arabic-past, present and future

[Ghazali]

Assalamualaykum-wa-rahmatullah-he-wa-barakatu
ok,

like with any language you have to learn the grammar of the language to be able to learn it, so my advice to all those sincere is to go and find out what the following are (because despite the fact we can speak, read and write english, some of us take for granted the grammar of english, i did):
noun
verb
adverb
adjective
pronouns
prepositions

i am sure i have forgotten something but you should be able to find it.
i am presuming all can read arabic.
ok we are going to learn the format of putting verbs into the past tense, insh-allah we will learn after present, future tenses. how to make an order e.g. silence!(shut up) or leave! (get out) also how to make possesions mine, his, yours (male and female) etc

I DO NOT PROFESS TO KNOW IT ALL I AM ALSO LEARNING AS WELL. I WILL MAKE MISTAKES SO YOU QUESTION ME AND INSH-ALLAH I WILL QUESTION MY TEACHER.
oh by the way this is fussa arabic or what is termed as clasical arabic none of that post modern standard diluted stuff.

another word of advice is that you on your own will have to learn vocabulary and while i am not going top sit behind the computer and tell you all to spend £40 on
Al-Mawrid (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1850341176/qid=1056556257/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_0_4/202-9157415-7927850) you may want to get the version which is the same but cheaper pocket size (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/995390202X/qid=1056556281/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_0_2/202-9157415-7927850)

these dictionaries i think are post modern but because even the postmodernists use the root word of the language it is ok to get vocabulary out of. this is a good book as well that you may want to get (http://www.faqirpublications.com/books.htm#fundamentals)

ok lesson time, REMEMBER THIS IS THE PAST TENSE OR Al-Maadi:

single(1 person):

ana(my, mine)
anta(your (masculine)
anti(your femanine)
huwa(his)
heeya(hers)

double(2 persons):
nahnu(we)
antuma(those masculine)
antuma(those feminine)
huumaa(theirs masculine)
huumaa(theirs feminine)

a group of 2 or more:
nahnu(we)
antum(them all masculine)
antuna(them all feminine)
huum(all those masculine)
huuna(all those feminine)

WHAT AM I GETTING MYSELF INTO!!!
THIS GOING TO BE HARD.

ok i am positive someone on the board is going to pull me over about some mistake i have made, NO argument i probably have.but have you tried teaching a language on a forum board!???!:banghead:

ok with those above in mind now you should know that using them has an individual ending, so for instance:

to enter is da-kha-la

oh another point here is a root word is made up of 3 letters, there are other with 4 and 5 and more but we will just concentrate on the 3 letter ones.

so if i was to say "i entered" it would be the da-kha-la + 'ending below, in this example da-khal-tu
oh another point when adding the ending the last 3 letters must be joined so da-kha-la becomes da-khal + 'ending.

single(1 person):

ana(my, mine) +tu
anta(your (masculine) +ta
anti(your femanine) +tee
huwa(his) add nothing leave it as it is
heeya(hers) +ut

double(2 persons):

nahnu(we) +na
antuma(those masculine) +tuma
antuma(those feminine) +tuma
huumaa(theirs masculine) +aaa
huumaa(theirs feminine) +aa-taa

a group of 2 or more:

nahnu(we) +na
antum(them all masculine) +tum
antuna(them all feminine) +tuuna
huum(all those masculine) +ooo
huuna(all those feminine +na

learn that.



if i don't post again on this topic accept my apologies but this is hard work. you cannot do justice to the arabic language by explaining the sounds and the countless other bits and bobs on a screen. I FEAR I MAY HAVE COMMITTED A SIN BY DEFINING AND PUTTING LETTERS OF THE QURAN INTO ENGLISH ALPHABET TO GET THE SOUND. :(

yah ALLAH(SWT) forgive me if i have done wrong.

[Ammarah]

Originally posted by Ghazali

oh by the way this is fussa arabic or what is termed as clasical arabic none of that post modern standard diluted stuff.

subhanAllah akhi, my sentiments exactly!

I'm reading through your lesson, and finding it really helpful. Jazakamullah hu khair for your marvelous efforts.

