurrection, when he is not required to adhere to sharee’ah?.

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.


Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

This question is based on an incorrect understanding, because the kaafir is subject to the same requirements as the believer, but he is not obliged to follow them in this world. The fact that this is required of him is indicated by the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Except those on the Right (i.e. the pious true believers of Islamic Monotheism).

In Gardens (Paradise) they will ask one another,

About Al‑Mujrimoon (polytheists, criminals, disbelievers) (and they will say to them):

‘What has caused you to enter Hell?’

They will say: ‘We were not of those who used to offer the Salaah (prayers)

Nor we used to feed Al‑Miskeen (the poor);

And we used to talk falsehood (all that which Allaah hated) with vain talkers.

And we used to belie the Day of Recompense’”

[al-Muddaththir 74:39]

If they would not be punished for not praying and not feeding the poor, etc, the verse would not have mentioned these things. This indicates that they will be punished with regard to minor issues of Islam. As this is proven in the texts, it is also indicated by rational thinking, because if Allaah will punish His believing slave for his shortcomings with regard to the obligations of his religion, how can He not then punish the kaafir?

Moreover, the kaafir will be punished for all the blessings that Allaah bestowed upon him of food, drink and other things. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Those who believe and do righteous good deeds, there is no sin on them for what they ate (in the past), if they fear Allaah (by keeping away from His forbidden things), and believe and do righteous good deeds, and again fear Allaah and believe, and once again fear Allaah and do good deeds with Ihsaan (perfection). And Allaah loves the good‑doers”

[al-Maa'idah 5:93]

The wording of this verse states that the believers will be spared any blame for what they ate, which implies that the kaafirs will be subjected to blame for what they ate. Similarly Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): ‘Who has forbidden the adornment with clothes given by Allaah, which He has produced for His slaves, and At-Tayyibaat [all kinds of Halaal (lawful) things] of food?’ Say: ‘They are, in the life of this world, for those who believe, (and) exclusively for them (believers) on the Day of Resurrection (the disbelievers will not share them)’”

[al-A’raaf 7:32]

The words “They are, in the life of this world, for those who believe” in this verse indicate that non-believers have no right to enjoy them in this world – i.e., they have no rights according to sharee’ah, but according to real life as Allaah has decreed it to be, Allaah has created these blessings and the kaafirs are benefitting from them, and this is something that no one can deny. This indicates that the kaafir will be brought to account for what he ate of permissible things and what he wore. What is implied by the text is also implied by reason, otherwise how could this kaafir who disobeys Allaah and does not believe in Him deserve to enjoy that which Allaah has created and has bestowed upon His slaves? If this is clear to you then the kaafir will also be brought to account on the Day of Resurrection for his deeds, but the reckoning of the kaafir on the Day of Resurrection will not be like the reckoning of the believer, because the believer’s reckoning will be easy; his Lord will address him in secret and will tell him of his sins until he confesses, then He will say to him, “I concealed them for you in the world and I forgive you for them this Day.” But for the kaafir – we seek refuge with Allaah – his reckoning will involve his being told of his sins and being disgraced in front of the witnesses:

“and the witnesses will say, ‘These are the ones who lied against their Lord!’ No doubt! the Curse of Allaah is on the Zaalimoon (polytheists, wrongdoers, oppressors)”

[Hood 11:18 – interpretation of the meaning]

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abdulhakeem
30-03-05, 02:14 AM
The atheist who does good deeds is worse than the one who kills his mother and takes care of dogs

Question : What is the reason for people not believing in God being punished? I read that good deeds of such people will not be accepted. So if someone does all he can do to help people and be useful to the society, he will be punished nevertheless if he did not believe in God. But what exactly is the reason of punishing a good man for his atheism?

