brothers-do you want her to...?

[farah.a]

assalamualayykum. this is a question for the brothers who are still to marry. the question is that
do you want your fuuture wife to wear a scarf/jubbo.
the reason i am asking this is that i know a few wwho wouldnt like there wife to wear it.
inshallah with this thread we can encourage the brothers and describe importance of hijab
ameen.
allah-fis.

[Phoenix CG]

i think you'd probs find here all bros will say hijab so theres no point in this thread cas they r already educated here.

[Mujib]

LEAVE HER ALONE! THIS IS A GOOD THREAD!

I want my wife to wear a hijab, and is practising inshallah...so find me one!!

[MMS]

i dont mind just as long as she's peng like ya gemme

[Omar Mukhtar]

would'nt it be best to ask husband before marrige if he'll have problem with her wearing hijaab/jubbah, No point fighting over it once your married.

if he say's no he's loss, move on find brother who won't have no problem.

[Ur sis in Islam]

I cant really answer this question but Inshallah i want my husband to have a beard!!:coolbro:

and if there are bros out there he don't want thier wife to wear hijab/jilbab, trust me sister's there not worth it!! why would any husband want thier wife to advertise her beauty to the whole world! its truly beyond my understanding!

[Kal-El]

I don't see how any husband would have a problem with his wife wanting to cover up to the degree. What's usually an issue is the potential wife not wanting to cover up as much as he may want to.

But what Muslim woman wouldn't atleast have a hijab?

[RashidD]

Khimaar (head-cover), abaya/ jilbab at least... I would like Niqaab too.

[LastFriday]

Niqaab, Eye Mesh, Gloves, Jilbab, and an Umbrella

[RoadWarrior]

i think you'd probs find here all bros will say hijab so theres no point in this thread cas they r already educated here.

well it seems like 1 bro so far doesn't acknowledge the fard requirement of the jilbaab

Three people Allah will debar from Jannah: an alcoholic, a person who is not dutiful to his parents, and ad-daiyouth , who approves perverted beahvior of his wife. (2) [Imam Ahmad, al-Musnad , Vol.2,p.69.]



But it's important that men, be they husbands/brothers, have the islamic feeling of gheerah for their womenfolk and thus this leads to feelings of wanting their womenfolk to be protected from the prying eyes of non mehram men.

a man who doesnt care if his wife/sis/mother is wearing just a material on her head but jeans/fitted clothes well...doesn't say much about that man..does he not care about his womenfolk???about their safety from other men????

from net:

The hijab fits the sound innate and natural fitrah and feeling of women and men which call for haya and gheerah. Haya is inhibition or bashfulness and it is a part of one’s faith to show haya and demand it from those who are his responsibility. The Prophet, sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, said, “Haya is part of emaan.” (Bukhari). And when the woman wears hijab she is affirming that part of her faith and helping her parents or husband fulfil their responsibilities to Allah, subhanahu wa ta’ala. Gheerah is the innate character in man which makes him not accept other men illicitly look at his wife, daughters, sisters and mother. Gheerah is what makes man safeguard relative women from strangers. The hijab fulfils and maintains this vital element in the family and the society as a whole. But the mixing of sexes and absence of hijab destroys the gheerah in men. And because the Prophet, sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam, told us, “A Muslim is the brother of the Muslim” Muslim men have gheerah for all Muslim women and do not accept for them what they do not accept for their own sisters.

Modern youth have lost their sense of gheerah (http://www.allaahuakbar.net/womens/reviving_our_sense_of_gheerah.htm)

[Basil al-Mamluk]

Jilbab might be a little too much. I have seen sisters in my area dress just fine in hijab and loose clothing without jilbab. I mean, there comes a point where the guys have to guard their gaze so we can't just lay it all on the sisters here.

To be honest: I am more focused on simply *finding* a wife at this point than getting all selective based on jilbab or not.

[Jihaan]

i dont mind just as long as she's peng like ya gemme

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
sorry thats too funny "ya gemme"
:rotfl:

[muslimma]

Niqaab, Eye Mesh, Gloves, Jilbab, and an Umbrella


lols :rotfl:

poor lass...:outta:

[Ibrahim70]

Niqaab, Eye Mesh, Gloves, Jilbab, and an Umbrella

An umbrella?

