Do You Celebrate The Prophet's Day of Birth?

[bint]

Salam question entitled in thread. Could you all refrain from arguing - I'm just gathering some notes. Also can you explain why you would/would not celebrate this day of birth?

Much appreciated, masalamah.Bint

[Arifa]

salam,

no birthday celebration in the secular way because it's not part of islam

[Anikaa]

Heck NO:D

Why?

Simply because there is nothing in the Qur’aan to say that we should celebrate Al-Mawlid, or the birthday of the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam. The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam himself did not do this or command anyone to do it, either during his lifetime or after his death. Indeed, he told us not to exaggerate about him as the Christians had exaggerated about Jesus, peace be upon him. He sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “Do not exaggerate about me as the Christians exaggerated about the son of Maryam. I am only a slave, so call me ‘The slave of Allaah and His Messenger.’” (Bukhaari).

It is proven that the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “Whoever innovates something in this matter of ours (i.e., Islaam), will have it rejected” i.e., it will be thrown back at him. In another Hadeeth, he sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “I advise you to adhere to my Sunnah and the way of the rightly-guided successors (Al-Khulafaa’ Al-Raashidoon) who will come after me, and to cling stubbornly to it. Beware of newly-invented things (in religion), for every newly-invented thing is an innovation and every innovation is a going astray.” These two Ahaadeeth contain a very stern warning against coming up with innovations (Bid’ah) and acting on them. Allaah says in His clear Book that which translates as:

“… And whatever the Messenger has given you – take; and what he has forbidden you – refrain from …” (Al-Hashr: 7).

“… So let those beware who dissent from his [i.e., the Prophets] order, lest trails and affliction strike them, or a painful punishment.” (Al-Noor: 63).

“There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allaah an excellent example for anyone whose hope is in Allaah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allaah often.” (Al-Ahzaab: 21).

“And the first forerunners [in the faith] among the the Muhaajiroon (those who migrated to Madeenah from Makkah) and the Ansaar (the citizens of Madeenah who helped and gave aid to the Muhaajiroun) and those who followed them with good conduct – Allaah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him, and He has prepared for them gardens beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever. That is the great attainment.” (Al-Tawbah: 100).

“… This day, I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favour upon you and have approved for you Islaam as your religion…” (Al-Maa’idah: 3).

There are many other verses from the Qur'aan that convey the same meaning. Innovating things like Al-Mawlid implies that Allaah did not complete the religion for the Muslim nation, and that the Messenger sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam failed to convey to this nation all that he should have done. In fact, it implies that the religion was not completed until these people came along later and innovated in the religion things that Allaah had not permitted, claiming that these were things that would bring them closer to Allaah.

[sapphire_blue]

Salam question entitled in thread. Could you all refrain from arguing - I'm just gathering some notes. Also can you explain why you would/would not celebrate this day of birth?



Here comes salahuldin786 with his looooooooooooooooooonnnggg copy and pastes . . .

[usman3]

Nope, in short, its not something we find in Quran or Sunnah, nor do we find any the Pious Predecessors/ Companions practicing this, so where is the justification?

Also by celebrating the birth we are celebrating the death, because Rasulallah (saw) was born and passed away on the same day. So think twice, that in itself should be a sign for you not to take up haram rituals which are hallmarks of the pagans not the believers. :coolbro:

[Anikaa]

Also by celebrating the birth we are celebrating the death, because Rasulallah (saw) was born and passed away on the same day. So think twice, that in itself should be a sign for you not to take up haram rituals which are hallmarks of the pagans not the believers. :coolbro:

Good point!

[IbnAbdulHakim]

anyway most ulaama have differed on which day he was born, its not strongly affirmed to be 12th rabi ul awwal. also you shouldnt set a day for the mawlid, this is also strongly pointed out by many ulama!

[stephenoskie]

i dont really agree with it

[the_middle_road]

I voted yes.

When I say that I celebrate the Prophet's day of birth, I mean by that a gathering of people where poetry is recited in praise of the Prophet (saw), where lectures are given on his Seerah, and so on. I do not regard the gathering of people as being a bad thing, but I see it as a good thing. So too with poetry being recited in praise of the Prophet (saw). And also with the mentioning of his Seerah. So if these are all good deeds in my view, why shouldn't I engage in it, hoping thereby to receive the pleasure of Allah (swt)? And this is not only done on one day, but happens throughout the month and even outside this month as well. Even were that not so, to specify a certain day for doing a certain action or deed, does not mean that it is restricted to that one day only. This is the thing that I think a lot of people get confused about. They see that people celebrate Mawlood only on one occasion so then they think that those who uphold it believe that his birth should only be celebrated on one day and not on other days of the year, whereas this is not the case. To specify a certain time for a certain action does not mean to limit it to that one time only.

I know people will not agree with this, but really I could care less what other people think. It is the pleasure of Allah (swt) that we all seek, even though we might differ as to how to attain it. I'm quite tired of this Mowlood argument by now so I would appreciate it if people just accept differences of opinion.

[PK Aali]

:salams

what do u mean by CELEBRATE?!

[Omar Mukhtar]

No

http://www.albalagh.net/general/rabi-ul-awwal.shtml

[muslimma]

Nope

[ana_mujahid]

muslims celebrate 2 eids, eid al adha and eid al fitr,
the prophet did not celebrate his birthday, and he did not tell us to
if he did then we would have celebrated his birthday and our birthday

[Fais]

YES!!! :freedom:

But i dont believe in restricting it to a specific day. In my opinion it should be done every day if not every day then every week .. and so on ... without failure.

Khalas.

[Omar Mukhtar]

are you a brelwi fais.

[`asiya]

no i dont because it is biddah, as the daleel posted above by sis anikka and others states. we have been told by Allah and his messenger salAllahu alleyhi wa salam, to only celebrate the two eids, and the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam and his companions radiAllahu anhum did not do any such thing as "birthdays" :up:

[Fais]

are you a brelwi fais.

:rotfl: ...

Naw man .... I been accused of being a wahabi .. and a brelwi .. so i like to think im something inbetween :0:.

The middle path .. :D.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

no i dont because it is biddah, as the daleel posted above by sis anikka and others states. we have been told by Allah and his messenger salAllahu alleyhi wa salam, to only celebrate the two eids, and the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam and his companions radiAllahu anhum did not do any such thing as "birthdays" :up:

are you SURE about that? your saying no scholars think its sunnah such as imam ibn hajar or an-nawari or as-suyuti al qurtubi? none of them?

i dont feel comfy wiv it, but i wouldnt call it a bid'a...

[Fais]

no i dont because it is biddah, as the daleel posted above by sis anikka and others states. we have been told by Allah and his messenger salAllahu alleyhi wa salam, to only celebrate the two eids, and the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam and his companions radiAllahu anhum did not do any such thing as "birthdays" :up:

Hmm ... Yes ... Maybe we should sweep the whole "birthday" thing under than carpet .,.. and just call it .. "Remembering the Prophet Muhummad :saw: .."

I dont mind. :D.

[`asiya]

im 100% sure islam is based upon Quran and sahih sunnah and there are noooooo records of even one of the sahabba doing this during, or after the lifetime of the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam.

anyway dunno why ur all jumpin on my post :rolleyes: why not quote one of the bros above and ask them eh, or is it that sisters are easier targets to pick on :p

anyway our sis asked for no arguments no discussion,

do u celebrate it? or not ? and give ur reasons...khalasssssssss

[Fais]

im 100% sure islam is based upon Quran and sahih sunnah and there are noooooo records of even one of the sahabba doing this during, or after the lifetime of the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam.

anyway dunno why ur all jumpin on my post :rolleyes: why not quote one of the bros above and ask them eh, or is it that sisters are easier targets to pick on :p

anyway our sis asked for no arguments no discussion,

do u celebrate it? or not ? and give ur reasons...khalasssssssss

Everyone entitled to their opinion :up:

I wasn't jumping on your post :rubeyes: ...

Anyways people .. Whateva floats your boat.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

ok sorry i dont celebrate it and find it dodgy

but i wouldnt call it bid'a or shirk, i wouldnt mind quoting a scholar who did say it though and give his reasoning.


a scholars qualified to say it after all right..

[tayfah-mansurah]

fortunately I dont. just came back from mosque, had all these weird decorations saying Milad Mubarak LOL, looked like a wedding took place in there

Salam question entitled in thread. Could you all refrain from arguing - I'm just gathering some notes. Also can you explain why you would/would not celebrate this day of birth?

Much appreciated, masalamah.Bint

[PK Aali]

:salams

do u celebrate it? or not ? and give ur reasons...khalasssssssss

:salams

what do u mean by CELEBRATE?!

[`asiya]

ok sorry i dont celebrate it and find it dodgy

but i wouldnt call it bid'a or shirk, i wouldnt mind quoting a scholar who did say it though and give his reasoning.


a scholars qualified to say it after all right..

http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?pg=article&ln=eng&article_id=95

very long article, but well worth reading :up:

Among the reprehensible innovations that people have invented is the celebration of the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in the month of Rabee’ al-Awwal. They celebrate this occasion in various ways:

Some of them simply make it an occasion to gather and read the story of the Mawlid, then they present speeches and qaseedahs (odes) for this occasion.

Some of them make food and sweets etc., and offer them to the people present.

Some of them hold these celebrations in the mosques, and some of them hold them in their houses.

Some people do not limit themselves to the actions mentioned above; they include in these gatherings haraam and reprehensible things, such as free mixing of men and women, dancing and singing, or committing actions of shirk such as seeking the help of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), calling upon him, seeking his support against their enemies and so on.

Whatever form it takes and whatever the intentions of those who do this are, there is no doubt whatsoever that it is an invented, haraam innovation which was introduced by the Shi’a Faatimids after the three best centuries, in order to corrupt the religion of the Muslims.

The first person to do this after them was the king al-Muzaffar Abu Sa’eed Kawkaboori, the king of Irbil, at the end of the sixth century or the beginning of the seventh century AH, as was mentioned by the historians such as Ibn Khalkaan and others. Abu Shaamah said: the first person to do that in Mosul was Shaykh ‘Umar ibn Muhammad al-Malaa, one of the well-known righteous people. Then the ruler of Irbil and others followed his example.


Al-Haafiz Ibn Katheer said in al-Bidaayah wa’l-Nihaayah (13/137), in his biography of Abu Sa’eed Kazkaboori:

“He used to observe the Mawlid in Rabee’ al-Awwal and hold a huge celebration on that occasion… some of those who were present at the feast of al-Muzaffar on some occasions of the Mawlid said that he used to offer in the feast five thousand grilled heads of sheep, ten thousand chickens and one hundred thousand large dishes, and thirty trays of sweets… he would let the Sufis sing from Zuhr until Fajr, and he himself would dance with them.”

[seven]

if you want to celebrate the prophet's :saw: then celebrate it everyday inshaAllah :up:

and there's no better way to celebrate than to follow his sunnah

[PK Aali]

Will U People Please Stop Ignoring Me?!

