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Kubs
05-04-08, 01:42 PM
Subhanallah I'm so angry...I need to let off some steam.

My first ever fight with 4 racist non muslims. I've never been so angry in my entire life.

I need to calm down. Argh!

Omar Mukhtar
05-04-08, 01:44 PM
what happened? did you knock her teeth out.

Kubs
05-04-08, 01:44 PM
what happened? did you knock her teeth out.

Almost :o

urban_rose
05-04-08, 01:44 PM
what happened, sis? are you okay?? :(

Kubs
05-04-08, 01:45 PM
what happened, sis? are you okay?? :(

Just a little traumatized....wow...4 giant women...against.... me. Who would've thought! :eek3:

Omar Mukhtar
05-04-08, 01:46 PM
she said something about your hijaab, you got ****ed off, said something back, than you kicked off. am i right.?

Kubs
05-04-08, 01:47 PM
she said something about your hijaab, you got ****ed off, said something back, than you kicked off. am i right.?

If only it was that. They criticised my religion......then it all went crazy.

I'll explain it later Inshallah.

Joha
05-04-08, 01:50 PM
:rubeyes::rubeyes:

You got into a fight with some chavs? Not worth the effort sis...

Not hurt are you?

Kubs
05-04-08, 01:51 PM
:rubeyes::rubeyes:

You got into a fight with some chavs? Not worth the effort sis...

Not hurt are you?

I am hurt but that's not important. I'm just angry right now.

I've never been in a fight so subhanallah this was suprising.

Omar Mukhtar
05-04-08, 01:54 PM
were you on your own, or did ya have some back up 4 against 1 man, they must've done some serious damage. hope you gave them a good beating too.

Kubs
05-04-08, 01:56 PM
were you on your own, or did ya have some back up 4 against 1 man, they must've done some serious damage. hope you gave them a good beating too.

Nah I didn't have any backup. 4 of them against me. They even threatened to call others to finish me off.

Oh well... :eek3:

Joha
05-04-08, 01:58 PM
I am hurt but that's not important. I'm just angry right now.


Oh no, well Masha Allah for sticking up for your self, and for Islam!

Hope you didn't get hurt too badly, and gave 'em a good hiding they won't forget :p

(Although, being serious for a moment, if you're in a situation like that again - particularly in London, just walk away - or carry a pepper or stink spray - less messy :up:)

Omar Mukhtar
05-04-08, 01:58 PM
:smack: why were you on your own. always have someone wid you.

weren't there any other Muslims around to come to your help.?

Baybars
05-04-08, 01:58 PM
I'm sorry that you're hurt. I hope it's not bad. Any one of them wouldn't have said a thing if they were alone. I'm assuming you're in England, in which case bigotry in numbers is a typical cowardly English trait. I bet you are raging huh? Don't be too traumatized though, they aren't worth the stress. Did you call the police?

Kal-El
05-04-08, 01:59 PM
Describe in detail what happened. You'll feel better.

Kubs
05-04-08, 02:00 PM
Oh no, well Masha Allah for sticking up for your self, and for Islam!

Hope you didn't get hurt too badly, and gave 'em a good hiding they won't forget :p

(Although, being serious for a moment, if you're in a situation like that again - particularly in London, just walk away - or carry a pepper or stink spray - less messy :up:)

Because I've never been in a situation like that...I didn't know how to react. They just kept swearing and using slang words...I didn't understand half of what was said :o

I tried walking away but subhanallah it's hard. I couldn't do it...otherwise I'd feel like a coward.

Kubs
05-04-08, 02:01 PM
I'm sorry that you're hurt. I hope it's not bad. Any one of them wouldn't have said a thing if they were alone. I'm assuming you're in England, in which case bigotry in numbers is a typical cowardly English trait. I bet you are raging huh? Don't be too traumatized though, they aren't worth the stress. DId you call the police?

I am really angry which is why I can't explain the story...otherwise I'm going to be even more angry :p

I think I need to calm down. It happened 45 minutes ago.

Kubs
05-04-08, 02:02 PM
:smack: why were you on your own. always have someone wid you.

weren't there any other Muslims around to come to your help.?

I was on my way home from art course. lol.

There was...but they were women. No one helped.

-Fady-
05-04-08, 02:02 PM
Describe in detail what happened. You'll feel better.


:up:

Baybars
05-04-08, 02:05 PM
I am really angry which is why I can't explain the story...otherwise I'm going to be even more angry :p

I think I need to calm down. It happened 45 minutes ago.

Yeah, you definitely need to take some time to calm down. Your adrenaline levels are probably through the roof. Give it a few hours, you'll feel better. Try to get out of the house, out and about, doing your normal stuff, as soon as you can though.

Abu Nuh AMW
05-04-08, 02:39 PM
Asalamu'alaikum wa'rahmatullah

I hope you are well insha'Allah. I honestly think it would do you some good if ... you hunted them down and kicked the crap outa them one by one. No-one is hard to find nowadays.
If you still can, then go back now with someone and a baseball bat.

Failing that, even though I have no faith/respect in the police whatsoever, tell them and tell them to get cctv and press charges. That way you'll get the addresses of those **** anyway and then ... ;).
May Allah keep you protected.ameen.

WahYaLookin'At?
05-04-08, 03:05 PM
Asalamu'alaikum wa'rahmatullah

May Allah keep you protected.ameen.

Ameen,

Sorry to hear that Kubz,

AsalamuAlaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh.

Spiff
05-04-08, 03:42 PM
bigotry in numbers is a typical cowardly English trait. Now, that's unfair, and racist also.

hanaa_al_muminah
05-04-08, 04:30 PM
kubs u ok?????????????/

Kubs
05-04-08, 04:47 PM
kubs u ok?????????????/

Alhamdulillah I'm feeling much better now.

angel*
05-04-08, 05:18 PM
Alhamdulillah I'm feeling much better now.

phew glad 2 hear that! what happened hunz? :there:

Kubs
05-04-08, 05:24 PM
phew glad 2 hear that! what happened hunz? :there:

I'll post it up now Inshallah. Give me a few minutes. It's quite long.

Souljette
05-04-08, 05:34 PM
I'm curious now bt mst of all i'm glad your ok

Kubs
05-04-08, 06:05 PM
Describe in detail what happened. You'll feel better.


This is what happened:

I'm on the bus and the bus stops to let people out. 4 women...roughly 6ft ...are all in in front of me not budging. So I politely ask them 'can I please pass through'. The lady stares at me and says 'CALM DOWN YOU ******..we are also moving.' She then says something offensive.

I reply back saying 'you don't have to be rude about it. What's your problem?'

This is when the argument begins.

We all get off the bus and the four 4 women gang around me. They start shouting abuse..'what's our problem? WHAT'S OUR PROBLEM? OUR problem is you...you f'ing this...f'ing that.' :rubeyes:

I'm just surprised this minute...confused about the situation. So I raise my voice 'Have some manners....and stop over reacting.'

