View Full Version : Muslim man threatens to sue driving school for sending transsexual instructor
Leena_Cnd
21-05-08, 04:24 PM
A Muslim client claimed he had been shortchanged,
by an 'all-female' driving school, when he booked a
female instructor to teach his wife
how to drive.
The Muslim is threatening to sue after 'Miss' :rolleyes: Sherdley,
42, turned up for the lesson.
'You have sent me a man. Send me a proper female.
How dare you send a man with a deep voice' claims
the Muslim.
The man, a Muslim from the Meadowhall district of
Sheffield who has not been named, claimed the company
deliberately sent a man disguised as a woman.
The school's comment was 'We are not racist. We are not
sexist-If anyone was being so it was that man.'
:buttkick:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1020767/Muslim-man-threatens-sue-driving-school-sending-transsexual-instructor-teach-wife.html
( be aware 'his' photo is incl. in the story)
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Chained_Water
21-05-08, 04:29 PM
pathetic
if it's an all-female driving school why the hell has this tranny joined it? why not join a normal driving school that has male and female instructors and to whose customers it will obviously not matter whether they are being taught by a man or a woman.
but an all-female driving school is targetting a certain customer base, people who want FEMALE instructors specifically because either they wouldn't be comfortable learning from a man or for other perhaos cultural or religious reasons they may want a same-sex instructor
to then claim the man was being abusive and threatening is RUBBISH
he asked for something and did not get it, instead they tried to pass off a transexual as a woman.. and he has said he will sue.. that is a far cry from "abuse and threats".. they are sensationalising it to give the impression he's been abusive and threatened to cause the transexual harm.
complete joke
if you ask for a female instructor it's because you want a female instructor
not a "woman trapped in a mans body going through transition and in the middle of a sex change"
muslimah85
21-05-08, 04:34 PM
unfortunatly a post operation or someone considering a Gender operation has to be recognised in their new sex under sex discrimination law regardles of what we think morally under the law he/she is recognised as a woman, for the school to turn him/her down would be direct sex discrimination therfore they were within their means employing him/her and sending him/her on the job
If the hubby had an objection he just needed to make a request for another instructer without a big fuss. Living in this country regardless of your beliefs you have to accept working and encountering gay/lesbian/bi and trans people
Chained_Water
21-05-08, 04:44 PM
:smack: ..that is dodgy. Taking hormones and whatever does not make you a woman, or a woman a man.. genetically you are what you always were, no matter how you dress or how you mess up your body.
I guess he had an agenda in choosing an all-female driving school instead of a normal one.. trying to assert his new "gender" on everyone else in a work environment where being a woman is important because that is what your customers are coming to you for specifically. :S
Got to agree with ther muslim man here.
He asked for and paid for a woman, to teach his wife, and he got a man.
The fact that the man had fake boobs and wears a dress doesnt make him a woman.
Open and shut case.
muslimah85
21-05-08, 04:52 PM
yes but that is OUR belief, however our beliefs and morals are not what makes the law and under the law he is recognised as Post operative female hence he is recognised as a woman whether we like it or not.
You have to remember sometimes you cant assert opinion over something like this when legally ts correct, if it was saudi or somewhere fair enough becuase thats the law of that land and this is the law here,
ps; not my belief but a rational percetion considering the facts
This bit is beyond farce,
""For the past six years I have been what is correctly called "transitioned". I still have to undergo final surgery but legally I am a woman.
That is what my birth certificate says and that is what the gender recognition certificate proves. For that prejudiced and biased man to threaten to sue me and the driving school is totally and utterly wrong""
Ok, so legally he is a woman, his birth certificate says he is a woman, he even has a gender recognition certificate that states he is a woman.
And yet he was plainly born a man, and he still has male genitalia !!
Its a crazy world.
Phoenix CG
21-05-08, 04:58 PM
what the .... is that thing :|
Tranquillity
21-05-08, 05:02 PM
:vomit:Two words: Daily Mail
muslimah85
21-05-08, 05:03 PM
Two words: Daily Mail
ditto
What sort of world do we live in where gender is questionable :smack:
Salman Al-Farsi
21-05-08, 05:29 PM
hillarious.
:rotfl:
you should read the comments on that page...daily mail readers, honestly.
stupid man...what's wrong with the bloody law!
(apparently calling him a man is illegal though)
Lord Summerisle
21-05-08, 05:35 PM
Who cares, as long as you pass your driving test! :rolleyes:
It would certainly encourage to you pass quickly. What if people you knew saw you driving around with a tranny sitting in the passenger seat. People would ask questions!
Who cares, as long as you pass your driving test! :rolleyes:
loads of women would rather learn from another woman, not a man, or a confused part transsexual having a mid-life crisis
muslimah85
21-05-08, 06:15 PM
funny thing is if any of the non muslims went to a gentlemens club where women dance or used call girls and one of then turned out to be a post operative female theyd hit the roof! :smack:
if they dismissed the word muslim from the article the views would have differed so much!
nomoreillusions
21-05-08, 06:20 PM
:smack: ..that is dodgy. Taking hormones and whatever does not make you a woman, or a woman a man.. genetically you are what you always were, no matter how you dress or how you mess up your body.
It's really sad just how ambiguous gender can be! I can't claim to be a long-time expert or anything, but I've watched several documentaries and read up on it and sometimes, it's not really as clear cut as we think!
Well, this obviously doesn't apply in every case, but there are cases where even gentically it's ambiguous! Some people have messed up chromosomes - where they do have an XXY instead of simple XX (female) or XY (male). They can often be 'male' because of the Y, but genetically can't be said to be fully male or fully female.