[jazzyrebel]

Well NO..I don't...
IF I LOVE OUR PROPHET <SAW> THEN I WUD RATHER TRY TO DO WHAT ALLAH's MESSENGER HAS DONE..:lailah:

[`asiya]

Will U People Please Stop Ignoring Me?!

read this, the link is there for the full article and all will be explained insha Allah :up:

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2500146&postcount=25

[Chained_Water]

Yes, and I'd ditto on the_middle_road, Fais and sevens posts for elaboration. :)

[Cashew]

No, I don't, thank God.

Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (saw) seems to be a perfect way of getting one's head chewed off and stomped on by high-spirited Muslims itching for a brawl.

Were I to become Muslim, I'd almost certainly become an earnestly joyful Muslim or, in other words, an inevitably doomed Muslim.

I'd be the sort of pathetic well-intentioned Muslim who impulsively said things like "Eid mubarak!" or, "Hey, everybody! Let's all meet at my house and celebrate the Prophet's birthday by sharing some tasty snacks, reading a few poems, and studying Qu'ran!"

This would obviously earn me no friends and more than likely invite personal attacks, if not my outright banishment from the Muslim community. Probably even worse.

I'd forever be playing Judy to Islam's Punch.

Until I was finally down for the count, that is.

[Saudi Prince]

I voted yes.

When I say that I celebrate the Prophet's day of birth, I mean by that a gathering of people where poetry is recited in praise of the Prophet (saw), where lectures are given on his Seerah, and so on. I do not regard the gathering of people as being a bad thing, but I see it as a good thing. So too with poetry being recited in praise of the Prophet (saw). And also with the mentioning of his Seerah. So if these are all good deeds in my view, why shouldn't I engage in it, hoping thereby to receive the pleasure of Allah (swt)? And this is not only done on one day, but happens throughout the month and even outside this month as well. Even were that not so, to specify a certain day for doing a certain action or deed, does not mean that it is restricted to that one day only. This is the thing that I think a lot of people get confused about. They see that people celebrate Mawlood only on one occasion so then they think that those who uphold it believe that his birth should only be celebrated on one day and not on other days of the year, whereas this is not the case. To specify a certain time for a certain action does not mean to limit it to that one time only.

I know people will not agree with this, but really I could care less what other people think. It is the pleasure of Allah (swt) that we all seek, even though we might differ as to how to attain it. I'm quite tired of this Mowlood argument by now so I would appreciate it if people just accept differences of opinion.



When you do that, do you look for a reward out of it?

[Saudi Prince]

Hmm ... Yes ... Maybe we should sweep the whole "birthday" thing under than carpet .,.. and just call it .. "Remembering the Prophet Muhummad :saw: .."

I dont mind. :D.

You just follow your own people. That's it!

[Saudi Prince]

Yes, and I'd ditto on the_middle_road, Fais and sevens posts for elaboration. :)

I want to hear your reasons for celebrating it. Please.

[Saudi Prince]

No, I don't, thank God.

Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (saw) seems to be a perfect way of getting one's head chewed off and stomped on by high-spirited Muslims itching for a brawl.

Were I to become Muslim, I'd almost certainly become an earnestly joyful Muslim or, in other words, an inevitably doomed Muslim.

I'd be the sort of pathetic well-intentioned Muslim who impulsively said things like "Eid mubarak!" or, "Hey, everybody! Let's all meet at my house and celebrate the Prophet's birthday by sharing some tasty snacks, reading a few poems, and studying Qu'ran!"

This would obviously earn me no friends and more than likely invite personal attacks, if not my outright banishment from the Muslim community. Probably even worse.

I'd forever be playing Judy to Islam's Punch.

Until I was finally down for the count, that is.


What's stopping you from becoming a Muslim, Cashew? :)

[mo17.786]

no i dont
u dont find netin in quraan n hadith
not the acts of our akaabir n our pious predecessors

[*IslamicGirl*]

:start:

:salams

YES!!! :freedom:

But i dont believe in restricting it to a specific day. In my opinion it should be done every day if not every day then every week .. and so on ... without failure.

Khalas.


spot on akhee

I voted 'yes' not in the conventional sense where i pull aside one day only and sort of host a birthday party :0:

I find the whole month of Rabbi Al-Awal to be exceptionally Blessed and special that it deserves more attention that normal- i'll attend Milad programmes - whoever does them and won't feel bad about going.

In fact i think it's an honour :love:

:wswrwb:

[Eemaan]

YES!!! :freedom:

But i dont believe in restricting it to a specific day. In my opinion it should be done every day if not every day then every week .. and so on ... without failure.

Khalas.

if you want to celebrate the prophet's :saw: then celebrate it everyday inshaAllah :up:

and there's no better way to celebrate than to follow his sunnah

No, I don't, thank God.

Celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (saw) seems to be a perfect way of getting one's head chewed off and stomped on by high-spirited Muslims itching for a brawl.

Were I to become Muslim, I'd almost certainly become an earnestly joyful Muslim or, in other words, an inevitably doomed Muslim.

I'd be the sort of pathetic well-intentioned Muslim who impulsively said things like "Eid mubarak!" or, "Hey, everybody! Let's all meet at my house and celebrate the Prophet's birthday by sharing some tasty snacks, reading a few poems, and studying Qu'ran!"

This would obviously earn me no friends and more than likely invite personal attacks, if not my outright banishment from the Muslim community. Probably even worse.

I'd forever be playing Judy to Islam's Punch.

Until I was finally down for the count, that is.

ditto :smack:

[mizfissy815]

no i dont because it is biddah, as the daleel posted above by sis anikka and others states. we have been told by Allah and his messenger salAllahu alleyhi wa salam, to only celebrate the two eids, and the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam and his companions radiAllahu anhum did not do any such thing as "birthdays" :up:

Ditto.

[Believer1984]

Asalaam

OFCOURSE !

Because of that day , A great child was born with the Gift of guidance for mankind ?

You must be a plum not to celebrate it.

When i mean celebrate , I mean .... smiling and praying and going to the masjid and remembering him.

In our masjid we have little children dressed up and raise flags and sweets are distributed.

Masha-Allah.

I am honoured to celebrate the Prophets birthday.

w.s

[usman3]

From the people who voted YES, do you have any justification from Quran and sunnah, or is it just that you "feel" its the right thing to do?

[bint]

MashaAllah got some great responses. the middle road thnx for ure input.

This is not a debate - I'm just reading into it - and helping myself to some free info :p

Thnx guys. :)

[Believer1984]

From the people who voted YES, do you have any justification from Quran and sunnah, or is it just that you "feel" its the right thing to do?

Asalaam

The Prophet said ... '' You will not attain true Iman , until you love me more then your Parent and Childrens ''

So we will love the Prophet dearly and will not treat the day he was born as any other.

:inlove: Muhammad (saw). Peace be upon him.

Peace be upon Muhammad (saw) also said ... '' You will be amongst those who you love in the after life ''

So we will love him dearly, surely we too want to be along side the most beautiful person created in the after life.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IXDJ01YVX6M

w.s

[Salman Al-Farsi]

Do you celeberate the Prophet's Day of Birth?

NO

Do you observe Meelad an-Nabi?

Yes

There is a problem with the word Celeberate as it involves fun, entertainment and a day of happiness, like celeberating Eid or marriage. If people celeberated the Birth of the Prophet (saw) that would be a complete waste of day and rather stupid.

However, if people use the day to remember Sayeduna Mustafa (saw), on the day of his brith or the month, by doing dhikr and remembering his sunnah, that is a praiseworthy act.

[UkhtAlMuslimeen]

There is a problem with the word Celeberate as it involves fun, entertainment and a day of happiness, like celeberating Eid or marriage. If people celeberated the Birth of the Prophet (saw) that would be a complete waste of day and rather stupid.

However, if people use the day to remember Sayeduna Mustafa (saw), on the day of his brith or the month, by doing dhikr and remembering his sunnah, that is a praiseworthy act.
hhhhmmmm...but do you not remember the prophet :saw: every single day..
when you make wudu..perform salah..fast..give charity....every single aspect of our day to day life..we shall remeber the prophet muhammed :saw: as all our action as muslims revolve round the sunnah of the prophet :saw: and the Qur'an.
why???...because islam is a way of life..not simply a religion.
we should perform dhikr every day ...as much as we can...as we do not know wen we may depart from this donya........

[the_middle_road]

Do you celeberate the Prophet's Day of Birth?

NO

Do you observe Meelad an-Nabi?

Yes

There is a problem with the word Celeberate as it involves fun, entertainment and a day of happiness, like celeberating Eid or marriage. If people celeberated the Birth of the Prophet (saw) that would be a complete waste of day and rather stupid.

However, if people use the day to remember Sayeduna Mustafa (saw), on the day of his brith or the month, by doing dhikr and remembering his sunnah, that is a praiseworthy act.

:up:

[Salman Al-Farsi]

hhhhmmmm...but do you not remember the prophet :saw: every single day..
when you make wudu..perform salah..fast..give charity....every single aspect of our day to day life..we shall remeber the prophet muhammed :saw: as all our action as muslims revolve round the sunnah of the prophet :saw: and the Qur'an.
why???...because islam is a way of life..not simply a religion.
we should perform dhikr every day ...as much as we can...as we do not know wen we may depart from this donya........

JazakAllahu khayr, well said.

The only thing I would add is that it is almost impossible to ignore certain specific dates of the years in the month of Rabiul Awal. Even before the month comes we know it is the month of great significance. Even to those who pretend there is no significance attached to this month actually recognise there is.. by getting ready anti-mild fatwas and fully participating in this debate.

Personally, I am not a very knowledgeable person but for me Rabiul Awal is the month of my master Sayeduna Mohammed (saw), remembering him by studying his noble seerah, making intention and practice to follow more of his sunnah, and follow his beautiful akhlaq and manners. However, some may argue that why must you limit this to rabiul Awal? My answer is we shouldn't as you suggested, however what is wrong with giving every month a special significance, rabiul awal being the month of meelad an-nabi, Ramadhan the month of piety, Dhil Hijjah the month of sacrifice and so on and so forth.

Thats how I view and understand things, if I am wrong, May Allah Ta'ala forgive me and guide me.

[zaki]

Birthday is more of a Chiristian thing, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) never celebrated his birthday, why are we meant to?

Alhamdulillah Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is best of creation and best of Muslims, but remembering the Prophet (pbuh) is always good, but we as Muslims should avoid the Birthdays whether the Prophet (pbuh) or anyone else

[UkhtAlMuslimeen]

JazakAllahu khayr, well said.

The only thing I would add is that it is almost impossible to ignore certain specific dates of the years in the month of Rabiul Awal. Even before the month comes we know it is the month of great significance. Even to those who pretend there is no significance attached to this month actually recognise there is.. by getting ready anti-mild fatwas and fully participating in this debate.

Personally, I am not a very knowledgeable person but for me Rabiul Awal is the month of my master Sayeduna Mohammed (saw), remembering him by studying his noble seerah, making intention and practice to follow more of his sunnah, and follow his beautiful akhlaq and manners. However, some may argue that why must you limit this to rabiul Awal? My answer is we shouldn't as you suggested, however what is wrong with giving every month a special significance, rabiul awal being the month of meelad an-nabi, Ramadhan the month of piety, Dhil Hijjah the month of sacrifice and so on and so forth.