The 1st lady screams something along the lines of: 'Who do you think you are...you *****...' This is followed by other swear words.

I'm not bothered to listen to any of this...so I start walking away.

At this moment...one of them shouts 'you f'ing terrorist...calm back ere...you coward.....'. As far as I can remember she then proceeds to insult Islam.

I swear...the minute she uttered those words...I've never been this angry in my entire life. I'm not a violent person...I keep things to myself...I don't like confrontation...I don't like fights.

But I turn around and walk back.

Kubs: ‘what did you just say?’

All of them: ‘You **** terrorist…your religion is ******….Islam is ***** and ******.’

1 of them almost grabs my scarf to pull it off….I grab her from the arm and shout ‘if you EVER do that again…..I will kill you.’

One of them punches me.

At this moment I’m so shocked by what’s going on….I grab the phone and shout ‘I’m phoning the police’….only to realise I have no credit.

The lady shouts out: ‘You **** **** **** ****….we should be calling the police…you people are all terrorists…doing this to our country….blowing up people…’

Kubs: ‘lies lies lies lies lies lies….have you been watching the news lately….do you read the newspapers….can you EVEN read? Do you know how many people died in Iraq…Palestine?’

2nd lady: ‘Go back to your country you *******’

Now these women are blatantly not from the UK…so I shout back ‘Why don’t YOU go back to your country.’

All of them: ‘You are not British you disgusting piece of *****’ This is followed by further insults.

Kubs: ‘Does it look like I want to be British?

They then shout out ‘You **** Kurdish ****’

I’m not Kurdish btw :rolleyes:

Kubs: ‘Are you people always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?’

This is followed by further insults…..further shouts….and screaming.

I don’t think I’ve heard that many swear words used at one time. :o

The rest is followed by insults…I walk away….they start following me. After a while they get tired and move away.

I can’t recall exactly what was said….so this is only what I could remember. The argument was longer than this - this is only the summarised version.

brjimc
05-04-08, 06:09 PM
Subhanallah I'm so angry...I need to let off some steam.

My first ever fight with 4 racist non muslims. I've never been so angry in my entire life.

I need to calm down. Argh!


It happens bro. Just shake your head and walk away.

Unless of course they touch you, then take care of business.

Go for the biggest one first with all you have. The others will run after you take care of him ;)

summer786
05-04-08, 06:11 PM
This is what happened:

I'm on the bus and the bus stops to let people out. 4 women...roughly 6ft ...are all in in front of me not budging. So I politely ask them 'can I please pass through'. The lady stares at me and says 'CALM DOWN YOU ******..we are also moving.' She then says something offensive.

I reply back saying 'you don't have to be rude about it. What's your problem?'

This is when the argument begins.

We all get off the bus and the four 4 women gang around me. They start shouting abuse..'what's our problem? WHAT'S OUR PROBLEM? OUR problem is you...you f'ing this...f'ing that.' :rubeyes:

I'm just surprised this minute...confused about the situation. So I raise my voice 'Have some manners....and stop over reacting.'

The 1st lady screams something along the lines of: 'Who do you think you are...you *****...' This is followed by other swear words.

I'm not bothered to listen to any of this...so I start walking away.

At this moment...one of them shouts 'you f'ing terrorist...calm back ere...you coward.....'. As far as I can remember she then proceeds to insult Islam.

I swear...the minute she uttered those words...I've never been this angry in my entire life. I'm not a violent person...I keep things to myself...I don't like confrontation...I don't like fights.

But I turn around and walk back.

Kubs: ‘what did you just say?’

All of them: ‘You **** terrorist…your religion is ******….Islam is ***** and ******.’

1 of them almost grabs my scarf to pull it off….I grab her from the arm and shout ‘if you EVER do that again…..I will kill you.’

One of them punches me.

At this moment I’m so shocked by what’s going on….I grab the phone and shout ‘I’m phoning the police’….only to realise I have no credit.

The lady shouts out: ‘You **** **** **** ****….we should be calling the police…you people are all terrorists…doing this to our country….blowing up people…’

Kubs: ‘lies lies lies lies lies lies….have you been watching the news lately….do you read the newspapers….can you EVEN read? Do you know how many people died in Iraq…Palestine?’

2nd lady: ‘Go back to your country you *******’

Now these women are blatantly not from the UK…so I shout back ‘Why don’t YOU go back to your country.’

All of them: ‘You are not British you disgusting piece of *****’ This is followed by further insults.

Kubs: ‘Does it look like I want to be British?

They then shout out ‘You **** Kurdish ****’

I’m not Kurdish btw :rolleyes:

Kubs: ‘Are you people always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?’

This is followed by further insults…..further shouts….and screaming.

I don’t think I’ve heard that many swear words used at one time. :o

The rest is followed by insults…I walk away….they start following me. After a while they get tired and move away.

I can’t recall exactly what was said….so this is only what I could remember. The argument was longer than this - this is only the summarised version.

man reading that is making me mad!!! i cant stand people like that, who don't even use logical reason (which makes us HUMAN in the 1st place!!)

hope ur ok now sis, its hard not to retaliate but people like that are only looking for a fight. just use this and ur imagination to help --->:torture:

;)

Omar Mukhtar
05-04-08, 06:15 PM
‘I’m phoning the police’….only to realise I have no credit.

you don't need credits to phone police, it's a free number.

and nonone did anything to stop this where the hell was everyone.

jus be glad your still alive, most of these chavs carry knives around wid them these day's.

MWarrior
05-04-08, 06:15 PM
:rubeyes:cant believe people never intervened but this is normal nowadays.

can i just say that you do not need credit on your phone to dial 999!

Secondly if you dont mind, were these women white/black ?? you say they were foreign so im guessing they were eastern european ???

Kubs
05-04-08, 06:16 PM
you don't need credits to phone police, it's a free number.

and nonone did anything to stop this where the hell was everyone.

Yeah I knew that…but at the time….my mind was blank. I didn’t know WHAT to think.

People were just watching.

Kubs
05-04-08, 06:17 PM
:rubeyes:cant believe people never intervened but this is normal nowadays.

can i just say that you do not need credit on your phone to dial 999!

Secondly if you dont mind, were these women white/black ?? you say they were foreign so im guessing they were eastern european ???

They were black women....all of them.

yasmin20
05-04-08, 06:27 PM
:love:Assalam alakium sister kubs ,

I'm feeling so angry right now at these immature women, you know if they were on their own they wouldn't dare say anything...they're the ones who are cowards ....how can they attack 1 single person on their own with 4 of them on one side ...you must have been so truamatised at that point thinking what the heck is going on and your mind running all over the place ....who the heck do THEY think they are they had NO RIGHT to say anything to you let alone even touch you ,

the main thing is that you are alright now , it might be worth reporting them to the police but thats your choice sister, today you were a victim tomorrow someone else will be and they will continue to get away with it, these silly people don't realise that ALLAH swt is watching us all
how pathetic HOW PATHETIC is that I can't beleive it

sister i hope your well have the punched area checked out by a dr just incase and if its in your medical records it will be offical too and you handled it with so much bravery:love:

Al-Nasser
05-04-08, 06:31 PM
they could be thieves......sometimes they do that.....the team up against you in a fight which they start for no reason and in the middle of the fight they steal your dear money

cyber_abdullah
05-04-08, 06:32 PM
were you on your own, or did ya have some back up 4 against 1 man, they must've done some serious damage. hope you gave them a good beating too.

kubs isn't a guy.

