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stresshead
14-05-08, 03:38 PM
ive been having difficulties in my family, my family thinks getting married to your own caste is better than getting married "out of the caste". they think that two different castes can not intergate. i have explained that it is important to get married to a muslim bt caste is just a label and your should not judge people of their caste, but they are not listening. i have not ideas on how 2 change their minds. they just think its shame to marry out of family

dhakiyya
14-05-08, 04:39 PM
Please note, do this with the utmost respect and gentleness, don't be confrontational about it

Ask them where in the Qur'an or Sunnah does it mention the term caste - then ask them where they think that "caste" comes from - Islam or Hinduism?

Caste is entirely from hinduism, its a fake contruct based on nothing but social snobbery. It is a way for the rich and powerful to stay rich and powerful. It does not exist oustide of hinduism and in the social/cultural baggage of some desi Muslims because when their forefathers converted to Islam from hinduism they didn't fully reject the caste system as they should have.

Medievalist
14-05-08, 05:29 PM
Your family have some valid points - if there is a huge difference between the family backgrounds then it is very difficult for a marriage to blossom. Perhaps your parents have the best intentions for you and Im sure there are some eligible people for you in your caste. :)

AHMED..BHAI
14-05-08, 06:10 PM
even though muslim can marry muslim of course

there still is the issue of COMPATIBILITY

there is no caste in islam though we are advised to marry in similar/familiar families

the hikmah of this should not need explaining to those married for over 10 years or so

compatibility must be paramount and amicable/familiar.common outlooks and attitudes help in the challenge that marriage is

RazielTemp
14-05-08, 09:07 PM
ive been having difficulties in my family, my family thinks getting married to your own caste is better than getting married "out of the caste". they think that two different castes can not intergate. i have explained that it is important to get married to a muslim bt caste is just a label and your should not judge people of their caste, but they are not listening. i have not ideas on how 2 change their minds. they just think its shame to marry out of family

Quote to them the the Last Sermon of Rasulullah, :saw:

"All mankind is from Adam(pbuh) and Hawa/Eve(pbuh), an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except in Taqwa and Good action, (Amal e Salih)"

the Two Points mention are what the only things in the sight of Allah, which are used to differentiate between people ...

1) Taqwa / Fear of the Gadhab/Wrath/Punishment of Allah, and seeking the Pleasure of Allah Ta'ala, there are further meanings applicable to this word ...

2) Amal-e-Salih / Righteous Actions ...
Insha'allah that will get them too see the Haqq ...

:jkk:

stresshead
15-05-08, 12:08 PM
its just that my family are not willing to give a chance to get to know the other family because of the caste, which i ave tried to explain to them dat caste is just a label

LastFriday
15-05-08, 01:11 PM
He's marrying the woman not the CASTE or their family or their society.

stresshead
19-05-08, 12:33 PM
im having a hard time, ive jus spoken to my mum n she is so determined to get me married in the same "caste" iv explained things to her about there is no caste in islam but she is not listening, im really hurt and upset the fact that they are not willing to give another family a chance to know them, please help i dnt no wat to do nemore