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In generosity and helping others be like a river
In compassion and grace be like the sun
In concealing others faults be like the night
In anger and fury be like a dead
In modesty and humility be like the earth
In tolerance be like the sea
Either look as you are or be as you look
Redmist
21-09-08, 03:48 PM
What does - "In anger and fury be like the dead" mean?
:scratch:
truepath
21-09-08, 03:58 PM
What does - "In anger and fury be like the dead" mean?
:scratch:
meaning do NOT react, cuz you dont see a dead body or dead person showing any reaction once they are dead.
aint that hard to figure out is it s:
scribble
21-09-08, 04:02 PM
Irony?
..
Redmist
21-09-08, 04:39 PM
meaning do NOT react, cuz you dont see a dead body or dead person showing any reaction once they are dead.
aint that hard to figure out is it s:
Thank you Kubs :rolleyes:
No....but it does'nt make sense "In Anger and Fury be like a Dead" !!
would have been better to say "In Anger and Fury be like THE Dead".
JMO :rolleyes:
truepath
21-09-08, 04:41 PM
Thank you Kubs :rolleyes:
No....but it does'nt make sense "In Anger and Fury be like a Dead" !!
would have been better to say "In Anger and Fury be like THE Dead".
JMO :rolleyes:
now we talkin bout linguistic errors aye :rolleyes:
Redmist
21-09-08, 04:46 PM
now we talkin bout linguistic errors aye :rolleyes:
Aye we are! You got a problem with that? :coolbro:
I think it s all wrong, replying on behalf of someone else! Its Kubs is thread and its best for her to clarify what she means by that!
Personally i think its rude ppl stating what they think thrid party means by such and such. If ppl are gonna do that at least say "I think it means, or in my opinion it means...."
Irony?
..
Posseeebleh.
I like it, although it needs a bit of explaining. How is the sun compassionate?
scribble
21-09-08, 05:18 PM
Kubs! Explain it please, I am intrigued. *sits and waits*
truepath
21-09-08, 05:21 PM
Posseeebleh.
I like it, although it needs a bit of explaining. How is the sun compassionate?
Passionate..... In the sense that sun is providing/giving light to the whole manking without asking, expecting anything in return from anyone.
I have heard all these saying from scholars before.
Achaaaa...explain the rest then?:1popcorn:
truepath
21-09-08, 05:24 PM
Achaaaa...explain the rest then?:1popcorn:
s: whats so hard? aren't they self explanatory? :rubeyes:
*sigh* some slow coaches in this world s:
Redmist
21-09-08, 05:26 PM
Achaaaa...explain the rest then?:1popcorn:
LOL..........Brother Truepath is like the interpereter for everything everyone says on here :rolleyes:
s: whats so hard? aren't they self explanatory? :rubeyes:
*sigh* some slow coaches in this world s:
If you're trying to call me slow then state it outright. I was merely giving you the opportunity to share your interpretation.
LOL..........Brother Truepath is like the interpereter for everything everyone says on here :rolleyes:
No comment
truepath
21-09-08, 05:30 PM
LOL..........Brother Truepath is like the interpereter for everything everyone says on here :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
truepath
21-09-08, 05:31 PM
If you're trying to call me slow then state it outright. I was merely giving you the opportunity to share your interpretation.
No comment
nah redmist is more interested to hear from kubs... so i wud let her explain them all... even tho i feel no explanation is required and their self explanatory :p
Redmist
21-09-08, 05:35 PM
:rolleyes:
What?? Its the truth enit!
nah redmist is more interested to hear from kubs... so i wud let her explain them all... even tho i feel no explanation is required and their self explanatory :p
Their is explanation required, even if it be for the line i originally quoted!!
truepath
21-09-08, 05:37 PM
What?? Its the truth enit!