Souljette
05-04-08, 06:35 PM
Mashallahhh siisss YOU GO GIRLLL....honestly you handled it good..u evn dissed them up lolz..nyways they're jst stupid..nd it doesnt' matter wht color they are ...their jst ignorant...the ones who are smart dn't bother doin this nd think it's rongg...ye in the fst place i wuldn't evn ask them wht's dere problem..i'd jst walk away..ain't wrth my time loll..bt alhamdullah gladd ur ok nd goodddd nd brave as always

cyber_abdullah
05-04-08, 06:40 PM
Carry a sharp pen with you, like this:
http://www.penherostore.com/catalog/ApogeeChrome.jpg

Anybody threaten your life, defend yourself with the pen.

GuCcI
05-04-08, 06:41 PM
Yeah I knew that…but at the time….my mind was blank. I didn’t know WHAT to think.

People were just watching.

thats so stupid. bystanders are pathetic. you'd think one of them would call the police or something if they dont step up, but no. crackheads.

yasmin20
05-04-08, 06:42 PM
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thats so stupid. bystanders are pathetic. you'd think one of them would call the police or something if they dont step up, but no. crackheads.


EXACTLY

Ibrahim70
05-04-08, 06:47 PM
I've just read your account of what happened............ :( I am so angry right now! This country breads these sort of people and no one seems to care much.

Oh Sister I really feel sorry for you :)

Was this at night or in broad daylight? :(

`asiya
05-04-08, 06:48 PM
la howla wala qawta illah billah :( hope ur ok insha Allah sis and she didnt bruise u up too much insha Allah. subhanAllah this happens to me all the time i dont leave home alone now not even during the day which is hard cos sometimes it means i cant go out for weeks.

i get this kind of thing quite a lot usually from men and teenagers then again some women too,i get it from one of my racist neighbours make rude gestures everytime he sees me, i got so many jibes and insults thrown at me one afternoon, i was spat on, sworn at, and then as i was leaving town this portugese woman sitting outside a cafe, started insulting me in portugese as i walked past calling me .. well i wont say, and she was thinking i wouldnt understand, and i turned around put my shopping bags down and said come on then and faced up to her, her male freinds told her to sit down and stop being stupid but it does all get too much sometimes.

sometimes they just swear and shout insults, one guy started singing the batman theme tune and i gave him what for, his mates told him to sit down and stop being such an idiot, sometimes they do get physical, i got hit in the side of the head by a huge polish guy on the bus and a muslim brother who was sitting in the seat in front ( who had proposed marriage to me a few months before so he knew me) just looked at the floor and didnt say a word then again he can barely speak english and no good yelling at the brits in bengali, even the kuffar women were more concerned then him and got up and said are u ok, i didnt flinch although i felt like he has split my skull cos i didnt want him to get the satisfaction of knowing he had hurt me.

anyway sometimes its best to just leave and not say anything sometimes u cant take anymore and i understand that too,cos they have had me at the end of my tether but now i personally dont leave the house alone anymore as a result, not even during the day.

always have a mahram with u, i learnt that there is a reason why Allah ta ala told us to stay in our houses and not leave without necessity and then we should leave with a mahram Alhamdulillah Allah sent us such a protection especially in these days sis :(

Ibrahim70
05-04-08, 06:51 PM
la howla wala qawta illah billah :( hope ur ok insha Allah sis and she didnt bruise u up too much insha Allah. subhanAllah this happens to me all the time i dont leave home alone now not even during the day which is hard cos sometimes it means i cant go out for weeks.

i get this kind of thing quite a lot usually from men and teenagers then again some women too, i got so many jibes and insults thrown at me one afternoon and as i was leaving town this portugese woman sitting outside a cafe, started insulting me in portugese as i walked past calling me .. well i wont say, and she was thinking i wouldnt understand, and i turned around put my shopping bags down and said come on then and faced up to her, her male freinds told her to sit down and stop being stupid but it does all get too much sometimes.

sometimes they just swear and shout insults, one guy started singing the batman theme tune and i gave him what for, his mates told him to sit down and stop being such an idiot, sometimes they do get physical, i got hit in the side of the head by a huge polish guy on the bus and a muslim brother who was sitting in the seat in front ( who had proposed marriage to me a few months before so he knew me) just looked at the floor and didnt say a word then again he can barely speak english and no good yelling at the brits in bengali, even the kuffar women were more concerned then him and got up and said are u ok, i didnt flinch although i felt like he has split my skull cos i didnt want him to get the satisfaction of knowing he had hurt me.

anyway sometimes its best to just leave and not say anything sometimes u cant take anymore and i understand that too, but now i personally dont leave the house alone anymore as a result, not even during the day.

always have a mahram with u, i learnt that there is a reason why Allah ta ala told us to stay in our houses and not leave without necessity and then we should leave with a mahram Alhamdulillah Allah sent us such a protection especially in these days sis :(

*Ibrahim sighs :( *

This is so awful to read. I know it goes on but to read your words and the other Sisters really make me want to get to the gym, build up some muscle and escort you gitrls home next time.

:( its so sad to hear this going on.

And as you say Sister Asiya, always make sure you have a Mahram with you

Al-Nasser
05-04-08, 06:53 PM
always make sure you have a Mahram with you

or self defense....which is cheaper and won't nag about the long time you spend shopping

~Warda~
05-04-08, 06:53 PM
Sis i hope ur ok! These people are just not worth it...just walk away in these situations.

Kubs
05-04-08, 06:54 PM
la howla wala qawta illah billah :( hope ur ok insha Allah sis and she didnt bruise u up too much insha Allah. subhanAllah this happens to me all the time i dont leave home alone now not even during the day which is hard cos sometimes it means i cant go out for weeks.

i get this kind of thing quite a lot usually from men and teenagers then again some women too,i get it from one of my racist neighbours make rude gestures everytime he sees me, i got so many jibes and insults thrown at me one afternoon, i was spat on, sworn at, and then as i was leaving town this portugese woman sitting outside a cafe, started insulting me in portugese as i walked past calling me .. well i wont say, and she was thinking i wouldnt understand, and i turned around put my shopping bags down and said come on then and faced up to her, her male freinds told her to sit down and stop being stupid but it does all get too much sometimes.

sometimes they just swear and shout insults, one guy started singing the batman theme tune and i gave him what for, his mates told him to sit down and stop being such an idiot, sometimes they do get physical, i got hit in the side of the head by a huge polish guy on the bus and a muslim brother who was sitting in the seat in front ( who had proposed marriage to me a few months before so he knew me) just looked at the floor and didnt say a word then again he can barely speak english and no good yelling at the brits in bengali, even the kuffar women were more concerned then him and got up and said are u ok, i didnt flinch although i felt like he has split my skull cos i didnt want him to get the satisfaction of knowing he had hurt me.

anyway sometimes its best to just leave and not say anything sometimes u cant take anymore and i understand that too, but now i personally dont leave the house alone anymore as a result, not even during the day.

always have a mahram with u, i learnt that there is a reason why Allah ta ala told us to stay in our houses and not leave without necessity and then we should leave with a mahram Alhamdulillah Allah sent us such a protection especially in these days sis :(

Ah Jazakallah Khair sis. That's awful what happened to you. Mashallah you are really brave.