Oh I get it....................the Muslim Mary Poppins!! :p

[Hiking]

i dont mind just as long as she's peng like ya gemme

:rofl1:

how long is your beard BRO??

[Hiking]

She's definitely a sister (pink name - sisters section) albeit a confused one :confused:

[kzakir01]

What ever makes her happy as long as she is doing ibadaat to Allah :-)

[sajeda]

:salams:

i think this is a great topic and it is very interesting to see the brother's responses...

covering for a woman is fard

we are commanded by Allah to cover

[afsalim]

Oh here we go again....

My opinion is, it will be entirely her decision.

[Brother Noor]

HIJAB DEFINATELY

JILBAB FOR SURE..

NIQAAB SUBHANALLAH A BLESSING.. WOULD MAKE ME REALLLLY HAPPY..

UMBRELLA.. I DONT MIND, BUT ILL ONLY HOLD IT FOR HER SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE, :P

gloves and and all that, not that i mind, but i think thats going a bit to far, in my opinion.. but Allah hu alam

first three for sure..

[afsalim]

What's with the Umbrella?

[Anikaa]

There's too much threads like this; always asking people's opnions. Does it really matter, what they think?

How about letting the brothers know how their wives should dress:

Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The conditions of hijaab:

Firstly:

(It should cover all the body apart from whatever has been exempted).

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”

This aayah clearly states that it is obligatory to cover all of a woman’s beauty and adornments and not to display any part of that before non-mahram men (“strangers”) except for whatever appears unintentionally, in which case there will be no sin on them if they hasten to cover it up.

Al-Haafiz ibn Katheer said in his Tafseer:

This means that they should not display any part of their adornment to non-mahrams, apart from that which it is impossible to conceal. Ibn Mas’ood said: such as the cloak and robe, i.e., what the women of the Arabs used to wear, an outer garment which covered whatever the woman was wearing, except for whatever appeared from beneath the outer garment. There is no sin on a woman with regard to this because it is impossible to conceal it.

Secondly

(it should not be an adornment in and of itself).

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“… and not to show off their adornment…” [al-Noor 24:31]. The general meaning of this phrase includes the outer garment, because if it is decorated it will attract men’s attention to her. This is supported by the aayah in Soorat al-Ahzaab (interpretation of the meaning):

“And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance” [al-Ahzaab 33:33]. It is also supported by the hadeeth in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are three, do not ask me about them: a man who leaves the jamaa’ah, disobeys his leader and dies disobedient; a female or male slave who runs away then dies; and a woman whose husband is absent and left her with everything she needs, and after he left she made a wanton display of herself. Do not ask about them.”

(Narrated by al-Haakim, 1/119; Ahmad, 6/19; from the hadeeth of Faddaalah bint ‘Ubayd. Its isnaad is saheeh and it is in al-Adab al-Mufrad).

Thirdly:

(It should be thick and not transparent or “see-thru”)

- because it cannot cover properly otherwise. Transparent or see-thru clothing makes a woman more tempting and beautiful. Concerning this the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “During the last days of my ummah there will be women who are clothed but naked, with something on their heads like the humps of camels. Curse them, for they are cursed.” Another hadeeth adds: “They will not enter Paradise or even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be detected from such and such a distance.”

(Narrated by Muslim from the report of Abu Hurayrah).

Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) meant was women who wear clothes made of light fabric which describes and does not cover. They are clothed in name but naked in reality.

Transmitted by al-Suyooti in Tanweer al-Hawaalik, 3/103.

Fourthly:

(It should be loose, not tight so that it describes any part of the body).

The purpose of clothing is to prevent fitnah (temptation), and this can only be achieved if clothes are wide and loose. Tight clothes, even if they conceal the colour of the skin, still describe the size and shape of the body or part of it, and create a vivid image in the minds of men. The corruption or invitation to corruption that is inherent in that is quite obvious. So the clothes must be wide. Usaamah ibn Zayd said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave me a thick Egyptian garment that was one of the gifts given to him by Duhyat al-Kalbi, and I gave it to my wife to wear. He said, ‘Why do I not see you wearing that Egyptian garment?’ I said, ‘I gave it to my wife to wear.’ He said, ‘Tell her to wear a gown underneath it, for I am afraid that it may describe the size of her bones.’” (Narrated by al-Diyaa’ al-Maqdisi in al-Ahaadeeth al-Mukhtaarah, 1/442, and by Ahmad and al-Bayhaqi, with a hasan isnaad).