Their is explanation required, even if it be for the line i originally quoted!!
their? or you meant 'there' earlier u were talkin bout linguistic errors on this thread didnt you? :rolleyes:
Redmist
21-09-08, 05:46 PM
their? or you meant 'there' earlier u were talkin bout linguistic errors on this thread didnt you? :rolleyes:
Stop trying to be clever before i bust a brick on your head :p
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In generosity and helping others be like a river
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Redmist
21-09-08, 05:49 PM
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In generosity and helping others be like a river
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To each their own Hiking ahem :p
truepath
21-09-08, 05:51 PM
Stop trying to be clever before i bust a brick on your head :p
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err ok.. calm down.. looks like i have picked up on your emotional side :rolleyes:
trying to be clever? I never try cuz i simply don't need to s: cuz I know i am :P
that was deep.
hey truepath that namaazi quote in your sig? who's is it? i went to an AMAZING talk by Maulana Qari Rasheed Ajmeri today and he quoted the couplet
truepath
21-09-08, 05:56 PM
that was deep.
hey truepath that namaazi quote in your sig? who's is it? i went to an AMAZING talk by Maulana Qari Rasheed Ajmeri today and he quoted the couplet
I dunno, I read it or heard it somewhere ... ages ago.. and I remember it
Redmist
21-09-08, 05:58 PM
err ok.. calm down.. looks like i have picked up on your emotional side :rolleyes:
trying to be clever? I never try cuz i simply don't need to s: cuz I know i am :P
My emotional side! I just say it like it is, no emotional side, i would have said that to you in the street if this discussion took place there.
No comment at ur last quote! ur about as clever as my 3 year old niece p
truepath
21-09-08, 06:01 PM
My emotional side! I just say it like it is, no emotional side, i would have said that to you in the street if this discussion took place there.
No comment at ur last quote! ur about as clever as my 3 year old niece p
well i think u wudnt have just said it if the discussion was in street... seeing ur frustration... i guess u wud have tried ur luck with the brick lol
PS: Its a shame innit you aint even as clever as your niece while someone who you think are clever as your niece is able to understand all the sayings/phrases in this thread lol :p
Calm down people :eek:
..it's just a commercial:coolbro:
Redmist
21-09-08, 06:02 PM
well i think u wudnt have just said it if the discussion was in street... seeing ur frustration... i guess u wud have tried ur luck with the brick lol
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Achaaaa...explain the rest then?:1popcorn:
:torture: why you playing dumbo for you viking!
summer786
21-09-08, 07:52 PM
i dont get the last line....look as you are or be as you look?? whaaa?? :scratch:
kubs isnt replying coz she doesnt understand it herself :p
truepath
21-09-08, 08:17 PM
i dont get the last line....look as you are or be as you look?? whaaa?? :scratch:
kubs isnt replying coz she doesnt understand it herself :p
hmmm........
look (at others) as you are (yourself) or be (yourself) as you look (at others)?
read it all together including the words in braces :p
also notice the words in braces 1&4 and 2&3 is same :p
What? ^^
I understood it to mean :
Look as you are (show your true colours on the outside) or be as you look (if you appear to others a certain way, you should actually behave that way.)
Don't put on a false front
:scratch:
Redmist
21-09-08, 08:27 PM
What? ^^
I understood it to mean :
Look as you are (show your true colours on the outside) or be as you look (if you appear to others a certain way, you should actually behave that way.)
Don't put on a false front
:scratch:
Thats what i thought as well!
Meaning dont decieve people, put up a false front in other words!
In generosity and helping others be like a river
In compassion and grace be like the sun
In concealing others faults be like the night
In anger and fury be like a dead
In modesty and humility be like the earth
In tolerance be like the sea
Either look as you are or be as you look
:salams
Thank you for sharing the poem, :jkk:.
I liked the underlined lines in particular.
truepath
21-09-08, 08:33 PM
What? ^^
I understood it to mean :
Look as you are (show your true colours on the outside) or be as you look (if you appear to others a certain way, you should actually behave that way.)
Don't put on a false front
:scratch:
I understood it as....
Look (at others) as you are (meaning look at them the way you are yourself, ie., dont look down upon them)
or be (yourself) as you are (meaning be yourself like that first, the way you look at others... meaning if you have certain expectations from people first you stand on those expectations yourself)
hmmm..... s:
hmmm........
look (at others) as you are (yourself) or be (yourself) as you look (at others)?
read it all together including the words in braces :p
also notice the words in braces 1&4 and 2&3 is same :p
:salams
I thought it meant...
Either look at things in the state that you are at present (i.e. the person you are right now, admiring the ways of the world), or be what you see (i.e. practice the great ways of the world - i.e. what you admire). So in other words, this line is telling you to act, rather than just stupidly admire.
truepath
21-09-08, 08:34 PM
:salams
Thank you for sharing the poem, :jkk:.
