You Vote-Islamic Idol 2008

[AbuMubarak]

We here at ummah.com have heard you loud and clear. Islamic Sharia aside, we will no longer stand as judges, nor will we judge by Quran and Sunnah. Its all about feelings, thoughts, wants, aspirations and desires.

If it feels good, lets go for it.

So today, we open up our poll to vote for the Islamic Idol 2008 (no, we are not going to use that archaic Islamic calendar, get real)

You vote and we will send our results to the lucky winner. And if he/she chooses you, you can spend three days and two nights at the Las Vegas nightclub of your choice (The land is not haram, and you dont HAVE to gamble)


OK, so lets open up the ballots and see who will be this years lucky winner of Islam's Idol

[Chained_Water]

:zzz: yer not funny bro, try again.
































:outta:

[AbuMubarak]

something about that name yusuf

[AbuMubarak]

Chained, dont you go poopoo'ing my poll

[MrOnline]

MrOnline for islamic idol 2008!!!

http://www.ummah.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=2&pictureid=1940

[bint]

lol it is funny.

I was gonna say sommat so crude about irshad manji. I should exit before I do.

Masalamah.

[MrOnline]

I should exit before I do.



Good idea. :up:

[Medievalist]

Bro you shouldnt have Ml Yusuf Estes on the list.

And how does it work? Do we vote for the biggest "islamic" popstar?

[AbuMubarak]

medievalist, it doesnt matter

whatever you FEEL like, i am not the judge

[Medievalist]

no - is the vote in favour of someone or a mick take outta them? im thinking its a mick take? in which case i know who gets ma vote. :rotfl:

[AbuMubarak]

this is a serious poll, we want to know who the people want to represent islam, we are NOT judging their appearances, nor their beards, or lack thereof, nor their deeds, nothing

we are not using quran and sunnah, we are just going by eloquence in their words, and if anyone accepts islam from them, then thats all that counts

[AbuMubarak]

even if they applauded bush as he was waging war against the muslims,,,,,,,,,,so what, which if YOU are perfect???

my personal favorite is irshad..........i think she is so cute

[Medievalist]

oooopsss. My bad. I voted for COMPLETELY the wrong candidate. If you can change my vote to Ml Yusuf Estes. They are amazing in my opinion.

Some people I know who tend not to listen to religious scholars much because he finds a lot hypocritical actually enjoys listening to Ml Yusuf Estes. He has mashaALLAH a really beautiful approach, sincere and kind and genuine. For definite they get my vote!

[AbuMubarak]

Bro you shouldnt have Ml Yusuf Estes on the list.

And how does it work? Do we vote for the biggest "islamic" popstar?

yeah, we removed him, too radical, too fundamentalist, too much on the sunnah

we only want people who MOVE the masses regardless of quran and sunnah

[Chained_Water]

my personal favorite is irshad..........i think she is so cute

:nono: ..I didn't think you'd be one to find androgynous lesbians cute.

In any case, it's no statement to be making on here :torture:

[AbuMubarak]

chained, dont you dare JUDGE me, i can do what i please, and you cant judge me

[Medievalist]

yeah, we removed him, too radical, too fundamentalist, too much on the sunnah

we only want people who MOVE the masses regardless of quran and sunnah

Oh you ARE being funny. Nice one bro. leave my vote on what it was on den. :p

[Chained_Water]

chained, dont you dare JUDGE me, i can do what i please, and you cant judge me
AbuMubarak no make it good poll :nono:

[Medievalist]

:nono: ..I didn't think you'd be one to find androgynous lesbians cute.

In any case, it's no statement to be making on here :torture:

:rotfl: :rotfl:

that were raaat funnay.

[AbuMubarak]

how can you call her a lesbian, do you KNOW for a fact? have you opened her heart? lesbians are people too

they all deserve our love, let ALLAH judge her, NOT YOU

[Kubs]

Am I the only one confused here? :scratch:

[AbuMubarak]

confusion is good, keep the masses confused, they dont know which way to go

dont worry, be happy

[Chained_Water]

yeah, we removed him, too radical, too fundamentalist, too much on the sunnah

we only want people who MOVE the masses regardless of quran and sunnah
So are you trying to say everyone on the list does not follow Quran and sunnah.. because then you are making clear slander.. and esp when it's about scholars like Shaykh Hamza who blatantly do follow the Quran and sunnah.. then you should fear Allah in regards to mocking other Muslims like thisand inviting others to mock them.