Was salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

Sis Ruqayyah Ammarah

[AbuMubarak]

i will say this about learning grammar first


(where is that bronx cheer rasberry?) blehhhh

i had previously been learning arabic the way almost every masjid teaches, using grammar first

that makes the language hard and difficult to understand

when you learned english, you learned to listen to the language before you spoke your first words

then you said one word sentences, momma juice go come, etc

then you made funny sounds that sounded like half sentences, but you learned the language by sounds, then formed half sentences, then full sentences, then people around you corrected you, and then when you were about 10 years old, you learned grammar

so to me, lets learn vocabulary, words from quran and hadiths preferably, not colloquial arabic, then put words together, make some nonsensical sentences, but at least you will know what you are saying, and then we can learn grammar

i would much rather here someone say, ana jaa'a ila masjidun, with them knowing the words, and not grammar, then them saying ana 'aji'tu minal masjidin and not knowing what they are saying

and Allah knows best

but remember this, there are two year old arab children who know arabic, and dont know spelling or grammar, but if you say something to them, they will understand

[Ghazali]

jazakhllah kher dear sister and brother,

i am in total agreement with you brother AbuMubarak, unfortunately at this age just listening and picking up the lexitology of the arabic language for me is hard and while just learning the grammer at times just seems like "where am i going with this?" i do understand that this was the ways non arab scholars learnt the language but alhumdulillah may ALLAH(SWT) insh-allah open up our hearts and ears to learn this blessed language any which way possible, i do not care, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT first then speaking, reading, writing after.

[Ammarah]

aameen.

SubhanAllah you can't beat this way me thinks. I was telling everyone I met today how I can understand words from al fatiha.

I was telling them about the root word a3bud (worship) and how you add the prefix alif, noon, ta etc to make a3budu (i worship), na3budu (we worship), ta3budu (you worship). They were most impressed, mashaa Allah :D

And me and the kids have been saying how we have been eating food and sitting in the house, hehehehe. We were also adding the names of foods we know instead of ta'aam.

SubhanAllah we had great fun.

[AbuMubarak]

ok, smarty

whats the word for door?

my door
your door
their door
our door

and open is fataha

and the command for open if iftah

so now tell your kids to open the door, open my door, open your door, open a door

and close is, ughlaq

from the word, ghalaqa, to close

so tell the kids to open the door, close the door, open my door, close your door

and when you really get smooth, tell them to open their book, close their book, open your book, close your book, open my book, close my book

(this should keep her busy)

[Ammarah]

:eek:

Originally posted by AbuMubarak
ok, smarty

whats the word for door?


Çá ÈÇä
al bab


my door
your door
their door
our door

ÈÇÈí
babi [my door]

ÈÇÈß
babak [your door]

ÈÇÈåã
babham [your door]

ÈÇÈäÇ
babna [our door]


and open is fataha

and the command for open if iftah

so now tell your kids to open the door, open my door, open your door, open a door


ÊÝÊÍ Çá ÈÇÈ
tifahta al bab [you open the door]


íÝÊÍ ÓÝíÇÇä ÇáÈÇÈ
ifahta sufyaan al bab [Sufyaan open the door]


íÝÊÍ ÓÝíÇÇä ÈÇÈí
ifatha Sufyaan babi [Sufyaan open my door]


íÝÊÍ ÓíÝ Çááå ÈÇÈß
ifatha Sayfullah babak [sayfullah open your door]


ÇÝÊÍ ÈÇÈÇ
ifatha baba [open a door]


hmmmmm check those before I continue?

[AbuMubarak]

baabuki

baabuhu

baabuka

baabuna

(that was wrong, i just removed it, i will correct it tomorrow)

yaaa muhammad iftah al-baab

iftah baabi

iftah kitaabi

[Ammarah]

Until tommorow if Allah wills, (today for me)..

íÇ ÓÝíÇÇä íÝÊÍ ÇáÈÇÈ

[Ammarah]

You know I'm gonna be telling my kids to open the doors and their books all day today, right? hehe

had better try close or else we will be feeling the draft :p


íÇ ÓÝíÇÇä ÇõÛáÞ ÇáÈÇÈ

[Ayah]

As'salaamu alaykum,

I just wanted to make some corrections :D (see below). I also wanted to comment on something. In arabic, when you want to write a command like, "Sufyaan, open the door," adding the word "yaa" = "Oh" is out of politeness. :) Also, when you're using the command form of a verb, this is a clue on how to do it (but of course there are some exceptions). Say you want to tell someone to drink something. The verb "to drink" in arabic is "sharaba" (sheen, raa, baa). So to command someone, you add the letter alif to the beginning and there's sukoon on the first letter of the verb. So to tell someone (male) to drink, you'd say, "ish'rab" (Because there's sukoon on the sheen, you don't say, "isharab"). I hope that helps.