Fifthly:

(It should not be perfumed with bakhoor or fragrance)

There are many ahaadeeth which forbid women to wear perfume when they go out of their houses. We will quote here some of those which have saheeh isnaads:

Abu Moosa al-Ash’ari said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who puts on perfume then passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance, is an adulteress.”

Zaynab al-Thaqafiyyah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If any one of you (women) goes out to the mosque, let her not touch any perfume.”

Abu Hurayrah said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who has scented herself with bakhoor (incense), let her not attend ‘Ishaa’ prayers with us.”

Moosa ibn Yassaar said that a woman passed by Abu Hurayrah and her scent was overpowering. He said, “O female slave of al-Jabbaar, are you going to the mosque?” She said, “Yes,” He said, “And have you put on perfume because of that?” She said, “Yes.” He said, “Go back and wash yourself, for I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘If a woman comes out to the mosque and her fragrance is overpowering, Allaah will not accept any prayer from her until she goes home and washes herself.’”

These ahaadeeth are general in implication. Just as the prohibition covers perfume applied to the body, it also covers perfume applied to the clothes, especially in the third hadeeth, where bakhoor (incense) is mentioned, because incense is used specifically to perfume the clothes.

The reason for this prohibition is quite clear, which is that women’s fragrance may cause undue provocation of desires. The scholars also included other things under this heading of things to be avoided by women who want to go to the mosque, such as beautiful clothes, jewellery that can be seen, excessive adornments and mingling with men. See Fath al-Baari, 2/279.

Ibn Daqeeq al-‘Eed said:

This indicates that it is forbidden for a woman who wants to go to the mosque to wear perfume, because this causes provocation of men’s desires. This was reported by al-Manaawi in Fayd al-Qadeer, in the commentary on the first hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah quoted above.

Sixthly:

(It should not resemble the clothing of men)

It was reported in the saheeh ahaadeeth that a woman who imitates men in dress or in other ways is cursed. There follow some of the ahaadeeth that we know:

Abu Hurayrah said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the man who wears women’s clothes, and the woman who wears men’s clothes.”

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘They are not part of us, the women who imitate men and the men who imitate women.’”

Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed effeminate men and masculine women. He said, ‘Throw them out of your houses.’” He said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) expelled So and so, and ‘Umar expelled So and so.” According to another version: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed men who imitate women and women who imitate men.”

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There are three who will not enter Paradise and Allaah will not even look at them on the Day of Resurrection: one who disobeys his parents, a woman who imitates men, and the duyooth (cuckold, weak man who feels no jealousy over his womenfolk).”

Ibn Abi Maleekah – whose name was ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Ubayd-Allaah – said: “It was said to ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), ‘What if a woman wears (men’s) sandals?’ She said: ‘The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed women who act like men.’”

These ahaadeeth clearly indicate that it is forbidden for women to imitate men and vice versa, This usually includes dress and other matters, apart from the first hadeeth quoted above, which refers to dress only.

Abu Dawood said, in Masaa’il al-Imaam Ahmad (p. 261): “I heard Ahmad being asked about a man who dresses his slave woman in a tunic. He said, ‘Do not clothe her in men’s garments, do not make her look like a man.” Abu Dawood said: “I said to Ahmad, Can he give her bachelor sandals to wear? He said, No, unless she wears them to do wudoo’. I said, What about for beauty? He said, No. I said, Can he cut her hair short? He said, No.”

Seventhly:

(It should not resemble the dress of kaafir women).

It is stated in sharee’ah that Muslims, men and women alike, should not resemble or imitate the kuffaar with regard to worship, festivals or clothing that is specific to them. This is an important Islamic principle which nowadays, unfortunately, is neglected by many Muslims, even those who care about religion and calling others to Islam. This is due either to ignorance of their religion, or because they are following their own whims and desires, or because of deviation, combined with modern customs and imitation of kaafir Europe. This was one of the causes of the Muslims’ decline and weakness, which enabled the foreigners to overwhelm and colonize them. “…Verily, Allaah will not change the condition of a people as long as they do not change their state themselves …” [al-Ra’d 13:11 – interpretation of the meaning]. If only they knew.