Don't worry. Alhamdulillah when they tried punching me...I dodged it....a little.

~Warda~
05-04-08, 06:55 PM
or self defense....which is cheaper and won't nag about the long time you spend shopping

But self-defence wont always help you especially if ur up against 4 huge women :eek:
They would think twice if ur with a man:up:

Ibrahim70
05-04-08, 06:56 PM
Ah Jazakallah Khair sis. That's awful what happened to you. Mashallah you are really brave.

Don't worry. Alhamdulillah when they tried punching me...I dodged it....a little.

:( so you were hurt? You still hurting now Sister? :(

`asiya
05-04-08, 06:58 PM
or self defense....which is cheaper and won't nag about the long time you spend shopping

we shouldnt have to defend ourselves, there is a serious breakdown in this ummah when it comes to our women being protected by our men, those in born muslim families should not have to go out alone,Allah ta ala says men are the maintainers and protectors of women, we are not our own protectors. and in the time of the sahabba women who reverted to islam were married right away for their own protection,and security, now a days when men cant be bothered to take care of more than one women, and the sisters wont let them re-marry, there are so many who cant or wont get married to those outside their own cultures because of family pressures, imams and fathers and brothers are not doing their jobs it is left to us to fend for ourselves, my sons arent even muslim and they wont let me walk out alone now, muslim men should be doing the same for the women in their families.

Ibrahim70
05-04-08, 07:01 PM
we shouldnt have to defend ourselves, there is a serious breakdown in this ummah when it comes to our women being protected by our men, those in born muslim families should not have to go out alone,Allah ta ala says men are the maintainers and protectors of women, we are not our own protectors. and in the time of the sahabba women who reverted to islam were married right away for their own protection,and security, now a days when men cant be bothered to take care of more than one women, and the sisters wont let them re-marry, there are so many who cant or wont get married to those outside their own cultures because of family pressures, imams and fathers and brothers are not doing their jobs it is left to us to fend for ourselves, my sons arent even muslim and they wont let me walk out alone now, muslim men should be doing the same for the women in their families.

Very true Sister. We Muslim men should be there for our Sisters at all times. We live in a country, a society, of fear and attacks on Islam and Muslims are happening more and more so as Brothers we need to stand up for our Sisters and protect them and our Masjids.

Kubs
05-04-08, 07:05 PM
I've just read your account of what happened............ :( I am so angry right now! This country breads these sort of people and no one seems to care much.

Oh Sister I really feel sorry for you :)

Was this at night or in broad daylight? :(

It was in broad daylight.

Don’t feel sorry for me. Alhamdulillah I’m safe and un harmed. I wasn’t afraid/scared. I’m just annoyed with myself for not saying more.

Ibrahim70
05-04-08, 07:07 PM
It was in broad daylight.

Don’t feel sorry for me. Alhamdulillah I’m safe and un harmed. I wasn’t afraid/scared. I’m just annoyed with myself for not saying more.

But you have to be careful Sister. There was 4 of them and who knows what they had under there clothes.............so just take care Sister.............walk away and try to ignore them :)

Kasim2k7
05-04-08, 07:08 PM
When do you attack? This is when you attack.
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=165025

`asiya
05-04-08, 07:08 PM
Ah Jazakallah Khair sis. That's awful what happened to you. Mashallah you are really brave.

Don't worry. Alhamdulillah when they tried punching me...I dodged it....a little.

not realy brave just tired of all the insults and stares and the nonsense, and hatred on the streets. alhamdulillah you dodged it a bit, subhanAllah im in tears here sis wallahi makes me so upset to hear u had to go through that. and as for reporting it to the police, u dont need credit to ring them sis just dial 999 but saying that here they do nothing..maybe they are different where u live insha Allah.

when i had trouble i had with another female neighbour the housing officer said to me did u not try speaking to her, i told her she shouts insults at me about being muslim, and then i got a letter from the dept. saying and i quote " the fact that you mentioned you are a muslim means you are accusing the housing department of being biggotted and racist towards you" the housing officer then had my car towed away while the mecanic was working on it and had gone to get the fuel pump, and it cost me 90 quid to get it back, and when they returned it they had broken the clutch and denied it !! :mad:

dont ever expect justice from the non muslims when it comes to issues like this, best to tie your camel and try not to be out alone, this can happen day or night ukhti. i cant wait to get out of this stinking hate filled country insha Allah, may Allah protect u amin !! :love:

Kasim2k7
05-04-08, 07:13 PM
May Allah protect all of us. This is just wrong. Its ok if its personal but insulting Islam and The Prophets then how we meant to keep low? Because Allah told us to love Him and His prophet peace be upon him more than your parents and your wealth.

Ibrahim70
05-04-08, 07:16 PM
This makes me so angry and scared at the same time. I want to have children of my own one day and to think I will be bringing them up to walk free in this society scares me :(

UkhtAlMuslimeen
05-04-08, 07:25 PM
This is what happened:

I'm on the bus and the bus stops to let people out. 4 women...roughly 6ft ...are all in in front of me not budging. So I politely ask them 'can I please pass through'. The lady stares at me and says 'CALM DOWN YOU ******..we are also moving.' She then says something offensive.

I reply back saying 'you don't have to be rude about it. What's your problem?'

This is when the argument begins.

We all get off the bus and the four 4 women gang around me. They start shouting abuse..'what's our problem? WHAT'S OUR PROBLEM? OUR problem is you...you f'ing this...f'ing that.' :rubeyes:

I'm just surprised this minute...confused about the situation. So I raise my voice 'Have some manners....and stop over reacting.'

The 1st lady screams something along the lines of: 'Who do you think you are...you *****...' This is followed by other swear words.

I'm not bothered to listen to any of this...so I start walking away.

At this moment...one of them shouts 'you f'ing terrorist...calm back ere...you coward.....'. As far as I can remember she then proceeds to insult Islam.

I swear...the minute she uttered those words...I've never been this angry in my entire life. I'm not a violent person...I keep things to myself...I don't like confrontation...I don't like fights.

But I turn around and walk back.

Kubs: ‘what did you just say?’

All of them: ‘You **** terrorist…your religion is ******….Islam is ***** and ******.’