Thats how I view and understand things, if I am wrong, May Allah Ta'ala forgive me and guide me.
:salams
i see what your saying but personally, i dont 'celebrate' the month ...
because are there not 4 months of the year in which we should fast and hasten to increase our good deeds in.
1.Muharam 2.sha'ban 3. ramadan 4. Dhul hijjah
please correct me if im wrong...i feel as if ive mixed up sha'ban with shawal.
basically..what im trying to say Akhy..is that rabi'al awal is not one of those moths. And of course..do perform dhikr...because in the end...it lies with your intention?

[Anikaa]

Just some questions to those who "remember":rolleyes: the beloved on his birth-day:

How would you explain mawlid to a non-muslim? What makes you think you difer from them as they too remember their loved ones who've died on thier birth-days?:rolleyes:

Also, if this is such a righteous thing to do, why didn't the beloved inform his ummah. There's a hadeeth where he actually states, he always would tell his people what is good for them, so they may earn rewards and tell them what is bad for them, so they may save themselves from sin. But this issue of mawlid, has not even been done/mentioned by his sahabaa' [rady'Allahu anhum]. Hence, it is definetly an issue of bid'ah!

[UkhtAlMuslimeen]

Just some questions to those who "remember":rolleyes: the beloved on his birth-day:

How would you explain mawlid to a non-muslim? What makes you think you difer from them as they too remember their loved ones who've died on thier birth-days?:rolleyes:

Also, if this is such a righteous thing to do, why didn't the beloved inform his ummah. There's a hadeeth where he actually states, he always would tell his people what is good for them, so they may earn rewards and tell them what is bad for them, so they may save themselves from sin. But this issue of mawlid, has not even been done mentioned by his sahabaa' [rady'Allahu anhum]. Hence, it is definetly an issue of bid'ah!
:salams
ok, if the prophet :saw: did not say anything and the sahaba did not say nor celebrate this event....wheres the significance?
...is it not an innovation to the deen?
...btw...im refering to those who go to the extreme of celebrating this day...and in some sad cases even phone up their relatives to say 'Eid mubarak!'

[salahuldin786]

yes i dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo ;)


Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah on Mawlid



Background:

The celebration of the birthday of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) is an issue of controversy amongst the scholars. Thus, there were some who considered it a disliked innovation, a few even saying it reached the level of prohibition. And there were others who considered it a praiseworthy innovation. This difference is traced back to a divergence concerning the division of innovation (bid’ah).

Some scholars recognized the validity of such innovations and this was, primarily, the school of Imam Al-Shafi’i (May Allah have mercy upon him) and the head of this thought was Al-’Izzi Adin Abdul Salam (May Allah have mercy upon him). In addition, Imam Al-Qurafi (May Allah have mercy upon him) who was a Maliki, carried this same opinion, giving it great attention and explaining it in an exhaustive manner. In his discussion Al-Qurafi (ra) expanded the concept of innovation to included innovations that were commendable, highly recommended and of an obligatory and disliked nature.

Thus, he divided innovation into five parts: (obligatory, recommended, permissible, disliked and forbidden). However, there were some scholars who failed to accept this division contending that, “Indeed, any innovation, if it appears, then it is repulsive in nature.” They did this by regulating the statement of ‘Umar, regarding the tarawih prayers, “This is a good innovation” to its linguistic meaning. There was a large body of scholars who held this opinion such as Taqi al-Din Ahmad Ibn Taymiyyah, Al-Shatibi, in his book Al-’Itisam, and many scholars from the Maliki and Hanbali schools (may Allah have mercy upon all of them).

Finally, there were scholars who wrote in support of celebrating the Mawlid such as Al-Suyuti (May Allah have mercy upon him) and, at the same time, there were others who wrote against it. Thus, in my opinion, there is no need to drag this discussion out, nor continue to argue about it any longer.

The Ruling:

Indeed, whoever wants to celebrate the Prophet’s (sal Allahu alyahi wa sallam) birthday should celebrate it and avoid doing any action contrary to Islamic Law. In addition, this act should be done with an intention that it is not a sunna nor an obligatory act. If these conditions are observed, and one is careful not to contradict Islamic Law, out of sincere love for the Prophet (Peace and blessing of Allah upon him), then, Allah willing, there is nothing wrong with this action and this person will be rewarded.

Commenting on this, the Shaykh of Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (May Allah have mercy upon him) said, “Indeed, such a person will be rewarded because of his intention.” Likewise, for the one who shuns this celebration, seeking to cling to the sunna out of fear of falling into innovation, then this person will also be rewarded, Allah willing. It is important to note that this is not a big issue. Nor is it necessary to give it more attention then it deserves.

The Methodology

Our attention towards this issue is directed towards uniting the Muslims and curbing these differences. We base this understanding on facilitation (for both sides) and ease. This ease is not founded on an empty premise, but is referenced directly back to the Quran, traditions of the Prophet (sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam), the fundamental objectives of Islamic law, and the order of the Prophet (sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam) to work towards unity between others.

Therefore, if a contentious issue arises pertaining to a matter, we exercise great consideration and respect for both sides. This consideration is not simply an act of being overly accommodative, as some contend, or attacking those who hold weak opinions. But, this respect and consideration for differences is guided by the fact that both opinions are based on proofs from Islamic Law.

In some regards these proofs are clear, and in other regards the opposite holds true. Thus, some (scholars) have provided evidences for these acts legitimacy, and others hold proofs for the opposite. In conclusion, our stance is that both are on goodness, Allah willing, as long as this act is not mixed with some type of evil and the intention is correct.

Allah knows best

Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah (May Allah preserve him)

Remixed by TheTranslators 2007 {Suhaib Webb}

First Seen on Ahl al Hadith

[zaki]

Brothers and sisters, we have been told many many times in theses situations if celebrating the Prophet's birthday was a must, it would of been mentioned in the Quran or the Sunnah, but there is no hadith or verse in the Quran saying we should celebrate it, so we shouldn't be adding to this perfect religion, for everything that isn't apart of this religion is rejected.

Think about it, the Quran and Sunnah show us the way to live our life, wouldn't it be told to celebrate the birthday if thats the case?

[Anikaa]

At the end of the day, if you celebrate mawlid, listen to music, grave worship etc...Just remember:

Kullu Nafsin bimaa' kasabat rahinaa' [al-muddathir]

"Every soul shall be retained for its deeds"

[summer786]

what's scary is how adamant people are in maintaining it. even if they are the strictest muslims otherwise, they won't give this up and refuse to listen to any rational arguments you give them. then you wonder if the strict muslims are acting this way, whats gonna happen to the rest of us?

[salahuldin786]

Celebrating Mawlid un Nabi is not Haram

Why is celebrating Mawlid un Nabi (birthday of Prophet Muhammad) not unlawful or haram? It would only be so if the Quran or Hadith had declared it to be. The simplest answer to this question is that the basic principle of Islamic jurisprudence is that everything is halal unless it is declared haram by the Quran or Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon them). Example: Quran says alcohol, gambling, adultery or murder etc are haram but it did not list everything which is halal - only haram things.

In light of this basic principle of Islamic jurisprudence, the burden of proof is always on the person who is arguing that something is haram and it is never on the person who is arguing that something is halal. All laws are based on this principle including (English and other western law). So the question should be "Where is the light of the Quran and the Hadith is celebrating Mawlid un Nabi (or Milad un Nabi) declared unlawful or haram?"

There is NO Qur'anic verse or hadith which has declared it as unlawful/haram. In fact Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri as delivered numarous lectures giving ample evidence proving the legality of celebrating Mawlid in the light of Qur'an and Hadith. May Allah guide us on the path of his beloved Messenger (peace and blessings



here is one What Is Milad Un Nabi

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-hjJRU10o4&feature=related

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptxEYxehzj8&feature=related

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHNNo_aiSbo&feature=related

part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEDqpeLAbwo&feature=related

part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLsoilsXvlo&feature=related


Our Lord! Accept from us (this duty). Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Nearer, the Knower
2:127

[Omar Mukhtar]

how many more copy pastes you going to post bro salhudeen, i doubt it''ll change peoples to to celebrating milad.

[salahuldin786]

At the end of the day, if you celebrate mawlid, listen to music, grave worship etc...Just remember:

Kullu Nafsin bimaa' kasabat rahinaa' [al-muddathir]

"Every soul shall be retained for its deeds"


subhan allah, insha allah i will be rewarded, have you ever been to a mawlid in your life they dont play music and i think you need to learn about what you accuse other's of, remind yourself and look at your own deed's cuz i aint taking your with me.

[salahuldin786]

how many more copy pastes you going to post bro salhudeen, i doubt it''ll change peoples to to celebrating milad.

bro if they dont want to celebrate it then that's o.k but dont attack people who do, like my self.

[salahuldin786]

At the end of the day, if you celebrate mawlid, listen to music, grave worship etc...Just remember:

Kullu Nafsin bimaa' kasabat rahinaa' [al-muddathir]

"Every soul shall be retained for its deeds"


this one is for you


The Prophet (May Allah send abundant blessings upon him) said: I used to ban you from the visitation of graves, now, visit them. (Bukhari)


Thirteen companions narrate this hadith. From amongst them are: Abu Sa�eed al-Khudri, Ibn Mas�ud and Abu Huraiyrah (May Allah be pleased with them all).


Kattani mentioned that the hadith is Successive �mutawatir�. (Nazm al-Mutanathir p129)


The visitation of graves is recommended for the purposes of remembering death and the hereafter. However, graves of the prophets and pious awliya are places of close means and a great intermediary to Allah (swt). This is not due to the graves themselves; instead it is due to the significance of the body that rests within.


This does not allow people to practice acts contrary to the Islamic norms; which are common in the people of the sub-continent due to their ignorance and lack of knowledge. It is the duty of the scholars to inform the people of permissible and impermissible practices.


The great Muhaddith, Abd al-Haq al-Dehlvi mentions the permissible form of intercession at the graves, who states:


�1-Firstly, the person who makes dua, begs Allah swt and is in need of him alone. The one in need makes the person of the grave an intermediary to Allah swt due to his raised rank and significance. One says: �Oh Allah! For the sake of this person whom you have bestowed your mercy upon, ease my hardship because you alone are the most generous and all giving.


2- Secondly, the person in hardship may also call the wali and ask him to intercede for him for the ease of difficulty.


In both forms of tawassul (intercession), one�s hope is not in the pious, instead the centre of hope is Allah (swt) who will resolve the problems, help in need, and provide the asked-for. The true and absolute benefactor, and authority of change, is Allah swt who is the creator of all existence.�


(As�at al-Lum�at sharh Mishkat 3:401, Fatwa Aziziyah 2:108)


He continues writing:


�If the visitor believes that the pious himself solves difficulty and independently eases hardship with all power to do so, without the reliability on Allah (swt) and dua, which is common in the ignorant as they commit such strongly condemned acts at the graves i.e. kissing the grave, prostrating to the grave, and praying salah towards it, this is unacceptable and the person is subject to punishment. One who knows the religion and has knowledge of the revealed law �alim� cannot practice such traditions.� (Ash�at al-Lim�at 3: 401)


Prostrating to the graves


It is not allowed to prostrate to the grave through veneration. Hence, it is strongly condemned by all scholars, as clearly stated by Imam Ahmed Rada (May Allah be pleased with him) in his book named: �al-Zubdah al-Zakiyyah fi Tahreem sujud al-Tahiyyah�.