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.
It is the matter of common sense that man has been created, and the created being must have a Creator. The Creator of man is Allaah, Who created the heavens and the earth, and created all things. Man has to acknowledge this reality. It is also the matter of common sense that the Creator of this universe is the One who deserves to be worshipped, obeyed, feared, hoped and loved. This means that the one who does not acknowledge this truth is an atheist and a denier, and is ignorant and corrupt; his intellect is less than human. Whoever does not submit truly as a slave to Allaah, Who has created the heavens and the earth, but is too proud to worship Him, or worships some created being alongside Him, is refusing to worship Allaah, or is a mushrik (one who associates others in worship with Him). Both the one who refuses to worship Allaah and the one who associates others in worship with Him are kaafirs (disbelievers), like atheists and deniers. Whoever denies the Creator or refuses to worship Him, or joins others in worship with Him, deserves the most severe punishment, because for a man to deny his Creator, or refuse to worship Him, or join others in worship with Him, is the most serious of human sins, the most abhorrent of beliefs and the worst deviation. If a person is like this, there is no value in any good deed that he does. The atheist who does deeds that are good in his own eyes, and does whatever good deeds he can for his society, is like a man who kills his father and mother and takes good care of dogs. Does it not make sense that he should be punished and that his good treatment of dogs should not count for anything? The most important rights are the rights of Allaah, which are that He should be acknowledged and worshipped. The one who neglects this most important right will not benefit from anything he does with regard to people’s rights. Therefore if the atheist does not believe in Allaah and does not worship Allaah, there cannot be any good in the actions that he does for people’s benefit. But this atheist or mushrik who treats people well is still better than the atheist or mushrik who oppresses and mistreats people, and denies them their rights. He may be rewarded for his good deeds by being granted provision of food and drink in this world, but he will have no share in the Hereafter. Look at yourself, and believe in Allaah and His Messenger, and follow the guidance of Allaah with which He sent His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), the Seal of the Prophets, so that you might avoid the punishment of Allaah. Know the difference between the believer and the atheist, the one who worships Allaah alone and the one who associates others in worship with Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“The likeness of the two parties is as the blind and the deaf and the seer and the hearer. Are they equal when compared? Will you not then take heed? [Hood 11:24]

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abdulhakeem
30-03-05, 02:16 AM
Doing righteous deeds when one is careless about prayer

Question : In the past I did not pray regularly. I would pray for a few days, then stop for a few days, then go back to praying. I used to give a lot of charity, seeking the pleasure of Allaah, and I upheld the ties of kinship, doing that only for the sake of Allaah. Will the good deeds I did be rejected because my prayers were incomplete, or might Allaah accept them if He wills?.

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.


Negligence in performing prayers is a great sin, and a sign of extreme negligence, because prayer is the most important pillar of Islam after the Shahaadatayn (twin testimony of faith). Allaah warns those who take the matter of prayer lightly and do not pray on time, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Then, there has succeeded them a posterity who have given up As‑Salaat (the prayers) [i.e. made their Salaat (prayers) to be lost, either by not offering them or by not offering them perfectly or by not offering them in their proper fixed times] and have followed lusts. So they will be thrown in Hell.

Except those who repent and believe (in the Oneness of Allaah and His Messenger Muhammad), and work righteousness. Such will enter Paradise and they will not be wronged in aught”

[Maryam 19:59, 60]

A number of scholars were of the view that the one who misses a single prayer and delays it until its time is over, with no excuse, is a kaafir. So what you have to do is to repent to Allaah from this great sin, and pray regularly on time, as well as doing a lot of naafil prayers, in the hope that Allaah will forgive you and accept your good deeds.

It says in Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (Fatwas of the Standing Committee), 6/50:

Question:

Four years ago we went on a pleasure trip. During this trip I missed a prayer – either Zuhr or ‘Asr, I can’t remember now – because I was being careless and lazy. Now I regret the sin that I committed and I ask Allaah to forgive me for every sin. What do I have to do, and is there any expiation?