ÊÝÊÍ Çá ÈÇÈ
tifahta al bab [you open the door]

Correction: Iftah al-bab


íÝÊÍ ÓÝíÇÇä ÇáÈÇÈ
ifahta sufyaan al bab [Sufyaan open the door]

Correction: Yaa sufyaan, iftah al-bab.


íÝÊÍ ÓÝíÇÇä ÈÇÈí
ifatha Sufyaan babi [Sufyaan open my door]

Correction: Yaa sufyaan, iftah babi.

íÝÊÍ ÓíÝ Çááå ÈÇÈß
ifatha Sayfullah babak [sayfullah open your door]

Correction: Yaa sayfullah, iftah babuka.

[peace2u]

Salaam everyone

I have a question............

How does one know when to put a kesra or fatha on the alif when making the command????????

Is it ishrab or ashrab?ÃÔÑÈ / ÅÔÑÈ

is it amshi or imshi???ÃãÔí / ÅãÔí

[Ruqayyah]

Originally posted by Ayah
As'salaamu alaykum,

I just wanted to make some corrections :D (see below). I also wanted to comment on something. In arabic, when you want to write a command like, "Sufyaan, open the door," adding the word "yaa" = "Oh" is out of politeness. :) Also, when you're using the command form of a verb, this is a clue on how to do it (but of course there are some exceptions). Say you want to tell someone to drink something. The verb "to drink" in arabic is "sharaba" (sheen, raa, baa). So to command someone, you add the letter alif to the beginning and there's sukoon on the first letter of the verb. So to tell someone (male) to drink, you'd say, "ish'rab" (Because there's sukoon on the sheen, you don't say, "isharab"). I hope that helps.

ÊÝÊÍ Çá ÈÇÈ
tifahta al bab [you open the door]

Correction: Iftah al-bab


íÝÊÍ ÓÝíÇÇä ÇáÈÇÈ
ifahta sufyaan al bab [Sufyaan open the door]

Correction: Yaa sufyaan, iftah al-bab.


íÝÊÍ ÓÝíÇÇä ÈÇÈí
ifatha Sufyaan babi [Sufyaan open my door]

Correction: Yaa sufyaan, iftah babi.

íÝÊÍ ÓíÝ Çááå ÈÇÈß
ifatha Sayfullah babak [sayfullah open your door]

Correction: Yaa sayfullah, iftah babuka.

jazakallahu khayr.

subhanaAllah, this is what i thought it might have been when abu partially corrected me.
Makes sense, alhamdulillah..

[Ruqayyah]

Okay, i'll try again, inshaa Allah..


baabi [my door]

baabuka [your door]

baabuhu [their door]

baabuna [our door]

ÈÇÈí

ÈÇÈß

ÈÇÈå

ÈÇÈäÇ

do we just know it is baabuka and not baabaka etc
by memory?

[Ruqayyah]

íÇ ÓÝíÇÇä íÝÊÍ ÈÇÈí

Ya Sufyaan baabi [O sufyaan open my door]


íÇ ÓÝíÇÇä íÝÊÍ ÈÇÈß

Ya Sufyaan baabuka [O Sufyaan open your door]


íÇ äÇíáÇå íÝÊÍ ÈÇÈå

Ya Naailah baabuha [O Naailah open their door]


íÇ äÇíáÇå íÝÊÍ ÈÇÈäÇ

Ya Naailah baabuna [O Naailah open our door]

[Ruqayyah]

ÇõÛáÞ ÈÇÈí
ughlaq baabi [close my door]


ÇõÛáÞ ÈÇÈß
ughlaq baabuka [close your door]


ÇõÛáÞ ÈÇÈå
ughlaq baabuhu [close their door]


ÇúÛáÞ ÈÇÈäÇ
ughlaq baabuna [close our door]

[Ruqayyah]

íÝÊÍ ßÊÇÈí

iftaha kitaabi [open my book]


íÝÊÍ ßÊÇÈß

iftaha kitaabuka [open your book]


ÇõÛáÞ ßÊÇÈå

ughlaq kitaabuhu [close their book]


ÇõÛáÞ ßÊÇÈäÇ

ughlaq kitaabuna [close our book]


íÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊí

iftah nafdhati [open my window]


íÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊß

iftah nafdhataka [open your window]


ÇõÛáÞ äÇÝÐÊå

ughlaq nafdhataha [close their window]


ÇõÛáÞ äÇÝÐÊäÇ

ughlaq nafdhatana [close our window]

[Ruqayyah]

two questions: Is it pronounced iftah (like eeftah) or yiftah?

and how do you pronounce my window?

nafdhati

nafdhuti?