It should be known that there is a great deal of saheeh evidence for these important rules in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and that the evidence in the Qur’aan is elaborated upon in the Sunnah, as is always the case.

Eighthly:

(It should not be a garment of fame and vanity).

Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever wears a garment of fame and vanity in this world, Allaah will clothe him in a garment of humiliation on the Day of Resurrection, then He will cause Fire to flame up around him.’”

(Hijaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, p. 54-67).

And Allaah knows best.

Hijaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, p. 54-67


http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=6991&ln=eng&txt=Correct%20Hijaab

[seven]

a tent :)

[JayC]

the problem is muslims dont understand what needs to be covered...
some say, no jilbab required... some say no hijab required, just sunnah. or just long dress up to knees.
some say, as long as she has a scarf around her neck and wears the clothes from our country, which is the requirement for them.

meanwhile hijab and abaya is fard. only debate is niqab.


same with sisters. not wanting a brother who has a beard... because a man must look like he fell out of a boyband.


1st condition of the shahada... ILM. may Allah increase us all in knowledge, and grant us the capacity to implement what we learn in our daily lives. ameen.

[Danniella]

My grandad use to have to horrible stubble of a beard. When i was a child he would grab me and give me a friendly kiss on the cheek.

Each time i would be left with a stubble rash. Since then i have been left traumatised by men with beards.

It just brings back painful memories...:rubeyes:

[LastFriday]

What's with the Umbrella?

New trend i'm starting.

My grandad use to have to horrible stubble of a beard. When i was a child he would grab me and give me a friendly kiss on the cheek.

Each time i would be left with a stubble rash. Since then i have been left traumatised by men with beards.

It just brings back painful memories...:rubeyes:

oh wow, what an excuse :p

[Danniella]

New trend i'm starting.



oh wow, what an excuse :p

It was said in jest... :up:

[aisha2007]

New trend i'm starting.



oh wow, what an excuse :p

I already wear niqab....now i have to go get an umbrella!!!
a womans life is suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch a test!!

[qwickmalik]

why would any husband want thier wife to advertise her beauty to the whole world! its truly beyond my understanding!

hmmm, .... u'll be surprised there are indeed some men do not like women who wear hijab. they prefer non-hijabis.

personally, once what needs to be covered is covered (within Allah's limits), i dont have a problem with that.

i wouldnt encourage my wife to wear the niqab though, but if she wants to, i wont stop her.

some advice for the brothers though: especially those living in the west/secular environments where hijabis are very few, guys often make the mistake of assuming that once a girl in such a society covers up, then she's pious and will be a good wife. YOU MIGHT BE HEADING FOR THE SHOCK OF YOUR LIFE. Dont want to describe specific cases here - might be gossiping

[PK Aali]

lol he can think what he wants am doing both scarf and jilbaab inshallah!!

[OBL]

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[muslimma]

An umbrella?

Oh I get it....................the Muslim Mary Poppins!! :p

:rotfl:

[sunrise]

Covering is fardh for women in Islam, so what is the point of asking such questions?

Any man who wants his wife to disobey her creator for his desires or thoughts, is wacko and not even worth thinking about thinking about thinking about marrying!

[nami]

the reason i am asking this is that i know a few wwho wouldnt like there wife to wear it.

I think these "brothers" need to start learning about the basics of islam.

[PK Aali]

innitttttttttt

[susu12092]

INTERESTING! :1popcorn:

[EarlyBird]

Covering is fardh for women in Islam, so what is the point of asking such questions?

Any man who wants his wife to disobey her creator for his desires or thoughts, is wacko and not even worth thinking about thinking about thinking about marrying!

:up:

[Lone Wolf]

Im not sure if a Jilbaab is enough, she could still move her arms about and guys might notice she has moving arms through the jilbaab.

I'd make sure she wore a straightjacket under the jilbaab and probably gag her under her veil in case she ever thought of expressing an opinion in public and embarassing me since women's opinions are rather embarassing :D

[Jilbabi]

Covering is fardh for women in Islam, so what is the point of asking such questions?

Any man who wants his wife to disobey her creator for his desires or thoughts, is wacko and not even worth thinking about thinking about thinking about marrying!

spot on sis, spot on!! :up:

and i find it highly offensive when our own muslim brothers start having a laugh about what a muslim woman should be wearing, no its not funny :rolleyes:

(im talking about the ones that think that muslim women 'dont reli HAVE to wear what they do') :torture:

becos if our OWN muslims are taking the mic, then whats left of evry1 else? :(

[Safiya]

Niqaab, Eye Mesh, Gloves, Jilbab, and an Umbrella

:rotfl:

HIJAB DEFINATELY

JILBAB FOR SURE..