1 of them almost grabs my scarf to pull it off….I grab her from the arm and shout ‘if you EVER do that again…..I will kill you.’

One of them punches me.

At this moment I’m so shocked by what’s going on….I grab the phone and shout ‘I’m phoning the police’….only to realise I have no credit.

The lady shouts out: ‘You **** **** **** ****….we should be calling the police…you people are all terrorists…doing this to our country….blowing up people…’

Kubs: ‘lies lies lies lies lies lies….have you been watching the news lately….do you read the newspapers….can you EVEN read? Do you know how many people died in Iraq…Palestine?’

2nd lady: ‘Go back to your country you *******’

Now these women are blatantly not from the UK…so I shout back ‘Why don’t YOU go back to your country.’

All of them: ‘You are not British you disgusting piece of *****’ This is followed by further insults.

Kubs: ‘Does it look like I want to be British?

They then shout out ‘You **** Kurdish ****’

I’m not Kurdish btw :rolleyes:

Kubs: ‘Are you people always this stupid or are you making a special effort today?’

This is followed by further insults…..further shouts….and screaming.

I don’t think I’ve heard that many swear words used at one time. :o

The rest is followed by insults…I walk away….they start following me. After a while they get tired and move away.

I can’t recall exactly what was said….so this is only what I could remember. The argument was longer than this - this is only the summarised version.
:salams
omg ..omg...omg ..omg!!!..lol!
no for real...are you alright??
btw...kurdish!..lol..:rofl1:
in future the best thing to do...is walk away, especially if your on your own...
but, well done..for being brave!
Allah is and always will be with us...

Souljette
05-04-08, 07:32 PM
I dn't get how ppl can jst do this to any1..i've lived in america nd canada nd yes remarks hv been made nd evrythng..bt never hv physically tried to hit me nd the spit part sis asiya..if i was in tht situation...i think tht person wuldn't b alive tday..i always hd a weapon wit me fr self defense cuz i knew the situation culd arise..bt it seems tht in london it's wrse..

`asiya
05-04-08, 07:35 PM
I dn't get how ppl can jst do this to any1..i've lived in america nd canada nd yes remarks hv been made nd evrythng..bt never hv physically tried to hit me nd the spit part sis asiya..if i was in tht situation...i think tht person wuldn't b alive tday..i always hd a weapon wit me fr self defense cuz i knew the situation culd arise..bt it seems tht in london it's wrse..

sis the man was straight out of work and wearing a toolbelt with hammers and screwdrivers in it, i wasnt about to confront a skinhead with weapons twice my size cos he flobbed on my jilbab.. a police officer was actually standing on the street and i went straight up to him, but he was talking to an insane woman and kept telling me to wait, he took my details and later claimed there was nothing on the cctv although i was right under a camera and another was on the opposite side of the street, when it happened in the middle of town. problem is with carrying weapons they can be turned against you , i have some background in martial arts and can hold my own but there are sometimes times when its better to walk away .

Kubs
05-04-08, 07:40 PM
not realy brave just tired of all the insults and stares and the nonsense, and hatred on the streets. alhamdulillah you dodged it a bit, subhanAllah im in tears here sis wallahi makes me so upset to hear u had to go through that. and as for reporting it to the police, u dont need credit to ring them sis just dial 999 but saying that here they do nothing..maybe they are different where u live insha Allah.

when i had trouble i had with another female neighbour the housing officer said to me did u not try speaking to her, i told her she shouts insults at me about being muslim, and then i got a letter from the dept. saying and i quote " the fact that you mentioned you are a muslim means you are accusing the housing department of being biggotted and racist towards you" the housing officer then had my car towed away while the mecanic was working on it and had gone to get the fuel pump, and it cost me 90 quid to get it back, and when they returned it they had broken the clutch and denied it !! :mad:

dont ever expect justice from the non muslims when it comes to issues like this, best to tie your camel and try not to be out alone, this can happen day or night ukhti. i cant wait to get out of this stinking hate filled country insha Allah, may Allah protect u amin !! :love:

This is the first time something like this happened.....It's NOWHERE near what you experienced. I think you are really brave...in fact I'm suprised how you managed to cope with all these insults. Mashallah.

Souljette
05-04-08, 07:41 PM
Wow noww i wish i had tht lolll..the martial arts part..ye i knw..i never trst the cops either way bt woww skinhead did dat too...bt ofcourse if u can walk away frm the situation it's good alhamdullah i've done tht mannyyy timesss...bt i'm gnna use sum if sum1 tries to do anythng..ppl are nicer in canada fr all i knew except fr sum bad apples ...i dnt think any1 shuld b alone..dey can b wit frnds or sumthng bt nt alone..i was always iwt frnds except sumtimes whn i wuld go home alone which wasn't a problem bt sitill i wuld advise sisters or ny1 to b wit sum1 else...bt sis asiya..may allah reward you fr ur patience Ameen and sis Kubs as well

s4bXX
05-04-08, 07:57 PM
Salam,

Mashallah u go sister! i hate ppl lyk that! they av no respect and they dont even no wether their cumin or going! Freaks! how dare they even touch us!! i think u should report it. it might av been caught on cctv or sumthing! inshllah i hope they change one day and if not i hope they get paid bck one day!
tk cre,

sabz.

.: emerald :.
05-04-08, 08:23 PM
:eek: sis are you ok? :rubeyes: subhan'Allah

the_middle_road
05-04-08, 08:23 PM
Wow. Hectic. I thought we had it bad here with all the crime and whatnot but at least stuff like that doesn't happen over here. At least, not that I'm aware of.

cyber_abdullah
05-04-08, 08:36 PM
not realy brave just tired of all the insults and stares and the nonsense, and hatred on the streets. alhamdulillah you dodged it a bit, subhanAllah im in tears here sis wallahi makes me so upset to hear u had to go through that. and as for reporting it to the police, u dont need credit to ring them sis just dial 999 but saying that here they do nothing..maybe they are different where u live insha Allah.

when i had trouble i had with another female neighbour the housing officer said to me did u not try speaking to her, i told her she shouts insults at me about being muslim, and then i got a letter from the dept. saying and i quote " the fact that you mentioned you are a muslim means you are accusing the housing department of being biggotted and racist towards you" the housing officer then had my car towed away while the mecanic was working on it and had gone to get the fuel pump, and it cost me 90 quid to get it back, and when they returned it they had broken the clutch and denied it !! :mad:

dont ever expect justice from the non muslims when it comes to issues like this, best to tie your camel and try not to be out alone, this can happen day or night ukhti. i cant wait to get out of this stinking hate filled country insha Allah, may Allah protect u amin !! :love:


Why don't you come to the mainland, sister? surely life would be better in a more civilised place.

Ibrahim70
05-04-08, 08:38 PM
Salam,

Mashallah u go sister! i hate ppl lyk that! they av no respect and they dont even no wether their cumin or going! Freaks! how dare they even touch us!!.........

