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bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 10:15 AM
Um,there is an upcomming wedding in my family and so 2 days ago i went and got a sari from Manchester. thing is, i really want to keep my scarf on, because i think its a bit daft when women take their scarfs off just for weddings. therefore my intention is to wear a sari and a scarf together. will this look daft?...and is it hypocritical?:S

ugh
28-03-08, 10:23 AM
try it on infront of a full length mirror?

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 10:25 AM
try it on infront of a full length mirror?

yh thats wah i intend on duwin as soon as i knw how to wear it..buh meanwhile, havnt you seen anyone wearing both a sari and a scarf together?

bint
28-03-08, 10:25 AM
shame it's not segregated you could have worn just a sari. I personally thinkthat it would look odd if u wore a scarf with it.

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 10:27 AM
shame it's not segregated you could have worn just a sari. I personally thinkthat it would look odd if u wore a scarf with it.

it is segregates buh i stil wna wear a scarf.

ugh
28-03-08, 10:30 AM
yh thats wah i intend on duwin as soon as i knw how to wear it..buh meanwhile, havnt you seen anyone wearing both a sari and a scarf together?


never seen the combo personally

Raziel
28-03-08, 10:31 AM
Um,there is an upcomming wedding in my family and so 2 days ago i went and got a sari from Manchester. thing is, i really want to keep my scarf on, because i think its a bit daft when women take their scarfs off just for weddings. therefore my intention is to wear a sari and a scarf together. will this look daft?...and is it hypocritical?:S

Salaam, Ukthi, Wear the Headscarf with a Jilbab, or a Burqa, forget the sarees they attract the attention of the brothers ... as generally the Saree's are very Bright of colour and Glamorous ...

and if you wore one, it would have to cover your whole body with the exception of the face, hands and feet, as a Minimum, you may find this difficult to do with a Saree ...

It is good to hear that there will be Segregation ...

:jkk:

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 10:33 AM
Salaam, Ukthi, Wear the Headscarf with a Jilbab, or a Burqa, forget the sarees they attract the attention of the brothers ... as generally the Saree's are very Bright of colour and Glamorous ...

and if you wore one, it would have to cover your whole body with the exception of the face, hands and feet, as a Minimum, you may find this difficult to do with a Saree ...

It is good to hear that there will be Segregation ...

:jkk:

nah, i wont, its completely segregated...thats why i chose to wear one, but i still want to wear a scarf with it. thats whats the problem.

bint
28-03-08, 10:44 AM
it is segregates buh i stil wna wear a scarf.
oh right..

erm..i would stick to an abayah and sheila

bint
28-03-08, 10:46 AM
I think some people forget that saris can be worn in different ways. The 'blouse' is sewn longer so to cover the belly area. I think they look beautiful..and they are not kuffar clothing cos I see bengalis in bangladesh wearing the same. It's more on the cultural side.

Raziel
28-03-08, 10:47 AM
nah, i wont, its completely segregated...thats why i chose to wear one, but i still want to wear a scarf with it. thats whats the problem.

Ukthi my recommendation to you was and is ...

"Wear the Headscarf with a Jilbab, or a Burqa, forget the sarees they attract the attention of the brothers ... as generally the Saree's are very Bright of colour and Glamorous ...

and if you wore one, it would have to cover your whole body with the exception of the face, hands and feet, as a Minimum, you may find this difficult to do with a Saree ..."

Even if you are in Segregation, surely some brother will see you when you come out of the hall by mistake or deliberately, it is better to wear a Burqa/Jilbab with a Hijab on, then a Saree ...

I hope you understand.

:jkk:

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 10:48 AM
oh right..

erm..i would stick to an abayah and sheila

im 15, and so i want to wear a sari while i stil can, inshallah i intend on starting to wear a jubbo wen i start college.

`asiya
28-03-08, 10:49 AM
wrap the sari so that it covers ur head too this is how we used to wear them in the hindu temple back im my jahilyah days .. but i agree with raziel saris show the shape of the body so u would have to wear a jilbab over it anyway to get to the event. would be a lot less hassle to just wear a jilbab :o

Na'eemah
28-03-08, 10:56 AM
:salams
I worn it once :) long sleeve and top so not showing off anything. Plus u wrap it around u don't have to wrap it tight tight. I found it much more modest than "skirt suits" with short sleeves and then a small scarf on head which my relatives do :smack: every1 said it looked nice and the bride said I looked like a sophisticated Arab lady :rubeyes:

Depending on how you wrap it won't show shape of body, like if u wrap it tight it will. If you let it drape at one end it will be better. I find skirt suits and shalwar kameez to be less modest and very revealing especially how the girls wear it these days. Like slits upto ribs on kameez, shalwar a few inches above ankles and sleeves showing armpits with a tight kameez n low necks :S

If the sari is nice and u get matching scarf it will look fine :D get professional makeup done too :outta: the girls on the table behind me were saying "Oh, I want that sari nowww" :rubeyes: You'll need to try it out once or twice beforehand tho, to see which way suits you best.

So make sure the sari blouse is long as well as the sleeves, should be ok :)

This is how I wore it, but the underskirt on :o then the blouse, then ur scarf then the embroidered skirt n long wrappy thing.


Hope that helps.





and if you wore one, it would have to cover your whole body with the exception of the face, hands and feet, as a Minimum, you may find this difficult to do with a Saree ...

It is good to hear that there will be Segregation ...

:jkk:
It's not difficult, if she gets long sleeves made, a top that covers and doesn't wrap it too tightly. :up: Not all saris show skin.

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 10:58 AM
I worn it once :) long sleeve top and the top was long so not showing off anything. Plus u wrap it around u don't have to wrap it tight tight. I found it much more modest than "skirt suits" with short sleeves and then a small scarf on head which my relatives do :smack: every1 said it looked nice and the bride said I looked like a sophisticated Arab lady :rubeyes:

Depending on how you wrap it won't show shape of body, like if u wrap it tight it will. If you let it drape at one end it will be better. I find skirt suits and shalwar kameez to be less modest and very revealing especially how the girls wear it these days. Like slits upto ribs on kameez, shalwar a few inches above ankles and sleeves showing armpits with a tight kameez n low necks :S

If the sari is nice and u get matching scarf it will look fine :D get professional makeup done to :outta: the girls on the table behind me were saying "Oh, I want that sari nowww" :rubeyes: You'll need to try it out once or twice beforehand tho, to see which way suits you best.

So make sure the sari blouse is long as well as the sleeves, should be ok :)

This is how I wore it, but the underskirt on :o then the blouse, then ur scarf then the embroidered skirt n long wrappy thing.


Hope that helps.

:salams

jazakallah, buh how did you wear your scarf?

Na'eemah
28-03-08, 11:01 AM
jazakallah, buh how did you wear your scarf?

:smack:



This is how I wore it, put the underskirt on :o then the blouse, then ur scarf then the embroidered skirt n long wrappy thing.


Hope that helps.

:salams

Scarf before you wrap the dupatta thingy around so that your scarf is underneath the dupatta thingy in order to let the embroidery on the dupatta to show .

PK Aali
28-03-08, 11:05 AM
:salams

Think about your modesty sister, before wanting wear un-modest clothes.

scribble
28-03-08, 11:07 AM
:salams

Think about your modesty sister, before wanting wear un-modest clothes.

....It doesn't need to be made un-modest.

bint
28-03-08, 11:07 AM
agreed with naeemah

you can wear a sari in different ways and be modest. I dunno where people get that idea from.

Na'eemah
28-03-08, 11:11 AM
agreed with naeemah

you can wear a sari in different ways and be modest. I dunno where people get that idea from.