The question is whether one is allowed to pray salah in a mosque with a grave. Many Mosques in the Islamic world are with a grave of a Prophet or either a pious.


The Prophet (May Allah send peace and blessings upon him) said: "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians; they have taken the tombs of their Prophets as places of worship." (Bukhari, Ahmed). Though, this hadith may imply the meaning that salah is not allowed in such mosques, Ibn Hajar Haythmi gives the pure meaning of this narration in his words:


�Taking a grave as a place of worship means to pray on the grave or towards it. The impermissibility, however, applies exclusively to the grave of someone respected... under the two conditions:

a) That the grave is of someone who is honoured and esteemed;

b) And that the prayer is performed towards or on the grave with the intention of gaining the blessing of it, or out of reverence for it." (al-Zawajir, Reliance w21)

This is the position of the Hanafi and Shafi`i schools.


Kissing and touching the grave


Though permissible according to some scholars, Imam Ahmed Rada disliked the practice in his Fatawa, in accordance with the soundest position.


He states: �there are diverse opinions amongst the scholars regarding kissing graves. It is an act which lies between two things: something that allows the practice: love and something that disallows it: �adab� respect. Hence, the one who does it through overwhelming love is not criticized because this act is proven from the sahabah. Though, it is better for the general public to be precautious. Our scholars have explicitly stated that one should stand at least four feet away from the grave, so how would one kiss it!?� (Fatwa Ridhwiyah, 9:528)


Allamah Samhudi (Ra) states:


Imam Abdullah asked his father, Ahmed bin Hanbal, whether it was permissible to touch and kiss the pulpit and grave of the Prophet (abundant peace and blessings be upon him), he replied: there is no fear in this act �la ba�sa bihi�. (wafa al-wafa 4:1404)


Imam Subki and Allamah Samhudi both narrate that Marwan (May Allah be pleased with them all) saw a person clinging to the Prophet�s grave (Peace and blessings be upon him). Marwan in anger gripped the throat of that person and shouted: Do you know what you are doing?


The man turned to him and replied �I have come to the Prophet (May Allah bless him) and not to a stone�! (Wafa al-Wafa 4:1359) Allamah Samhudi says: �Ahmed narrated it and said it has a sound chain�.


Sayyiduna Bilal rubbed his face on the Prophet�s grave, which was well known amongst the sahabah. (Hafiz Abd al-Ghani, Khatib bin Hamla, Wafa al-Wafa 4:1356, 1406)


Ibn Umar used to place his right hand on the grave of the Prophet (May Allah send abundant peace and blessings upon him). (Wafa al-Wafa 4:1406)


It is narrated that Ibn Abi Saiyf and Muhibb Tabari allowed kissing the graves of pious �saliheen�. Similarly, it is narrated from Isma�el Timi that whenever al-Minkdar (tabi�i) was afflicted with an illness in his mouth, he used to rub his cheek on the Prophet�s grave. Somebody objected on this practice to which he replied: �I seek cure from this�. (Wafa al-Wafa 4:1406)


Qurtabi mentions the famous narration of the Bedouin who came to the grave of the Prophet (May Allah�s blessings and peace be upon him) and clung to it. This was narrated from Sayyiduna Ali (May Allah be pleased with him) in which he says that the Bedouin poured the dust of the grave over his head. This story, as well as Utbi�s narration, is found in the books of Tafseer of Surah al-Nisa v.64.


Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Fakihi states: �In complete segregation where no laymen stick around, it is recommended to rub the cheek, face and beard on the Prophet�s grave. This act is permissible once done through love and good intention�. (Husn al-Tawassul fi ziyarati afdal al-Rusul. Fatwa Ridhwiyyah 9:531)


Sheikh Abd al-Ghani al-Nabulsi (May Allah be pleased with him) has a whole chapter to the name �Kissing the graves of the pious� in his �Jam al-Asrar fi al-radd ala ta�ini al-sufiya al-akhyar� in which he allows the kissing of the graves with combining evidence.


Allamah Abd al-Haq al-Dehlvi (Ra) states:


�Bayhaqi has a narration which allows kissing parent�s grave, but the correct position is that it is not allowed.� (Madaraj al-Nubuwwah 2:424)


The latter states in Ash�at al-luma�t (1:716):


�One should not touch the grave and neither kiss it�


These were some of the scholar�s statements regarding the topic.


I personally find the position of Imam Ahmad Rada (May Allah be pleased with him) moderate and in between the two opinions.


Sheikh Abd al-Ghani al-Nabulsi states: �where there is a questionable issue that can be marked permissible in any of the madhhabs, it is not a sin to commence that act and neither obligatory to obstruct from it. Though, Impermissible is that sinful act, upon which the scholars have agreed.�


(al-Hadeeqah al-Ndiyyah , al-Nabulsi, 2:309)


Tawaf of the grave


Some scholars have allowed this act, but the correct opinion is that it is not allowed.


It is mentioned in Majmah al-barakat:


�It is permissible for one to make tawaf of the grave 3 times�.


(Fatawa Ridhwiyyah 9:533)



Mullah Ali Qari states:


Tawaf is from the �khasa�is� of the ka�bah, thus, it is not allowed at the graves of the Prophets and pious. (Mansak Mutawassit p342)


Imam Ahmad Rada (May Allah bestow abundant blessing on his grave) also strongly condemned the act.


Qawali at graves


Imam Ahmed Rada (May Allah be pleased with him) disallowed the custom of qawali at the graves of the awliya, especially when there is free-mixing between the two sexes. He strictly condemned the qawali which includes the usage of musical instruments i.e. flutes and drums. Furthermore, all, if not, most qawalis in the sub-continent consist of these instruments.


Slaughtering animals at the grave


Slaughtering animals to send the reward to the dead is permissible. The food is then easily provided to the poor who usually gather at the tomb. Moreover, the practice is not impermissible unless associated with something prohibited i.e. free mixing (though the slaughtered will be halal to consume) and slaughtering in the name other than Allah swt (the slaughtered will not be halal) etc.


If one sees that unlawful acts are committed at the tombs of the awliyah, one should make all efforts by talking to someone responsible through hikmah. Moreover, if one fears that the talk will lead to fitna, one should stay silent. This is only when the visitor is from the general public. If the visitor is from the ulama, it is his duty to confront the responsible people so that the public are informed of the right and wrong practices.


"Whoever of you sees something wrong let him change it with his hand. If unable to, then let him change it with his tongue. If still unable to, then with his heart. And that is the weakest degree of faith."


And Allah alone provides guidance.


Wassalam


Munawwar Ateeq Rizvi

[RashidD]

Even were that not so, to specify a certain day for doing a certain action or deed, does not mean that it is restricted to that one day only. This is the thing that I think a lot of people get confused about. They see that people celebrate Mawlood only on one occasion so then they think that those who uphold it believe that his birth should only be celebrated on one day and not on other days of the year, whereas this is not the case. To specify a certain time for a certain action does not mean to limit it to that one time only.


If that is true then why don't they do it in the same pomp and glory on other days of the year? To me, even if you bring this argument then the niyyah is for mawlid (for the most part) and not for the sake of the amal.

[Kasim2k7]

I think we should celebrate the birthday of prophet Muhammed peace be upon him because in Surah Mariam Allah says about celebrating birthday of Isa a.s.
The way i see it is that if Prophet Muhammed would have not come in this world, we wont even get to celebrate the other 2 eids which your on about. It is Muhammed peace be upon him who told us about Allah that yeah there is actually Allah. Without Muhammed peace be upon him we were in darkness and knew nothing about Allah. So i think this Eid is above the two other Eids.
In that case Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him never had electricity in his house? Why do you choose to have it?
I think there is nothing wrong in a little gathering, making sweet dish, putting up lighting and singing praises to make Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him happy. Inshallah.

[Fais]

Why should i take an unqualified opinion over a quailified opinion?

Imam Al Suyuti, from Alhawi lil fatawi, wrote a special chapter entitled "The Good Intention in Commemorating the Mawlid," at the beginning of which he said,
"There is a question being asked about commemorating the Mawlid of the Prophet in the month of Rabi' Al Awal: what is the religious legal ruling in this regard, is it good or bad? Does the one who celebrates get rewarded or not?" The answer according to me is as follows: To commemorate the Mawlid, which is basically gathering people together, reciting parts of the Qu'ran, narrating stories about the Prophet's birth and the signs that accompanied it, then serving food, and afterwards, departing, is one of the good innovations; and the one who practices it gets rewarded, because it involves venerating the status of the Prophet and expressing joy for his honorable birth.

[zaki]

The Authority Of Aishah: The messenger of Allah (pbuh) said : "He who innovates something in this matter of ours that is not of it will have it rejected."

Reporters.
Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim.

And in one version by Muslim it reads : "He who does an act which our matter is not [in agreement] with will have it rejected."

Source: Hadith Qudsi - Hadith 5

[the_middle_road]

From the people who voted YES, do you have any justification from Quran and sunnah, or is it just that you "feel" its the right thing to do?

Read my initial post to see what I regard "celebrating the birth of the Prophet :saw:" as consisting of. So what is then that you are looking for dalil for? Dalil for singing / listening to poetry in praise of Rasulullah :saw:? Dalil for listening to his Seerah? Dalil for sending Salawaat upon him :saw:? If you look, I'm sure you would find adillah for all of these actions.

[zaki]

I think we should celebrate the birthday of prophet Muhammed peace be upon him because in Surah Mariam Allah says about celebrating birthday of Isa a.s.
The way i see it is that if Prophet Muhammed would have not come in this world, we wont even get to celebrate the other 2 eids which your on about. It is Muhammed peace be upon him who told us about Allah that yeah there is actually Allah. Without Muhammed peace be upon him we were in darkness and knew nothing about Allah. So i think this Eid is above the two other Eids.
In that case Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him never had electricity in his house? Why do you choose to have it?
I think there is nothing wrong in a little gathering, making sweet dish, putting up lighting and singing praises to make Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him happy. Inshallah.

We are only meant to celebrate 2 things... and they are the two Eids,

We dont celebrate the birth or the death of anyone because we are all humans, though Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the best of Muslims, I think that Prophet Muhammad had way better things to do then to celebrate an age, I'm sure that he (pbuh) would be fearing Allah more knowing he is a year nearer than his last "Birthday" Why celebrate a year closer to your death? Are you happy to get older knowing you are more closer to death and returning to Allah than last time?

[Chained_Water]

Ditto on what Salman said too :up:

[Saudi Prince]

Ditto on what Salman said too :up:

Do you have a reason for celebrating it or you just follow others blindly?

[`asiya]

ajeeb how everything in our deen has been covered in detail as salman al farsi told the jew who was mocking him, "there is nothing our prophet has not taught us." Allah ta ala said he has perfected the deen for us.

we have detailed hadiths and ayat about every single thing we are to do as muslims. there is not one single narration that tells us to do anything like what people are calling "mawlid" not one.

not one of the companions practised this during the life of, or after the death of, the prophet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam, it is clearly innovation to do such things.