NIQAAB SUBHANALLAH A BLESSING.. WOULD MAKE ME REALLLLY HAPPY..

UMBRELLA.. I DONT MIND, BUT ILL ONLY HOLD IT FOR HER SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE, :P

gloves and and all that, not that i mind, but i think thats going a bit to far, in my opinion.. but Allah hu alam

first three for sure..

That's nicely put. As for the conclusion? - Doesn't flow.

the problem is muslims dont understand what needs to be covered...
some say, no jilbab required... some say no hijab required, just sunnah. or just long dress up to knees.
some say, as long as she has a scarf around her neck and wears the clothes from our country, which is the requirement for them.

meanwhile hijab and abaya is fard. only debate is niqab.


same with sisters. not wanting a brother who has a beard... because a man must look like he fell out of a boyband.


1st condition of the shahada... ILM. may Allah increase us all in knowledge, and grant us the capacity to implement what we learn in our daily lives. ameen.

Exactly, who cares about opinions, it's been stated what is fardh - but I guess one can get an idea of the attitudes that exist. :up:

[tayfah-mansurah]

yeh she'll have to wear hijab when going out, or will be locked in the basement

assalamualayykum. this is a question for the brothers who are still to marry. the question is that
do you want your fuuture wife to wear a scarf/jubbo.
the reason i am asking this is that i know a few wwho wouldnt like there wife to wear it.
inshallah with this thread we can encourage the brothers and describe importance of hijab
ameen.
allah-fis.

[$HugoBoss$]

She has to wear hijab by choice and not by force.

[tayfah-mansurah]

why

She has to wear hijab by choice and not by force.

[hanifa]

I voted for "your comments."

the clothing that a woman wears is not what makes her the perfect wife:

What would you prefer:

a modest woman who

a) never leaves the house except by your permission
b) always puts the needs of the breadwinner before her own needs
c) gives you space to do your own thing at home
d) always has a clean set of clohes ready for you
e) always has a clean house and a meal waiting for you when you get home
f) does not demand worldly wealth - but squirrels away whatever you give her "for a rainy day"
g) always welcomes you home with a smile
h) tries to accomodate herself to your tastes
i) never refuses a request
j) fortifies you with cups of coffee/tea/cold drink even if you are concentrating on doing other things (than bearing her comany) while at home.
k) bears you company whenever you demonstrate the need
l) refuses to accept spending on superfluous worldly stuff in favor of giving the kids a good education
m) recites Quran (especially suratul baqara) in the home
n) encourages the kids to learn the Quran and salat rather than distractions
o) does not want network TV or a parabolic dish at home, but prefers to buy video/cd materials that we can control for family entertainment.

etc.

OR

A materialistic woman who likes to park her children in front of multimedia distractions in order to keep them under control, and dress them up in public, goes out when she needs to, but also wears the jilbaab, and niqab so men never see her body shape or face (except 'family')?

I think that an intelligent supportive and modest woman concerned with her duties as a role model for her children is far more important than her style of covering.

hanifa

[enchanted_rose]

Covering is fardh for women in Islam, so what is the point of asking such questions?

Any man who wants his wife to disobey her creator for his desires or thoughts, is wacko and not even worth thinking about thinking about thinking about marrying!

Very true sis, a Muslim man who acts like that is not even worthy of marrying a Muslim women. How could you want your wife to disobey the commands of Allah? :torture:

May Allah increase them in Iman.

[KhalisahdaGreat]

I voted for "your comments."

the clothing that a woman wears is not what makes her the perfect wife:

What would you prefer:

a modest woman who

a) never leaves the house except by your permission
b) always puts the needs of the breadwinner before her own needs
c) gives you space to do your own thing at home
d) always has a clean set of clohes ready for you
e) always has a clean house and a meal waiting for you when you get home
f) does not demand worldly wealth - but squirrels away whatever you give her "for a rainy day"
g) always welcomes you home with a smile
h) tries to accomodate herself to your tastes
i) never refuses a request
j) fortifies you with cups of coffee/tea/cold drink even if you are concentrating on doing other things (than bearing her comany) while at home.
k) bears you company whenever you demonstrate the need
l) refuses to accept spending on superfluous worldly stuff in favor of giving the kids a good education
m) recites Quran (especially suratul baqara) in the home
n) encourages the kids to learn the Quran and salat rather than distractions
o) does not want network TV or a parabolic dish at home, but prefers to buy video/cd materials that we can control for family entertainment.

etc.

