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Islamisthebest
15-05-08, 01:19 AM
Aslam o alaikam and hope everyone is good

Was thinking about this today about people gettin married and wanted to ask, do newly wed people such as Muslims, do they go on honeymoons or is that just for the non muslims or am i being stupid...

any who wanted to ask where is the best place(s) to go... i was thinking of Dubai, Egypt or mauritius..

What are your views on this?

LastFriday
15-05-08, 01:59 AM
Umm..ya interesting questions...anything wrong with going on Honeymoons? Is that imitating the kuffars? But I think Yemen, Malaysia, Indonesia, Dubai, Antartica.

Pippin1376
15-05-08, 02:28 AM
From Islamqa

After the wedding the couple travel to another place for a holiday, and this is called the honeymoon. What is the ruling on that?.

Praise be to Allaah.

What the people call the honeymoon is when the husband takes his wife to another city or country, and these trips are usually to places of entertainment and sin, thus it is a reprehensible custom and bad habit.

This trip is even more reprehensible if it is to a kaafir country, as that results in many negative consequences that affect both husband and wife. The husband may be influenced by the habits and customs of the kuffaar, as he may turn away from his religion and good habits. The wife may be influenced by the kaafir women and she may give up her religious commitment and modest ways, and may look down on the good character and traditions of her people and drift away into corruption, promiscuity and wanton display.

Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan said in al-Mukhallas al-Fiqhi (2/581):

Nowadays many wealthy young people travel after marriage to foreign, kaafir countries to spend the honeymoon there, as they call it, but in fact it is a “poisonmoon”, because it is a haraam month which leads to many evils, such as taking off hijab, wearing the clothes of the kuffaar, watching the bad deeds and foolish customs of the kuffaar, and visiting places of leisure, until the woman comes back influenced by these bad ways and looking down on the ways of her Muslim society. This journey is extremely haraam and those who do it must be stopped from doing it. The guardian of the woman should also prevent her from taking this journey. End quote.

Yes, if the couple travel someplace for a holiday, and there are no evils in the place they go to, or they take a journey that is approved of in Islam, such as travelling to do ‘umrah, for example, there is nothing wrong with that.

And Allaah knows best.

Pippin1376
15-05-08, 02:29 AM
From Islamonline.net

Scholars of Islam, As-Salamu `Alaykum wa Rahamtullah wa Barakatuh. Many Muslims go on honeymoon, but I see no evidence for this in the Qur'an or the Prophet’s hadiths. Isn't this blind aping of the West or are there benefits attached to such a practice?

Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Brother, first of all, let’s commend your deep reflection on the Book of Allah, the Qur’an, and the Sunnah of His Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) which is manifested in your question.

Islam is a practical religion; it does not float in the stratosphere of imaginary ideals but remains with the human being on the ground of realities and day-to-day concerns. It does not regard people as angels but accepts them as mortals who eat food and walk in the marketplace. Islam does not require of Muslims that their speech should consist entirely of religious utterances, that their silence should be a meditation, that they should listen to nothing except the recitation of the Qur'an, nor that they should spend all their leisure time in the mosque. Rather, it recognizes that Allah has created human beings with needs and desires, so that, as they need to eat and drink, they also need to relax, and to enjoy themselves.

Focusing more on the question in point, we’d cite the following fatwa issued by the late Sheikh Sayyed Mutawalli Ad-Darsh, former Chairman of the UK Shari`ah Council:

“First, we should not expect the Glorious Qur'an to be a prescription for every detail of things that happen in our day-to-day life. The Glorious Qur'an deals essentially with Allah's attributes and our relationship with Him. As it sets universal moral precepts that regulate life affairs, it also guides us to what will grant us salvation in the life to come. So, the Glorious Qur’an is mainly for the moral enhancement of society. The Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) takes care of so many things.

There are many practices, customs and habits in Muslim societies, which change from time to time. As long as they don't encroach into the area which is Haram (unlawful), there is no restriction on them and we say they are subject to the changing requirements of society.

Things invented shortly after the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) include soap, new methods of sifting flour, the table and towels. These weren't considered bad because they are dealing with our ordinary day-to-day affairs.