:scratch:

[Bilal]

In Arabic you have three cases of verb:

1) Past as:

ÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊí

Fatah Nafidati

(he opened my window)


2) Present:

íÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊí

Yaftah nafidati

He is opening (opens) my window




3) ‘’Order’’ verb

ÇÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊí


Eftah Nafedati

Open my window!


Originally posted by Ruqayyah
two questions: Is it pronounced iftah (like eeftah) or yiftah?

and how do you pronounce my window?

nafdhati

nafdhuti?

:scratch:

[Bilal]

- My window
äÇÝÐÊí
Nafidati

- His window
äÇÝÐÊå
Nafidatuhu

- Her window
äÇÝÐÊåÇ
Nafidatuha

- Their wiondow (male)
äÇÝÐÊåã
Nafidatuhum

- Their window (female)
Nafidatuhun-na
äÇÝÐÊåä

- Our window
äÇÝÐÊäÇ
Nafidatuna

[Ruqayyah]

as salaamu alaykum akhi..

JazakAllahu khayr!!

[Ruqayyah]

Order
ÇÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊí
iftah nafidhati [open my window]

íÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊß
iftah nafidhatuka [open your window]

íÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊåõ
iftah nafidhatuhu [open his window]

íÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊå
iftah nafidhatuha [open her window]

Past
ÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊí
fatah nafidhati [he opened my window]

ÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊåõ
fatah nafidhatuhu [he opened his window]

ÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊåó
fatah nafidhatuha [he opened her window]


Present
íÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊí
Yaftah nafidati [he is opening (opens) my window

ÊÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊí
taftah nafidhatati [she is opening my window]

ÊÝÊÍ äÇÝÐÊß
taftah nafidatuka [she is opening your window]

[Ruqayyah]

Order
ÇõÛáÞ ßÊÇÈí
ughlaq kitaabi [close my book]

ÇõÛáÞ ßÊÇÈß
ughlaq kitabuka [close your book]

ÇõÛáÞ ßÊÇÈåõ
ughlaq kitabuhu [close his book]

ÇõÛáÞ ßÊÇÈåó
ughlaq kitabuha [close her book]

ÇõÛáÞ ßÊÇÈäÇ
ughlaq kitabuna [close our book]



Past
ÃÛáÞ ßÊÇÈí
aghlaq kitabi [[he closed my book]

ÂÛáÞ ßÊÈåõ
aghlaq kitabuhu [he closed his book]

ÂÛáÞ ßÊÇÈåó
aghlaq kitabuha [he closed her book]

ÂÛáÞÊ ßÊÇÈåã
aghalaqt kitabuhum [she closed their book]

ÃÛáÞÊ ßÊÇÈäÇ
aghlaqt kitabuna [she closed our book]


Present
íÛáÞ ßÊÇÈí
Yaghlaq kitabi [he is closing my book]

ÊÛáÞ ßÊÇÈí
taghlaq kitabi [she is closing my book]

ÊÛáÞ ßÊÇÈß
taghlaq kitauka [she is closing your book]

íÛáÞ ßÊÇÈäÇ
yaghlaq kitabuna [he is closing our book]

ÊÛáÞ ßÊÇÈåã
taghlaq kitabuhum [she is closing their book]

[AbuMubarak]

Originally posted by Ruqayyah

do we just know it is baabuka and not baabaka etc
by memory? [/B] the word is baabun

baabuka

baabuki

the root word is not baaban, that would be baabaka, which is incorrect

so you remove the tanween and the word becomes baabu (no n sound)

then you work from there

same with kitaabun, maktabun, maktabatun, etc

[Ruqayyah]

Yup I get it now. SubhanAllah that makes sense.

So did I make mistakes in my sentences?
Hmm, I think I have a problem with knowing how to convert the arabic letters into English letters and thus I probably pronouncing the words wrong. Dang. Well at least i am understanding even if my speech will be laffed outta Arabia, lol.
I need to be able to have speaking lessons too.

Could you edit my posts where I have made mistakes? Particularly in the english text...

Sorry to be a pain. My enthusiasm means I am posting looooong posts that are probably riddled with mistakes... :scratch:

[Ayah]

Sis Ruqayyah, your last 2 posts of sentences are correct :) Masha Allah, nice job :)

[Ammarah]

Originally posted by Ayah
Sis Ruqayyah, your last 2 posts of sentences are correct :) Masha Allah, nice job :)

:eek: :crying: :D


Ruqayyah Ammarah.