****, thats what they are, ****

Cartman
05-04-08, 08:40 PM
I know how u feel, I got jumped the other day and had to fight(But Im 6'5 300)..but just stay in there....

Do yall ahve concealed weapons permits in Britain, cuz if you do, I advise you to start carrying one, if you ever feel threatened again, get a Glock and as soon as they start doing stupid stuff, pull it out and point it at those idiots, they attack..shoot..it was self defense

R3FL3CT
05-04-08, 08:44 PM
Very sorry to hear of your experience kubs, this world has three types of people : the good, the bad and the ugly. Encounters with the bad bring out the beauty in the good. :insha: this encounter taught you the amount of Islamaphobia that exists and the great need to do something about it.

LastFriday
05-04-08, 08:45 PM
This is getting ridiculous. It seems like you guys are getting worse abuses over in UK and EUROPE then here in the US....I mean, its been a WHILE Since I heard of a muslim sister or brother being attacked....A VERY LONG TIME...and it all started here.....I really think some of you people should move! LEAVE THE Stupid country! Especially, sister Asiya, you seem to have gone through a lot in that stupid small Island.

Masha'Allah, for standing up for Islam sis. Very commendable! I mean, that takes guts...I haven't been in a situation like that yet, but I really don't know WHAT I would do if I was....Subhan'Allah, May Allah (swt) Bless you for standing up :)

I know how u feel, I got jumped the other day and had to fight..but just stay in there....

Do yall ahve concealed weapons permits in Britain, cuz if you do, I advise you to start carrying one, if you ever feel threatened again

Ya, I got a set of brass knuckles :D

Cartman
05-04-08, 08:47 PM
yes Lastfriday, them brass knuckles work wonders, just start swinging wildly

Morris
05-04-08, 08:50 PM
Ya, I got a set of brass knuckles :D

:nono::nono::nono:

I doubt those are under a permit:rolleyes:

I think there has been plenty of research done to show that if you carry weapons you are more likely to get attacked by weapons. Its the company you keep:)

neelu
05-04-08, 08:51 PM
Kubs I have a feeling that calling the police wouldn't have made much difference except maybe to deter the girls from going further. As for the fact that Muslims were around and did nothing- WHAT COWARDS! I'm sure it would've made a difference if someone intervened. Of course you would've been alone- Kufaar racists almost always gang up on individuals because they're too weak to act alone. Even if another female was with you they would've thought twice before doing what they did.

Asiya you seriously need to move to my neighbourhood. That just doesn't happen around here (although admittedly some areas on the outskirts or outside town are less safe- but this neighbourhood is fine alhamdullilah). Muslims here have safety in numbers alhamdullilah even though we're a minority, we're a very visible minority and admittedly most non Muslims round here are fairly tolerant anyway. Even after 9/11 and 7/7 things were pretty much business as usual around here.

One young sister started getting racist abuse from a boy on her school bus who had been troubling her for days. She tried walking away, she tried answering back but he was very persistent. Other people from her school were on the bus too but they were too cowardly to do anything (not sure if any Muslims were among them tbh). Eventually she told a male cousin in the school what was happening and he gathered a whole gang of brothers together after school to surround the racist outside. The next day the racist boy was even scared of going to school in case of what would happen and the staff had to intervene to put an end to the intimidation on both sides, but needless to say- he hasn't troubled her since then;)

LastFriday
05-04-08, 09:10 PM
Eventually she told a male cousin in the school what was happening and he gathered a whole gang of brothers together after school to surround the racist outside. The next day the racist boy was even scared of going to school in case of what would happen and the staff had to intervene to put an end to the intimidation on both sides, but needless to say- he hasn't troubled her since then;)

NOW that PUT A SMILE on my FACE!

Al-Nasser
05-04-08, 09:21 PM
This is getting ridiculous. It seems like you guys are getting worse abuses over in UK and EUROPE then here in the US....I mean, its been a WHILE Since I heard of a muslim sister or brother being attacked....A VERY LONG TIME...and it all started here.....I really think some of you people should move! LEAVE THE Stupid country! Especially, sister Asiya, you seem to have gone through a lot in that stupid small Island.

you should all come to live in Egypt.......and if someone accidentally put his hand on your shoulder he will be beaten 10 minutes straight by a fairly large crowd and they will only stop after they realize that he is blind (true story happened in a bus in Cairo)

beamz
05-04-08, 09:44 PM
I hope and pray that you are ok sis kubs :love: , your situation scares me i wouldnt know how to handle them girls, 4 of them too.You are so brave.
May Allah guide us and help us.

JDR
05-04-08, 10:06 PM
Narrated Anas bin Malik:

The Prophet said, "A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah's Cause in the forenoon or in the afternoon is better than the world and whatever is in it."

JDR
05-04-08, 10:28 PM
Masha Allah i think you must read that hadith..

Alhamdullilah you oke! I know lodon is like that I used to live there n met as well very sick people but Alhamdullilah Allah swt have make survive them. One time a Hooligan try the punch my in my face very hard!! Alhamdullilah I only felt something going next to my face I was like did that really happened SubhanaAllah! But I did dent look back to that wacko…

Cause never look a animal in his eyes, cause they get all crazy!!

But i have to say you very brave Masha Allah!!

Abu Muslim
05-04-08, 11:15 PM
woah subhanAllah, Im not even sure what to say to you ukhtee except erm, well done on the bravery, may Allah reward you for sticking up for the deen and may he protect you always. I think sisters who travel alone much and cant go around with a mahrem, they should all learn kick boxing or something so they can kick some kuffar stuff.

You know the one who dies protecting himself and his family, then he dies a shaheed, shame you didnt die [lol not in that way]

But yea, thats my message, now heres a message from adz3 about a incident that happened in mine and his college (RUTC college) - goiing on from lastfridays post about how to deal with kuffar lol.

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Asalamulaykum
Ameen to the earlier dua’s. May allah swt protect you sister from such situations in the future. Amen. The sad thing i find is that how no one else helped.
I’ve left this forum however whilst looking at events, I noticed this thread and it brought back an incident which occurred in my college. RUTC. Which at that current stage had the best isoc in the world, however now the bext isoc is QM however that’s another issue for another particular thread with another particular uni for another particular time inshaAllah looool
Ok now for the story. let me set the scene first inshaAllah. Picture a college in a white then white area. In the middle of that college a bunch of sisters, abaya hijab etc. An incident occurs whereby a white youth hurls discriminative abuse at one of the sisters. The Rutc sisters, as hot headed as some of them where, MashaAllah i believe took it upon themselves to wait for the boy outside his class room if i remember correctly. Magrib time kicks in and everyone goes to the prayer room to pray.
In which time some of the brothers find out what had happened and found out which class the boy was in. Now ruct was blessed with some big brothers mashaAllah, and some slightly hot headed ones.
Two of the brothers, one of the big ones and one of the hot headed ones, go to the boys class.
O yeh, the brother in charge of the mission put 2 brothers at each entrance to make sure he didn’t run away.
The two brothers walked into the class and tell the boy to come out. After a conversation with he teacher the boy is taken out.
Now the boy i must say, was completely S**** it. One of the brother placed his arm around him to comfort him to make sure he was not scared loool. And we talk to him and explain how in Islam we have a 0 % policy of tolerance when it comes misbehaving with our sisters.
Neway..we walk him to the sister prayer room and knock on the door and ask for the sister to come to the door. The boy was made to lower his gaze and apologise for what was said.
He was then made to run home down the road from our college.
As the brothers from the isoc find out later if i remember correctly the sisters were not even there who were involved in the incident *waks head*

WARNING: the brother involed where stopped by security that same day so i woudnt advise anyone to do this so openely as if we own the college *waks head* and nothings gona happen.