Amr Khaled, I haven't seen him but I do know that he does a LOT of good work, in Birmingham there is a Muslim anti-drugs charity that is run by him, and I know a sister who works there.. it does GOOD work and helps so many young Muslims and their families who are in desperate situations.. and educates young Muslims.. it's an amazing intiative and the kind of thing Muslims should be at the forefront of.. also he has some really good resources and articles on Islam on his website and yes based on Quran and sunnah.. so what I know of him is that he does a LOT of good work and has effected a LOT of Muslims in a massive way and brought them closer to Islam.

Native Deen.. you might not like them 'cuz they don't do duff only stuff, they use percussion.. which is ONE thing about them.. and not the whole picture, on the other hand they obviously do a lot of good work with the youth and bring imporant issues to the forefront of their minds and again have reached out to many people and I'm sure made them rethink their lifestyle and come closer to Islam.

You have NO RIGHT to mock these people, it's very cowardly low and juvenile and not something someone of your age or position on this forum should be doing.

Very disappointed :(

[Kubs]

I'm spoilt for choice :outta: :D

[Chained_Water]

how can you call her a lesbian, do you KNOW for a fact? have you opened her heart? lesbians are people too

they all deserve our love, let ALLAH judge her, NOT YOU
I'm not judging her 'cuz I don't need to, Allah will judge her and then she we'll see how far her "trouble with islam" really goes.. but she is openly a lesbian and does not hide that, she proclaims it loud and clear for all.. it's not an accusation it's a fact she declares via the media.

[Medievalist]

Just leave a bro to make a thread in peace man. Why y'all ganging up on him for?

Personally I think its a very gud thread, very funny and I understand entirely why its made and why AM is being like that. We cant judge him, leave ALLAH to judge, we leave him alone.

Abu Mubarak - bro nice 1.

[Eemaan]

abu m you lost the plot, go take yer pills and lie down. flippin loon :rubeyes:

[AbuMubarak]

So are you trying to say everyone on the list does not follow Quran and sunnah.. because then you are making clear slander.. and esp when it's about scholars like Shaykh Hamza who blatantly do follow the Quran and sunnah.. then you should fear Allah in regards to mocking other Muslims like thisand inviting others to mock them.

Amr Khaled, I haven't seen him but I do know that he does a LOT of good work, in Birmingham there is a Muslim anti-drugs charity that is run by him, and I know a sister who works there.. it does GOOD work and helps so many young Muslims and their families who are in desperate situations.. and educates young Muslims.. it's an amazing intiative and the kind of thing Muslims should be at the forefront of.. also he has some really good resources and articles on Islam on his website and yes based on Quran and sunnah.. so what I know of him is that he does a LOT of good work and has effected a LOT of Muslims in a massive way and brought them closer to Islam.

Native Deen.. you might not like them 'cuz they don't do duff only stuff, they use percussion.. which is ONE thing about them.. and not the whole picture, on the other hand they obviously do a lot of good work with the youth and bring imporant issues to the forefront of their minds and again have reached out to many people and I'm sure made them rethink their lifestyle and come closer to Islam.

You have NO RIGHT to mock these people, it's very cowardly low and juvenile and not something someone of your age or position on this forum should be doing.

Very disappointed :(
firstly i havent said who follows quran and sunnah and who doesnt, YOU have

i am only picking those who are most famous and have a following of some type

man o man, for you to be in the DO NOT JUDGE CROWD, you are sure slinging a lot of mud in my direction

touchy touchy, thats two days straight chained, methinks you are getting a bit wound up

just pick and idol, any idol, or write in your choice

[AbuMubarak]

abu m you lost the plot, go take yer pills and lie down. flippin loon :rubeyes:namecalling?
from eemaan?

o well

[bint]

CW raises some good points.