The Standing Committee replied:

You have to repent to Allaah sincerely, but you do not have to make up the prayer you missed, because deliberately missing an obligatory prayer is major kufr [disbelief], as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The covenant that stands between us and them is prayer; whoever gives up prayer is a kaafir.” And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Between a man and kufr and shirk there stands his giving up prayer.” Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh. There is no expiation for that but sincere repentance.

Secondly:

The good deeds of a kaafir are of no avail before Allaah unless he becomes Muslim, then his good deeds will benefit him and their reward will be written for him, as it says clearly in al-Saheehayn, where it is narrated that Hakeem ibn Hizaam (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:

I said, “O Messenger of Allaah, there are some things that I used to do as acts of worship during the Jaahiliyyah, such as giving charity, freeing slaves and upholding the ties of kinship. Will I get any reward for that?” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You entered Islam with the good that you had done before.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1436; Muslim, 123.

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Ibn Battaal and other scholars were of the view that the apparent meaning of this hadeeth indicates that if a kaafir becomes Muslim and dies in Islam, he will be rewarded for the good deeds that he did when he was still a kaafir. They quoted as evidence the hadeeth of Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When a kaafir enters Islam and becomes a good Muslim, Allaah records for him all the good deeds that he had done previously, and erases thereby between ten and seven hundred (bad deeds) the like thereof, and each bad deed will only count as one, unless Allaah forgives him.” It was mentioned by al-Daaraqutni in Ghareeb Hadeeth Maalik, and narrated from him through nine isnaads, in all of which it states that if a kaafir becomes a good Muslim, every good deed that he did when he was still a mushrik will be recorded for him.

Ibn Battaal (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, after mentioning the hadeeth: Allaah may bestow His bounty upon His slaves as much as He wills, and no one can question Him for that. This is like what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Hakeem ibn Hizaam (may Allaah be pleased with him): “You entered Islam with the good that you had done before.” And Allaah knows best.

With regard to the words of the fuqaha’: “The worship of a kaafir is not valid, and if he enters Islam it will not count,” what they meant is that it is not subject to shar’i rulings in this world, and there is no expectation (at the time of doing it) of reward in the Hereafter, but if someone suggests that if he becomes Muslim he will not be rewarded for his good deeds in the Hereafter, then that view should be refuted by referring to this saheeh Sunnah.

And Allaah knows best.

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abdulhakeem
30-03-05, 02:22 AM
Allaah does not force people into kufr

Question : We read in many aayahs of the Qur’aan that Allaah says that He places a veil over the hearts of the kaafirs and a seal over their eyes, and He has made them deaf and blind to the truth. We also know that Allaah does not force anyone into kufr, so how can we understand these aayahs?

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.


Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The answer is that Allaah has explained in many verses of His Book those impediments which have been placed on their hearts, ears and eyes, such as seals and veils, have been placed on them as a suitable recompense for their previous kufr and for their disbelieving in the Messengers by choice. So Allaah has turned their hearts away by placing upon them a seal and veils etc, as a punishment for their kufr. Among the aayahs that indicate that is the verse (interpretation of the meaning):
“Allaah has set a seal upon their hearts because of their disbelief”

[al-Nisaa’ 4:155]

This a clear Qur’aanic text which states that their previous kufr is the reason for the seal upon their hearts. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“So when they turned away (from the path of Allaah), Allaah turned their hearts away (from the Right Path)”

[al-Saff 61:5]

This is also a clear indication that the reason why Allaah has turned their hearts away is their initial turning away. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“That is because they believed, and then disbelieved; therefore their hearts are sealed, so they understand not”

[al-Munaafiqoon :3]

“In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allaah has increased their disease”

[al-Baqarah 2:10]

“And We shall turn their hearts and their eyes away (from guidance), as they refused to believe therein for the first time, and We shall leave them in their trespass to wander blindly”

[al-An’aam 6:110]

“Nay! But on their hearts is the Raan (covering of sins and evil deeds) which they used to earn”

[al-Mutaffifeen 83:14]

and there are other aayahs which speak of the seal on their hearts and say that their being prevented from understanding that which may benefit them is a punishment for their previous kufr. What we have mentioned here is a refutation of the specious arguments of the Jabariyyah who continually refer to these aayahs and others from the Holy Qur’aan.