[Ruqayyah]

Question


åá ÊÝÊÍ ÇáÈÇÈ ¿
hal tiftah al baab? [did you open the door?]

åá ÃÛáÞÊ ÇáÈÇÈ ¿
hal aghlaqt al baab? [did you close the door?]

åá ÝÊÍ ÇáÈÇÈ ¿
hal fatah al baab [did he open the door?]

åá ÃÛáÞ ÇáÈÇÈ ¿
hal aghlaq al baab? [did he close the door?]

åá ÝÊÍÊ ÇáÈÇÈ ¿
hal fataht al baab? [did she open the door?]

åá ÃÛáÞÊ ÇáÈÇÈ ¿
hal aghlaqt al baab? [did she close the door?]

[Ruqayyah]

åá ÝÊÍÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿
hal fataht an nafdhat? [did you open the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿
hal aghlaqt an nafidhat? [did you close the window?]

åá ÝÊÍÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿
hal fataht an nafidhat [did she open the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿
hal aghlaq an nafidat? [did he close the window?]

[Ruqayyah]

Did I get it right?

al baaba, an nafidhata (f)
al baabu, an nafidhatu (m)

Or is it just al baab and an nafidhat ?

[Bilal]

- Subject : al baabu, an nafidhatu

Al baabu Maftuh (the door is open)

- Object: al baaba, an nafidhata

Iftah al baaba (open the door)

After (Min (from), Ila (to), 3an (about), 3ala (on), Fi (in), L (belong), K (similar ): al baabi, an nafidhati


Udkhul min al baabi. (come through the door).

In case you stop on the word, no need to spell the ex-alphabet on the end: so you can say:

Al baabu Maftuh (the door is open)

Iftah al baab. (stop)

Udkhul min al baab.(stop)

Iftah al baab.(stop)

Originally posted by Ruqayyah
Did I get it right?

al baaba, an nafidhata (f)
al baabu, an nafidhatu (m)

Or is it just al baab and an nafidhat ?

[Bilal]

åá ÝÊÍÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal fatahta an nafdhata? [did you (male) open the window?

hal fatahti an nafdhata? [did you (female) open the window?

åá ÃÛáÞÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqta an nafidhata? did you(male) close the window?

hal aghlaqti an nafidhata? did you(female) close the window?

åá ÝÊÍÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal fatahat an nafidhata [did she open the window?

åá ÝÊÍ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal fataha an nafidhata [did he open the window?

åá ÃÛáÞ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqa an nafidata? [did he close the window?]


åá ÃÛáÞÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqat an nafidata? [did she close the window?]


åá ÃÛáÞæÇ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqu an nafidata? [did they (male, more than 2) close the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞä ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqna an nafidata? [did they (female, more than two) close the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞÇ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqa an nafidata? [did they ( 2 male/female) close the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞÊã ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqtum an nafidata? [did you (more than 2 male) close the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞÊäø ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqtun-na an nafidata? [did you (more than 2 female) close the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞÊãÇ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿

hal aghlaqtuma an nafidata? [did you ( 2 male/female) close the window?]


Originally posted by Ruqayyah

åá ÝÊÍÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿
hal fataht an nafdhat? [did you open the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿
hal aghlaqt an nafidhat? [did you close the window?]

åá ÝÊÍÊ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿
hal fataht an nafidhat [did she open the window?]

åá ÃÛáÞ ÇáäøÇÝÐÉ ¿
hal aghlaq an nafidat? [did he close the window?]

[Ruqayyah]

Shukran akhi. Alhamdulillah

I understand now. And if the object belongs to her? :

did she open her window?
åá ÝÊÍÊ äÇÝÐÊåÇ¿
hal fatahat nafidhatha?

Is that correct?

[Ruqayyah]

Originally posted by Bilal
- Subject : al baabu, an nafidhatu

Al baabu Maftuh (the door is open)

- Object: al baaba, an nafidhata

Iftah al baaba (open the door)

After (Min (from), Ila (to), 3an (about), 3ala (on), Fi (in), L (belong), K (similar ): al baabi, an nafidhati


Udkhul min al baabi. (come through the door).

In case you stop on the word, no need to spell the ex-alphabet on the end: so you can say:

Al baabu Maftuh (the door is open)

Iftah al baab. (stop)

Udkhul min al baab.(stop)

Iftah al baab.(stop)

Çá ÈÇÈ ãÝÊæÍ
al baab maftuh [the door is open]

ÇõÏÎá ãä Çá ÈÇÈ
udkhul min al baab [come through the door]

are they correct?

