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Username123
23-05-08, 06:55 PM
AssalamOlaikum,

A few things have been troubling me recently,

My mother recently accused one of my best friends (who is a hindu) of supplying information to someone who does black magic too us.

She basically claimed that my friend is supplying information to a third party (who do not like us) and who in turn are somehow doing "black magic" on us.

She got her information from a person in Pakistan. I know what she does is wrong (i.e. asking this guy in Pakistan if XYZ is doing black magic on us) because it does not work that way, one must seek refuge with Allah, but my mother never listens and now she keeps ringing this person in Pakistan to provide us information so called "jinns" tell him or something like that (I know this sounds out of this world but believe me). Now these spiritual entities this guy in Pakistan uses have told(?) him that my best friend is doing this....and my mum said he "throws" some kind of thing on me like a curse or something? I really don't have such an in-depth knowledge to explain...

What do I do? I'm split...of course I'll listen to my mum and its been very hard breaking contact with my friend who is abit confused as to why I have.

Now he wants to add me on facebook (where all my pics are) but I'm worried of his true intentions. What do I do here? But other friends of mine have pictures of me on their facebook and he can get them from there and so I'm worried...

Hes been my friend for seven years, but now even my mum has come between us and put doubts in my head of his true intentions. I feel like I've lost two people in my life, my mother (to black magic) and my friend (to lies or deceit).

Thanks for reading,

P.S. I know this sounds like the latest script of a bollywood drama, but please understand I am actually living this and it is in fact making my life a complete misery.

Strict2TheSunna
24-05-08, 07:31 PM
I understand what ur going through, and I'lljust tell you this, the guy in pakistan is a complete liar and he can't do anything from there. Don't trust anyone who works with jinn.

RashidD
25-05-08, 01:55 AM
For the moment, take down all the facebook pictures.

Pennypacker
26-05-08, 01:49 AM
You don't for a second believe what your mother is telling you, right? Rest assured, your Hindu friend does not know me and there's no way he could have placed a curse on me or something that make me try to confuse you.

You should try your best to get your mother out of this -- with all due respect -- fantasy world. I believe in the unknown, but I never talk about it for a simple reason: it's unknown and there's a reason it's unknown. You shouldn't believe anyone who talks about the unknown with some sort of knowledge. It's something we should not be doing.

I suppose your mother is too far from the rational world to even engage in a serious discussion about her feelings, but if it is possible, try to sit her down and tell her where she is wrong on religious grounds. For one, as I have mentioned before, we're not supposed to be talking about the unknown, especially while pretending to know something about it.

If a rational conversation won't work, try to press her on how she could have possibly obtained this information. How is she so sure that her friend in Pakistan is not cursed by black magic or voodoo? Why won't she take steps to have the friend prove something? For example, she should ask the friend what her social security number is to show that he knows something he shouldn't know.

It's amazing she's telling you not to talking with someone when she is the person who shouldn't be talking with the friend in Pakistan.

By the way, as far as Facebook goes, you can specify exactly who sees what. You can set specific restrictions on who sees what parts of your profile. Add the Hindu friend to our friends list, but restrict him from seeing the pictures. But if you've known him for seven years, are you really going to believe your mother that he's after you when you know what your mother is up to?

Username123
26-05-08, 09:34 AM
AssalamOlaikum,

I thank all three of you for your replies. Mash-Allah I found them very very useful.

I tried sitting my mother down to talk to her on where she is going wrong religiously (as Pennypacker suggested). She alhamdulillah realised the error of her ways. But she keeps going back. It's like shes locked in and something is holding her back. I just feel like she is so far in, that she will never be able to escape and this makes me upset about her soul and the punishment she will face in the hereafter.

I always tried to convince my mother that my friend is not bad, but she wouldn't have any of it. She would believe this pakistani "voodoo guy" over me. Her mindset from what it was 3 years ago is now completely different. I miss my old mom....somethimes I feel like the person she is now is someone who is alien to me, someone who I don't know. Thanks to all this black magic stuff she is now someone completely different....for the worst...

Sometimes I used to ask her "ask that pakistani guy to prove this and that"...and everytime I asked, he was wrong or he didn't answer.

She says this guy in Pakistan uses "white magic" and I told her there is no such thing. She tried to convince me that what she was doing was NOT haraam. I tried to convince her different.

I have had to adapt tremendously to the situation Allah has given me. I have, as a result, purchased books on this subject matter and have read around the subject to obtain a greater understanding.

I'm sorry this post has been drawn out...

But if there are any brothers and sisters reading this thread and don't really feel how I feel please do the following;

1) Thank Allah (SWT)

2) Pray sincerely that this "disease" does not infect your family because it infected mine and 3 years later we are still suffering financially and mentally.

Please feel free to reply further.

All the best.

Unregistered123
10-07-08, 02:11 PM
Salam,

My mother has agreed that I can hang out with these friends, but I'm not sure if she reluctantly made that decision....

I don't wanna hang out with these friends if shes going to be upset about it...I don't wanna upset her....

What should I do?