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com (http://www.islam-qa.com/))

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carol_au
01-04-05, 10:37 AM
There are some things here we would both agree on.. if you have read my contribution to the discussion on Surah 2:62 you will know which I mean, but a question for you ...

If God has hardened the hearts of those who don't believe because they have turned away.. when in your thinking did this turning away take place?

When for example does the tafeer say I chose to turn away from God, so that He hardened my heart towards Himself and veiled my eyes from the "true path"? When I was a baby or when I made the choice to become a Christian aged 11, (from a non Christian, non believing parentage) or before I was born?

What part did Satan have in turning my eyes away?

Sincere questions

In peace

Moayidd
02-04-05, 02:52 AM
Allaah does not force people into kufr

Question : We read in many aayahs of the Qur’aan that Allaah says that He places a veil over the hearts of the kaafirs and a seal over their eyes, and He has made them deaf and blind to the truth. We also know that Allaah does not force anyone into kufr, so how can we understand these aayahs?

Answer : Praise be to Allaah.


Shaykh al-Shanqeeti (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The answer is that Allaah has explained in many verses of His Book those impediments which have been placed on their hearts, ears and eyes, such as seals and veils, have been placed on them as a suitable recompense for their previous kufr and for their disbelieving in the Messengers by choice. So Allaah has turned their hearts away by placing upon them a seal and veils etc, as a punishment for their kufr. Among the aayahs that indicate that is the verse (interpretation of the meaning):
“Allaah has set a seal upon their hearts because of their disbelief”

[al-Nisaa’ 4:155]

This a clear Qur’aanic text which states that their previous kufr is the reason for the seal upon their hearts. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“So when they turned away (from the path of Allaah), Allaah turned their hearts away (from the Right Path)”

[al-Saff 61:5]

This is also a clear indication that the reason why Allaah has turned their hearts away is their initial turning away. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“That is because they believed, and then disbelieved; therefore their hearts are sealed, so they understand not”

[al-Munaafiqoon :3]

“In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allaah has increased their disease”

[al-Baqarah 2:10]

“And We shall turn their hearts and their eyes away (from guidance), as they refused to believe therein for the first time, and We shall leave them in their trespass to wander blindly”

[al-An’aam 6:110]

“Nay! But on their hearts is the Raan (covering of sins and evil deeds) which they used to earn”

[al-Mutaffifeen 83:14]

and there are other aayahs which speak of the seal on their hearts and say that their being prevented from understanding that which may benefit them is a punishment for their previous kufr. What we have mentioned here is a refutation of the specious arguments of the Jabariyyah who continually refer to these aayahs and others from the Holy Qur’aan.

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com (http://www.islam-qa.com/))

http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=22244&dgn=4

Very good post Akhi,

Just one addition, Kufr is itself a veil from the Truth. Kufr is many levels, there is Kufr in an Ayah, Kufr from a certain truth and there is of course the highest level which is Kufr in Allah himself (astaghfaraullah Al'azeem).

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Moayidd
02-04-05, 02:58 AM
There are some things here we would both agree on.. if you have read my contribution to the discussion on Surah 2:62 you will know which I mean, but a question for you ...

If God has hardened the hearts of those who don't believe because they have turned away.. when in your thinking did this turning away take place?

When for example does the tafeer say I chose to turn away from God, so that He hardened my heart towards Himself and veiled my eyes from the "true path"? When I was a baby or when I made the choice to become a Christian aged 11, (from a non Christian, non believing parentage) or before I was born?

What part did Satan have in turning my eyes away?

Sincere questions

In peaceHello Carol,

This is not a mainstream topic. This needs further study and Ijtihad. I can answer this question in Comparative religion but not here. Infact, I already have in more than one thread.