[AbuMubarak]

good points only if you accept her suppositions

which are all incorrect

but hey, if it sounds good, lets go for it

[Astraeus]

My write in vote is for: Wa A3edoo 2

I really enjoy listening to their Nasheeds.

[AbuMubarak]

it's very cowardly low and juvenile and not something someone of your age or position on this forum should be doing.

Very disappointed :(you and eemaan are really showing out today

i am trying to think, can we get any lower?

maybe a food fight?

[MrOnline]

This thread should be closed. It's blatant that a certain "MrOnline" is leading the race to be Islamic Idol 2008. :D

[Eemaan]

i think yer on halaal crack or summat thats all abu m. go fer it,

khair, you dont like constructive criticism.

[AbuMubarak]

mr online, if you win, you two can have a 3day two night excursion in luxurious las vegas

and remember, what happens in vegas, STAYS in vegas

[bint]

cut the sarcasm really.

She DOES raise some good points, wether we believe or not. At least I am to know that I am not judging so easily.

[Astraeus]

This thread should be closed. It's blatant that a certain "MrOnline" is leading the race to be Islamic Idol 2008. :D
Just then, Mr. Online's mom woke him up for breakfast...thus the dream was over. ;) :D

[AbuMubarak]

i think yer on halaal crack or summat thats all abu m. go fer it,

khair, you dont like constructive criticism.

referring to me as a flippin loon is constructive criticism? indeed it is

lowly and cowardly are compliments?

up is down and down is up

[Eemaan]

referring to me as a flippin loon is constructive criticism? indeed it is

lowly and cowardly are compliments?

up is down and down is up

im sorry for calling you a flippin loon :(

just close the thread.

[MrOnline]

and remember, what happens in vegas, STAYS in vegas

Oh it will. I can assure you... :p

[AbuMubarak]

cut the sarcasm really.

She DOES raise some good points, wether we believe or not. At least I am to know that I am not judging so easily.

no sarcasm, have not judged any of these people in terms of their deen, i said that amr khaled is a fasiq because he shaves his beard, the others, i have not made a comment on

chained has said that i deem them to be less than, which only chained has said, but you go ahead and take her words to be mine, thats your choice, whether its wrong or right, its still your choice

[MrOnline]

Just then, Mr. Online's mom woke him up for breakfast...thus the dream was over. ;) :D

How did you guess? :rubeyes:

Oh well, that's that then. :(

[Phoenix CG]

Why aren't you in that list AbuM? I would have voted for you ;)

[Kubs]

Can we vote for two people or more? I'm spoilt for choice. :o :outta: :rolleyes:

[bint]

I guess I am not in your head to actually go figure spot on what you are saying.

I always get confused by your posts.

[Fais]

Lets all just take a deep breath and listen to some Quran .. Yes?

We all agree?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_T4m2iFypw&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vLZoq6Zmk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vLZoq6Zmk)

http://www.dhikrullah.com/quran/jibreen.html

[AbuMubarak]

I guess I am not in your head to actually go figure spot on what you are saying.

I always get confused by your posts.
then you shouldnt comment, criticize or condemn

i never said what she said i said, but you felt pretty comfortable to agree with what she said i didnt say

[AbuMubarak]

Lets all just take a deep breath and listen to some Quran .. Yes?

We all agree?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_T4m2iFypw&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vLZoq6Zmk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vLZoq6Zmk)

http://www.dhikrullah.com/quran/jibreen.htmli have tablawi playing, the mans voice is wonderful, but another shaver

whats with arabs shaving? maybe there is something in the arabic that says its permissible, lets ask saudi b'rince

[Chained_Water]

firstly i havent said who follows quran and sunnah and who doesnt, YOU have

i am only picking those who are most famous and have a following of some type

man o man, for you to be in the DO NOT JUDGE CROWD, you are sure slinging a lot of mud in my direction

touchy touchy, thats two days straight chained, methinks you are getting a bit wound up

just pick and idol, any idol, or write in your choice

You blatantly implied it by saying Yusuf Estes follows quran and sunnah so lets take him off the list.. by saying and doing that you clearly imply that the others you left on the list don't and by including scholars like Shaykh Hamza, who is more qualified and learned that Yusuf Estes btw, on the same list with the likes of Salman Rushdie who is an open enemy to Islam and Irshad Manji who clearly has an unislamic agenda you are insulting these other people who do good work for Islam.