As regards honeymooning, if a couple would like to relax and be far away from the distractions of family and friends, there is no harm. In fact, we can say that Western society is aping the Muslims on this, for we have a basis for honeymooning. It is Sunnah for the newly-married couple to spend seven days together, and it is beneficial for them to go out and enjoy this period of their life together to build a basis for all the trials and difficulties they will experience later on.”

Islamisthebest
15-05-08, 02:32 AM
hmm thanks for that pippin 1376....

would it be allowable to go to Muslim countries or is the whole honeymoon thing not allowed. what if it was a holiday as you mentioned before and the couple went together and so forth

Pippin1376
15-05-08, 02:33 AM
And where would I go? Dubai would be nice, Mecca and Medina are ideal. I think I'd like to travel to many places and see all the different masjids built, like Spain. They have such beautiful mosques there.

Pippin1376
15-05-08, 02:35 AM
hmm thanks for that pippin 1376....

would it be allowable to go to Muslim countries or is the whole honeymoon thing not allowed. what if it was a holiday as you mentioned before and the couple went together and so forth

From what I gathered, as long as it's in a Muslim country and the trip is Halal then it's okay. Honeymoon for many people is going to exotic locations where semi-nude people are there, so in that case it would be haram.

Islamisthebest
15-05-08, 02:36 AM
Hmm interesting, ditto to Mecca and Medina.. ive always wanted to go to Egypt and see the pyramids and go to other places.

Islamisthebest
15-05-08, 02:37 AM
From what I gathered, as long as it's in a Muslim country and the trip is Halal then it's okay. Honeymoon for many people is going to exotic locations where semi-nude people are there, so in that case it would be haram.

Ok thanks that makes sense J/K

Dubai, Medina and Mecca here i come once i get married InshAllah:o:inlove::D

$HugoBoss$
15-05-08, 03:26 AM
From what I gathered, as long as it's in a Muslim country and the trip is Halal then it's okay. Honeymoon for many people is going to exotic locations where semi-nude people are there, so in that case it would be haram.

Thats not true at all, big misconception there. People choose a destination where they mind find peace, comfort and privacy.

Pippin1376
15-05-08, 03:42 AM
Thats not true at all, big misconception there. People choose a destination where they mind find peace, comfort and privacy.

Okay, no argument there. But again, for most people where do they go for their honeymoon? I'm not saying Muslim, but a lot of other people not in the religion go to hot countries. A classmate of mine went to Barbados. The honeymoon places they advertise is where all the hot young folk go to, which would be Haram for Muslims. Unless you find another place away from that, then it wouldn't be too bad, but it would be better to go to a Muslim country.

LastFriday
15-05-08, 10:43 AM
Okay, no argument there. But again, for most people where do they go for their honeymoon? I'm not saying Muslim, but a lot of other people not in the religion go to hot countries. A classmate of mine went to Barbados. The honeymoon places they advertise is where all the hot young folk go to, which would be Haram for Muslims. Unless you find another place away from that, then it wouldn't be too bad, but it would be better to go to a Muslim country.

could you not find like a off season time to go to one of those off chart Islands? I mean, we, just like all the other people in the world want to check out the beautiful beaches and oceans once in a while too ya know. Theres fitnah right outside my DOOR and down the busy downtown street where people JOG bare naked...not trying to justify going to Cancoon or Barbados or anything, clearly theres more Fitnah there, but its Also EVVVEERRRRY Where. During peak seasons im sure its probably not the right place to go. But i'm sure off season you can find some remote locations? Allahu Alam, Who cares, im not even going to barbadoes :p I'm off to Madagascar :p

`asiya
15-05-08, 10:48 AM
how about scrap the "honeymoon" and stay at home, and send what u would have spent to Palestine instead, u will get lots of blessings from Allah and ur money will help your brothers and sisters who are more in need insha Allah with food and medical bills .

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170703

stephenoskie
15-05-08, 10:52 AM
I wanted to go on a honey moon when I get married inshAllah. I wanted to go to Dubai and then to umrah :)

But I was told that it isnt good to go.

LastFriday
15-05-08, 10:57 AM
how about scrap the "honeymoon" and stay at home, and send what u would have spent to Palestine instead, u will get lots of blessings from Allah and ur money will help your brothers and sisters who are more in need insha Allah with food and medical bills .