:up: It's because they have only seen saris worn in un-modest ways :asta:

bint
28-03-08, 11:12 AM
:up: It's because they have only seen saris worn in un-modest ways :asta:

I guess that's true. But having said that many people still refuse to believe it can be modest:rolleyes:

Na'eemah
28-03-08, 11:16 AM
I guess that's true. But having said that many people still refuse to believe it can be modest:rolleyes:

But it's the same with any types of clothes - you can get different lengths, sizes and shapes - same goes for saris. :D
It's down to the wearer how they choose to wear their clothes.

Also where they wear the clothes to and in front of who.

Of course :up:

scribble
28-03-08, 11:18 AM
Also where they wear the clothes to and in front of who.

PK Aali
28-03-08, 11:24 AM
:salams

Up to u, but salwar kameez is more modest, straight up - it doesnt show ur body shape as much...

scribble
28-03-08, 11:30 AM
Not if it's sewn so it's suffocatingly tight. Or if it's see through or any of the other things mentioned by Na'eemah!!!!!! :p

~Warda~
28-03-08, 11:38 AM
Sis, like the other sisters said, wear a long blouse, with long sleeves, and make sure u wear an abaaya to and from the event...and i like sis na'eemah's advise on how to wear the scarf...:up:

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 11:44 AM
Sis, like the other sisters said, wear a long blouse, with long sleeves, and make sure u wear an abaaya to and from the event...and i like sis na'eemah's advise on how to wear the scarf...:up:

jazakallah:up:

PK Aali
28-03-08, 11:48 AM
:salams

Why insist on imitating kuffaar....sari's were first used by Hindus

~Warda~
28-03-08, 11:51 AM
:salams

Why insist on imitating kuffaar....sari's were first used by Hindus

And what about bengali women? Its their culture.

stephenoskie
28-03-08, 12:01 PM
Um,there is an upcomming wedding in my family and so 2 days ago i went and got a sari from Manchester. thing is, i really want to keep my scarf on, because i think its a bit daft when women take their scarfs off just for weddings. therefore my intention is to wear a sari and a scarf together. will this look daft?...and is it hypocritical?:S


If it is segregated then no problem

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 12:21 PM
If it is segregated then no problem

yes but a scarf and sari together can look a bit daft together though somethimes cant it?

stephenoskie
28-03-08, 12:22 PM
yes but a scarf and sari together can look a bit daft together though somethimes cant it?

Not no really

But maybe at a weding prehaps am not sure.

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 12:24 PM
Not no really

But maybe at a weding prehaps am not sure.

Well in that case, il just HAVE to make it look good, eh? :D..
buh jazakallah for your help anyway:up:

stephenoskie
28-03-08, 12:25 PM
Well in that case, il just HAVE to make it look good, eh? :D..
buh jazakallah for your help anyway:up:

deffo

The clothes dont make you, You make the clothes :D

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 12:25 PM
deffo

The clothes dont make you, You make the clothes :D

heheh:D

stephenoskie
28-03-08, 12:26 PM
heheh:D

:up: You will be the prettest gurl at the wedding lol :D

GuCcI
28-03-08, 12:28 PM
SERIOUSLY TAKE MY ADVICE

if u want to wear a hijab and a sari make sure your blouse is one with long sleeves and of thicker material (anything but chiffon or gorgette :p) and you should be fine :up: and you can wear the sari in a way so it covers everything. theres more than one way of wearing it you know. that way ur meeting all requirements and you get to wear a sari :inlove:

i've seen people (older ladies and younger girls) wear saris with covering blouses and they looked great with a matching hijaab :)


oh i just remembered, if you can't get a long blouse then what you should do is get a big matching shawl/pashmina and wear it as a wrap and make sure it goes down past your hips (easy if ur short :o) at least so ur wearing the hijaab, the sari and ur covered :D :hidban: get a pretty colourful pin and pin it on your left shoulder... hmm i wish i could show you a picture so u know how im trying to desribe it :scratch:

stephenoskie
28-03-08, 12:28 PM
SERIOUSLY TAKE MY ADVICE

if u want to wear a hijab and a sari make sure your blouse is one with long sleeves and of thicker material (anything but chiffon or gorgette :p) and you should be fine :up: and you can wear the sari in a way so it covers everything. theres more than one way of wearing it you know. that way ur meeting all requirements and you get to wear a sari :inlove:

i've seen people (older ladies and younger girls) wear saris with covering blouses and they looked great with a matching hijaab :)

Good advice my gawjus sis :inlove:

GuCcI
28-03-08, 12:31 PM
Good advice my gawjus sis :inlove:

i added more luv :p

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 12:38 PM
SERIOUSLY TAKE MY ADVICE

if u want to wear a hijab and a sari make sure your blouse is one with long sleeves and of thicker material (anything but chiffon or gorgette :p) and you should be fine :up: and you can wear the sari in a way so it covers everything. theres more than one way of wearing it you know. that way ur meeting all requirements and you get to wear a sari :inlove:

i've seen people (older ladies and younger girls) wear saris with covering blouses and they looked great with a matching hijaab :)


oh i just remembered, if you can't get a long blouse then what you should do is get a big matching shawl/pashmina and wear it as a wrap and make sure it goes down past your hips (easy if ur short :o) at least so ur wearing the hijaab, the sari and ur covered :D :hidban: get a pretty colourful pin and pin it on your left shoulder... hmm i wish i could show you a picture so u know how im trying to desribe it :scratch:

dont worry, i understand. And im far from short(5ft 10) :S so il have a bit of a dilemma there:S...buh im sure i'll manage..jazakallah for your help....:up:

ze leetle elper
28-03-08, 12:41 PM
I've seen the sari/scarf combo and it looks great mashaallah. Just wear a square or rectangle scarf, and not too much fabric on the head...and make sure the colour is matching, not a shade lighter or darker or it will look odd :p Hope the wedding goes well iA! :)

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 12:45 PM
I've seen the sari/scarf combo and it looks great mashaallah. Just wear a square or rectangle scarf, and not too much fabric on the head...and make sure the colour is matching, not a shade lighter or darker or it will look odd :p Hope the wedding goes well iA! :)

yeah inshallah i hope it does...its my uncles wedding, hes marrying sum1 on this forum called 'aurorascopic' :D...how will i tie my scarf though?

`asiya
28-03-08, 12:46 PM
And what about bengali women? Its their culture.

its not bengali culture sis , bengal was a part of india until the brits divided it up into sections with muslims and hindus elsewhere. the muslims went into india and settled, and some of them started to immitate the dress and ways of some even put this mushrik culture above an islamic way of life , the mushrik have been wearing these saris for more than 5000 years, it is a dress known only to them, we even have a hadith from rasoolAllah that states

The Prophet said: "I have nothing to do with any Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen." (Sunan Abi Dawood (2274) & is a Sahih hadith, al-Irwaa', 5/30)


The Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhe wassallam) said, "I am not responsible for any Muslim who stays among polytheists." They asked: 'Why, Apostle of Allah?' He said: 'Their fires should not be visible to one another', and he (sallallahu aleyhi wa salam) said, "Whoever joins the polytheists and lives with them then he is like them" and he ( salAllahu alleyhi wa salam ) said: "Migration will not end until repentance ends, and repentance will not end until the sun rises in the West."

("Al-Musnad", Vol.4/99, Abu Dawud, Kitab al-Jihad, Vol.3/7, Hadith 2479, and ad-Darami, Kitab as-Siyyar, Vol.2/239. Albani classifies it as Sahih. See: "Sahih al-Ja'mi' as-Sagheer", Vol.6/186, Hadith 7346)

"Whoever resembles a people is one of them." (sahih Abu Dawud)

and we can see why when we see how many practises ( not just dress) that the muslims have taken from the mushrikeen and now they call it their own culture.

GuCcI
28-03-08, 12:47 PM
yeah inshallah i hope it does...its my uncles wedding, hes marrying sum1 on this forum called 'aurorascopic' :D...how will i tie my scarf though?