You should show them some respect.. and maybe follow their example.

When you have done what they have done and have the standing to be able to raise a finger at them, then maybe you'll be worth lending an ear to and you can speak to them direct.

And no I'm not in a bad mood or anything.. far from it, I'm just being candid with you because I can say that to you and you'll still be big bro, whereas half the people on this forum seem to be just stroking your ego most of the time.

You deserve a :torture:

[Kubs]

When you have done what they have done and have the standing to be able to raise a finger at them, then maybe you'll be worth lending an ear to and you can speak to them direct.

:up:

[Astraeus]

You blatantly implied it by saying Yusuf Estes follows quran and sunnah so lets take him off the list.. by saying and doing that you clearly imply that the others you left on the list don't and by including scholars like Shaykh Hamza, who is more qualified and learned that Yusuf Estes btw, on the same list with the likes of Salman Rushdie who is an open enemy to Islam and Irshad Manji who clearly has an unislamic agenda you are insulting these other people who do good work for Islam.

You should show them some respect.. and maybe follow their example.
Sister, Yusuf Estes is not on the list, Yusuf Islam is...you know Cat Stevens.

[AbuMubarak]

i am supposed to close a thread because you and chained decided to get into a namecalling match?

indeed not

i want to see who ummah.com votes as islamic idol 2008, inquiring minds want to know

[AbuMubarak]

You blatantly implied it by saying Yusuf Estes follows quran and sunnah so lets take him off the list.. by saying and doing that you clearly imply that the others you left on the list don't and by including scholars like Shaykh Hamza, who is more qualified and learned that Yusuf Estes btw, on the same list with the likes of Salman Rushdie who is an open enemy to Islam and Irshad Manji who clearly has an unislamic agenda you are insulting these other people who do good work for Islam.

You should show them some respect.. and maybe follow their example.

When you have done what they have done and have the standing to be able to raise a finger at them, then maybe you'll be worth lending an ear to and you can speak to them direct.

And no I'm not in a bad mood or anything.. far from it, I'm just being candid with you because I can say that to you and you'll still be big bro, whereas half the people on this forum seem to be just stroking your ego most of the time.

You deserve a :torture:contrary to what sheikha chaineda says, i am not implying anyone is not muslim, or not anything

i took sheikh estes off the list because he is very serious about his islam and he does NOT have a cult following, like hamza yusuf has

nor am i judging who is smarter in islam (of course, we could use quran and sunnah, but lets not muddy the waters)

the only reason i had yusuf estes there was because his name started with yusuf, like a few of the others

we could battle all day long on hamza and the rest of them, but sheikh estes followers dont fall into the same crowd. no one debates the islam of sheikh estes

whether you agree or disagree with hamza is not the issue, the man is a person of controversy within the islamic world, thus, he earned a place on this list

[Chained_Water]

Sister, Yusuf Estes is not on the list, Yusuf Islam is...you know Cat Stevens.
Read first page.. he was on the list.. then AbuM decided he's too much on the sunnah and removed him from the list.. thereby implying what about the others he left on it?

Anyway I've said what I had to say.. it's on others if they want to partake in this mockery.

[AbuMubarak]

I'm just being candid with you because I can say that to you and you'll still be big bro, whereas half the people on this forum seem to be just stroking your ego most of the time.

let it be known, i dont need anyone at ummah.com to stroke my ego, i have a large family, they do it well enough

so if you are stroking my ego, please stop, you are making chained jealous

[AbuMubarak]

Read first page.. he was on the list.. then AbuM decided he's too much on the sunnah and removed him from the list.. thereby implying what about the others he left on it?

Anyway I've said what I had to say.. it's on others if they want to partake in this mockery.
no one forced or asked you to comment

you stick your foot into stuff, then complain when it gets hot

[Omar Mukhtar]

none of them.

[Phoenix CG]

how come you're still a moderator?