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=170703

ok. I'll send some money and THEN i'll go on my honeymoon? I mean, I do feel the pain of my muslim brothers and sisters around the world, ESPECIALLY Palestine.

eshanz
15-05-08, 12:48 PM
i have always thought when i got married my honeymoon would be going to hajj. i dont think anything could bring closer to Allah (SWT) and each other as couple other than this beautiful and imaan refreshing occasion :D.a nd why not, u both have begun a new chapter in ur life u should start it the best way with Allah (SWT) blessings.
i dislike dubai, Allah (SWT) blessed it with such wealth and they waste it tryin to please kuffars with alchohol, stupidly tall and expensive buildings, clubs, u would never think it is a muslim country. disgusting
wasalam

RazielTemp
15-05-08, 01:21 PM
so far as My knowledge goes, there is no such thing as Honeymoon as the Kuffars have ... in Islam,

but there is no harm in going on Hilidays to other countries, so long as no Haram act is performed, or deliberately witnessed ...

If However a Saheeh-Hadith says otherwise, then I am mistaken,

:jkk:

Fairy
15-05-08, 04:31 PM
Aslam o alaikam and hope everyone is good

Was thinking about this today about people gettin married and wanted to ask, do newly wed people such as Muslims, do they go on honeymoons or is that just for the non muslims or am i being stupid...

any who wanted to ask where is the best place(s) to go... i was thinking of Dubai, Egypt or mauritius..

What are your views on this?

Go Turkey, loads to do

Islamiyyah
15-05-08, 04:56 PM
Me and my husband have yet to go on our honeymoon but we have made a final desicion it will be to Dubai. I cant wait:D:hidban: In the summer of 2009 insh'Allah along with going to Morocco for our wedding party :)

Russo
15-05-08, 06:53 PM
Aslam o alaikam and hope everyone is good

Was thinking about this today about people gettin married and wanted to ask, do newly wed people such as Muslims, do they go on honeymoons or is that just for the non muslims or am i being stupid...

any who wanted to ask where is the best place(s) to go... i was thinking of Dubai, Egypt or mauritius..

What are your views on this?

There is nothing in the Sunnah that states a muslim couple should go on a honey moon. This is clearly imitating the kuffar.

Its odd how couples can find the time and money to waste on such things but dont think about the most important and obligatory journey called Hajj!!!

Since we can drop dead tomorrow, how we can we stand before our Lord and justify a honeymoon over our obligatory Hajj.

I would rather do Umrah or Hajj with my new partner.

Russo
15-05-08, 06:57 PM
Me and my husband have yet to go on our honeymoon but we have made a final desicion it will be to Dubai. I cant wait:D:hidban: In the summer of 2009 insh'Allah along with going to Morocco for our wedding party :)


Wow 2009, even I cant predict I will be alive then. Do you have special powers?

Islamisthebest
15-05-08, 07:29 PM
Lol^^^^^

turquoise
15-05-08, 10:30 PM
Salaam,

There is nothing in the Sunnah that states a muslim couple should go on a honey moon. This is clearly imitating the kuffar.


Not sunnah = imitating the kuffar? Interesting logic.

Its odd how couples can find the time and money to waste on such things but dont think about the most important and obligatory journey called Hajj!!!

Since we can drop dead tomorrow, how we can we stand before our Lord and justify a honeymoon over our obligatory Hajj.

The vast majority of newly married couples are too young (by several decades) to get Hajj visas, and Umrah visas aren't necessarily easy to get either. Most of them aren't choosing one or the other - the Saudis won't let them in, so the choice has been made for them. Yelling 'haram' at Muslim couples won't change the Saudi rules on that issue.

I would rather do Umrah or Hajj with my new partner.

To each his own, but most people wouldn't want to start their married life in ihram. I certainly wouldn't. There's a reason no one gets married during Ramadan...

Joha
15-05-08, 10:41 PM
Wow 2009, even I cant predict I will be alive then. Do you have special powers?

:rolleyes: bit hot headed aren't you

naught wrong with making plans more than a few days in advance. Quite helpful actually

And what's wrong with taking a holiday when you get married. If that's 'imitating the kuffar' then so is going on the internet, or sitting in a plane.

umee
15-05-08, 10:55 PM
I'd love to go Dubai :inlove:
We have shahr el asel which is translated into the month of honey :inlove:
1 whole month of happiness.