OR

A materialistic woman who likes to park her children in front of multimedia distractions in order to keep them under control, and dress them up in public, goes out when she needs to, but also wears the jilbaab, and niqab so men never see her body shape or face (except 'family')?

I think that an intelligent supportive and modest woman concerned with her duties as a role model for her children is far more important than her style of covering.

hanifa

Amin bro! I agree 100% with this post. Wearing hijab should NOT be the litmus test of how good a Muslim a woman is.

[hanifa]

why

Actions are judged by intentions.

If the intention is to avoid punishment from mum, dad or husband (or bro or sis), or avoid criticism from whoever, then the validity of the action as a pious action raises its ugly head.

But if it is done to please Allah, halas! May Allah accept it from the niqabi/jalabi/khimari sister (whichever form of covering she believes is right or appropriate that produces the desired hijaab [screen]).

hanifa

[PiElle2]

the problem is muslims dont understand what needs to be covered...
some say, no jilbab required... some say no hijab required, just sunnah. or just long dress up to knees.
some say, as long as she has a scarf around her neck and wears the clothes from our country, which is the requirement for them.

meanwhile hijab and abaya is fard. only debate is niqab.


same with sisters. not wanting a brother who has a beard... because a man must look like he fell out of a boyband.


1st condition of the shahada... ILM. may Allah increase us all in knowledge, and grant us the capacity to implement what we learn in our daily lives. ameen.


abaya is fard....?

[enchanted_1984]

by ‘want’, do you mean ‘enforcing your will upon her’ or just ‘suggesting’?

[hanifa]

by ‘want’, do you mean ‘enforcing your will upon her’ or just ‘suggesting’?

See my previous post:

Actions are judged by intentions.

If the intention is to avoid punishment from mum, dad or husband (or bro or sis), or avoid criticism from whoever, then the validity of the action as a pious action raises its ugly head.

But if it is done to please Allah, halas! May Allah accept it from the niqabi/jalabi/khimari sister (whichever form of covering she believes is right or appropriate that produces the desired hijaab [screen]).


Hanifa

[Safiya]

I voted for "your comments."

the clothing that a woman wears is not what makes her the perfect wife:

What would you prefer:

a modest woman who

a) never leaves the house except by your permission
b) always puts the needs of the breadwinner before her own needs
c) gives you space to do your own thing at home
d) always has a clean set of clohes ready for you
e) always has a clean house and a meal waiting for you when you get home
f) does not demand worldly wealth - but squirrels away whatever you give her "for a rainy day"
g) always welcomes you home with a smile
h) tries to accomodate herself to your tastes
i) never refuses a request
j) fortifies you with cups of coffee/tea/cold drink even if you are concentrating on doing other things (than bearing her comany) while at home.
k) bears you company whenever you demonstrate the need
l) refuses to accept spending on superfluous worldly stuff in favor of giving the kids a good education
m) recites Quran (especially suratul baqara) in the home
n) encourages the kids to learn the Quran and salat rather than distractions
o) does not want network TV or a parabolic dish at home, but prefers to buy video/cd materials that we can control for family entertainment.

etc.

OR

A materialistic woman who likes to park her children in front of multimedia distractions in order to keep them under control, and dress them up in public, goes out when she needs to, but also wears the jilbaab, and niqab so men never see her body shape or face (except 'family')?

I think that an intelligent supportive and modest woman concerned with her duties as a role model for her children is far more important than her style of covering.

hanifa

Hmmm.

What does "modest" mean in terms of clothing?

It's as vague as someone saying they're "decent".

Masha-Allah for all points not in bold.

[AslanShamil1915]

Long as she covers the parts she is meant to, then i dont mind whatever type of ninja gear she wears.

[nadzz]

i think you'd probs find here all bros will say hijab so theres no point in this thread cas they r already educated here.

Asaalam,

I agree ;)

Wasalaam