[AbuMubarak]

standing in postitions of authority and notoriety are never encouraged in islam, contrary to what pop culture has taught you

because amr khaled or hamza have people who follow them, regardless of what quran and sunnah say does not make them correct or better than anyone else

because on the day of judgment, they will run from their followers, as our Prophet has taught us, and his companions avoided positions of notoriety

so you may think they are this top dog, all notoriety does is it feeds the ego, and puts you on the spotlight, and gives you much more to answer on the day of judgment

so whatever they have or have not done, i do not want to trade places, nor am i envious of their position, i know not what they have done or not done and their Lord will judge them accordingly to what Allah knows of them

[AbuMubarak]

how come you're still a moderator?
because people love stroking my ego and calling me names

[AbuMubarak]

how come you're still a moderator?if you have a problem with me being a moderator, you have two choices, no three

one, you can petition the administration to remove me
two, you can leave ummah.com and avoid my moderating
three, you can shut up and just deal with one more thing in life that you have no control over

[Phoenix CG]

or 4, watch and laugh at you make a fool of yourself.

[Fais]

we could battle all day long on hamza and the rest of them, but sheikh estes followers dont fall into the same crowd. no one debates the islam of sheikh estes

whether you agree or disagree with hamza is not the issue, the man is a person of controversy within the islamic world, thus, he earned a place on this list

Brother the same can be said for Ibn Taymiyyah (Ra) then. He's a controversial in the Islamic world.

When comparing him to say someone like .. Imam Nawawi (Ra) .. Who everyone accepts.

Does that mean we should stop reading or studying Ibn Taymiyyah's (Ra) books or stop taking anything from him since hes a controversial figure in the Islamic world? Of course not.

Now lets listen to some Quran :coolbro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz6MwXUJqLc&feature=related

[AbuMubarak]

or 4, watch and laugh at you make a fool of yourself.

that is not a decision, but making you nothing more than a whiney spectator

if you see something you dislike, you dont sit and watch, get up off your rump and do something about it, if you can

and i have given you three viable choices

sitting back and laughing is not a choice to someone who wants to claim to be smarter than the fool

[AbuMubarak]

Brother the same can be said for Ibn Taymiyyah (Ra) then. He's a controversial in the Islamic world.

When comparing him to say someone like .. Imam Nawawi (Ra) .. Who everyone accepts.

Does that mean we should stop reading or studying Ibn Taymiyyah's (Ra) books or stop taking anything from him since hes a controversial figure in the Islamic world? Of course not.

Now lets listen to some Quran :coolbro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz6MwXUJqLc&feature=relatedakhi, you cant go to vegas with ibn taymiya

[Fais]

akhi, you cant go to vegas with ibn taymiya

:eek: .. Why not :(

[AbuMubarak]

why is it the "dont judge the fasiq" crowd is also the most ill-mannered and quick to revert into name-calling?

[AbuMubarak]

:eek: .. Why not :(
the brother is not amongst us

[Umm_Hanzalah]

I thought this thread was funny actually......:o

[AbuMubarak]

it was, sis, till some of the modernists who dont want to judge according to islam, want to get into name calling

[`asiya]

Brother the same can be said for Ibn Taymiyyah (Ra) then. He's a controversial in the Islamic world.

When comparing him to say someone like .. Imam Nawawi (Ra) .. Who everyone accepts.

Does that mean we should stop reading or studying Ibn Taymiyyah's (Ra) books or stop taking anything from him since hes a controversial figure in the Islamic world? Of course not.

Now lets listen to some Quran :coolbro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz6MwXUJqLc&feature=related

shaikh al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah is controversial in the Islamic world ?!! :smack: according to who ? only the sufis who he put firmly in their place and whose slander and batil led to his imprisonment, la howla wala qawta illah billah!

[Fais]

shaikh al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah is controversial in the Islamic world ?!! :smack: according to who ? only the sufis who he put firmly in their place and whose slander and batil led to his imprisonment, la howla wala qawta illah billah!

... Whether you like it ... or not. He is. Some people think he is out of the fold of Ahl al-Sunnah. You telling me he's not a controversial figure?

Some of his opinions he went against the Mainstream opinion of the Ahl al-Sunnah.

Dont get me wrong im not saying hes Bad or wrong or whatever. I have respect for him Just like any other scholar. My point is .. Because hes controversial (IM NOT SAYINGS HE's BAD) ... Should we stop taking from him?