Joha
15-05-08, 10:56 PM
1 whole month of happiness.

followed by 10 years of sadness, Nice strategy :p

~Warda~
15-05-08, 11:03 PM
so far as My knowledge goes, there is no such thing as Honeymoon as the Kuffars have ... in Islam,

but there is no harm in going on Hilidays to other countries, so long as no Haram act is performed, or deliberately witnessed ...

If However a Saheeh-Hadith says otherwise, then I am mistaken,

:jkk:

I was thinking along the same lines...if ur not going to a place where haram acts are going to be performed then it should be ok?
I also think that if a married couple are going to live with husbands parents + family, then it would definitely be nice for the couple to have some time alone together straight after marriage. ie. go on a holiday. Umrah is defintely :inlove:

~Warda~
15-05-08, 11:08 PM
Salaam,




The vast majority of newly married couples are too young (by several decades) to get Hajj visas, and Umrah visas aren't necessarily easy to get either. Most of them aren't choosing one or the other - the Saudis won't let them in, so the choice has been made for them. Yelling 'haram' at Muslim couples won't change the Saudi rules on that issue.


To each his own, but most people wouldn't want to start their married life in ihram. I certainly wouldn't. There's a reason no one gets married during Ramadan...

Sis Im not sure we're your getting the idea that its married couples are too 'young' to obtain hajj visas? Coz ive never heard of any such thing...well not in the uk anyway. And Umrah visas aren't hard to get either...
And About the ihram if ur going on umrah u wouldnt be in ihram for all that long like u would be in hajj...and it would defintely be nice to start off ur marriage in such a holy place...but like u said, each to his own :)

turquoise
15-05-08, 11:53 PM
Sis Im not sure we're your getting the idea that its married couples are too 'young' to obtain hajj visas? Coz ive never heard of any such thing...well not in the uk anyway. And Umrah visas aren't hard to get either...
And About the ihram if ur going on umrah u wouldnt be in ihram for all that long like u would be in hajj...and it would defintely be nice to start off ur marriage in such a holy place...but like u said, each to his own :)

Salaam,

Yes, you're right about ihram for Umrah - guess I wasn't thinking when I wrote that. :) For most of the world, the Saudi government won't consider Hajj visa applications if you're below a certain age. I remember a few years ago, applications (from Jordan) were limited to those born in 1948 or before. I know those rules don't apply to US citizens, but they do to most of the rest of the world.

Also, they would have to do the marriage contract before applying for the visa (for the man to be legally the woman's mahram), which could take a long time. Umrah visas are only issued for certains months, so there's also that to plan around if the couple wants to do it directly after the wedding.

I know all this because I've been trying to do it for years - it really ISN'T that easy :p

Stylish-Girly
16-05-08, 12:11 AM
Go Malaysia i know a couple who gone Tunisia but not many people like there and oh Muslims go on honeymoon too :)

afsalim
17-05-08, 08:09 PM
Nothing wrong with honeymoon.....


I recently got married and I'm off to two-week honeymoon with my wife to Thailand.

~Warda~
18-05-08, 12:33 AM
Salaam,

Yes, you're right about ihram for Umrah - guess I wasn't thinking when I wrote that. :) For most of the world, the Saudi government won't consider Hajj visa applications if you're below a certain age. I remember a few years ago, applications (from Jordan) were limited to those born in 1948 or before. I know those rules don't apply to US citizens, but they do to most of the rest of the world.

Also, they would have to do the marriage contract before applying for the visa (for the man to be legally the woman's mahram), which could take a long time. Umrah visas are only issued for certains months, so there's also that to plan around if the couple wants to do it directly after the wedding.

I know all this because I've been trying to do it for years - it really ISN'T that easy :p

lol sis and i can tell u its not true for the UK because i work at a travel agency and deal with this everyday!!!:p

Umrah Visas take upto 2 weeks max...unless ur going at rush time like Ramadhan, or hajj. So couples can plan their Umrah maybe a few weeks after their married?