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carol_au
02-04-05, 04:37 AM
Moayidd,

Please pick up this thought anywhere you would like to discuss it.. or point me to somewhere where you already have.. thanks

carol_au
02-04-05, 04:55 AM
Peace again,

I will bring my last question back into the focus of this discussion then.

Narrated Humran:

(the slave of 'Uthman) I saw 'Uthman bin 'Affan asking for a tumbler of water (and when it was brought) he poured water over his hands and washed them thrice and then put his right hand in the water container and rinsed his mouth, washed his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out. then he washed his face and forearrlns up to the elbows thrice, passed his wet hands over his head and washed his feet up to the ankles thrice. Then he said, "Allah's Apostle said 'If anyone Performs ablution like that of mine and offers a two-rak'at prayer during which he does not think of anything else (not related to the present prayer) then his past sins will be forgiven.' " After performing the ablution 'Uthman said, "I am going to tell you a Hadith which I would not have told you, had I not been compelled by a certain Holy Verse (the sub narrator 'Urwa said: This verse is: "Verily, those who conceal the clear signs and the guidance which we have sent down...)" (2:159). I heard the Prophet saying, 'If a man performs ablution perfectly and then offers the compulsory congregational prayer, Allah will forgive his sins committed between that (prayer) and the (next) prayer till he offers it.

Abdullah Ibn Abbas had once said:

"You who commit a sin, do not feel secure about the results, for what goes along with the sin is more serious than the sin itself.Your lack of shame before the angels, who witness you when you commit the sin, is more serious than the sin itself.Your laughter when you sin, as you forget the punishment of Allah is more serious than the sin itself. Your delight if you get a chance to sin, is more serious than the sin itself. Even your disappointment, if you miss a chance to sin is more

Somewhere in my reading I have read a hadith that suggests that even if you convert, if you sin before you die so that you are in a state of uncleanness at death, you will not go to paradise. It is after all in the will of Allah in the end?

Is this correct and how do you explain the state of being unclean at the time of death meaning all those years of cleanliness will be meaningless? If I have misunderstood the meanings of these hadiths, please let me know.

Many thanks

Moayidd
02-04-05, 05:30 AM
Peace again,

I will bring my last question back into the focus of this discussion then.

Narrated Humran:

(the slave of 'Uthman) I saw 'Uthman bin 'Affan asking for a tumbler of water (and when it was brought) he poured water over his hands and washed them thrice and then put his right hand in the water container and rinsed his mouth, washed his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out. then he washed his face and forearrlns up to the elbows thrice, passed his wet hands over his head and washed his feet up to the ankles thrice. Then he said, "Allah's Apostle said 'If anyone Performs ablution like that of mine and offers a two-rak'at prayer during which he does not think of anything else (not related to the present prayer) then his past sins will be forgiven.' " After performing the ablution 'Uthman said, "I am going to tell you a Hadith which I would not have told you, had I not been compelled by a certain Holy Verse (the sub narrator 'Urwa said: This verse is: "Verily, those who conceal the clear signs and the guidance which we have sent down...)" (2:159). I heard the Prophet saying, 'If a man performs ablution perfectly and then offers the compulsory congregational prayer, Allah will forgive his sins committed between that (prayer) and the (next) prayer till he offers it.

Abdullah Ibn Abbas had once said:

"You who commit a sin, do not feel secure about the results, for what goes along with the sin is more serious than the sin itself.Your lack of shame before the angels, who witness you when you commit the sin, is more serious than the sin itself.Your laughter when you sin, as you forget the punishment of Allah is more serious than the sin itself. Your delight if you get a chance to sin, is more serious than the sin itself. Even your disappointment, if you miss a chance to sin is more

Somewhere in my reading I have read a hadith that suggests that even if you convert, if you sin before you die so that you are in a state of uncleanness at death, you will not go to paradise. It is after all in the will of Allah in the end?