Im saying no we shouldn't stop.

[AbuMubarak]

who said anything about NOT taking from anyone?

[`asiya]

... Whether you like it ... or not. He is. Some people think he is out of the fold of Ahl al-Sunnah. You telling me he's not a controversial figure?

Some of his opinions he went against the Mainstream opinion of the Ahl al-Sunnah.

Dont get me wrong im not saying hes Bad or wrong or whatever. I have respect for him Just like any other scholar. My point is .. Because hes controversial (IM NOT SAYINGS HE's BAD) ... Should we stop taking from him?

Im saying no we shouldn't stop.

"some people" ? only the people of biddah say that and who cares what they say.

[Phoenix CG]

that is not a decision, but making you nothing more than a whiney spectator

if you see something you dislike, you dont sit and watch, get up off your rump and do something about it, if you can

and i have given you three viable choices

sitting back and laughing is not a choice to someone who wants to claim to be smarter than the fool

Actually it is a choice, as you I have a choice to watch you, dig yourself a hole. Just wondering, do you have any higher education? honest question.

[`asiya]

Actually it is a choice, as you I have a choice to watch you, dig yourself a hole. Just wondering, do you have any higher education? honest question.

prohet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam couldnt read or write he didnt have a phd or a masters degree, that didnt make him any less qualified to speak the haq akhi..

[Phoenix CG]

ps...I have put in a complaint against this particular moderator. Hopefully the rest of the moderating team see it fit that they deal with this justly.

Asiya, do you tihnk he is speaking the truth right now, he is obviously making fun of particular scholars. That is not the haq.

[777]

the terms "Islamic idol" makes no sense whatsoever. An idol is something that idolators worship. How can you say islamic idol and then put up names for pple to vote as their idols??????? Frankly, I am very shocked by this. Asteghfurallah al adheem. :mad::asta:

[AbuMubarak]

what scholars am i mocking?

i posted people who have a cult following, thats mocking?

people should stop following people like a bunch of sheep and look and judge by quran and sunnah

[AbuMubarak]

the terms "Islamic idol" makes no sense whatsoever. An idol is something that idolators worship. How can you say islamic idol and then put up names for pple to vote as their idols??????? Frankly, I am very shocked by this. Asteghfurallah al adheem. :mad::asta:not as shocked by some of the unsupported responses i read every day on this forum

people will say and do and believe and support the most unislamic people doing the most unislamic things

shocking, isnt it? welcome to the world we live in

[Fais]

"some people" ? only the people of biddah say that and who cares what they say.

I would take that back if i was you ... Or you'd be calling Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Hajar Haytami, Ibn Hajar Asqalani, Subki and others "people of biddah"

[Medievalist]

whereas half the people on this forum seem to be just stroking your ego most of the time

I hope Im not included in that half. In this instance I agree with and understand Abu Mubarak's point - hence my comments.

let it be known, i dont need anyone at ummah.com to stroke my ego, i have a large family, they do it well enough

so if you are stroking my ego, please stop, you are making chained jealous

lol.

[777]

not as shocked by some of the unsupported responses i read every day on this forum

people will say and do and believe and support the most unislamic people doing the most unislamic things

shocking, isnt it? welcome to the world we live in


I understand that you are trying to make a point, but you are unjustified in putting up names and asking Muslims to vote for their favorite "idol". That is just wrong.

[AbuMubarak]

so basically, the only person everyone has a beef with is hamza yusuf?

aint that funny.................and because his name is there, abu mubarak is INSULTING SCHOLARS?

give me a break

[AbuMubarak]

I understand that you are trying to make a point, but you are unjustified in putting up names and asking Muslims to vote for their favorite "idol". That is just wrong.

if you study the meaning of the term, tawghoot, you will see that muslims idolize many people, sadly

we dont care what quran and sunnah say, we care only what we feel, and if someone brings up quran and sunnah, YOU ARE JUDGING

shaved beards, befriending and applauding the kuffar, a host of other issues dont matter, its all how we feel

or better yet, if they have notoriety, then whatever they do is meaningless and you cant question them, because you are not as famous as they are..........where is this thought in islam?