And citizens of ANY age can go...although i do know about certain age restrictions in some countries (like India). But thats usually men under 40 ( I havnt really heard about the 1948 one though ) and even then these men are allowed to have visa aslong as they are accompanying a woman as her mahram. So theres no problem there for married couples.

And Umrah visas are issued for most of the year except a certain time after Ramadhan and Hajj i think. So no problem there either. :)

Im not sure why its so difficult for u from usa, Alhumdulillah in the uk its not hard at all.

So go Umrah for ur 'honeymoon' people! :p

RazielTemp
18-05-08, 01:33 PM
I was thinking along the same lines...if ur not going to a place where haram acts are going to be performed then it should be ok?
I also think that if a married couple are going to live with husbands parents + family, then it would definitely be nice for the couple to have some time alone together straight after marriage. ie. go on a holiday. Umrah is defintely :inlove:

Ditto, but I'd rather it was Hajj if one can goto Makkah, because then at least the Fard would be completed, whereas in the Case of Umrah, we may not have the Opportunity to complete the Hajj, which is Obligatory on those who can afford the Journey ... :jkk::)

Soljaress
20-05-08, 09:46 AM
Maldives
Or Umrah N Hajj..that Way U Strenghten Ur Deen With Ur Partner B4 U Start A New Life 2getha =p

Guvna
20-05-08, 09:57 AM
i think its important the newly married couple have time together, to bond and get to know one another without the added pressure/tag-alongs/relos etc if possible.. its the first time (well should be!!!) that they will meet, and so to get off on a good dtart and make a strong foundation, a holiday would be a good idea!
It needn;t be expensive, can be a cottage somewhere in the countryside, or a friends huose a lil further away from home! or, if circumstances allow, go to see another country or place!

Dubai for a holiday destination after wedding... :rubeyes:!!! it's like :vomit:! thats what i think of dubai.. hugggeeellyyyy over rated, and really not much to do! unless your made of millions and want to shop!!

Malaysia Singapore - Maldives - Mauritius - Morocco - Egypt - Tunisia

Theres a whole world out there! :up:

Reema
22-05-08, 12:49 AM
Going on a Mediterrenean cruise ship for honeymoooon for 3 weeks-should be fun inshallah, if he misbehaves, i'll just throw him over board :up: :D :o

afsalim
23-05-08, 09:46 PM
Going on a Mediterrenean cruise ship for honeymoooon for 3 weeks-should be fun inshallah, if he misbehaves, i'll just throw him over board :up: :D :o

LOL. You're harsh sis.

Anyway, have fun. :up:

Joha
23-05-08, 10:03 PM
Going on a Mediterrenean cruise ship for honeymoooon for 3 weeks-should be fun inshallah, if he misbehaves, i'll just throw him over board :up: :D :o

:rotfl: gives new meaning to 'jumping the shark' in a marriage

Hope you enjoy it, try some sailing if you get the chance, or a spot of fishing!

Bint ISLAM
26-05-08, 03:00 AM
for those of u that want to go dubai.... its really overrated.... as long as u dnt go wid too much expectation then u wont get too dissapointed...

plus if u are going UAE then go to sharjah, its 20 mins drive from dubai and much more cosier and more islamic...

dnt get me rong i love going there, been 3 times in 2 years, and i misss it too but the first time i went i went with wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much expectation, its reall nice to be around muslims and be able to pray whereeva cuz theres bareeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee mosques mashallah tabarakhallah, i member the first time i went there were like more than 4 azanz i could hear going off :inlove:

jst sister if u wanna go in the summer then u no when u go into a sauna and theres that hot air around u and u kinda cant breathe... thats wat the air is like in the summer :D but alhamdullilah everywheres AC, and i mean everywhereeeeeeeeee,

but the whether is getin cooler every year liek it rains there now lol

oh yer its qwite materistic

ThE aPpReNtIcE
26-05-08, 03:57 PM
its a private island off the maldives..all by ourselves...and u have to swim thru 5 ft waters to get to the stairs of the condo =)

all for about 1400 us dollars for 10 days

Ur sis in Islam
26-05-08, 04:29 PM
I could never imagine going on holiday with just one person!:rubeyes: i duno i guess it would be boring, im use to having a lot of people around me! But i guess being with your husband is different!