And as we know this was something introduced after the 3rd generation after the prophet salallahu alleyhi wa salam. and we are to adhere to the deen as taught to us by the prophet salAllahu alleyhi wa salam, and what the next 2 generations after him were upon.

to say that this is something from islam, is to say that Allah ta ala and his messenger salAllahu alleyhi wa salam, left something out of the deen that the companions were not taught. audu billah.

if the prophet salAllahu alelyhi wa salam didnt do it, his companions didnt tell us about this, then khalass, no shia or sufi brelwi or anyone else can come later and tell us this is something from islam.

[zaki]

Think of it this way...
Do you worship Allah only once a year? No we worship Him every day,
Do you celebrate Mother's Day and give thanks to her for one day in the year? No
Do you celebrate Valentine's Day and show your love to your partner for just one day? No
Do we send prayers and Blessings to our Prophet (pbuh) every day in our prayer? Yes

I'd rather make dua or remember our Prophet everyday like we worship Allah everyday, why celebrate one day, isn't Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) important than just one day?

[Ibn Khattab]

There is NO Qur'anic verse or hadith which has declared it as unlawful/haram. In fact Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri as delivered numarous lectures giving ample evidence proving the legality of celebrating Mawlid in the light of Qur'an and Hadith. May Allah guide us on the path of his beloved Messenger (peace and blessings



:rotfl: Sheikhul Islam?

Subhnallah what has this ummah come to man :D

[Phoenix CG]

i laugh at those people trying to give there religious fatwas...if you want to do that, please become a scholar first.

[Chained_Water]

Do you have a reason for celebrating it or you just follow others blindly?
I'm not going to reinvent the wheel and waste my breath when it's already been said quite eloquently by many users, Fais, Salman, the_middle_road and others.

:salams bro

[zaki]

Anyone of you can say what you like about this topic, about Islam in general, BUT if its not apart of the Quran or the Sunnah, then its no important to this religion, it doesn't matter if its the Imam or someone who has knowledge, if you can't provide proof, its worth nothing!

[Saudi Prince]

I'm not going to reinvent the wheel and waste my breath when it's already been said quite eloquently by many users, Fais, Salman, the_middle_road and others.

:salams bro

I didn't get it. Can you explain to me:

When you celebrate it, do you look for a reward?
If yes, do you think the prohet SAAW did not tell us about it?
If you claim so, then give us the verse or thehadith.
Did the sahaba RA did it or a single person in the first 3 righteous generations of this ummah?
If you say yes, then give me one name?
Do you claim to love the prophet SAAW more than the sahaba RA like Abu Baker, Umar, Ali,.....who have defended his SAAW with their lives?

What exactly are you trying to do? Any answer?

[zaki]

I'm really sad that people celebrate the Prophet's Birthday (pbuh)... there is no Hadith or Verse saying we should, its like saying that Allah forgot to tell us something :( Allah as perfected this religion for us to follow! Do not add things to this religion, do not follow anything that isn't apart of the Quran and Sunnah

[Ebony]

Forget when it is until I find out the masjid is holding a majlis or stuffs on the telly :p

[MMS]

lol, i think the biggest issue here is that we all have different definitions of what 'celebrate' means :nuts:

[GuCcI]

lol, i think the biggest issue here is that we all have different definitions of what 'celebrate' means :nuts:

thats wat i was thinking cuz wen those who say celebrate i dont think they mean a party with balloons and cake .... rather wat i saw wat they do back home is a 'milad'...

[Humaira*]

:salams:

No I don't celebrate. Islam has forbidden such things, so how can one think of celebrating prophet's B'day?

[hanifa]

Not the Milad.

Fasting every Monday is good enough for me.

[salahuldin786]

Think of it this way...
Do you worship Allah only once a year? No we worship Him every day,
Do you celebrate Mother's Day and give thanks to her for one day in the year? No
Do you celebrate Valentine's Day and show your love to your partner for just one day? No
Do we send prayers and Blessings to our Prophet (pbuh) every day in our prayer? Yes

I'd rather make dua or remember our Prophet everyday like we worship Allah everyday, why celebrate one day, isn't Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) important than just one day?

yes that is true but our prophet was only born in the month of rabi ul awal and that is the month our lord sent his blessing in to this.

were you born all year round?

[salahuldin786]

We are only meant to celebrate 2 things... and they are the two Eids,

We dont celebrate the birth or the death of anyone because we are all humans, though Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the best of Muslims, I think that Prophet Muhammad had way better things to do then to celebrate an age, I'm sure that he (pbuh) would be fearing Allah more knowing he is a year nearer than his last "Birthday" Why celebrate a year closer to your death? Are you happy to get older knowing you are more closer to death and returning to Allah than last time?



friday is a day of eid too.


and plus your birthday we dont care about because your no one the birth of our beloved was something and we see that today amoung some muslim's.

[salahuldin786]

Sayings of Scholars Concerning Types of Innovation in Islam

As for the claim that there is no such thing in religion as good innovation, here are some sayings of the brilliant scholars of Islam belying this claim.

Imam Nawawi said in Sahih Muslim (6-21), "The Prophet’s (s) saying ‘every innovation’ is a general-particular and it is a reference to most innovations. The linguists say, ‘Innovation is any act done without a previous pattern, and it is of five different kinds.’" Imam Nawawi also said in Tahzeeb al Asma’ wal Sifaat, "Innovation in religious law is to originate anything which did not exist during the time of the Prophet (s), and it is divided into good and bad." He also said, "Al-muhdathat (pl. for muhdatha) is to originate something that has no roots in religious law. In the tradition of religious law it is called innovation, and if it has an origin within the religious law, then it is not innovation. Innovation in religious law is disagreeable, unlike in the language where everything that has been originated without a previous pattern is called innovation regardless of whether it is good or bad."

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani, the commentator on al-Bukhari, said, "Anything that did not exist during the Prophet’s (s) time is called innovation, but some are good while others are not."

Abu Na’eem, narrated from Ibrahim al-Junaid, said, "I heard Ash-Shafi`i saying, ‘Innovation is of two types: praiseworthy innovation and blameworthy innovation, and anything that disagrees with the Sunnah is blameworthy.’"

Imam al Bayhaqi narrated in Manaqib Ash-Shafi`i that he said, "Innovations are of two types: that which contradicts the Qur’an, the Sunnah, or unanimous agreement of the Muslims is an innovation of deception, while a good innovation does not contradict any of these things."

Sultan al-`ulama, Al `Izz bin Abdus Salam said, at the end of his book, Al Qawa’id, "Innovation is divided into obligatory, forbidden, recommended, disagreeable and permissible, and the way to know which is which is to match it against the religious law."

Clearly we see from the opinions of these righteous scholars, that to define innovations in worship as wholly negative without exception is ignorant. For these pious knowers, among them Imam Nawawi and Ash-Shafi`i, declared that innovations could be divided into good and bad, based on their compliance with or deviance from religious law.

Moreover, the following Prophetic saying as stated in Sahih Muslim is known even to common Muslims, let alone scholars: "He who inaugurates a good practice (sanna fil-Islam sunnatun hasana) in Islam earns the reward of it, and of all who perform it after him, without diminishing their own rewards in the least." Therefore, it is permissible for a Muslim to originate a good practice, even if the Prophet (s) didn’t do it, for the sake of doing good and cultivating the reward. The meaning of inaugurate a good practice is to establish a practice through personal reasoning (ijtihad) and derivation (istinbat) from the rules of religious law or its general texts. The actions of the Prophet’s (s) Companions and the generation following them which we have stated above is the strongest evidence.

Those prejudiced against celebrating the Prophet’s (s) birthday have paved the way for their falsehood by deceiving the less-learned among the Muslims. The prejudiced ones claim that Ibn Kathir writes in his Al Bidaya wal Nihaya (11-172) that the Fatimide-Obaidite state, which descends from the Jew, Obaidillah Bin Maimoon al Kaddah, ruler of Egypt from 357-567 A.H innovated the celebration of a number of days, among them, the celebration of the Prophet’s (s) birthday. This treacherous lie is a grave insult to the scholarship of Ibn Kathir and the scholarship of all Islam. For in truth, Ibn Kathir writes about the Prophet’s (s) birthday in al bidaya wal nihaya [13-136], "The victorious king Abu Said Kawkaburi was one of the generous, distinguished masters, and the glorious kings; he left good impressions and used to observe the honorable Mawlid by having a great celebration. Moreover, he was chivalrous, brave, wise, a scholar, and just." Ibn Kathir continues, "And he used to spend three hundred thousand Dinars on the Mawlid." In support, Imam al Dhahabi writes of Abu Said Kawkaburi, in Siyar A’laam al nubala’ [22-336], "He was humble, righteous, and loved religious learned men and scholars of Prophetic saying."


Sayings of the Rightly-Guided Imams Regarding the Mawlid

Imam Al Suyuti

In Al hawi lil fatawi, Al Suyuti wrote a special chapter entitled, "The Good Intention in Commemorating the Mawlid," at the beginning of which he said, "There is a question being asked about commemorating the Mawlid of the Prophet (s) in the month of Rabi’ al Awwal: What is the religious legal ruling in this regard? Is it good or bad? Does the one who celebrates get rewarded or not?’ The answer according to me is as follows: To commemorate the Mawlid, which is basically gathering people together, reciting parts of the Qur’an, narrating stories about the Prophet’s birth and the signs that accompanied it, then serving food, and afterwards departing is one of the good innovations; and the one who practices it gets rewarded, because it involves venerating the status of the Prophet (s) and expressing joy for his honorable birth."

Ibn Taymiyya

In his book Iqtida' al Siratul Mustaqeem [Al hadeeth print, p. 266]. Ibn Taymiyya states, "As to what some people have innovated either to compete with Christians on the birth of `Isa u or for the love of the Prophet (s) and veneration for him, Allah might reward them for their love and ijtihad."

As far as we are concerned, we commemorate the Mawlid for no other reason but what Ibn Taymiya said, "Out of love and veneration of the Prophet." May Allah (swt) reward us according to this love and effort, and may Allah (swt) bless the one who said, "Let alone what the Christians claim about their Prophet, and you may praise Muhammad (s) in any way you want and attribute to his essence all honors and to his status all greatness, for his merit has no limits that any expression by any speaker might reach." [Imam al Busiri]

Hafiz Ibn Hajar al-Haythami

In the same source previously mentioned, Suyuti said, "Someone asked Ibn Hajar about commemorating the Mawlid. Ibn Hajar answered, ‘Basically, commemorating the Mawlid is an innovation that has not been transmitted by the righteous Muslims of the first three centuries. However, it involves good things and their opposites, therefore, whoever looks for the good and avoids the opposites then it is a good innovation.’ It occurred to me (Suyuti) to trace it to its established origin, which has been confirmed in the two authentic books: al Sahihain. When the Prophet (s) arrived in Medina he found that the Jews fast the day of `ashura; when he inquired about it they said, ‘This is the day when Allah (swt) drowned the Pharaoh and saved Moses, therefore we fast it to show our gratitude to Allah (swt).’ From this we can conclude that thanks are being given to Allah on a specific day for sending bounty or preventing indignity or harm. What bounty is greater than the bounty of the coming of this Prophet(s), the Prophet of Mercy, on that day?"

