The most blessed marriage...

[Anikaa]

is the LEAST expensive one.

Extravagance in dowry payments and wedding celebrations are all in conflict with the Islamic Law, because the most blessed marriage is the least expensive one; and the more the expenses are decreased, the more the blessing are increased.

In most cases, this is a matter which falls upon the women, because it is the women who impose excessive dowries on their husbands. Likewise, extravagance in wedding celebrations is one of those things which Islamic Law has prohibited, and it is included in the Words of Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala, Most High in Chapter 7 verse 31 which means; "but waste not by extravagance, certainly He (Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala) likes not al-Musrifun (those who waste by extravagance)."

We must be in accordance with Islamic Law and a person should not exceed its limits nor be extravagant because Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala, Most High has prohibited extravagance.

As for what is said regarding the honeymoon, it is more evil and more hated because it is imitation of non-Muslims, and a great amount of wealth wasted by it.

It is also causes loss in many religious matters especially if they spend it in non-Islamic countries because they return with habits and customs which are harmful to them and to their society. These matters are causes of anxiety for the Muslim community. It is not the matter if they traveled to perform umrah or to Madinah.

- Shaykh Muhammad bin Salih al-Uthaymeen (Rahimullah)
Fatawa Islamiyah - ;The book of Marriage;Volume 5,pg.300


Uqbar bin Amir (radi'Allahu anhu) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (sall'Allahu alayhi wasalam) said, "The best dower is the easiest one." {Related by Abu Dawood. Al Haakim graded it as saheeh}

[$HugoBoss$]

My wedding is going to be on a cruise ship :D

[Anikaa]

Not funny. There are times for humour and this surely isn't. You have to be serious when it comes to matters of DEEN.

[$HugoBoss$]

Not funny. There are times for humour and this surely isn't. You have to be serious when it comes to matters of DEEN.

I'm dead serious, what makes you think i'm not???????

It's my choice at the end of the day and i'll do what i feel is right.

[Anikaa]

What you "feel" is right? Subhana-Allah. Ukhtee, if you have with such a mentality then how do you obey Allah and His messenger [sallallaahu alayhi wassalam]? The Shaykh [rahimullaah] just explained the ruling of having an "expensive" marriage with daleel [sound evidence] and you say such a thing?

May Allah guide you, ameen!

[Anikaa]

And please keep your marriage "ideas" to yourself. This thread is not about that. Go to the 10000's of other trashy marriage threads and talk there.

[turquoise]

Salaam,

There's already another thread about this, but I'm curious about this part:

As for what is said regarding the honeymoon, it is more evil and more hated because it is imitation of non-Muslims, and a great amount of wealth wasted by it.

Is all travel other than Hajj, Umrah, and visiting family considered by Sheikh Uthaymeen to be haram due to the amount of money 'wasted' on it? Or is it only travel immediately after the wedding (the 'honeymoon') that he has a problem with?

And where do people get the idea that every social practice invented by non-muslims must be bad? Isn't it possible for a muslim to take a single thing (such as a honeymoon) and think 'Wow, that's a good idea!', and then do it?

If the sheikh's opinion is that all non-essential travel is haram or makruh, then I respectfully disagree, though I understand his view. If his view is that honeymoons (but not other trips) are haram because the West did it first... that doesn't even make sense.

[Lambo5688]

My wedding is going to be on a cruise ship :D

errr I think that ship sailed a while ago...

[Danniella]

Salaam,

There's already another thread about this, but I'm curious about this part:



Is all travel other than Hajj, Umrah, and visiting family considered by Sheikh Uthaymeen to be haram due to the amount of money 'wasted' on it? Or is it only travel immediately after the wedding (the 'honeymoon') that he has a problem with?

And where do people get the idea that every social practice invented by non-muslims must be bad? Isn't it possible for a muslim to take a single thing (such as a honeymoon) and think 'Wow, that's a good idea!', and then do it?

If the sheikh's opinion is that all non-essential travel is haram or makruh, then I respectfully disagree, though I understand his view. If his view is that honeymoons (but not other trips) are haram because the West did it first... that doesn't even make sense.



I totally agree with you.

Also, note:

Travel the earth and see how God has brought the Creation into being" (Qur'an, 29:20)

Allah gave us the world and many other things with it.
Why should we not seek out Allah's creation on Kaffir's land?

Did Allah make Kaffir's land exempt from wonderful creation?!?
Great Barrier Reef in Australia, for example?

[`asiya]

is the LEAST expensive one.

Extravagance in dowry payments and wedding celebrations are all in conflict with the Islamic Law, because the most blessed marriage is the least expensive one; and the more the expenses are decreased, the more the blessing are increased.

In most cases, this is a matter which falls upon the women, because it is the women who impose excessive dowries on their husbands. Likewise, extravagance in wedding celebrations is one of those things which Islamic Law has prohibited, and it is included in the Words of Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala, Most High in Chapter 7 verse 31 which means; "but waste not by extravagance, certainly He (Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala) likes not al-Musrifun (those who waste by extravagance)."

We must be in accordance with Islamic Law and a person should not exceed its limits nor be extravagant because Allah subhanahu wa ta'aala, Most High has prohibited extravagance.

As for what is said regarding the honeymoon, it is more evil and more hated because it is imitation of non-Muslims, and a great amount of wealth wasted by it.

It is also causes loss in many religious matters especially if they spend it in non-Islamic countries because they return with habits and customs which are harmful to them and to their society. These matters are causes of anxiety for the Muslim community. It is not the matter if they traveled to perform umrah or to Madinah.