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Kubs
05-04-08, 11:48 PM
woah subhanAllah, Im not even sure what to say to you ukhtee except erm, well done on the bravery, may Allah reward you for sticking up for the deen and may he protect you always. I think sisters who travel alone much and cant go around with a mahrem, they should all learn kick boxing or something so they can kick some kuffar stuff.

You know the one who dies protecting himself and his family, then he dies a shaheed, shame you didnt die [lol not in that way]

But yea, thats my message, now heres a message from adz3 about a incident that happened in mine and his college (RUTC college) - goiing on from lastfridays post about how to deal with kuffar lol.

----

Asalamulaykum
Ameen to the earlier dua’s. May allah swt protect you sister from such situations in the future. Amen. The sad thing i find is that how no one else helped.
I’ve left this forum however whilst looking at events, I noticed this thread and it brought back an incident which occurred in my college. RUTC. Which at that current stage had the best isoc in the world, however now the bext isoc is QM however that’s another issue for another particular thread with another particular uni for another particular time inshaAllah looool
Ok now for the story. let me set the scene first inshaAllah. Picture a college in a white then white area. In the middle of that college a bunch of sisters, abaya hijab etc. An incident occurs whereby a white youth hurls discriminative abuse at one of the sisters. The Rutc sisters, as hot headed as some of them where, MashaAllah i believe took it upon themselves to wait for the boy outside his class room if i remember correctly. Magrib time kicks in and everyone goes to the prayer room to pray.
In which time some of the brothers find out what had happened and found out which class the boy was in. Now ruct was blessed with some big brothers mashaAllah, and some slightly hot headed ones.
Two of the brothers, one of the big ones and one of the hot headed ones, go to the boys class.
O yeh, the brother in charge of the mission put 2 brothers at each entrance to make sure he didn’t run away.
The two brothers walked into the class and tell the boy to come out. After a conversation with he teacher the boy is taken out.
Now the boy i must say, was completely S**** it. One of the brother placed his arm around him to comfort him to make sure he was not scared loool. And we talk to him and explain how in Islam we have a 0 % policy of tolerance when it comes misbehaving with our sisters.
Neway..we walk him to the sister prayer room and knock on the door and ask for the sister to come to the door. The boy was made to lower his gaze and apologise for what was said.
He was then made to run home down the road from our college.
As the brothers from the isoc find out later if i remember correctly the sisters were not even there who were involved in the incident *waks head*

WARNING: the brother involed where stopped by security that same day so i woudnt advise anyone to do this so openely as if we own the college *waks head* and nothings gona happen.

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Jazakallah Khair Abu Muslim. Now my dad is determinded to make me learn Thai Boxing :smack:

As for ADZ3...Jazakallah Khair brother for telling me about the incident. Mashallah at the brothers for dealing with the situation in a sensible way. It's good to know you have backup.

When these ladies surrounded me....there were people in sight...but no brothers. Alhamdulillah I am capable of dealing with the situation alone - no problem there. What worried me was when one of the ladies shouted out 'we gonna get our men to beat the hell outta you.'

You see I can deal with 4 giant women....but a man's strength cannot be compared to a woman's strength....so I pretty much panicked when they said that.

Alhamdulillah though.....I managed to get away before it got serious.

Stylish-Girly
05-04-08, 11:54 PM
You're 2 cool Kubs

Just read what happened, good on you they were well out of order

UkhtAlMuslimeen
05-04-08, 11:56 PM
Jazakallah Khair Abu Muslim. Now my dad is determinded to make me learn Thai Boxing :smack:
kubs...you told your dad???
are you dumb or are you dumb?
...ok, maybe your dads not like mine...but he would be picking me up all the time from that day forwards...and then he would say something like..'its becuase of the way you dress..blah blah'

`asiya
05-04-08, 11:57 PM
ukhti kubs if a man or someone bigger than u comes at u and u might not have much of a chance , what i taught my sons was the two finger eye jab when they come at u just open your index and middle fingers wide pull your arm back keeping your fingers straight and strong and then push forward with all your weight behind it and push them into your attackers eyes ... then run as fast as u can insha Allah ( make sure u pick up your jilbab as u run :p ) seriously my son had to use this a few weeks back and it works a treat. if they grab your wrist then kick them hard in the shin then use the other arm with the same move

as the old jamican saying goes " he who fight and run away live to fight another day" :coolbro:

Kubs
05-04-08, 11:58 PM
kubs...you told your dad???
are you dumb or are you dumb?
...ok, maybe your dads not like mine...but he would be picking me up all the time from that day forwards...and then he would say something like..'its becuase of the way you dress..blah blah'

I told my brothers :outta:

My dad was like ''right...from now on..Thai Boxing on Mondays...Karate on Tuesdays....and Kung Fu on Fridays''

Kubs
06-04-08, 12:00 AM
ukhti kubs if a man or someone bigger than u comes at u and u might not have much of a chance , what i taught my sons was the two finger eye jab when they come at u just open your index and middle fingers wide pull your arm back keeping your fingers straight and strong and then push forward with all your weight behind it and push them into your attackers eyes ... then run as fast as u can insha Allah ( make sure u pick up your jilbab as u run :p ) seriously my son had to use this a few weeks back and it works a treat. if they grab your wrist then kick them hard in the shin then use the other arm with the same move

as the old jamican saying goes " he who fight and run away live to fight another day" :coolbro:

:rotfl:

I thought of pepper spray...a kick....whacks with umbrella.......and then *picks abayah*....run run run!

UkhtAlMuslimeen
06-04-08, 12:01 AM
I told my brothers :outta:

My dad was like ''right...from now on..Thai Boxing on Mondays...Karate on Tuesdays....and Kung Fu on Fridays''
loool!..:rofl1:

`asiya
06-04-08, 12:02 AM
:rotfl:

I thought of pepper spray...and then a kick....whacks with umbrella.......and then *picks abayah*....run run run!

thats the way :up:

Kubs
06-04-08, 12:02 AM
loool!..:rofl1:

It's no good. I need time for my Islamic lessons :smack: Tajvid...Hadith classes....and then general Islamic knowledge.

Where do I find the time? Argh!