[your sister]

You put "islam" and "idol" - two opposite words in one sentence??? :rubeyes:
Do u know in fact what does your question mean? I'll tell u - SHIRK
That's not the right words about it

[AbuMubarak]

i know exactly what i typed and what it means

[Medievalist]

He has been actually very clever in using that term. They are words that are natural enemies, islam and idol - yet some people have set up some of the creation as idols in challenge to the religion. They have diverted their attention from ALLAH to the creation and made these into idols which are unworthy of the obedience and excessive veneration that is showered on them.

[bint]

im with u pheonix. He can name call and be rude to others but he cant accept it when someone else does the same. then he resorts to calling people modernists.

Muhammad SAW was always soft in his manners and speech.

[AbuMubarak]

I understand that you are trying to make a point, but you are unjustified in putting up names and asking Muslims to vote for their favorite "idol". That is just wrong.
muslims vote for kafirs, shirk
muslims support nationalism, shirk
muslims idolize famous speakers, shirk

so lets stop playing games, lets vote for an islamic idol, we like to mimic the kuffar in as many ways as possible, we dress like them, we talk like them, we adopt their ideologies, aspirations and goals

we even let them kill our brothers and sisters and we still pledge allegiance to them

so like i said, vote for your islamic idol, who cares how much he displays obedience to Allah and His Messenger, if we like him, thats all that matters

[AbuMubarak]

im with u pheonix. He can name call and be rude to others but he cant accept it when someone else does the same. then he resorts to calling people modernists.

Muhammad SAW was always soft in his manners and speech.

excuse me sis, people have been calling me names all in this thread, not one person has been banned, infracted or anything, so please stop with the twisting of things, i can dish it, i can take it

no sweat off my brow

[bint]

prohet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam couldnt read or write he didnt have a phd or a masters degree, that didnt make him any less qualified to speak the haq akhi..
what gives him the right to be rude to others? thats just shallow.

[AbuMubarak]

a modernist is one who twists and accepts distortions within islam, period

and we have a bunch of them here at ummah.com, and in the ummah in general

who did you vote for?

[THE PATH 2]

I VOTE ...

ABU MUBARAK:up:

[bint]

excuse me sis, people have been calling me names all in this thread, not one person has been banned, infracted or anything, so please stop with the twisting of things, i can dish it, i can take it

no sweat off my brow


so basically if someone calls you names..then as a mod you give it bac right? and then at the same times, those who address you with full respect you manage to bring them down. well done just well done. if its no sweat then why get wound up so easily and tarnish everyone with the same brush? no need to be so abrupt and rude.

[AbuMubarak]

path, i must admit, i didnt expect anything but condemnation from you too

but the day is young

[THE PATH 2]

my personal favorite is irshad..........i think she is so cute

:asta:

[AbuMubarak]

so basically if someone calls you names..then as a mod you give it bac right? and then at the same times, those who address you with full respect you manage to bring them down. well done just well done. if its no sweat then why get wound up so easily and tarnish everyone with the same brush? no need to be so abrupt and rude.
who did i call a name? who did i bring down?

if you support a fasiq or one who aligns himself with the kuffar, what is that to you? your brother in islam?

[Medievalist]

:smack:

[AbuMubarak]

:asta:
you do have a point there, path

she isnt THAT cute

but like i said, i knew the condemnation was coming, and it didnt take you long

[Reema]

Abu Mubarak, dont you have anything better or something more constructive to do with your time than sit and take the p*iss out of people because you feel like it?

You may think your funny and amusing but the last laugh and joke is on you, nobody else.

[777]

I honestly think this thread should be closed. Just cuz Muslims are retarted doesn't mean we should continue and help them along with their retartedness. This is wrong. May Allah swt forgive you.:aku_astaghfirullah:

[AbuMubarak]

you and scorpion have this ability to tell mods when a thread should be closed

if you dont like the thread, do like i do, DONT CLICK IT

that is so simple and takes absolutely no energy

[AbuMubarak]

Abu Mubarak, dont you have anything better or something more constructive to do with your time than sit and take the p*iss out of people because you feel like it?