Is this correct and how do you explain the state of being unclean at the time of death meaning all those years of cleanliness will be meaningless? If I have misunderstood the meanings of these hadiths, please let me know.

Many thanks


I really would have to read the Hadith in Arabic to give you an analysis however, I will comment on the part below although it too si partially beyond the 'learn Islam" forum and I handled it too in a thread in comparative Religion.
"for what goes along with the sin is more serious than the sin itself".

In Islam, Al A'mal Bil Niyat, Deeds are as good/bad as the intentions behind them. We are not judged for the actual deed but rather by the intentions we had when doing the deed. This is what the above is saying.
Now, on a more deeper note and the one that belongs in comparative religion, our deeds have been predetermined from Al Azal (The begining of time so to speak). We have no say now over what deeds we will do now. Reward/punhsiment will be determined by how we felt/thought while we do those deeds. This goes to the very essence of Shirk. Basically, if you saw or imagined that it was you doing not God doing, that is shirk and you will be punished for the deed (if the deed was bad). If you understood while doing the deed that it is Allah that does everything, you will get the reward that was assigned to that deed at Al azal.
It's a large topic and you are probably better off reading my thread about it on
http://www.ummah.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=51299

The topic a a very tricky and debated one and has been debated by scholars for centuries. Hopefully, when you read it you will see just HOW consistent and very well explained Islam is when it comes to even the trickiest of subjects.
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Bubble-Buster
02-04-05, 07:16 AM
Peace again,

I will bring my last question back into the focus of this discussion then.

Narrated Humran:

(the slave of 'Uthman) I saw 'Uthman bin 'Affan asking for a tumbler of water (and when it was brought) he poured water over his hands and washed them thrice and then put his right hand in the water container and rinsed his mouth, washed his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out. then he washed his face and forearrlns up to the elbows thrice, passed his wet hands over his head and washed his feet up to the ankles thrice. Then he said, "Allah's Apostle said 'If anyone Performs ablution like that of mine and offers a two-rak'at prayer during which he does not think of anything else (not related to the present prayer) then his past sins will be forgiven.' " After performing the ablution 'Uthman said, "I am going to tell you a Hadith which I would not have told you, had I not been compelled by a certain Holy Verse (the sub narrator 'Urwa said: This verse is: "Verily, those who conceal the clear signs and the guidance which we have sent down...)" (2:159). I heard the Prophet saying, 'If a man performs ablution perfectly and then offers the compulsory congregational prayer, Allah will forgive his sins committed between that (prayer) and the (next) prayer till he offers it.

Abdullah Ibn Abbas had once said:

"You who commit a sin, do not feel secure about the results, for what goes along with the sin is more serious than the sin itself.Your lack of shame before the angels, who witness you when you commit the sin, is more serious than the sin itself.Your laughter when you sin, as you forget the punishment of Allah is more serious than the sin itself. Your delight if you get a chance to sin, is more serious than the sin itself. Even your disappointment, if you miss a chance to sin is more

Somewhere in my reading I have read a hadith that suggests that even if you convert, if you sin before you die so that you are in a state of uncleanness at death, you will not go to paradise. It is after all in the will of Allah in the end?

Is this correct and how do you explain the state of being unclean at the time of death meaning all those years of cleanliness will be meaningless? If I have misunderstood the meanings of these hadiths, please let me know.

Many thanks

Let me understand your trick here. First you have quoted two off target Ahadith that has nothing to do with your qestions. Then after that, you expect Muslims to comment and answer your question in the absence of any facts presented to us? I am 99.999% sure that there is no such Hadith in the Hadith books. Because your erroneous assertions and your phraseology does not make any sense at all, especially the undelined parts.