MalikOne™
06-04-08, 12:04 AM
They were black women....all of them.

bad idea to go in2 a verbal slangin match u cud be ther all day

Kubs
06-04-08, 12:05 AM
bad idea to go in2 a verbal slangin match u cud be ther all day

I didn't understand half of what they were saying....too much slang :p

UkhtAlMuslimeen
06-04-08, 12:05 AM
It's no good. I need time for my Islamic lessons :smack: Tajvid...Hadith classes....and then general Islamic knowledge.

Where do I find the time? Argh!
is you dad that serious?....but im not surprised!
honestly, i know niqaabi's that have been spat at and all sorts of horrible things like that....but you dont tell your parents..unless, your taking legal action..lol!

`asiya
06-04-08, 12:07 AM
It's no good. I need time for my Islamic lessons :smack: Tajvid...Hadith classes....and then general Islamic knowledge.

Where do I find the time? Argh!

if u have a garage then a punch bag is excellent to practice on sis, i put one up, u just need a fat chain on one of the joists and u can practice ur moves on that, it really does help to have some perspective on how to kick and deal with a heavy object coming at u and teaches u how to throw your weight behind ur moves ( make sure u wear boxing goves though or it will take the skin off your knuckles )

MalikOne™
06-04-08, 12:07 AM
...

nd i can tell dis happen in north london cos they called u kurdish

Kubs
06-04-08, 12:10 AM
is you dad that serious?....but im not surprised!
honestly, i know niqaabi's that have been spat at and all sorts of horrible things like that....but you dont tell your parents..unless, your taking legal action..lol!

I think he is. :D

It's virtually impossible for them to not figure out something was wrong with me. It showed on my face.....I was fuming with anger.

Spiff
06-04-08, 12:10 AM
you should all come to live in Egypt.......and if someone accidentally put his hand on your shoulder he will be beaten 10 minutes straight by a fairly large crowd and they will only stop after they realize that he is blind (true story happened in a bus in Cairo)Of course : mob justice, that's the efficient, moral thing to do...

Kubs
06-04-08, 12:12 AM
if u have a garage then a punch bag is excellent to practice on sis, i put one up, u just need a fat chain on one of the joists and u can practice ur moves on that, it really does help to have some perspective on how to kick and deal with a heavy object coming at u and teaches u how to throw your weight behind ur moves ( make sure u wear boxing goves though or it will take the skin off your knuckles )

Oh we have all these at home. One of my brothers is a Thai Boxer....he's been doing it for 3 years so he keeps all his stuff at home. He lets me practice...but I'm only an amateur.

UkhtAlMuslimeen
06-04-08, 12:14 AM
Oh we have all these at home. One of my brothers is a Thai Boxer....he's been doing it for 3 years so he keeps all his stuff at home. He lets me practice...but I'm only an amateur.
....is that you ;)..lol!

Kubs
06-04-08, 12:15 AM
....is that you ;)..lol!

:coolbro:

Cartman
06-04-08, 12:30 AM
Of course : mob justice, that's the efficient, moral thing to do...

better than no justice

ummbilal
06-04-08, 12:30 AM
kubs...you told your dad???
are you dumb or are you dumb?
...ok, maybe your dads not like mine...but he would be picking me up all the time from that day forwards...and then he would say something like..'its becuase of the way you dress..blah blah'

shes not dumb at all, her dad isnt your dad subhannallah

and yes thai boxing sounds like a good idea as well as a driving licence inshaallah

LastFriday
06-04-08, 12:39 AM
if u have a garage then a punch bag is excellent to practice on sis, i put one up, u just need a fat chain on one of the joists and u can practice ur moves on that, it really does help to have some perspective on how to kick and deal with a heavy object coming at u and teaches u how to throw your weight behind ur moves ( make sure u wear boxing goves though or it will take the skin off your knuckles )

:rotfl:

I thought of pepper spray...a kick....whacks with umbrella.......and then *picks abayah*....run run run!

ukhti kubs if a man or someone bigger than u comes at u and u might not have much of a chance , what i taught my sons was the two finger eye jab when they come at u just open your index and middle fingers wide pull your arm back keeping your fingers straight and strong and then push forward with all your weight behind it and push them into your attackers eyes ... then run as fast as u can insha Allah ( make sure u pick up your jilbab as u run :p ) seriously my son had to use this a few weeks back and it works a treat. if they grab your wrist then kick them hard in the shin then use the other arm with the same move

as the old jamican saying goes " he who fight and run away live to fight another day" :coolbro:

Oh my goodness....you guys are dangerous....but it would be so hilarious to see a sister doing all these o.O :wacko:

UkhtAlMuslimeen
06-04-08, 12:42 AM
shes not dumb at all, her dad isnt your dad subhannallah

and yes thai boxing sounds like a good idea as well as a driving licence inshaallah
eerrrmm...it was'nt meant to sound offensive or anything like that. i think kubs knows that.

hanaa_al_muminah
06-04-08, 01:11 AM
alhamdillah u r ok kubs,,,,wat a day hey?.,,,,

i wud jus advice u to read surah nas, falaq and ikhlas(x3 each) and ayatul kursi (x3) and wipe yourself from top to bottom b4 u leave ur house

n once u leave ur home read : bismilliah, tawakaltu alalah,wa la hawla wa la quwata ili lilah'

insha'allah u will b protected!!!!!!!!!!

aalhamdilahh,,works 4 me n everyone i no dat has read it!!!

but mashAllah i hav to congratulate u 4 ur bravery!!

abdellah001
06-04-08, 02:36 AM
salam,

Like above poster said should invoke the protection of Allah as you leave the house, and when in fear, remmeber Allah much..

Reciting part of sura yaseen when tryin to avoid an enemy is recomended,

36.9: And We have made before them a barrier and a barrier behind them, then We have covered them over so that they do not see

some Duas before leaving house
‘O Allaah, I take refuge with You lest I should stray or be led astray, or slip or be tripped, or oppress or be oppressed, or behave foolishly or be treated foolishly.’
http://www.makedua.com/display_dua.php?sectionid=10

angel*
06-04-08, 11:41 AM
:rubeyes: wow kubs! im really glad 2 hear that u got away when you did and now im just very very angry at them chavs! :torture: :rant: people like them are just not worth it hunz, when sum1 starts up with insults- that one can take but the minute they bring Islam into it, walking away just isnt an option anymore..im really proud of you sweets! :love:
but getting them self defence classes aint a bad idea, iv been 2 them many many times and they are just gr8!

Tranquillity
06-04-08, 12:10 PM
May Allah protect all of our sisters and give our brothers the courage to do likewise. ameen!

SD.
06-04-08, 12:24 PM
That's sad; really. The ignorance they displayed. And to top that, they didn't even look British? Someday they'll reflect upon this incident and wonder how stupid they must have looked. Glad you're safe though.

miss-islamic
06-04-08, 03:12 PM
Make wudo. And then tell us what happened. :D

Eemaan
06-04-08, 03:30 PM
Make wudo. And then tell us what happened. :D

she just did on page 2 :smack:

pay attention :D