"This is regarding the basis of Mawlid. As for the activities, these should consist only of things that express thankfulness to Allah (swt), such as what has been previously mentioned: reciting Qur’an, eating food, giving charity, reciting poetry, praising the Prophet (s) or on piety which moves hearts and drives them to do good and work for the Hereafter."

These are the derivations that those opposed to Mawlid call false conclusions and invalid analogies.

Imam Mohammed bin Abu Bakr Abdullah al Qaisi al Dimashqi

He wrote Jami` al athar fi mawlid, Al nabiy al mukhtar, Al lafz al ra’iq fi mawlid khayr al khala’iq, and Mawlid al sa`ada fi mawlid al hadi.

Imam Al `Iraqi

He wrote Al Mawlid al heni fi al mawlid al sani.

Mulla `Ali Al Qari

He wrote Al mawlid al rawi fil mawlid al nabawi.

Imam Ibn Dahiya

He wrote Al Tanweer fi mawlid al basheer al nadheer.

Imam Shamsu Din bin Nasir al Dimashqi

He wrote Mawlid al sa`ada fi mawlid al hadi. He is the one who said about the Prophet’s (s) estranged uncle, Abu Lahab, "This unbeliever who has been disparaged, ‘perish his hands’, will stay in Hell forever. Yet, every Monday his torment is being reduced because of his joy at the birth of the Prophet r. How much mercy can a servant expect who spends all his life joyous about the Prophet (s) and dies believing in the Oneness of Allah (swt)?"

Imam Shamsu Din Ibn Al Jazri

He wrote Al nashr fil qira’at al `ashr, `urf al ta’reef bil mawlid al shareef.

Imam Ibn al Jawzi

Imam Ibn al Jawzi said about the honorable Mawlid, "It is security throughout the year, and glad tidings that all wishes and desires will be fulfilled."

Imam Abu Shama

Imam Abu Shama (Imam Nawawi’s shaykh) in his book al ba’ith ala Inkar al bida` wal hawadith (pg.23) said, "One of the best innovations in our time is what is being done every year on the Prophet’s (s) birthday, such as giving charity, doing good deeds, displaying ornaments, and expressing joy, for that expresses the feelings of love and veneration for him in the hearts of those who are celebrating, and also, shows thankfulness to Allah (swt) for His bounty by sending His Messenger (s), the one who has been sent as a Mercy to the worlds."

Imam al Shihab al Qastalani

Al Qastalani (al Bukhari’s commentator) in his book Al mawahib al ladunniya (1-148) said, "May Allah (swt) have mercy on the one who turns the nights of the month of the Prophet’s (s) birth into festivities in order to decrease the suffering of those whose hearts are filled with disease and sickness."

There are others who wrote and spoke about Mawlid, such as Imam al Sakhawi, Imam Wajihu Din bin `Ali bin al Dayba’ al Shaybani al Zubaidi, and many more, which we will not mention due to the limited space available. From these many evidences, it should be clear by now that celebrating the Mawlid is highly commendable and allowed. Surely we cannot simply shrug off as heretics the scholars and dignitaries of this nation who approved the commemoration of the Mawlid and wrote countless books on the subject. Are all these scholars, to whom the whole world is indebted for the beneficial books they have written on Prophetic sayings, jurisprudence, commentaries, and other sorts of knowledge, among the indecent who commit sins and evil? Are they, as those opposed to Mawlid claim, imitating the Christians in celebrating the birth of Jesus? Are they claiming that the Prophet (s) did not convey to the nation what they should do? We leave answers to these questions up to you.

We must continue to examine the errors which those opposed to Mawlid utter. They say, "If celebrating the Mawlid is from the religion, then the Prophet (s) would have made it clear to the nation, or would have done it in his lifetime, or it would have been done by the Companions." No one can say that the Prophet (s) did not do it out of his humbleness, for this is speaking evil of him, so they cannot use this argument.

Furthermore, that the Prophet (s) and his Companions did not do a certain thing does not mean they made that thing prohibited. The proof is in the Prophet’s (s) saying, "Whoever establishes in Islam, a good practice...." cited earlier. This is the strongest evidence that gives encouragement to innovate whatever practices have foundations in religious law, even if the Prophet (s) and his Companions did not do them. Al Shafi`i said, "Anything that has a foundation in religious law is not an innovation even if the Companions did not do it, because their refraining from doing it might have been for a certain excuse they had at the time, or they left it for something better, or perhaps not all of them knew about it." Therefore, whoever prohibits anything based on the concept that the Prophet (s) did not do it, his claim has no proof and must be rejected.

Thus, we say to the rejecters of Mawlid: based on the rule you have attempted to found, that is, that whoever does anything that the Prophet (s) or his Companions did not do is committing innovation, it would follow that the Prophet (s) did not complete the religion for his nation, and that the Prophet (s) did not convey to the nation what they should do. No one says this or believes this except a heretic defecting from the religion of Allah (swt). To the doubters of Mawlid we declare, "Based on what you say, we convict you," for you have innovated in the basics of worship a large number of things that the Prophet (s) did not do nor did his Companions, the Generation after the Companions, or the Generation after them. For instance:

lCongregating people behind one Imam to pray salat al tahajjud after salat al tarawih, in the two Holy Mosques and other mosques.

lReciting the prayer of completion of the Qur’an in salat al tarawih and also in salat al tahajjud.

Designating the 27th night of Ramadan to complete reading the entire Qur’an in the two Holy Mosques.

A caller saying, after salat al tarawih, in the Qiyam prayer, "May Allah reward you."

lThe saying: "Oneness of Allah (swt)s divided into three parts: Oneness of Godhood; Oneness of Lordship and Oneness of of the Names and Attributes." Is this found in a hadith, the statements of the companions or the statements of the four imams?

lFounding organizations which did not exist in the time of the Prophet, such as Islamic universities, societies for committing the Qur’an to memory, and offices for missionary work, and committees for enjoining good and forbidding evil.

We are not objecting to these things, since they are forms of good innovation. We merely list these innovations to point out that those who oppose Mawlid clearly contradict their own rule stating that anything that neither the Prophet (s) nor his Companions did is innovation. Since they claim that all innovation is bad, they themselves are guilty.

Yet another claim they make is to say that those who commemorate the Mawlid are mostly indecent and immoral. This is a vulgar statement and it only reflects the character of the one saying it. Are all the distinguished scholars that we have mentioned, from the point of view of those opposed to Mawlid, indecent and immoral? We won’t be surprised if this is what they believe. This is a most serious slander. We say, as the poet said, "When Allah (swt) wants to spread a virtue that has been hidden, He would let a tongue of an envious person know about it."

Those opposed to Mawlid, may Allah (swt) guide them, have confused some expressions, and claim that some religious scholars associate partners with Allah. Take for example the plea of Imam al Busiri to Prophet Muhammad (s), "Oh, most generous of creation, I have no one to resort to, save You, when the prevailing event takes place." They must examine carefully the saying of Imam Al Busiri: "`inda hulul al-hadith il `amami, when the prevailing event takes place." What is al `amam? It means that which prevails over the whole universe, and all of creation, in referring to the Day of Judgment. Imam Al Busiri is asking intercession from the Prophet (s) on the Day of Judgment because on that day we will have no one to resort to or appeal to. Imam Al Busiri seeks his intercession to Allah (swt) through the Prophet (s), for when all other Messengers and Prophets will be saying, "Myself, myself," the Prophet will be saying, "I am the one for it, I am for it [the Intercession]." It becomes even more clear now that the doubts of those opposed to Mawlid are unfounded, just as their charges of associating partners with Allah (swt) are unfounded. This is due to their blindness, both physical and spiritual.

Another similar example can be found in the well-known saying transmitted by the distinguished Imam al Kamal bin al Hammam al Hanafi, author of Fath il qadeer fi manasik al farisi, and Sharh al mukhtar min al sa`ada al ahnaf. When Imam Abu Hanifa visited Medina, he stood in front of the honorable grave of the Prophet (s) and said, "O, most honorable of the Two Weighty Ones (humankind and jinn)! O, treasure of mankind, shower your generosity upon me and please me with your pleasure. I am aspiring for your generosity, and there is no one for Abu Hanifa in the world but you." Again, we must not misinterpret this entreaty, but realize its true meaning.

Yet another misconception those opposed to Mawlid hold can be seen in their statements such as these: "What occurs during Mawlid is mixing between men and women, singing and playing musical instruments, and drinking alcohol." I myself know this to be a lie, for I have attended many Mawlids and have not seen any mixing and never heard any musical instruments. As for drunkenness, yes, I have seen it, but not that of worldly people. We found people intoxicated with the love of the Prophet r, a state surpassing even the agony of death, which we know overcame our master Bilal at the time of his death. In the midst of this sweet stupor he was saying, "Tomorrow I shall meet the loved ones, Muhammad (s) and his Companions."

To continue, those opposed to Mawlid say, "The day of the Prophet’s (s) birth is the same day of the week as his death. Therefore, joy on this day is no more appropriate than sorrow, and if religion is according to one’s opinion, then this day should be a day of mourning and sorrow." This kind of lame eloquence is answered by the Imam Jalal al Din al Suyuti, in Al hawi lil fatawi (pg.193), "The Prophet’s (s) birth is the greatest bounty, and his death is the greatest calamity. Religious law urges us to express thankfulness for bounties, and be patient and remain calm during calamities. Religious law has commanded us to sacrifice an animal on the birth of a child [and distribute the meat to the needy], which is an expression of gratitude and happiness with the newborn, while it did not command us to sacrifice at the time of death. Also, it prohibited wailing and showing grief. Therefore, the rules of Divine Law indicate that it is recommended to show joy during the month of the Prophet’s birth and not to show sorrow for his death."

Furthermore, Ibn Rajab, in his book Al lata’if, dispraising the rejecters of Mawlid based on the above argument said, "Some designated the day of `ashura as a funeral ceremony for the murder of al Hussein. But neither Allah (swt) nor His Prophet (s) commanded that the days of the prophets’ great trials or deaths should be declared days of mourning, let alone those with lesser rank."

We conclude this article with a saying of the Prophet (s) which has been narrated by Abu Ya`ala, from Hudhaifa and about which Ibn Kathir said, "Its chain of transmission is good." Abu Ya`ala said, "The Prophet (s) has said, ‘One of the things that concerns me about my nation is a man who studied the Qur’an, and when its grace started to show on him and he had the appearance of a Muslim, he detached himself from it, and threw it behind his back, and went after his neighbor with a sword and accused him of associating partners with Allah (swt)’. I then asked, ‘Oh, Prophet of Allah, which one is more guilty of associating partners with Allah, the accused or the accuser?’ The Prophet (s) said, ‘It is the accuser.’"

Completed, with all Praises to Allah and salutations and peace be upon our master Muhammad (s) and the family of Muhammad and his Companions?

[salahuldin786]

the blessed mawlid
http://www.zaytuna.org/seasonsjournal/seasons6/2-4Final_Mawlid.pdf


mawlid in iraq
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi3tnFQaoPM

[salahuldin786]

In the name of Allah do I begin.
The Most Merciful, The Most Kind.