Produce the Hadith in question and we will address that, insha Allah. In the meantime read the following:

Prayers for Forgiveness that Save from the Hellfire! (http://www.islam-is-the-only-solution.com/prayers.htm)<O:p</O:p

carol_au
02-04-05, 08:04 AM
hi again Bubble burster,

Please don't call my posts a trick. I can't deny I'm a Christian, but I can deny the fact that one of the reasons I am here is to try and understand YOUR faith. What I have read I post and then ask you to explain for me, based on my understanding.

you say there is a veil over me as a kafir, yet when I ask you plain questions you accuse me of trickery.

If you look at my forum you will see that I am as much interested in learning about your faith as I am in telling you about mine.

Anyway, let me try and locate these hadiths again and then you can show me their meaning.

In the meantime, you can't doubt that according to Allah, in the end, it's the will of Allah who will go to Paradise and who won't? or is that another misunderstaning on my part? I know, that in all my discussions, my assertion as a Christian that I KNOW my sins are forgiven and that I am going to go to heaven to be with HIM who is the focus of my worship is always rebuked by Muslims, with a "you can't be certain, only Allah knows this".

I guess I'm asking here about free will verses God's will in the whole plan of salvation from a Muslim perspective.

I'll go find those hadiths and return later

Salam

carol_au
02-04-05, 08:41 AM
Hi again,

The first hadith I quoted is Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 161

The second hadith is there (somewhere :-) ). I haven't got time to look for it now, but here is another Muslim quoting it .. directly from a search on the inet, so I have no idea the quality of the discussion around the hadith

http://usrahrpi.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_usrahrpi_archive.html

and now the third hadith is there.. I promise it is. I need to find it and when I do I'll pm it to you if it's not posted here tonight. I'm needing to go cook dinner for my family, or else I 'd find it before posting this post.

Another Hadith I just re read is from 5:266 which I assume is Bukhari. When I last posted that hadith a few years ago on another forum that was the reference given.

Muhammed said "By Allah, though I am The Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me."

I'll be back.. family is calling .. help me out if these references can help our discussion

Thanks

Bubble-Buster
02-04-05, 04:02 PM
hi again Bubble burster,

Please don't call my posts a trick. I can't deny I'm a Christian, but I can deny the fact that one of the reasons I am here is to try and understand YOUR faith. What I have read I post and then ask you to explain for me, based on my understanding.

you say there is a veil over me as a kafir, yet when I ask you plain questions you accuse me of trickery.

If you look at my forum you will see that I am as much interested in learning about your faith as I am in telling you about mine.

Anyway, let me try and locate these hadiths again and then you can show me their meaning.

In the meantime, you can't doubt that according to Allah, in the end, it's the will of Allah who will go to Paradise and who won't? or is that another misunderstaning on my part? I know, that in all my discussions, my assertion as a Christian that I KNOW my sins are forgiven and that I am going to go to heaven to be with HIM who is the focus of my worship is always rebuked by Muslims, with a "you can't be certain, only Allah knows this".

I guess I'm asking here about free will verses God's will in the whole plan of salvation from a Muslim perspective.

I'll go find those hadiths and return later

Salam

This kind of rhetoric and these questions are on the Internet since day one. Personally I don't believe anyone can learn from Internet while he or she is clueless. I wonder, if this is true, than why people don't learn and practice law and medicine etc.

You have been doing the copy and paste from other websites and forums without even reading the material in question. Then you expect Muslims to answrs you questions that does not even support your assertions with the text you have pasted.

Regarding your fallacious assertions and generalization of Muslims for what some may have said. I can only say that you are steroe-typing it. I don't concern what yo believe and I am not here to change it, it is you who Muslim Muslims to modify their belief.

Bubble-Buster
02-04-05, 04:07 PM
Hi again,

The first hadith I quoted is Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 161

The second hadith is there (somewhere :-) ). I haven't got time to look for it now, but here is another Muslim quoting it .. directly from a search on the inet, so I have no idea the quality of the discussion around the hadith

http://usrahrpi.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_usrahrpi_archive.html

and now the third hadith is there.. I promise it is. I need to find it and when I do I'll pm it to you if it's not posted here tonight. I'm needing to go cook dinner for my family, or else I 'd find it before posting this post.