You may think your funny and amusing but the last laugh and joke is on you, nobody else.reema

sorry i didnt find something unislamic for you to contribute to

maybe i will bump up one of your threads for you to play in

[Reema]

The only person contributing to something unislamic is you and your introduction of this lousy, ill mannered and pointless thread.

You claim to follow the sunnah and Quran strictly yet you can not even follow some of its basic tenets.

As I said the last laugh and joke is on you.

[AbuMubarak]

and you still click on and read and comment on this thread you find so distasteful

yeah, the joke is on ME

[THE PATH 2]

The only person contributing to something unislamic is you and your introduction of this lousy, ill mannered and pointless thread.

You claim to follow the sunnah and Quran strictly yet you can not even follow some of its basic tenets.

As I said the last laugh and joke is on you.

AGREE

HE SHOULD BE THE WINNER OF THE POLL:up:

[Reema]

and you still click on and read and comment on this thread you find so distasteful

yeah, the joke is on ME

If you dont find this thread and the direction its taking distasteful, then I really feel nothing but pity for you.

[AbuMubarak]

i bumped up three of your islamic threads

one is MY CAT

another, HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU SPEND ON THE PHONE

the third, WHAT HAVE YOU BOUGHT FROM A SECOND HAND SHOP

reema, surely you need to play in your islamic threads, and stop commenting on a thread you find so distasteful

i dont try to post in your threads, the topics are way over my head, i dont make rude comments about the depth of knowledge contained in your threads, why do you feel the need to comment in this one?

[Kubs]

'........he who believes in Allah and the Last Day speaks good or remains silent.’

Bukhari, Adab 31, 85; Muslim, Iman 74, 75.

[Medievalist]

Look people. Some might disagree with what Abu Mubarak is doing - thats fine. We dont have to agree with each other on every single thing. But just as perhaps according to some Abu Mubarak has indirectly or directly insulted people - some people have also replied with comments that really have done the same thing cept they targetted to Abu Mubarak.

If we wanna cuss AM for cussing others, then really we in the same boat. So doesnt really make sense to moi.

I agree the thread isnt really going anywhere - it had potential but thats been sapped with bickering. **roll eyes**

[AbuMubarak]

akhi, that happens when you pick on people's idols


they get all in a huff

[MMS]

danke guys, ya'll made me feel mature again :D

[AbuMubarak]

med, isnt that kabbani getting his feet kissed in your youtube signature?

[-Yassar]

What is the point of this thread?

[Medievalist]

i dunno. i get confused between kabbani and haqqani. i aint a big follower so dont really know them - ie dont recognise them too easily.

btw I dont think there's anything wrong in kissing a persons feet so long as its done within limits. Sahaabah Karaam would kiss the hands and feet of Nabi :saw:

[Fais]

What is the point of this thread?

You could get to go to Vegas :hidban:

[bint]

no point. some ppl have this illusion that they are bang on right.

[AbuMubarak]

all of the people in this pole are "cult-like" figures, where their followers follow them, regardless of what is said in quran and sunnah

i could have added some of the salafi saudi sheikhs too, it doesnt matter the names, what matters is that muslims have to stop IDOLIZING people

if ANY scholar publically displays disobedience to Allah and His Messenger, then he is to be held accountable

whether those are saudi sheikhs teaching muslims to deify the saudi kingdom, or cali sheikhs kissing up to bush, or evangelistic sheikhs who show its ok to shave, or any other sheikh

we have no priesthood in islam, and as illustrated by the companions when taking baya to both umar, and abu bakr, if you go astray, we will hold you accountable

if there was any mockery, it was on the ummah, not the individuals

[bint]

who did i call a name? who did i bring down?

if you support a fasiq or one who aligns himself with the kuffar, what is that to you? your brother in islam?


lol you are not even aware of what you write..exactly what are you reading and writing?

re to your sec paragraph. theres something totallly wrong with you.

on that note i shall not interact on this thread anymore. Too much beating round the bush.

Salam.

[Medievalist]

no point. some ppl have this illusion that they are bang on right.

tbh we all suffer from that illusion to some extent. :)

[AbuMubarak]

whats interesting is that whenever i see a thread i disagree with, i just dont click it