- Shaykh Muhammad bin Salih al-Uthaymeen (Rahimullah)
Fatawa Islamiyah - ;The book of Marriage;Volume 5,pg.300


Uqbar bin Amir (radi'Allahu anhu) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (sall'Allahu alayhi wasalam) said, "The best dower is the easiest one." {Related by Abu Dawood. Al Haakim graded it as saheeh}

:salams :jkk: excellent post and reminder alhamdulillah

[Brother Noor]

Thus, this is a good topic to be dicussed, beacuse Iv never really thought about it..

Alhamdulillah, Iv never been one for big super dooper weddings with really nice posh expensive £50 a plate serving, with a limitation of the amount of guests that are there,though I have been to one, it was reallly boring.. to tell you the truth.....

but then I have been to many a weddings where a small town hall is hired and they invite alot more people and the whole family is there etcetc.. and honestly, I do prefer them as I enjoy it being able to play with the kiddis aswell as chill with everyone.. Allahualamm so yea extravagance should be avoided..

Upon honeymoon, there is always a boundry.. when one says using lots of money for holidays to see the world.. and on honeymoon in specific.. 'lots of money' can be viewed differently on the individual, small example if theres a bro who is earning lots and has money lying about, whats wrong with him using it.. ok he should use it the right way.. but within moderation

ok I understand about the kafir countries, but within kafir countries, there are islamic areas where the ummah are living..

For me iv always wanted to travel the world.. and if you go with the intention not only as a holiday and enjoy yourself and to see the beauty of Allahs creation, you should also see where and what type of islamic history or influence you to might find in set place that could help in our knowledge of Islam
Never have I been on holiday without having gone out to learn something about Islam or to view a historic site, Dubai, Portugal, Pakistan, blablabla..

Allahu Alam

For example I really want to go malasia, but I dont see that happening anytime soon..

soo maybe after Im married inshAllah...

lets say for discussion, I decided to go for my honeymoon?
what would your opinion be?

[`asiya]

Thus, this is a good topic to be dicussed, beacuse Iv never really thought about it..

Alhamdulillah, Iv never been one for big super dooper weddings with really nice posh expensive £50 a plate serving, with a limitation of the amount of guests that are there,though I have been to one, it was reallly boring.. to tell you the truth.....

but then I have been to many a weddings where a small town hall is hired and they invite alot more people and the whole family is there etcetc.. and honestly, I do prefer them as I enjoy it being able to play with the kiddis aswell as chill with everyone.. Allahualamm so yea extravagance should be avoided..

Upon honeymoon, there is always a boundry.. when one says using lots of money for holidays to see the world.. and on honeymoon in specific.. 'lots of money' can be viewed differently on the individual, small example if theres a bro who is earning lots and has money lying about, whats wrong with him using it.. ok he should use it the right way.. but within moderation

ok I understand about the kafir countries, but within kafir countries, there are islamic areas where the ummah are living..

For me iv always wanted to travel the world.. and if you go with the intention not only as a holiday and enjoy yourself and to see the beauty of Allahs creation, you should also see where and what type of islamic history or influence you to might find in set place that could help in our knowledge of Islam
Never have I been on holiday without having gone out to learn something about Islam or to view a historic site, Dubai, Portugal, Pakistan, blablabla..

Allahu Alam

For example I really want to go malasia, but I dont see that happening anytime soon..

soo maybe after Im married inshAllah...

lets say for discussion, I decided to go for my honeymoon?
what would your opinion be?

the "honeymoon" thread is right here bro

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170792

[Brother Noor]

JazakAllah

[Supernova Nebula]

Thus, this is a good topic to be dicussed, beacuse Iv never really thought about it..

Alhamdulillah, Iv never been one for big super dooper weddings with really nice posh expensive £50 a plate serving, with a limitation of the amount of guests that are there,though I have been to one, it was reallly boring.. to tell you the truth.....

but then I have been to many a weddings where a small town hall is hired and they invite alot more people and the whole family is there etcetc.. and honestly, I do prefer them as I enjoy it being able to play with the kiddis aswell as chill with everyone.. Allahualamm so yea extravagance should be avoided..

Upon honeymoon, there is always a boundry.. when one says using lots of money for holidays to see the world.. and on honeymoon in specific.. 'lots of money' can be viewed differently on the individual, small example if theres a bro who is earning lots and has money lying about, whats wrong with him using it.. ok he should use it the right way.. but within moderation

ok I understand about the kafir countries, but within kafir countries, there are islamic areas where the ummah are living..

For me iv always wanted to travel the world.. and if you go with the intention not only as a holiday and enjoy yourself and to see the beauty of Allahs creation, you should also see where and what type of islamic history or influence you to might find in set place that could help in our knowledge of Islam
Never have I been on holiday without having gone out to learn something about Islam or to view a historic site, Dubai, Portugal, Pakistan, blablabla..

Allahu Alam

For example I really want to go malasia, but I dont see that happening anytime soon..

soo maybe after Im married inshAllah...

lets say for discussion, I decided to go for my honeymoon?
what would your opinion be?

Its MALAYSIA bro :p

[Brother Noor]

my bad..
jazaks

[Supernova Nebula]

my bad..
jazaks

no prob. that's my motherland:D

[PK Aali]

:salams

The most blessed marriage...
is the LEAST expensive one.

Nicely put mashaaAllah

[rukayya]

[quote=Anikaa;2590083]is the LEAST expensive one.

Extravagance in dowry payments and wedding celebrations are all in conflict with the Islamic Law, because the most blessed marriage is the least expensive one; and the more the expenses are decreased, the more the blessing are increased.

.........
salam, yeah, thats right! :hidban:
wa salam