[Bilal]

It is correct , but more accurate :


hal fatahat nafidateha?


Originally posted by Ruqayyah
Shukran akhi. Alhamdulillah

I understand now. And if the object belongs to her? :

did she open her window?
åá ÝÊÍÊ äÇÝÐÊåÇ¿
hal fatahat nafidhatha?

Is that correct?

[Bilal]

Correct


Originally posted by Ruqayyah

Çá ÈÇÈ ãÝÊæÍ
al baab maftuh [the door is open]

ÇõÏÎá ãä Çá ÈÇÈ
udkhul min al baab [come through the door]

are they correct?

[AbuMubarak]

Originally posted by Bilal
It is correct , but more accurate :


hal fatahat nafidateha? bilal, why is it nafidhat -e- ha and not nafidhat-a-ha?

hal fatahat nafidataha, no?

[Bilal]

You are correct !

Nafedataha is object.

Thanks AbuMubarak

Originally posted by AbuMubarak
bilal, why is it nafidhat -e- ha and not nafidhat-a-ha?

hal fatahat nafidataha, no?

[AbuMubarak]

ruqayyah, you better be speaking arabic all around your house now, or else we are going to send you a bill

[AbuMubarak]

ok, lets try daily stuff on the shabbak (internet)

ruqayyah, did you read my post?


(dont answer that, thats for you to translate)

post is ar-risalat or al-bareed, or if someone knows a better word, please fill us in

and of course, ruqayyah, you have to answer in arabic

[Ruqayyah]

Originally posted by AbuMubarak
ok, lets try daily stuff on the shabbak (internet)

ruqayyah, did you read my post?


(dont answer that, thats for you to translate)

post is ar-risalat or al-bareed, or if someone knows a better word, please fill us in

and of course, ruqayyah, you have to answer in arabic

hmmm
abuMubarak said:


åá ÞÑÃÊ ÈÑíÏí ¿
hal qarat bareedi?

I say:

äÚã. ÞÑÃÊ ÈÑíÏß
na'am. Qarat bareeduka.

wa

Ýí ÈíÊí
fi bayti [in my home]

ÃÊßáøã atakal lam [i am speaking]

ÇááøÛÉ ÇáÚÑÈíøÉ
al lughatul Arabia [the language of Arabic]

[Ruqayyah]

ÕÍíÍ ¿

[peace2u]

Salaam everybody

Not quite sure, but the arabic looks correct. You actually speak arabic around the house???? cool!!! I wish I had that much discipline:(

[Ayah]

Actually, because Br. Abu Mubarak is asking you (a female) if you read his post, the question would more accurately be written as:

Hal qara'atee baridi?
Did you (singular;female) read my post?

Your reply to the question is right :)

[Ammarah]

:D cool

Yeh i am speaking Arabic and my hubby is jealous :D He says it sounds complicated, lol...!
Nobody knows what I'm talking about, and I can hardly speak for laughing. I explain to my kids, and it's too cute hearing them try too..

Of course my arabic is severly limited, but this time last week I knew zilch... now i use what I've learned.... :cool:

[Ammarah]

ÇáÈÑíÏ

al bareed [the post/mail]

ÇáßÊÇÈ

al kitaab [the book]

ÇáãÌáøÉ

al majal lah [the magazine]

ÇáÌÑíÏÉ

al jareedah [the newspaper]

[Ammarah]

ÇÓÊãÚ :listen

how is it pronounced?

astama'a?


or some other way?

[peace2u]

Salaam everyone

I think it is pronounced

istam'i

Now I have a question........................

when do you use
ÇÓãÚ asma'

or


ÇÓÊãÚ istam'i when your telling someone to listen to you??

[Ayah]

When you tell someone to listen to you, you say, "is'tamaa" or "is'maa." So, the alif has a "kasra" under it. When you say "as'tamaa" or "as'maa," there's a "fat'ha" on the alif. That's the difference between the command form and the form when you're speaking about yourself. Sorry, I don't know how to use arabic when typing, so I hope you're able to decipher what I'm saying.

~Ayah :)

[AbuMubarak]

ÅÓãÚ

ÅÓÊãì

ÃÓãÚ

ÃÓÊãÚì

[Ammarah]

Command: ÅÓÊãÚí ÅÓãÚ


ÃÓÊãÚí ÃÓãÚ

[Ammarah]

lol, mine was wrong, had to add the ya. Why the ya on the end? And what is the difference between astama'a and asma'a?