:inlove:

u'll tie it with pins :p wear a rectangle one that just wraps around - it'll look better. i think 3 pins max.

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 12:51 PM
:inlove:

u'll tie it with pins :p wear a rectangle one that just wraps around - it'll look better. i think 3 pins max.





Right....Im sorted...Seriously everyone Jazakallah for your help......:up::D:inlove:

GuCcI
28-03-08, 12:52 PM
Right....Im sorted...Seriously everyone Jazakallah for your help......:up::D:inlove:

theres still 3 months for the wedding

:smack:

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 12:56 PM
[QUOTE=GuCcI;2500076]theres still 3 months for the wedding

QUOTE]

???? why the :smack: ?

~Warda~
28-03-08, 01:28 PM
its not bengali culture sis , bengal was a part of india until the brits divided it up into sections with muslims and hindus elsewhere. the muslims went into india and settled, and some of them started to immitate the dress and ways of some even put this mushrik culture above an islamic way of life , the mushrik have been wearing these saris for more than 5000 years, it is a dress known only to them, we even have a hadith from rasoolAllah that states

The Prophet said: "I have nothing to do with any Muslim who settles among the mushrikeen." (Sunan Abi Dawood (2274) & is a Sahih hadith, al-Irwaa', 5/30)


The Prophet (sallallahu 'alayhe wassallam) said, "I am not responsible for any Muslim who stays among polytheists." They asked: 'Why, Apostle of Allah?' He said: 'Their fires should not be visible to one another', and he (sallallahu aleyhi wa salam) said, "Whoever joins the polytheists and lives with them then he is like them" and he ( salAllahu alleyhi wa salam ) said: "Migration will not end until repentance ends, and repentance will not end until the sun rises in the West."

("Al-Musnad", Vol.4/99, Abu Dawud, Kitab al-Jihad, Vol.3/7, Hadith 2479, and ad-Darami, Kitab as-Siyyar, Vol.2/239. Albani classifies it as Sahih. See: "Sahih al-Ja'mi' as-Sagheer", Vol.6/186, Hadith 7346)

"Whoever resembles a people is one of them." (sahih Abu Dawud)

and we can see why when we see how many practises ( not just dress) that the muslims have taken from the mushrikeen and now they call it their own culture.

So does that mean we shouldnt wear saris?:(
I mean, were not wearing it to immitate the hindus, we're wearing it coz it looks nice...and sis, yeah i know bengladesh was a part of india before 1947 but muslims used to live there from before...and if muslims hadn' migrated to india and settled down, then Islam wouldnt have spread, and some of us would probably still be hindu. So basically, our ancestors were hindu at some point, which is why we have so much of the culture. Sure, some people put this culture above islam, which is totally wrong, but something like wearing a sari...I mean, Islam itself is not a culture, there isnt any specified dresses muslim women should wear is there? As long as we are properly covered.. oh me is confused now :S lol
But :jkk: for posting the ahaadeeth sis :)

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 01:32 PM
So does that mean we shouldnt wear saris?:(
I mean, were not wearing it to immitate the hindus, we're wearing it coz it looks nice...and sis, yeah i know bengladesh was a part of india before 1947 but muslims used to live there from before...and if muslims hadn' migrated to india and settled down, then Islam wouldnt have spread, and some of us would probably still be hindu. So basically, our ancestors were hindu at some point, which is why we have so much of the culture. Sure, some people put this culture above islam, which is totally wrong, but something like wearing a sari...I mean, Islam itself is not a culture, there isnt any specified dresses muslim women should wear is there? As long as we are properly covered.. oh me is confused now :S lol
But :jkk: for posting the ahaadeeth sis :)

i think that if you have the right intention, which is to wear it to look nice for yourself and your husband....and have clear intention that you are not copying the hindus, i think its fine. But thats just my verdict.... but if we do wear saris, we cant wear them the hindu way, which is showing off our bellys and backs and arms....i think its fine wearing saris as long as you wear them right. hindus wear shalwar kameezes too...we wear them aswell...

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 02:10 PM
it is segregates buh i stil wna wear a scarf.

Dear sister,

I don't see what the issue is then?

Why should you wear hijaab infront of fellow sisters? it's kind of rude on them.

In many islamic weddings in the gulf countries they wear the abaya and sheyla (loosely wrapped but fully covered head scarf) outside and once they are in the comfort of a women's only venue they remove these to enjoy the women only atmosphere and do what women do in weddings.

wearing your hijaab with women is abit contradictory...and it would be like you're looking down on other hijaabis who took it off in the hall.

This is the whole point of segregation in Islam, so you can be free to enjoy yourselves and feel good about yourself (hair style etc) without the hijaab with women.

People who are saying sari is immodest- please don't be such ignorant fools and narrow minded, you do NOT have to show your stomach (awrah), as sari can be wrapped in many ways and also the blouse can be made longer. in addition, the wedding this sis is going to is FULLY SEGREGATED (inshallah I hope it will be like this) so there is no issue with wearing a sari amongst women if it doesnt show the awrah

Sister I hope you choose to enjoy yourself in the halaal manner, you should be glad the people are keeping it segregated so you CAN enjoy it without hijaab. They've probably gone to alot of effort as it is so hard in UK to have segregated weddings, so don't make them look silly by keeping a headcarf :s

Also, I guess it depends whose wedding it is, if it's not a close one then its not so important, also I dunno if I'd trust the people :nervous: but if it is a close family wedding you can trust they will keep it segregated, also, if the bride is in Hijaab then I'm sure she's gonna make sure hall is 100% segregated for her OWN sake, nevermind the guests. so yeah, it depends whose wedding it is aswell.

Sari and hijaab don't go :\ sorry

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 02:14 PM
i think that if you have the right intention, which is to wear it to look nice for yourself and your husband....and have clear intention that you are not copying the hindus, i think its fine. But thats just my verdict.... but if we do wear saris, we cant wear them the hindu way, which is showing off our bellys and backs and arms....i think its fine wearing saris as long as you wear them right. hindus wear shalwar kameezes too...we wear them aswell...

The issue is WHO we wear infront of.

In the quran we are told to cover ourselves infront of non mehrams. So obviously such clothing is haraam infront of non mehrams. BUT things like showing your arms infront of women is allowed, including hair.

the awrah infront of women is between your chest and knees. everything else you can show to other women.


Sister, remember that Hijaab is an obigation upon us muslim women infront of the NON MEHRAMS only:


we are told in the quran

“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons or their sisters' sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.” (Quran 24:31).

Na'eemah
28-03-08, 02:16 PM
:salams

Why insist on imitating kuffaar....sari's were first used by Hindus
Sikh women also wear shalwar kamees :confused: Didn't you say shalwar kamees is more modest? - because as with saris, you can get sahlwar kameez's that are modest and ones that are not modest. Nothing is automatically modest - it depends on the size and shape and colours/patterns, ppl even wear tight Islamic clothing, but just because it is Islamic clothing doesn't make it automatically modest.
Pakistani, Indians, Bangladeshis wear similar types of clothes because it used to be the same country.
Sis, like the other sisters said, wear a long blouse, with long sleeves, and make sure u wear an abaaya to and from the event...and i like sis na'eemah's advise on how to wear the scarf...:up:
:jkk:
Not if it's sewn so it's suffocatingly tight. Or if it's see through or any of the other things mentioned by Na'eemah!!!!!! :p
:jkk: :D My sis is at a wedding and she said the girls are wearing saris :rolleyes: copycats.
If it is segregated then no problem
:insha: But you know bitter sweet - if it is strictly segregated I am sure the bride would be happy if you did not wear scarf, as you will be in the company of only females and it is permitted to take it off in such instances. The bride would not have wanted a segregated wedding if she did not take hijab seriously :o Like wear an abaya and hijab when coming/going in and out of the hall, then when the doors to the ladies section is shut you can take it off if you think hijab does not look good with a sari :outta:

yeah inshallah i hope it does...its my uncles wedding, hes marrying sum1 on this forum called 'aurorascopic' :D...how will i tie my scarf though?
:shock:

Just wrap it and pin it properly.