I liked the underlined lines in particular.
wa alykum assalaam... I didn't think of it as a poem but more like sayings or phrases :p
Redmist
21-09-08, 08:35 PM
I understood it as....
Look (at others) as you are (meaning look at them the way you are yourself, ie., dont look down upon them)
or be (yourself) as you are (meaning be yourself like that first, the way you look at others... meaning if you have certain expectations from people first you stand on those expectations yourself)
hmmm..... s:
Hmmmmm
your winding yourself into a tight circle mate :p
Let the author explain it herself, if she ever shows up :rolleyes:
truepath
21-09-08, 08:36 PM
:salams
I thought it meant...
Either look at things in the state that you are at present (i.e. the person you are right now, admiring the ways of the world), or be what you see (i.e. practice the great ways of the world - i.e. what you admire). So in other words, this line is telling you to act, rather than just stupidly admire.
thats what exactly I thought... I limited it only towards people but you have explained it much better by putting it in much proper words mashaAllah
wa alykum assalaam... I didn't think of it as a poem but more like sayings or phrases :p
Poems can be written like that; a collection of sayings/phrases/inspiring or reflective lines.
hmm in what sense is the sea tolerant? as in it houses many things, be tolerant with it all ?
I understood it as....
Look (at others) as you are (meaning look at them the way you are yourself, ie., dont look down upon them)
or be (yourself) as you are (meaning be yourself like that first, the way you look at others... meaning if you have certain expectations from people first you stand on those expectations yourself)
hmmm..... s:
:salams
I thought it meant...
Either look at things in the state that you are at present (i.e. the person you are right now, admiring the ways of the world), or be what you see (i.e. practice the great ways of the world - i.e. what you admire). So in other words, this line is telling you to act, rather than just stupidly admire.
:wswrwb:
Gordon Bennet! Anybody else?
Allahu Alam
thats what exactly I thought... I limited it only towards people but you have explained it much better by putting it in much proper words mashaAllah
Kool.
Redmist
21-09-08, 08:38 PM
hmm in what sense is the sea tolerant? as in it houses many things, be tolerant with it all ?
Now ur changing sides! Hmmm.
The ephemeral nature of people
truepath
21-09-08, 08:39 PM
hmm in what sense is the sea tolerant? as in it houses many things, be tolerant with it all ?
I think there is a hadith... which says Allah has commanded / ordered the sea to show tolerance/restraint...(or allah himself is controling the sea thru his order cant remember the exact words) otherwise seeing the sins of mankind... the sea is enough to destroy the whole mankind if Allah gave free will to the sea
:wswrwb:
Gordon Bennet! Anybody else?
Allahu Alam
This makes me miss English lessons, and in particularly, my lovely English teacher... :(
Poetry - as well as things pertaining to poetry - includes the arousal of discussion.
I am confused...I can see how you lot would come up with that interpretation but there is no way that was the most obvious one!
:confused:
Now ur changing sides! Hmmm.
The ephemeral nature of people
Blimey! That word has been stuck in my head for about an hour..freaky :eek:
This makes me miss English lessons, and in particularly, my lovely English teacher... :(
Poetry - as well as things pertaining to poetry - includes the arousal of discussion.
Me too :(A Level English Lit..:crying:
I think there is a hadith... which says Allah has commanded / ordered the sea to show tolerance/restraint...(or allah himself is controling the sea thru his order cant remember the exact words) otherwise seeing the sins of mankind... the sea is enough to destroy the whole mankind if Allah gave free will to the sea
cool :up:
safiya i so agree
english lit lessons specially in year 11...so many good memories of the discussions and anatating....i kinda miss it lol
I am confused...I can see how you lot would come up with that interpretation but there is no way that was the most obvious one!
:confused:
To me, what I wrote, was the most obvious interpretation; in regards to the context of the preceding lines.
To me, what I wrote, was the most obvious interpretation; in regards to the context of the preceding lines.
Aye, we all have our unique perception. :hidban:
Me too :(A Level English Lit..:crying:
cool :up:
safiya i so agree
english lit lessons specially in year 11...so many good memories of the discussions and anatating....i kinda miss it lol
I miss it SO much; that is, English as a whole. I can't believe I never went through with it at AS Level... Hmmm.