For it was Allah, who delivered the Best of Creation,
To the whole of Mankind.

How great is His favour, for us to see.
For Truth has arrived, and falsehood will flee.

May every blessing be upon thee, O sweet and beautiful Madani.

No sweeter man has there ever been.
None more honest and serene.


Your blessed feet have visited the Arsh.
Thou art Allah’s light upon this darkened Farsh.


Your sweat is sweeter than the scent of a rose. [1]
Upon your honour, do I compose this prose. [2]

May every blessing be upon thee, O sweet and beautiful Madani.

Your City is the one with grandeur and Light,
And the Imams knew it all to be true, upon first sight. [3]

O sweet and precious Madani, with your Sunna I pray,
I might live in harmony. [4]

I long to see the blessed green dome,
For there resides my heart’s true home. [5]

They called it al Munawwarra – the Radiant abode.
For it was when you O Madani, blessed it with your presence and made it your home.


Our Iman is not complete, till for you we have true love. [6]
How can this not be, for you are more radiant than the whitest of doves.

May every blessing be upon thee, O sweet and beautiful Madani.

They all flocked to see, from where the light did come,
Upon thy blessed face did they glance, and be overcome.

In jubilation they sang, “The moon rose over us.” [7]
And the reality was there.

“Undoubtedly there has come to you from Allah, a light and a book luminous.” [8]

The Qur’an reminds me, of the moon that rose over us.
For undoubtedly, it is you O sweet Madani, who was that Light. [9] Delivered to the world, to bring consciousness to a new height. [10]

Indeed, it was lady Amina, who also witnessed this light.
So much so that when she was with child, the sky was so bright. [11]

It were the Sahaba who would often recite and set up camp.
And they related to others, your presence overcame both sun and lamp. [12]

Hassan Ibn Thabit, the Ashiq al-Rasul,
Would often declare that your presence even overshadowed the moon. [13]

O sweet Madani, you have turned our darkness into a guiding Light, [14]


So why dear brothers, do we fight and not unite?


For the Sahaba knew best, and did not commit sin.
If only they now saw, the state that we are in. [15]

The Sahaba described well, the light that they saw.
So why do brothers anger when we agree with what went before? [16]

May every blessing be upon thee, O sweet and beautiful Madani.

You helped me to see, that besides Allah, there is No other Divinity, And for you and yours, I have great affinity.

Without your love, O Madani, my heart is lost, and in a muddle.

Every time I cry, and for thee shed a tear:
I long to see thou, O, to be so near!

You have taught me it is Allah I should fear,
But it is only by loving you, O sweet Madani, that we shall draw near. [17]

O Allah! To Thee do I only pray,
And I thank Thee, for showing me the Way.

For I know that when in despair, or I am lost in my way,
I would repeat, what the Pious Predecessors would also say.

‘Abd Allah Ibn ‘Umar and Khalid bin Walid,
Who will dare declare them of any evil deeds?

In numbness and in pain, even after your passing, O sweet Madani.
They cried out “Ya Muhammad !”

So shall it not suffice for a sinner like me? [18]

May every blessing be upon thee, O sweet and beautiful Madani.

May every moment be spent in saying your Darud. [19]
May I never leave sense, of the Madinan Hadud.

I wish that my destiny, be tied with Madina.
For there is the Prophet, and blessed Sakinah.

May I become a pious servant of Madina.
Fill my heart, O Allah, with the love of the Sayyid of Madina. [20]

For with your love, my heart glides like a kite,
Your radiance has provided me, with a guiding light.

I long to see the day, when I can be near your side.
I will stand and recite Darud.
It will be my honour, and my pride. [21]

Upon you, your ashiqs lavish great praise. [22]
To those who do not understand,
they simply dismiss this as a craze.

I swear by Almighty Allah, that I will never stop,
Reciting your Darud, until the day I do drop. [23]

All praise and worship is for Allah,
For bestowing the honour on me.
Of being from the Umma, of the blessed Madani.

Excuse me if I cry, O Sayyid of Madina.
To behold your radiant face, that the Sahaba used to see.
What an honour it will be, for an unworthy one, such as me.

May every blessing be upon thee, O sweet and beautiful Madani.

Some may claim that you are like any one of us,
But who can claim, to have visited the Arsh?

We say bashr, but respect is also due.
For mankind are like rocks, but a pearl are you. [24]

Why cannot they see, the Magnificence of you, O Madani?
The Imam of the Anbiya, and the Leader of Allah’s Community.

You travelled the Seven Heavens, and your eyes did not lie.
For Jibril could not pass, but you, O Madani, glided by. [25]

How can anyone deny Allah’s love for you, O sweet Madani?
Whose name has He raised above, for all to see? [26]


For it is your blessed name, that is besides Allah’s Majesty.
It has been placed there, for the whole of Mankind to see.


The Lord of the World’s called you Rafun and Rahim. [27]
But still yet, some cannot see,
The majesty and honour, that Allah has bestowed upon thee!

May every blessing be upon thee, O sweet and beautiful Madani.

They call us mad – our love declared a Bid’a [28] and that which is Something new.
O! If only they understood, what the majnun of Baghdad, Shaykh Shibli knew! [29]

We say to our brothers, who do not know,
That this is the Islam of the Companions, and to this we can show.
How they went at length to show their love and respect.


When the Companions would rush to catch the blessed water,
There would be chaos, and simply no order. [30]

So you see, the Love of Rasul has an exceptional rule -
Love him more than yourself – until then, we are all just fools! [31]

In sha’ Allah, upon us there will be Allah’s Karam,
And you, O Madani, will be our hearts Mehram.

May I one day again, come to your City,
O sweet and precious Madani.
And have true love, like Uways al Qarani [32]

O! Allah, hear the cries of your Ghulam,
Upon Thy blessed, do I send continuous Salam! [33]

May countless blessing be upon thee,
O sweet and beautiful Madani!


http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/aftab.htm

[salahuldin786]

Makki Madani By Shaam
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Lphkl9f68Xk

Shaam - Jashne Aamede Rasool
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E7MjWcdTptQ&feature=related

Shaam - Hazoor Agaey Hein
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CfiTXket60U&feature=related

The Sultan of Medina
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eKRcIAtxQNo

Owais Raza Awesome
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wf7Yelb3Dh8

Beautiful QASIDA BURDAH Recitation with English
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-vTrREGsWOY&feature=related

Burdah Night
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=85Zj06Mq5eQ&feature=related

[`asiya]

:smack: enough of the copy and pastes full of mens opinions,and poetry, and nasheed, just bring one ayat or hadith or one narration from the companions about this day.

( im not going to use the word celebrate because some people are trying to say this is the difference, when its not, as its all the same no matter wether u call it mawlid or celebrate or anything else.)

[salahuldin786]

:smack: enough of the copy and pastes full of mens opinions,and poetry, and nasheed, just bring one ayat or hadith or one narration from the companions about this day.

( im not going to use the word celebrate because some people are trying to say this is the difference, when its not, as its all the same no matter wether u call it mawlid or celebrate or anything else.)

show me one hadith and ayat that tell's us not too.

[shaolinmaster]

Allahuakbar, walhamdulillah hilladhee khalaqal insaana wa yubayyinu lahu subulul hidaayah wa subulud-dalaalah.

This thread does nothing but prove that Sufi crackpots like Chained Water and especially "Salahuddin '786'", aka Mr endless cut and pasting rubbish, are in the minority. Just look at the poll. A generation of wiser, more in tune with their deen muslims are arising among the youth. They're not those who have been influenced by the nonsense of their culture or the teachings of ignorants, since anyone who studies their religion with sincerity can see what is false and what is right. Just look at the responses of the brothers and sisters in this thread and the clear result of this poll alone.

Thus you, O innovators and claimaints to loving the Prophet (saw), oh blockers of roads in east london with your idiotic marches of hypocrisy (considering that 90% of the people who are present at such events have a clean shaven face, big mustache and salvaars hanging way below the ankle, are there for financial benefit or both) will never be those who are taken seriously.

The beautiful hadith of our beloved Messenger (saw) comes to mind, "My Ummah will never unite upon misguidance" (Tirmidhi and others).

This thread is nothing but a proof of the truthfulness of these words....

[seven]

shaolinmaster, maybe you would have got your point across better without the insults.

[salahuldin786]

Allahuakbar, walhamdulillah hilladhee khalaqal insaana wa yubayyinu lahu subulul hidaayah wa subulud-dalaalah.

This thread does nothing but prove that Sufi crackpots like Chained Water and especially "Salahuddin '786'", aka Mr endless cut and pasting rubbish, are in the minority. Just look at the poll. A generation of wiser, more in tune with their deen muslims are arising among the youth. They're not those who have been influenced by the nonsense of their culture or the teachings of ignorants, since anyone who studies their religion with sincerity can see what is false and what is right. Just look at the responses of the brothers and sisters in this thread and the clear result of this poll alone.

Thus you, O innovators and claimaints to loving the Prophet (saw), oh blockers of roads in east london with your idiotic marches of hypocrisy (considering that 90% of the people who are present at such events have a clean shaven face, big mustache and salvaars hanging way below the ankle, are there for financial benefit or both) will never be those who are taken seriously.

The beautiful hadith of our beloved Messenger (saw) comes to mind, "My Ummah will never unite upon misguidance" (Tirmidhi and others).

This thread is nothing but a proof of the truthfulness of these words....


if you had a brain you would notice that most of the people on this forum are all student's, so that will show you that most of them are young kid's that have not learnt much about islam, most just wanna fit in the crowd so the tick were most of the people are at, i am not afaird to stand alone when it come's to my prophet, i will celebrate his birth until the star's in the sky will burn out, until the sea dries out, until the mountain's crumble to dust.

and you my friend should keep your foul mouth clean that is the muslim why and what you said about My Ummah will never unite upon misguidance that is true come out of your corner and you will see that the whole world celebrate's the prophet birth from china to morroco.


and i will take my deen from the ulema not kid's.

[salahuldin786]

shaolinmaster, maybe you would have got your point across better without the insults.

that is the way of the stoned hearted muslim's.

[seven]

that is the way of the stoned hearted muslim's.you're not much different... perhaps people will take you more seriously without the attitude

[Fais]

The beautiful hadith of our beloved Messenger (saw) comes to mind, "My Ummah will never unite upon misguidance" (Tirmidhi and others).

This thread is nothing but a proof of the truthfulness of these words....

:rofl1: ...

[MustBePatient]

Quran says to do good to your parents.

There is no limit and no specified exact only way one can do it. But the general command has to be obeyed.

Honoring the Prophet (pbuh) has been commanded in Quran.

No one can deny Mawlood is a form of honoring the Prophet (pbuh).

There is no limit on how much one is allowed to honor the Prophet (pbuh).

This is what Mawlood does exactly, it honors the Prophet (pbuh).

Honoring the Prophet (pbuh) first generation might not have included mawlood due to the difference of the situation.

They didn't post things about ISlam or Prophet (pbuh) via internet either, does it make it wrong to? Or is it really according to Quran to do that?

Today - mawlood is taken as day to honor Mohammad (pbuh) as a person, which is aside from following and obeying him which links back to obeying God (so please don't say we honor by following sunna, that is command it self and different matter), it has to do with honoring the Prophet (as).