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 02:19 PM
Sister I have bumped up a thread for you in lifestyle about Abayah

We don't know when our lives will end, or whose perverted prying eyes will stare at our bodies in the street. so don't 'wait' till a certain year to start wearing abayah. You are at a mature age, so inshallah if you believe it is Fardh then you should.

here is the thread

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145119

Inshallah I pray you will wear the abayah soon :) I'm sure it will make your family proud, and also you yourself will feel so much more modest in it when you walk amongst non mehrams

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 02:40 PM
The issue is WHO we wear infront of.

In the quran we are told to cover ourselves infront of non mehrams. So obviously such clothing is haraam infront of non mehrams. BUT things like showing your arms infront of women is allowed, including hair.

the awrah infront of women is between your chest and knees. everything else you can show to other women.


Sister, remember that Hijaab is an obigation upon us muslim women infront of the NON MEHRAMS only:


we are told in the quran

“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons or their sisters' sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.” (Quran 24:31).


i feel naked without my scarf though...:S

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 02:46 PM
i feel naked without my scarf though...:S

infront of men right?

not infront of women??? are you one of those who wears scarf in the house and to bed aswell? :wacko::0:

well whatever it is, you shouldn't, because they are fellow women and I'm sure therell be niqaabis who will uncover, so imagine them! if they can uncover their face in peace and enjoy themselves, you should be able to aswell sis.

I think it's important you discuss this with your family/groom or bride/people involved in wedding because on this forum you're gonna get peoples INDIVIDUAL opinions.

islamic opinion- dont war hijaab infront of women

but if you want advice then speak to the members involved in the wedding because I'm sure they'll have something to say about it. also, don't let anyone tell you its haraam to tke it off because we know this is not true, considering the hall is segregated

ajnabee
28-03-08, 03:12 PM
if that was MY uncles wedding... i seriously would not be wearing hijab if its gnna be 100% segregated... man thats my UNCLE's wedding! u get me? i would be there with bells on.. well.. large earrings!

and scarf and sari tried it once at my mates wedding... although i was covered proper.. it just didnt go! :o

Tranquillity
28-03-08, 04:52 PM
Dear sister,

I don't see what the issue is then?

Why should you wear hijaab infront of fellow sisters? it's kind of rude on them.

In many islamic weddings in the gulf countries they wear the abaya and sheyla (loosely wrapped but fully covered head scarf) outside and once they are in the comfort of a women's only venue they remove these to enjoy the women only atmosphere and do what women do in weddings.

wearing your hijaab with women is abit contradictory...and it would be like you're looking down on other hijaabis who took it off in the hall.

This is the whole point of segregation in Islam, so you can be free to enjoy yourselves and feel good about yourself (hair style etc) without the hijaab with women.

People who are saying sari is immodest- please don't be such ignorant fools and narrow minded, you do NOT have to show your stomach (awrah), as sari can be wrapped in many ways and also the blouse can be made longer. in addition, the wedding this sis is going to is FULLY SEGREGATED (inshallah I hope it will be like this) so there is no issue with wearing a sari amongst women if it doesnt show the awrah

Sister I hope you choose to enjoy yourself in the halaal manner, you should be glad the people are keeping it segregated so you CAN enjoy it without hijaab. They've probably gone to alot of effort as it is so hard in UK to have segregated weddings, so don't make them look silly by keeping a headcarf :s

Also, I guess it depends whose wedding it is, if it's not a close one then its not so important, also I dunno if I'd trust the people :nervous: but if it is a close family wedding you can trust they will keep it segregated, also, if the bride is in Hijaab then I'm sure she's gonna make sure hall is 100% segregated for her OWN sake, nevermind the guests. so yeah, it depends whose wedding it is aswell.

Sari and hijaab don't go :\ sorry

couldn't have said it better myself! Was reading this thread and going :rubeyes:
sis, if you're so concerned about not taking off your scarf in front of other sisters then actually, why dress up at all? If you think it's 'hypocritical' to take your scarf off then surely it's also hypocritical to wear a sari when you don't normally?
i know other sisters who won't take off their scarf in front of women and I understand if this is because they think these women have loose tongues and will talk about their appearance, but other than this i really don't get these sisters. I mean, their life I suppose but personally i cover myself in front of MEN to protect my modesty!

and a sari and a scarf is pretty lame. sorry. draping the end the sari over your head, on the other hand, will make you look fab sis I'm sure! :D

Raziel
28-03-08, 05:17 PM
It's not difficult, if she gets long sleeves made, a top that covers and doesn't wrap it too tightly. :up: Not all saris show skin.


:wswrwb: Ukthi,

I did not say it would be difficult, I said it may be difficult, as you said you have to fiddle around with it to ensure that the entire body is covered, not a single strand of hair is seen, I havent seen any Muslimah who has covered her hair in such a way with a Saree ...

far easier to simply wear a Burqa or a Jilbab ...

but each to his/her own ...

and sister asiya is correct the Saree was worn way before any Muslim started wearing it, although I disagree that a Muslimah cannot wear it, since it is not a Religious Dress ... so long as the Shariah guidelines are followed, ie ...

* its not glamorous

* not transparent

* not tight fitting

* covers the entire body with the exception of the hands & face, although it is better to wear a Niqaab without a doubt,

there should be no problems ...

the Hadiths quoted were in relation to Imimitating the Kuffar in Haram ways, wearing stuff thats part of their Deen etc ...

otherwise we will have to state that all Kuffar inventions even though they are not part of their Religion and do not contradict the Quran & Sunnah are Haraam, I havent heard any Scholar state this ...

and Allah Ta'ala knows Best ...

what is Good is from Allah Ta'ala and what is Ba'atil if from myself and the shaytaan ...

May Allah Ta'ala increase us in Knowledge and Wisdom, and help us all succeed in the Dunya and the Akhira,

:jkk:

ze leetle elper
28-03-08, 05:19 PM
Just to mention that the query is in regard to a segregated wedding so it is not necessary for only hands and face to show, and the dress can be fancy and glittery and have christmas lights flashing on it if the sister wants.

In regards to wearing the sari as normal everyday dess outside then yes the above is applicable.

Sorry if it sounds obvious, just that there are some young users here who may get confused as to what the post was relating to.

ajnabee
28-03-08, 05:34 PM
Just to mention that the query is in regard to a segregated wedding so it is not necessary for only hands and face to show, and the dress can be fancy and glittery and have christmas lights flashing on it if the sister wants.

In regards to wearing the sari as normal everyday dess outside then yes the above is applicable.

Sorry if it sounds obvious, just that there are some young users here who may get confused as to what the post was relating to.


jazakillah khair for that... lets not get side tracked and REMEMBER its a segregated wedding! the rules of hijab dnt apply if there aint gonna be any men around!


lol @ xmas lights!

Raziel
28-03-08, 05:34 PM
Just to mention that the query is in regard to a segregated wedding so it is not necessary for only hands and face to show, and the dress can be fancy and glittery and have christmas lights flashing on it if the sister wants.

In regards to wearing the sari as normal everyday dess outside then yes the above is applicable.