Another Hadith I just re read is from 5:266 which I assume is Bukhari. When I last posted that hadith a few years ago on another forum that was the reference given.

Muhammed said "By Allah, though I am The Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me."

I'll be back.. family is calling .. help me out if these references can help our discussion

Thanks

This is no right way of asking questions and allegedly learning about Islam. Why don't you post complete Hadith with complete references? Why should some one waste their time for no reason to search (1) Whether it is really a Hadith (2) Where to find it (3) Then write the response that would obviously not bebefit you for what you are fishing for, and you will deny the teachings of Islam, because they are contrary to your fancy.

carol_au
02-04-05, 10:49 PM
Bubble Buster,

I have only posted the hadiths I myself wrote to another forum approx 2 years ago.

I agree, I need to write the entire hadith. I have learned that now, back in those days I had a lot of assumptions, my views are now more modified.

I raised these hadiths as examples of concerns about the state of a Muslim at the time of their death and whether they will still go to Jannah. I have an entire book of hadiths here and could carry on a much more enlightened discussion with you now than a view years ago and SHOULD probably have used those hadiths rather than the ones I did. They are there, they just need locating. Just because I don't provide a reference does not mean they are there.

Please Bubble Buster, let's keep our discussions on a professional level. I'm here to learn about Islam and maybe show people some things about Christianity they didn't know. It is possible to do it on the internet if discussions are kept from being personal in their nature.

I'm a nurse and nursing today is taught exclusively in university with only limited patient contact. When I trained, we did our training completely at the bedside of our patients and couldn't believe that the day would come when we would learn our profession in an institutional environment. It has come. Learning is possible no matter how it is gained, if the trainer has the right tools and right attitudes for the job.

Keep at it.. when you post answers you do a good job. Thanks

Bubble-Buster
02-04-05, 11:00 PM
Bubble Buster,

I have only posted the hadiths I myself wrote to another forum approx 2 years ago.

I agree, I need to write the entire hadith. I have learned that now, back in those days I had a lot of assumptions, my views are now more modified.

I am glad that you think this way, which may help to explore more.


I raised these hadiths as examples of concerns about the state of a Muslim at the time of their death and whether they will still go to Jannah. I have an entire book of hadiths here and could carry on a much more enlightened discussion with you now than a view years ago and SHOULD probably have used those hadiths rather than the ones I did. They are there, they just need locating. Just because I don't provide a reference does not mean they are there.

As I have said before that, I am not copy and paste kind of Muslim without no knowledge or little knowledge (more like a half baked). Idon't quote anything unless, I have personally verified the authenticity. I don't even use Muslim websites blindly. MSA or some other websites have lot of errors that majority of people don't know.

Please Bubble Buster, let's keep our discussions on a professional level. I'm here to learn about Islam and maybe show people some things about Christianity they didn't know. It is possible to do it on the internet if discussions are kept from being personal in their nature.

Fair enough!

I'm a nurse and nursing today is taught exclusively in university with only limited patient contact. When I trained, we did our training completely at the bedside of our patients and couldn't believe that the day would come when we would learn our profession in an institutional environment. It has come. Learning is possible no matter how it is gained, if the trainer has the right tools and right attitudes for the job.

I see.

Keep at it.. when you post answers you do a good job. Thanks

Thanks, I do my utmost best to offer answers derived from authentic sources.

PiElle
03-04-05, 12:38 AM
as well as lots of kufr i hear are around, at the same time, i'd like to think that there're also always be natural muslims who's hearts have been opened and their veils removed everyday... learning and teaching (even on the internet) needs alot of patience from either side... without denying/doubting anyone who's seeking the right path... thank you all for the great effort and any proper guidance from brothers and sisters in this forum will be very much appreciated....

sorry if i can't pull any verse or hadith cos of my limited knowledge of islam and religions so i'll just have to speak from my heart.... :-)