It's not something on it's own, it's accordance with command, to limit honoring to mean that only, is what would be wrong, to deny it as a form of honoring would be wrong, as it obviously it does honor Mohammad (pbuh) in minds of people.

Also, today, we see how non-Muslims attack his personality, displaying our love to him and our attachment sends a political message as well.

[salahuldin786]

Mawlid Jeddah
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_dikNnsS8

Somali Hadra/Mawlid
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ncQi1FGYL9U&feature=related

mawlid with sayyid muhammad alawi al-maliki (ra)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=06sXXulYwKg&feature=related

Mawlid Toronto Celebration
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oTqf9G5CW7c&feature=related

Mawlid in Los Angeles 2006
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OwkAkPguf-4&feature=related

Mawlid-
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AjNxBafU83k&feature=related

Mawlid Hafla 2004
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7APWe0Nua4s&feature=related

Mawlid 2007-Ya Habibi Boston
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-t70cvPPDc&feature=related

Mawlid Marseille 2007
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kfTFcNW29g0&feature=related

mawlid de paris
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=aKZDmAhyPRM&feature=related

mawlid london
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ynyEbHLacu0&feature=related

mawlid-burdah
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DqvaaM4hOBY&feature=related

subhan allah, allah know's what is in the heart's of suf's ahl sunna wal jammah.


i can put up many more people celebrateing mawlid across the globe just to prove a point to someone who said somthing. but i wont cuz this will shut him up.

[MustBePatient]

Fasting every Monday is good enough for me.

That is fine, that is what Mustahab way to honor Prophet (pbuh), to fast because of his birthday being on Monday.

But there is no limit in the general command.

For connecting to God you have the five salats obligatory.

Then you have Salatal Layl which is most mustahab after that.

Then the other Sunna Salats after the five dailies which are highly mustahab.

With regards to those Mustahabs, it's hated to go on avoiding it as it's very much enjoined to do them, especially the night prayer, which is highly makruh to avoid doing.

If someone however does more then this, then it's not a problem, don't you agree?

Same with fasting, their is obligatory, there is highly recommended, ie. Shaban , 13, 14, 15, of each moth, Monday's and Thursdays.

But then you allowed to fast more if you want.

Now you want to say "honoring the Prophet by fasting Monday is good enough for me", that is fine, but you can't prohibit people from Celebrating on his birthday, it's form of honoring Prophet (pbuh), and many people might not find the strength to fast each Monday, and so, would want to at least celebrate his Birthday on the exact day he was born of the year.

[sapphire_blue]

:smack: enough of the copy and pastes full of mens opinions,and poetry, and nasheed, just bring one ayat or hadith or one narration from the companions about this day.



What did I say?

Post 4 in this thread -

Here comes salahuldin786 with his looooooooooooooooooonnnggg copy and pastes . . .

:coolsis:

[Joha]

i can put up many more people celebrateing mawlid across the globe just to prove a point to someone who said somthing. but i wont cuz this will shut him up.

I'm sorry, and what exactly have you proven by showing many many people celebrating the mawlid?

Other than proving that the majority opinion isn't always the right one?

Although I must point out, the rest of the world already knows that. The majority of the world is non-Muslim, would you be happy for them to argue that therefore Islam is wrong?

I guess not, so interesting and highly persuasive though your argument is, it must be dismissed as nonsensical :rolleyes:

[GuCcI]

What did I say?

Post 4 in this thread -

:coolsis:

lol that was funny :love:

[Ibrahim70]

Do You Celebrate The Prophet's Day of Birth?

No its a bida'h.

[UkhtAlMuslimeen]

The Ummayads and Abbasids did their best to stop people from visiting tombs of Imams (as) especially Imam Hussain (as).

Now as people were inclining towards them, who came with this shirk to go graves nonsense?

And why do they destroy places that are associated with the Nabi (pbuh)? Why do they put parking lots in their places?

Why did they demolish Janatal Baqi?

Now coming out telling us not to celebrate Mawlood, it's obvious who they all are.
:salams
well, im glad you can see who they are...or whatever but like i said stick to the topic of the thread please....i see where you want to divert this topic to.
by the way....loving the prophet muhammed :saw: = upholding his sunnah
errmm...therefore, when somone say ''asalam mualaykum''....you say ''walaykum asalam''!

[zaki]

where is a hadith or verse from the Quran saying we should celebrate the Prophet's birthday?

I see pages and pages of information...but no proof to back the information up?

[Ibn Khattab]

the adab of some people here is amazing.

[Chained_Water]

Allahuakbar, walhamdulillah hilladhee khalaqal insaana wa yubayyinu lahu subulul hidaayah wa subulud-dalaalah.

This thread does nothing but prove that Sufi crackpots like Chained Water and especially "Salahuddin '786'", aka Mr endless cut and pasting rubbish, are in the minority. Just look at the poll. A generation of wiser, more in tune with their deen muslims are arising among the youth. They're not those who have been influenced by the nonsense of their culture or the teachings of ignorants, since anyone who studies their religion with sincerity can see what is false and what is right. Just look at the responses of the brothers and sisters in this thread and the clear result of this poll alone.

Thus you, O innovators and claimaints to loving the Prophet (saw), oh blockers of roads in east london with your idiotic marches of hypocrisy (considering that 90% of the people who are present at such events have a clean shaven face, big mustache and salvaars hanging way below the ankle, are there for financial benefit or both) will never be those who are taken seriously.

The beautiful hadith of our beloved Messenger (saw) comes to mind, "My Ummah will never unite upon misguidance" (Tirmidhi and others).

This thread is nothing but a proof of the truthfulness of these words....

:wswrwb:

Firstly, I've never claimed to be a sufi and still wouldn't. I'm just an average Sunni Muslim.

Also, some of the people voting are non-Muslims, others I know for a fact have attended mawlid gatherings so just from that the results aren't accurate. Furthermore, people are using different definitions of celebrate and "day of birth" [specific day or not] ..and the poll is hardly representative of the Muslim population of either the UK or the world at large. On different forums, in different places you would get different results. You argument is flawed.

Lastly I'd ask if anyone can find in the time of the prophet(saw) or the later few generations of the pious predeccessors a precedent for:

- reciting poetry in praise of the prophet(saw)
- singing in praise of the prophet(saw)
- sending salat and salaam on the prophet(saw)
- marking the day of his birth (by for example, fasting)
- gathering for remembrance, of Allah(swt) and His Rasool(saw)
- gathering to hear those of knowledge relate our Master Muhammad(saw)'s seerah, shama'il, teach his(saw) sunnah, his virtues and so on.
- gathering to recite and hear recitation of the Quran

or to, shock horror, inculcate a sense of gratitude towards the Allah(swt) for sending the Mercy upon Mankind (saw) to be our Guide, and a realisation that this was the biggest favour upon us.. to instill a deep love toward him(saw) and to remember what a grand day it was when the best of creation entered this world.

Which of the above is impermissible in Islam? Which is a reprehensible innovation?

[zaki]

:wswrwb:

Firstly, I've never claimed to be a sufi and still wouldn't. I'm just an average Sunni Muslim.



Thats a point I want to make, brothers and sisters we may have this talk about this issue, but never judge people, we are all trying to do our best for the sake of Allah at the end of the day :) we will never hate each other, the members who do something special on the Prophet's Day of Birth, i love them for the sake of Allah, and the members who dont, i still love them for the sake of Allah. :)

[Aquarious]

:salams,

No we shouldn't celebrate it as its ( Bid'ah)- Innovation in Islam

Verily the best speech is the book of Allah and the best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad sallallahu alaihiwasallam and the worst of affairs are the newly invented matters and every innovation is misguidance and all misguidance is in the fire.

(Sahih Muslim Eng. Trans. Vol. 2 Page 40 no. 1885).

[salahuldin786]

it should be clear by now that celebrating the Mawlid is highly commendable and allowed. Surely we cannot simply shrug off as heretics the scholars and dignitaries of this nation who approved the commemoration of the Mawlid and wrote countless books on the subject. Are all these scholars, to whom the whole world is indebted for the beneficial books they have written on Prophetic sayings, jurisprudence, commentaries, and other sorts of knowledge, among the indecent who commit sins and evil? Are they, as those opposed to Mawlid claim, imitating the Christians in celebrating the birth of Jesus? Are they claiming that the Prophet e did not convey to the nation what they should do?

We leave answers to these questions up to you. We must continue to examine the errors which those opposed to Mawlid utter. They say, "If celebrating the Mawlid is from the religion, then the Prophet c would have made it clear to the nation, or would have done it in his lifetime, or it would have been done by the Companions." No one can say that the Prophet e did not do it out of his humbleness, for this is speaking evil of him, so they cannot use this argument. Furthermore, that the Prophet e and his Companions did not do a certain thing does not mean they made that thing prohibited. The proof is in -the Prophet´s saying, "Whoever establishes in Islam, a good practice...... cited earlier. This is the strongest evidence that gives encouragement , to innovate whatever practices have foundations in religious law, even if the Prophet and his Companions did not do them. Al Shafi´i said, "Anything that has a foundation in religious law is not an innovation even if the Companions did not do it, because their refraining from doing it might have been for a certain excuse they had at the time, or they left it for something better, or perhaps not all of them knew about it." Therefore, whoever prohibits anything based on the concept that the Prophet did not do it, his claim has no proof and must be rejected. Thus, we say to the rejecters of Mawlid: based on the rule you have attempted to found, that is, that whoever does anything that the Prophet e or his Companions did not do is committing innovation, it would follow that the Prophet e did not complete the religion for his nation, and that the Prophet e did not convey to the nation what they should do. No one says this or believes this except a heretic defecting from the religion of Allah 1.

To the doubters of Mawlid we declare, "Based on what you say, we convict you," for you have innovated in the basics of worship a large number of things that the Prophet e did not do nor did his Companions, the Generation after the Companions, or the Generation after them. For instance: Congregating people behind one Imam to pray salat al tahajud after salat al tarawih, in the two Holy Mosques and other mosques. - Reciting the prayer of completion of the Qur´an in salat al tarawih and also in salat al tahajud. - Designating the 27th night of Ramadan to complete reading the entire Qur´an in the two Holy Mosques. - A caller saying, after salat al tarawih, in the Qiyam prayer, "May Allah reward you." The saying: "Oneness of Allah Is divided into three parts: Oneness of Godhood; Oneness of Lordship and Oneness of of the Names and Attributes." Is this found in a hadith, the statements of the companions or the statements of the four imams? - Founding organizations which did not exist in the time of the Prophet, such as Islamic universities, societies for committing the Qur´an to memory, and offices for missionary work.

[`asiya]

it wil be clear when u stop bringing massive copy and pastes of the opinions of men, and just bring one sahih hadith or ayat thats all, just the one, not too difficult is it...

[RashidD]

:wswrwb:

Firstly, I've never claimed to be a sufi and still wouldn't. I'm just an average Sunni Muslim.


Also, some of the people voting are non-Muslims, others I know for a fact have attended mawlid gatherings so just from that the results aren't accurate. Furthermore, people are using different definitions of celebrate and "day of birth" [specific day or not] ..a