Sorry if it sounds obvious, just that there are some young users here who may get confused as to what the post was relating to.

and when the sister comes out it'll be visible to the AKhi's ...

and virtually every "segregated" wedding ends us being mixed cause the AKhi's don't stick to their Own Section ... :buttkick:

:jkk:

angel*
28-03-08, 05:36 PM
ive seen a lady wear the sari and a carf b4 and it looked really nice i guess it all depends on how u wear it, i wore a sari at a cousins wedding about 2 weeks ago it was a segregated bash so i didnt wear the scarf but there were 2 sisters who did and mashallah they looked stunning1 just make sure u try on a few diffrent ways of wearing it at home b4 going out! :up: good luck!

ajnabee
28-03-08, 05:37 PM
and when the sister comes out it'll be visible to the AKhi's ...

and virtually every "segregated" wedding ends us being mixed cause the AKhi's don't stick to their Own Section ... :buttkick:

:jkk:


oh come on... us ladies know what is required of us in terms of hijab... we do it everyday! obviously if the sister is gonna leave the hall, she knows to observe hijab... its not something that needs to be told... its second nature to us akhi.

besides, i am pretty confident this wedding is guaranteed to be segregated!

jus'me
28-03-08, 05:41 PM
Sari and Scarf can go pretty well together...i generally tend to wear the sari with just draping it across the shoulder once and bringing it arnd (thereby covering arm,) and wear the scarf as u would normally, pin it to the top, mayb use something thts not as big but still drapes across bosom n covers neck etc...but reckon advice given abt Jilb. should be taken on board..as u say it is segregated tho not entirely...

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 05:46 PM
..as u say it is segregated tho not entirely...

where did she say it's not segregated entirely?

She also mentioned it's the wedding of one of ummah forums users, doubt it's going to be a sham-segregation

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 05:48 PM
it is segregates buh i stil wna wear a scarf.

nah, i wont, its completely segregated...thats why i chose to wear one, but i still want to wear a scarf with it. thats whats the problem.

hmm I'm confused. she says its completely segregated, this is why she chose to wear a sari. Because, if it wasn't segregated she wouldn't wear sari.

so..whats the issue with scarf ??? If you went as far as deciding to wear a sari (because of segregation) then scarf is a minor thing infront of women. It'll be an oppertunity to do your hair/jewellery etc and feel comfortable without men staring

ajnabee
28-03-08, 05:50 PM
hmm I'm confused. she says its completely segregated, this is why she chose to wear a sari. Because, if it wasn't segregated she wouldn't wear sari.

so..whats the issue with scarf ??? If you went as far as deciding to wear a sari (because of segregation) then scarf is a minor thing infront of women. It'll be an oppertunity to do your hair/jewellery etc and feel comfortable without men staring

i with u on this one! if ur gonna wear sari anyway......

jus'me
28-03-08, 05:51 PM
oops! sorry missed a bit!..:o

if its entirely segregated then i shouldnt worry!..just wear a small scarf, somthing tht wraps around neatly..wear matching bangles too! :inlove::o

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 05:53 PM
oops! sorry missed a bit!..:o

if its entirely segregated then i shouldnt worry!..just wear a small scarf, somthing tht wraps around neatly..wear matching bangles too! :inlove::o

what's with the wear scarf advice lol

seriously, if it's segregated then let it all out and enjoy yourself

in UK women have so few oppertunities for 'womens only' events and I think it's a shame for them.

This sis is so lucky that her uncle is having a proper segregated wedding- she should seriously make the most of it! you dont get many oppertunities like this, and she says she young, so definitly make the most of this oppertunity at this time of your life!

Raziel
28-03-08, 05:55 PM
oh come on... us ladies know what is required of us in terms of hijab... we do it everyday! obviously if the sister is gonna leave the hall, she knows to observe hijab... its not something that needs to be told... its second nature to us akhi.

besides, i am pretty confident this wedding is guaranteed to be segregated!

Ukthi I think you Misunderstood me, :o

I said if the Sis's do this ... "Show their Hair, Hands Face etc, and the dress can be fancy and glittery and have Christmas lights flashing on it if the sister wants."

when they come out surely it will attract the brothers attention, unless every single one of them changes to a Hijab/Jilbab/Burqa just before coming out ...

I've been to dozens of weddings, havent seen a Single one where this happened, Ukthi's openly displayed their jewelry, glitter, and their Bright eye catching dresses to the Bro's when they come out of the wedding hall ...

very few actually adhere to the Hijab/Jilbab ... the situation with the bro's is also bad ...

:jkk:

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 05:57 PM
Ukthi I think you Misunderstood me, :o

I said if the Sis's do this ... "Show their Hair, Hands Face etc, and the dress can be fancy and glittery and have Christmas lights flashing on it if the sister wants."

when they come out surely it will attract the brothers attention, unless every single one of them changes to a Hijab/Jilbab/Burqa just before coming out ...

I've been to dozens of weddings, havent seen a Single one where this happened, Ukthi's openly displayed their jewelry, glitter, and their Bright eye catching dresses to the Bro's when they come out of the wedding hall ...

very few actually adhere to the Hijab/Jilbab ... the situation with the bro's is also bad ...

:jkk:

The advice is, well what I said and what I've witnessed in islamically segregated weddings

women wear abaya and sheyla (a loose headscarf but covering all hair) when they are outside. as soon as they enter, they whip it all off, and when they leave, they cover themselves up again.

It's upto women if they wish to cover themselves up, as we know, not all women even wear hijaab, so it's upto them.

we're just giving advice that if you want to do this islamically, it is possible. just be sure to wear the hijaab when you leave privacy of women :up:

ajnabee
28-03-08, 06:00 PM
Ukthi I think you Misunderstood me, :o

I said if the Sis's do this ... "Show their Hair, Hands Face etc, and the dress can be fancy and glittery and have Christmas lights flashing on it if the sister wants."

when they come out surely it will attract the brothers attention, unless every single one of them changes to a Hijab/Jilbab/Burqa just before coming out ...

I've been to dozens of weddings, havent seen a Single one where this happened, Ukthi's openly displayed their jewelry, glitter, and their Bright eye catching dresses to the Bro's when they come out of the wedding hall ...

very few actually adhere to the Hijab/Jilbab ... the situation with the bro's is also bad ...

:jkk:


well actually i havent been to many weddings at all really. at weddings i wear my jilbab because i know they wont be completely segregated. which is why if i knew i was going to a wedding that would be 200% segregated man i'd make the most of... heck i really would be wearing xmas lights. though i know i would need to observe hijab before entering the hall and before leaving it. what other people do is up to them.

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 06:02 PM
well actually i havent been to many weddings at all really. at weddings i wear my jilbab because i know they wont be completely segregated. which is why if i knew i was going to a wedding that would be 200% segregated man i'd make the most of... heck i really would be wearing xmas lights. though i know i would need to observe hijab before entering the hall and before leaving it. what other people do is up to them.

LOLLL :rotfl: My point exactly :up:

I will emphasise again- it's important the matter is discussed with family members like the bride/mother/sisters etc and see how serious they are taking the segregation.

ajnabee
28-03-08, 06:04 PM
LOLLL :rotfl: My point exactly :up:

I will emphasise again- it's important the matter is discussed with family members like the bride/mother/sisters etc and see how serious they are taking the segregation.


well i forgot to mention i'd switch off the xmas lights as well before entering and leaving the hall :smack:

jus'me
28-03-08, 06:04 PM
what's with the wear scarf advice lol

seriously, if it's segregated then let it all out and enjoy yourself

in UK women have so few oppertunities for 'womens only' events and I think it's a shame for them.

This sis is so lucky that her uncle is having a proper segregated wedding- she should seriously make the most of it! you dont get many oppertunities like this, and she says she young, so definitly make the most of this oppertunity at this time of your life!


hmm..only coz she wants to wear one!..:o...mayb the sis feels more comfortable with it on..

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 06:09 PM
hmm..only coz she wants to wear one!..:o...mayb the sis feels more comfortable with it on..

This is what's happened to the society though, because there are such few women only gatherings, they are not accustomed to actually freely expressing themselves...even infront of WOMEN!!!