Aye, we all have our unique perception. :hidban:
Thats the great thing about poetry! So long as we don't go wacky with the interpretations. Haha.
Redmist
21-09-08, 08:51 PM
I am confused...I can see how you lot would come up with that interpretation but there is no way that was the most obvious one!
:confused:
Blimey! That word has been stuck in my head for about an hour..freaky :eek:
Why?
Doing your English Lit Homework? :p
Im going to Taraweeh neway.........Cya all!
I miss it SO much; that is, English as a whole. I can't believe I never went through with it at AS Level... Hmmm.
A level rocked! was MUCH better than GCSE, and took it to a whole other level!
Why?
Doing your English Lit Homework? :p
Im going to Taraweeh neway.........Cya all!
No. I don't do English lit at uni :crying:
A level rocked! was MUCH better than GCSE, and took it to a whole other level!
I can imagine; my GCSE English teacher advised that I should take English Lit & Lang at A Level, saying that I would absolutely love how in depth the ideas are explored to - and just how free you are with the ideas. It's ashame I never got to experience that. :( I'm happy with what I am taking now, so it's all kool anyway, but yeah...
In generosity and helping others be like a river
In compassion and grace be like the sun
In concealing others faults be like the night
In anger and fury be like a dead
In modesty and humility be like the earth
In tolerance be like the sea
Either look as you are or be as you look
Assalaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah..
I am not a follower of Sunnism, however, the above seem to be the seven rules of Mevlana (Sufi Mystic)..I was given a present from a friend with these words on it..I believe each sentence refers to..
a) Like generosity..the river continues to flow...
b) In compassion..the sun does not exclude its warmth to anyone...
c) The night conceals everything in darkness, sins are not exposed...
d) In anger..react as though dead, do not cast an angry word in retaliation...
e) Modesty and Humilty are like the earth in that humankind walks upon it and in physicality it is underneath everyone...
f) In tolerance..everything is accepted in the same way that the sea accepts the water from every gully and river and stream...
g) Either look as you are or be as you look..simple, do not live under false pretenses, double standards and hypocriticism...
The advice it beautiful and stems from the actions apparent in our beloved deen.
Assalaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah..
I am not a follower of Sunnism, however, the above seem to be the seven rules of Mevlana (Sufi Mystic)..I was given a present from a friend with these words on it..I believe each sentence refers to..
a) Like generosity..the river continues to flow...
b) In compassion..the sun does not exclude its warmth to anyone...
c) The night conceals everything in darkness, sins are not exposed...
d) In anger..react as though dead, do not cast an angry word in retaliation...
e) Modesty and Humilty are like the earth in that humankind walks upon it and in physicality it is underneath everyone...
f) In tolerance..everything is accepted in the same way that the sea accepts the water from every gully and river and stream...
g) Either look as you are or be as you look..simple, do not live under false pretenses, double standards and hypocriticism...
The advice it beautiful and stems from the actions apparent in our beloved deen.
I love this poem also Mashallah - beautiful advice :up:
Assalaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah..
I am not a follower of Sunnism, however, the above seem to be the seven rules of Mevlana (Sufi Mystic)..I was given a present from a friend with these words on it..I believe each sentence refers to..
a) Like generosity..the river continues to flow...
b) In compassion..the sun does not exclude its warmth to anyone...
c) The night conceals everything in darkness, sins are not exposed...
d) In anger..react as though dead, do not cast an angry word in retaliation...
e) Modesty and Humilty are like the earth in...
Jazaakillahu khairan
Just wanted to make a quick correction, the word i highlighted in red should have been 'Sufism'
truepath
26-09-08, 11:12 AM
Jazaakillahu khairan
Just wanted to make a quick correction, the word i highlighted in red should have been 'Sufism'
Yesterday when I read not a follower of sunnism, I took it like as so follower of shia'ism then?
Yesterday when I read not a follower of sunnism, I took it like as so follower of shia'ism then?
Assalaamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah..
Just to correct myself if there is any misunderstanding, I AM SUNNI, alhamdu lillah (I was supposed to write, 'I am not a follower of Sufism).'
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