Some people are born with both sets of reproductive organs, and usually neither are fully developed (and often doctors take it upon themselves to assert a single gender over another)
So without knowing the exact circumstances behind this person's choice to undergo gender change, we really shouldn't start criticising. It could be 'he' was born with an extra Y chromosome, or that the doctors arbitrarily assigned 'him' a male gender upon birth that was not in keeping with the realities of 'his' body.
As for the actual incident, I don't see why the man could not simply have said that they didn't feel comfortable with that instructor and requested a new one.
muslimah85
21-05-08, 06:22 PM
As for the actual incident, I don't see why the man could not simply have said that they didn't feel comfortable with that instructor and requested a new one.
exactly it blew way out of proportion maybe by him not dealing effectively and making a fuss or maybe people grasped onto the fact he was muslim and just made it into a big issue
AbuMubarak
21-05-08, 06:24 PM
you mozlems better get with the times, you are NOT in saudi arabia
this is the free, liberal, modern west
where men are men, and women are women, and men can be women and women can be men, and men can marry women and women can marry men, and men can marry men and women can marry women
life is about choices and freedom to do whatever you want to do, even if its remove your plumbing and replace it with the opposite plumbing
nomoreillusions
21-05-08, 06:27 PM
exactly it blew way out of proportion maybe by him not dealing effectively and making a fuss or maybe people grasped onto the fact he was muslim and just made it into a big issue
That's also a possibility. Most likely a bit from column A, a bit from column B.
Then again, that's probably the reaction a redneck would give, too. Still, it's overreacting and unnecessary when an easier solution existed.
Chained_Water
21-05-08, 06:53 PM
We're not talking about people being born with abnormal sexual organs and so on. We are talking about people being 100% man or woman and deciding God made a mistake in His Divine body factory and they given them the wrong model. :rolleyes:
The modern paradigms of gender and sexuality are designed to allow for such perversions as accepting same-sex relationships as normal and equal to male-female marital relationships and accepting as normal and valid for a person with no phsyiological/medical reason to have their sexual organs altered to decide to [attempt to] switch sex and live as the opposite gender.
This is all truly a battle against what is true and right, and the rest of us are being forced to comply because these ideas are being LEGALISED and it effectively being made unlawful to disagree with them!
Chained_Water
21-05-08, 06:54 PM
exactly it blew way out of proportion maybe by him not dealing effectively and making a fuss or maybe people grasped onto the fact he was muslim and just made it into a big issue
You are probably right, but despite the fact it's a sensationalist news story that doesn't take away from the ridiculousness of the situation, which is what people are commenting on really.
What sort of world do we live in where gender is questionable :smack:
Some people are born with both male and female reproductive organs. It gets confusing every now and then.
Some people are born with both male and female reproductive organs. It gets confusing every now and then.
:up: but other people choose to make it questionable. I should have said "where gender is made questionable"
greenshirt
22-05-08, 04:57 AM
in the UK, one can legally change their gender. this person is now a woman, and is treated as such because of that.
if the man's wife did not like having a transgendered instructor, they should have just requested someone else.
we must understand that the UK is non muslim. the laws here and their opinions are many times different then ours. but we must accept this fact and not go all crazy when a law is implemented that we disagree with. if we want our laws implemented, then we need to move to a muslim country. but suing and causing a huge racket is absolutely ridiculous.
muslimah85
22-05-08, 07:34 AM
in the UK, one can legally change their gender. this person is now a woman, and is treated as such because of that.
if the man's wife did not like having a transgendered instructor, they should have just requested someone else.
we must understand that the UK is non muslim. the laws here and their opinions are many times different then ours. but we must accept this fact and not go all crazy when a law is implemented that we disagree with. if we want our laws implemented, then we need to move to a muslim country. but suing and causing a huge racket is absolutely ridiculous.
ditto well said
Lord Summerisle
22-05-08, 08:24 AM
in the UK, one can legally change their gender. this person is now a woman, and is treated as such because of that.
if the man's wife did not like having a transgendered instructor, they should have just requested someone else.
we must understand that the UK is non muslim. the laws here and their opinions are many times different then ours. but we must accept this fact and not go all crazy when a law is implemented that we disagree with. if we want our laws implemented, then we need to move to a muslim country. but suing and causing a huge racket is absolutely ridiculous.
Finally, the voice of reason.:up:
Chained_Water
22-05-08, 08:40 AM
Whatever the laws that doesn't take away our right or ability to voice our opinion. If we think the law on this issue is stupid we can do so and laws in the West are not immutable nor immune from criticism.
RazielTemp
22-05-08, 09:25 AM
A Muslim client claimed he had been shortchanged,
by an 'all-female' driving school, when he booked a
female instructor to teach his wife
how to drive.
The Muslim is threatening to sue after 'Miss' :rolleyes: Sherdley,
42, turned up for the lesson.
'You have sent me a man. Send me a proper female.
How dare you send a man with a deep voice' claims
the Muslim.
The man, a Muslim from the Meadowhall district of
Sheffield who has not been named, claimed the company
deliberately sent a man disguised as a woman.
The school's comment was 'We are not racist. We are not
sexist-If anyone was being so it was that man.'
:buttkick:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1020767/Muslim-man-threatens-sue-driving-school-sending-transsexual-instructor-teach-wife.html
( be aware 'his' photo is incl. in the story)
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Alhumdulillah, this is what we aught to be Doing, as this shows how Much he Detests Tran-sexuality,
I read in the Times paper yesterday, that a registrar a Christian Lady she refused to deal with Sodomites, so she has been suspended of her job,
Such people are to be praised for Sticking to the Laws prescribed by Allah Ta'ala ...
May Allah Ta'ala Eliminate Sodomites and their Like of the face of the Earth,
Ameen,
:jkk:
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