I think it's a great oppertunity for the sister to take advantage of and try it out- especially considering it's her uncle's wedding- I'm saying go for it, everything, go extreme loll (within islamic boundries ofcourse)

also why any women would feel comfortable with hijaab infront of other women...is strange to me O_o did you know in Riyadh there is a shopping mall where one floor is dedicated to women only, women secutiry etc everything, and if a woman is covering her face she will not be allowed in there!!!

It's a basic courtesy to remove hijaab and be free with the sisters if it is a womens onlu environment. especially if you know of it beforehand, so you can make arrangements for covering when you leave hall etc.

jus'me
28-03-08, 06:16 PM
also why any women would feel comfortable with hijaab infront of other women...is strange to me O_o did you know in Riyadh there is a shopping mall where one floor is dedicated to women only, women secutiry etc everything, and if a woman is covering her face she will not be allowed in there!!!


hmm..did not knw tht..thts pretty cool!..yep totally agree with what ur saying but its up to the sister, whateva she feels comfortable in, most imp. thing is to enjoy herself!..

(i want to go to a wedding now..oh the food!..mmm..:o)

angel*
28-03-08, 07:01 PM
Ukthi I think you Misunderstood me, :o

I said if the Sis's do this ... "Show their Hair, Hands Face etc, and the dress can be fancy and glittery and have Christmas lights flashing on it if the sister wants."

when they come out surely it will attract the brothers attention, unless every single one of them changes to a Hijab/Jilbab/Burqa just before coming out ...

I've been to dozens of weddings, havent seen a Single one where this happened, Ukthi's openly displayed their jewelry, glitter, and their Bright eye catching dresses to the Bro's when they come out of the wedding hall ...

very few actually adhere to the Hijab/Jilbab ... the situation with the bro's is also bad ...

:jkk:


:nono: wrong razzy! :smack: in the weddings iv been 2 u enter with ur hijab and jilbaab when u get to the spearate hall u take them off but obviously u
1st make sure urself if it really is 100% segregated, if so wikd if not u keep them on, simple. and when u leave if it was u put ur scarf and jilbaab on and walk out!

mo17.786
28-03-08, 07:06 PM
All That Glitters Is Not Gold
The Path Of Our Old(pious Predecessors) Is Gold!!

`asiya
28-03-08, 07:10 PM
:wswrwb: Ukthi,

I did not say it would be difficult, I said it may be difficult, as you said you have to fiddle around with it to ensure that the entire body is covered, not a single strand of hair is seen, I havent seen any Muslimah who has covered her hair in such a way with a Saree ...

far easier to simply wear a Burqa or a Jilbab ...

but each to his/her own ...

and sister asiya is correct the Saree was worn way before any Muslim started wearing it, although I disagree that a Muslimah cannot wear it, since it is not a Religious Dress ... so long as the Shariah guidelines are followed, ie ...

* its not glamorous

* not transparent

* not tight fitting

* covers the entire body with the exception of the hands & face, although it is better to wear a Niqaab without a doubt,

there should be no problems ...

the Hadiths quoted were in relation to Imimitating the Kuffar in Haram ways, wearing stuff thats part of their Deen etc ...

otherwise we will have to state that all Kuffar inventions even though they are not part of their Religion and do not contradict the Quran & Sunnah are Haraam, I havent heard any Scholar state this ...

and Allah Ta'ala knows Best ...

what is Good is from Allah Ta'ala and what is Ba'atil if from myself and the shaytaan ...

May Allah Ta'ala increase us in Knowledge and Wisdom, and help us all succeed in the Dunya and the Akhira,

:jkk:

sari is a part of their deen akhi, its said to be the dress of "gods wife" in krishnaloka ( what they say is the place of "gods pastimes") audu billah this is why they wear it to immitate radharani and sita ( different incarnations of "gods wife" ) they dress in it, because their scriptures claim that they should immitate gods pastimes and that their god loves beauty and they immitate "gods wife" in their dress, this has been their way for more than 5000 years. also interesting to note that the prophet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam forbade the muslim men to dress in garments dyed with safflower ( an orangey red) which is the known colour of the mushrikeen men and their "monks" the "bramachari`s ". having been a hindu myself i know for certain this is part of the religion, because i started wearing one too as i was advised i should wear it to distingush myself as one of them ... audu billah. hence my dislike of wearing it now.

still not convinced... check this out ...

http://www.dollsofindia.com/product/QH98 < this is said to be "god and his wife" in the heavely planets audu billah..


http://www.radharani.com/radharani.html

GuCcI
28-03-08, 07:20 PM
sari is a part of their deen akhi, its said to be the dress of "gods wife" in krishnaloka ( what they say is the place of "gods pastimes") audu billah this is why they wear it to immitate radharani and sita ( different incarnations of "gods wife" ) they dress in it, because their scriptures claim that they should immitate gods pastimes and that their god loves beauty and they immitate "gods wife" in their dress, this has been their way for more than 5000 years. also interesting to note that the prophet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam forbade the muslim men to dress in garments dyed with safflower ( an orangey red) which is the known colour of the mushrikeen men and their "monks" the "bramachari`s ". having been a hindu myself i know for certain this is part of the religion, because i started wearing one too as i was advised i should wear it to distingush myself as one of them ... audu billah. hence my dislike of it now.

still not convinced... check this out ...

http://www.dollsofindia.com/product/QH98


http://www.radharani.com/radharani.html

sister i know where ur coming from but in that part of the world (bangladesh im speaking of) thats the clothes they wear, not because of religion but it suits the hot climate this is what works for them. the women cant wear skirts because they work in the feilds and 3 peices (skirt, shirt & scarf) doesnt work - its just not practical - but a sari works because its all one peice and can be used to cover the head as well. most clothes worn by ppl in muslim countries are essentially 'invented' by nonmuslims anyway - like jeans... or ugly corduory pants, you know?

i think if certain clothes do their job in meeting all islamic requirements then it shouldnt matter which type of people wore it before - you know? hindu gods are made up anyway :o thats like saying the dresses worn by africans in africa shouldnt be worn because in some nonmuslim african countries its worn too - but wat would they wear? other clothes just arent practical for their lifestyle and environment.

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 07:23 PM
sari is a part of their deen akhi, its said to be the dress of "gods wife" in krishnaloka ( what they say is the place of "gods pastimes") audu billah this is why they wear it to immitate radharani and sita ( different incarnations of "gods wife" ) they dress in it, because their scriptures claim that they should immitate gods pastimes and that their god loves beauty and they immitate "gods wife" in their dress, this has been their way for more than 5000 years. also interesting to note that the prophet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam forbade the muslim men to dress in garments dyed with safflower ( an orangey red) which is the known colour of the mushrikeen men and their "monks" the "bramachari`s ". having been a hindu myself i know for certain this is part of the religion, because i started wearing one too as i was advised i should wear it to distingush myself as one of them ... audu billah. hence my dislike of wearing it now.

still not convinced... check this out ...

http://www.dollsofindia.com/product/QH98 < this is said to be "god and his wife" in the heavely planets audu billah..


http://www.radharani.com/radharani.html

iv decided to get the sari sewn into a long dress instead...

ajnabee
28-03-08, 07:27 PM
iv decided to get the sari sewn into a long dress instead...


after aaaaallll the heated debate... :rolleyes: u decide not to wear the blinkin sari!

GuCcI
28-03-08, 07:29 PM
after aaaaallll the heated debate... :rolleyes: u decide not to wear the blinkin sari!

i know eh... :rolleyes:


kids these days :rolleyes:

~Warda~
28-03-08, 07:32 PM
:up:iv decided to get the sari sewn into a long dress instead...

lol, whatever u think best sister.

bitter_sweet
28-03-08, 07:34 PM
sorry!!!!:s

buh jazakallah for all your help anyway!:up:

angel*
28-03-08, 07:36 PM
loooool in the past iv had my sari's turned in2 shalwar kameez after having worn them once or twice max. :D they look gr8 and no1 can tell it was a sari so u can wear it again! :D

GuCcI
28-03-08, 07:44 PM
loooool in the past iv had my sari's turned in2 shalwar kameez after having worn them once or twice max. :D they look gr8 and no1 can tell it was a sari so u can wear it again! :D

yeah it really doesnt look bad if its the right fabric and done right. better than leaving loads of unworn saris tucked away in the closet (my mom :rolleyes:)

angel*
28-03-08, 07:45 PM
yeah it really doesnt look bad if its the right fabric and done right. better than leaving loads of unworn saris tucked away in the closet (my mom :rolleyes:)

mine 2! :rotfl: :rotfl:

Kasim2k7
28-03-08, 07:48 PM
I dont like sari at all. I told my wife if you wear sari im walking out lol im sure she knows

ummbilal
28-03-08, 07:48 PM
mubaraks on the wedding of your bro xxxxxxxxx

you are getting an awsome sis in law .

May Allah put love between you all .

sari and head scarf..i dunno i'm english i think hijaab looks best with jilbab.

GuCcI
28-03-08, 07:49 PM
I dont like sari at all. I told my wife if you wear sari im walking out lol im sure she knows

really? there are men crave to see their wives in sari... if worn right it can be quite attractive
:outta:

Kasim2k7
28-03-08, 07:52 PM
really? there are men crave to see their wives in sari... if worn right it can be quite attractive
:outta:

Dont like it from the start. I dont know why. There are different types of sari too i believe

ummbilal
28-03-08, 07:53 PM
iv decided to get the sari sewn into a long dress instead...

Allhumdulilah, inshaallah this is better for you sister x

GuCcI
28-03-08, 07:53 PM
Dont like it from the start. I dont know why. There are different types of sari too i believe

yeah, maybe u saw the ugly kind :scratch:

Kasim2k7
28-03-08, 07:56 PM
yeah, maybe u saw the ugly kind :scratch:

Think thats what it is. Ill tell my wife to get the sari book out. Ima buy one lol *outta*

angel*
28-03-08, 07:57 PM
yeah, maybe u saw the ugly kind :scratch:

ha ha class! i thought that when i 1st saw the comment!!!

'he's seen an ugly sari tsk tsk' :outta:


Think thats what it is. Ill tell my wife to get the sari book out. Ima buy one lol *outta*

she gonna lub u 4 dat :up:

GuCcI
28-03-08, 08:02 PM
she gonna lub u 4 dat :up:

yeah i hope it goes well. getting a man to sari shop can be a disaster - no joke :rubeyes:

brother, maybe you should just take her :p

important tip - use your bargaining skills :up:

angel*
28-03-08, 08:11 PM
Guccis got sum safe advice akhi 'dont; try and buy one urself take her ! :outta:

Kasim2k7
28-03-08, 08:21 PM
of course ill take her. when i buy something for her, she takes 100 faults lol

RoadWarrior
28-03-08, 08:25 PM
iv decided to get the sari sewn into a long dress instead...

after allllll that explaining and pages upon pages of advice loll :rotfl:

But you know what...you came out with the best ideA!!! so mashalah, I hope the dress turns out fantastic and that you and your family enjoy the wedding.

I dunno why but long dresses tend to look more elegant if they're flowy and not butt tight (I think it looks cheap like that)

so in essence, it'll end up being like a fancy abayah :up:

Jade
28-03-08, 08:32 PM
You can mix sari wiv hijab! My best friend's sis look sooooo stunning :shock: mashallah!!!! I went to her bro wedding and she wore a lovely azure blue sari with matching hijab. Don't wear heavy sacrf (pashmina style). The best one is rectangle or triangle style. You can try differents ways and see if they works or not! Im sure you will look gorgeous as my best mate sis look! Mashallah!!! If it doesnt work then wear hijab in front of non mahram relative then when your in segraged room take off your scarf in front of women. Or even you wrap scarf around loosely on you if you're not comfortable taking it off. Sorry i am no expert but i hope it is useful for you in some ways :o Good luck and congrats and let me know what happens! Allah bless u!

Jade
28-03-08, 08:34 PM
Posted by bitter_sweet
iv decided to get the sari sewn into a long dress instead...

I didnt read that part! Sorry ignore my other advice!

bitter_sweet
29-03-08, 09:49 AM
Posted by bitter_sweet
iv decided to get the sari sewn into a long dress instead...

I didnt read that part! Sorry ignore my other advice!

actualllyyyyyyy... i may ust keep it as a sari now:D....Im not so sure...i cant make up my mind!...and jazakallah for the advice Jade :up:

RoadWarrior
29-03-08, 12:51 PM
actualllyyyyyyy... i may ust keep it as a sari now:D....Im not so sure...i cant make up my mind!...and jazakallah for the advice Jade :up:

Teenagers :smack: loll

you know what, just let us know after the wedding what you decided on :)

But I have to admit, making a sari into a long dress does seem quite elegant kind of like western (because of long flowy dress idea) but asian (because you'll have sari material)

You'll definitly be wearing something completely different, I don't think many people turn a sari into a gown type dress.

Ebony
29-03-08, 01:37 PM
Never seen a scarf worn with a saree, can possibly look dowdy I think. Depends on how its worn. You can ask some of the guji/bengali hijaabi women on here how they do it

Raziel
29-03-08, 04:04 PM
well actually i havent been to many weddings at all really. at weddings i wear my jilbab because i know they wont be completely segregated. which is why if i knew i was going to a wedding that would be 200% segregated man i'd make the most of... heck i really would be wearing xmas lights. though i know i would need to observe hijab before entering the hall and before leaving it. what other people do is up to them.

Christmas Lights are from the Pagan Festival of Sun God worshipers, so you'll have to find some other alternative ukthi ...

:jkk:

ajnabee
29-03-08, 04:11 PM
Christmas Lights are from the Pagan Festival of Sun God worshipers, so you'll have to find some other alternative ukthi ...

:jkk:


erm.... :idea: *ping* how about flower fairy string lights?

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/3/3/0/2/9/webimg/46329813_tp.jpg

bitter_sweet
29-03-08, 04:21 PM
erm.... :idea: *ping* how about flower fairy string lights?

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/3/3/0/2/9/webimg/46329813_tp.jpg

looolllll :D

ajnabee
29-03-08, 04:26 PM
looolllll :D


ahhhh they sooo pwetty. i want some. i really really want some. *checks if they have on/off switch*

Kasim2k7
29-03-08, 04:28 PM
So a jilbaab is a long coat kinda thing yeah?

ajnabee
29-03-08, 04:30 PM
So a jilbaab is a long coat kinda thing yeah?


the answer to that would be a "not really" kinda thing

ajnabee
29-03-08, 04:32 PM
check my sig for pics of jilbabs

Kasim2k7
29-03-08, 04:33 PM
check my sig for pics of jilbabs

My sigs are off. Cant be bothered lol just describe it

ajnabee
29-03-08, 04:36 PM
My sigs are off. Cant be bothered lol just describe it


its like a long gown typa thing... not really a coat coz its made out of normal fabric... something like this...


>>> http://www.everythingislamic.com/ProdImages/xl_blue_sports_jilbab.jpg

Kasim2k7
29-03-08, 04:40 PM
Yeah i got it. Its a long gown. So is that your everyday dress? In my part, this is not practiced but its good

ajnabee
29-03-08, 04:41 PM
Yeah i got it. Its a long gown. So is that your everyday dress? In my part, this is not practiced but its good


everyday outdoor dress yes.

where is "ur part" if u dnt mind me askin?

Kasim2k7
29-03-08, 04:48 PM
Its punjab pakistan but its my familys fault for not practicing all this. I think its wonderful but you have to be a bit or more religious to practice this stuff.

muslimma
29-03-08, 04:56 PM
Its punjab pakistan but its my familys fault for not practicing all this. I think its wonderful but you have to be a bit or more religious to practice this stuff.

punjab pakistan ...kewl

Kasim2k7
29-03-08, 05:02 PM
punjab pakistan ...kewl

Are you not the same? lol whats so cool about it? Its worse place ever

RoadWarrior
29-03-08, 05:11 PM
Its punjab pakistan but its my familys fault for not practicing all this. I think its wonderful but you have to be a bit or more religious to practice this stuff.

It's got nothing to do with that. It's all about how 'educated' you are in your deen. If you know something is compulsory, you do it, and if that means making a muslim religious well then so be it because that's what muslims should BE. a muslim is smeone who follows ISLAm...Islam is a religion..therefore ALL muslims should be religious, right?

so nothing to do with 'oh only if youre religious you do/wear xyz'

Hijaab is for all muslim women and it is stated in the Quran

Christmas Lights are from the Pagan Festival of Sun God worshipers, so you'll have to find some other alternative ukthi ...

:jkk:

Hmm what about people who use lights for decorations? eg in weddings, they have little lights for decoration, or people use lighting in winter as it gets dark earlier, so they have extra small lights outside

Kasim2k7
29-03-08, 05:16 PM
I know. After that i said its my familys fault.

angel*
29-03-08, 05:27 PM
ahhhh they sooo pwetty. i want some. i really really want some. *checks if they have on/off switch*


:rotfl: :rotfl: plz tell if they do! :rotfl:


Yeah i got it. Its a long gown. So is that your everyday dress? In my part, this is not practiced but its good

Are you not the same? lol whats so cool about it? Its worse place ever


Its what many practsing muslim females wear whenever we go out or are in company - male company cuz u can only show ur hands feet and face when no mahram are present.

im pakistani punjabi and i dont think its the 'worst place ever' its just ........weird :p most punjabi pakistanis wear shalwar kameez all the time so do many of my relatives it was a bit of a shock when they saw me wearing it but allhumdullialh sum of them have started wearing it 2!

Kasim2k7
29-03-08, 05:42 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: plz tell if they do! :rotfl:







Its what many practsing muslim females wear whenever we go out or are in company - male company cuz u can only show ur hands feet and face when no mahram are present.

im pakistani punjabi and i dont think its the 'worst place ever' its just ........weird :p most punjabi pakistanis wear shalwar kameez all the time so do many of my relatives it was a bit of a shock when they saw me wearing it but allhumdullialh sum of them have started wearing it 2!

Yeah its just if one muslim woman starts practicing hijab others makes fuss and talks and all that. Its so typical .

Russo
29-03-08, 09:23 PM
Um,there is an upcomming wedding in my family and so 2 days ago i went and got a sari from Manchester. thing is, i really want to keep my scarf on, because i think its a bit daft when women take their scarfs off just for weddings. therefore my intention is to wear a sari and a scarf together. will this look daft?...and is it hypocritical?:S

Salaam Sis

My sister wore a sari and headscarf when my cousin got married a few years ago. I have seen others do it also at weddings I have attended.

It doesnt look odd at all. Go ahead and do it - why be shy! :-)

Raziel
30-03-08, 12:31 PM
erm.... :idea: *ping* how about flower fairy string lights?

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/3/3/0/2/9/webimg/46329813_tp.jpg

:smack: sis's and their obsession with flowers ... :outta:

:jkk:

Ebony
30-03-08, 12:53 PM
Those flower fairy lights are cute :D

Rie_Maya
30-03-08, 12:55 PM
Salaams

I would just say go witht he flow - if you wanna wear it wear it!

Do you really think anyone will look anymore differently at your combo than when I (White girl) wear Lengha or sari to such occasions...

My personal advice would though be to opt for wearing a skull cap style with a looser scarf on top- IMO - limited as it maybe - looks slightly more in keeping with the style...

Do you intend to keep it on throughout the occaison if it's women only?

Also - am not sure of your own ethnic origin but I know a lot of Idnian and Bengali friends that do the same on such occasions and just as normal attire....

xyz
30-03-08, 12:55 PM
Aye those lights are gorjus :inlove:

As for saris and hijab - aye ive seen loadsa people doing so - its always looked fine.

ajnabee
30-03-08, 04:14 PM
:smack: sis's and their obsession with flowers ... :outta:

:jkk:


akhi u aint seen nothing yet....


check these out... ohhh soooo pwettyyyyyy. :inlove:

http://flowerglow.com/Red%20Rose%20Lights.jpg
http://flowerglow.com/Pink%20Frangipani.jpg

http://flowerglow.com/Purple%20Carnation%20Lights.jpg

http://flowerglow.com/Blue%20Branch%202.jpg


aint they just the most gowgeous things u ever did seen in ur entire life?

i think we need a whole thread dedicated solely to flower fairy lights! :love:

angel*
30-03-08, 07:40 PM
fairy lights! they look realy cute i think im gonna go buy sum, seriously!

Raziel
30-03-08, 09:20 PM
akhi u aint seen nothing yet....


check these out... ohhh soooo pwettyyyyyy. :inlove:

http://flowerglow.com/Red%20Rose%20Lights.jpg
http://flowerglow.com/Pink%20Frangipani.jpg

http://flowerglow.com/Purple%20Carnation%20Lights.jpg

http://flowerglow.com/Blue%20Branch%202.jpg


aint they just the most gowgeous things u ever did seen in ur entire life?

i think we need a whole thread dedicated solely to flower fairy lights! :love:

Aaaaaaaaaaaa , I gotsa admit it they do look pretty :smack: Nooooo ...:outta:

:jkk:

~Warda~
30-03-08, 09:31 PM
akhi u aint seen nothing yet....


check these out... ohhh soooo pwettyyyyyy. :inlove:

http://flowerglow.com/Red%20Rose%20Lights.jpg
http://flowerglow.com/Pink%20Frangipani.jpg

http://flowerglow.com/Purple%20Carnation%20Lights.jpg

http://flowerglow.com/Blue%20Branch%202.jpg


aint they just the most gowgeous things u ever did seen in ur entire life?

i think we need a whole thread dedicated solely to flower fairy lights! :love:


Omg..sis theyre soooo pretty!!! :love:

GuCcI
30-03-08, 09:32 PM
the topic was saris ppl ... which are in fact prettier than flower lights....


ohhh maybe i should have those flower lights on my mehendi eh :inlove: theyre soo pretttyyy :p :love:

ajnabee
30-03-08, 11:46 PM
:smack: sis's and their obsession with flowers ... :outta:

:jkk:

Aaaaaaaaaaaa , I gotsa admit it they do look pretty :smack: Nooooo ...:outta:

:jkk:

yeeeeeeeeesssss! ahem... well well well... now who's the sis hey? :outta:




ohhh maybe i should have those flower lights on my mehendi eh :inlove: theyre soo pretttyyy :p :love:


yay u should sooo do that it would look lovely. have it for ur wedding too.

GuCcI
30-03-08, 11:57 PM
yay u should sooo do that it would look lovely. have it for ur wedding too.

hey yeah they look much cooler than flower candles - now only where to get them :scratch:

ajnabee
31-03-08, 12:05 AM
hey yeah they look much cooler than flower candles - now only where to get them :scratch:


would u not be able to order online? google it or ebay maybe?

GuCcI
31-03-08, 12:26 AM
would u not be able to order online? google it or ebay maybe?

im a touch and buy kinda person :p

aishah_28
04-04-08, 07:26 AM
Over here is common to wear sari with scarf. My mum in law wears her scarf even in saris, even though I find it abit odd. :rolleyes: As nobody in my family does that. As for my sister's mum in law, she drapes the pallu over her head. Her hair is covered wit an inner scarf

Kasim2k7
19-06-08, 08:06 PM
oh i remember this thread lol