please remove this thread

[insomniac]

:salams

Hope you're well insha'Allaah.

Please remove the thread below, as Miss Islamic pointed out, it's putting her to sleep.

http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=162254

:wswrwb:

Your sister

[sapphire_blue]

Walaykumsalam,

Yes, but it's not putting the rest of us to sleep.

No need to delete the thread. It's fine. :jkk: for posting.

[.: Anna :.]

i have just deleted the off topic and dealt with that

[dhakiyya]

keep on campaigning sister its not putting me to sleep mashaAllah :up:

[miss-islamic]

Sorry -- the obsession with the M.E conflict as if it’s the only conflict in the world annoys me sometimes. Almost as much as the obsession with the Holocaust does. There is a big difference between knowing and caring about your own people suffering and only knowing and caring about them as if none other exist. Disgusting.

[GuCcI]

Sorry -- the obsession with the M.E conflict as if it’s the only conflict in the world annoys me sometimes. Almost as much as the obsession with the Holocaust does. There is a big difference between knowing and caring about your own people suffering and only knowing and caring about them as if none other exist. Disgusting.

its not easy to keep up with sooo many conflicts going around in the world, but it sure is a start. and its not just the middle east that the campaigns are focused on. a lot of them have to do with guantanamo. boycotting, etc.
if you're interested in another type of conflict why dont you help the sisters by adding some of your own ideas in the campaign section instead of bashing them for "ignoring" others :scratch:
if sis insomniac and nazias werent so active then this whole campaign thing would be almost dead

[Te'oma]

Sorry -- the obsession with the M.E conflict as if it’s the only conflict in the world annoys me sometimes. Almost as much as the obsession with the Holocaust does. There is a big difference between knowing and caring about your own people suffering and only knowing and caring about them as if none other exist. Disgusting.

You are right...it's not the only conflict but the problem is that it's hard to get accurate information about other conflicts

[insomniac]

Sorry -- the obsession with the M.E conflict as if it’s the only conflict in the world annoys me sometimes. Almost as much as the obsession with the Holocaust does. There is a big difference between knowing and caring about your own people suffering and only knowing and caring about them as if none other exist. Disgusting.

there are indeed other conflicts sister, and many which go unnoticed.
I'll name a few for you and insha'Allaah you can help to educate and encourage us all to campaign on these matters


The Uighurs of China
The Rohingya in Burma
The Shia minority being persecuted in Nigeria
The poverty stricken Sudanese
The Somali's under US fire.
The Kashmiri warzone
The Chechen Children drug abuse
The Chechen going missing
Torture in Spanish, Algerian, Moroccan and egyptian prisons
The thousands missing in Pakistan - War on Terror
The 'honour' killings worldwide


:insha: I'm sure you will break down the current trend and highlight some of these other conflicts on the forum :up:

:jkk:

[Nazias]

Sorry -- the obsession with the M.E conflict as if it’s the only conflict in the world annoys me sometimes. Almost as much as the obsession with the Holocaust does. There is a big difference between knowing and caring about your own people suffering and only knowing and caring about them as if none other exist. Disgusting.

There are many a conflict in the world no one is denying that. The point is that there is more media/news about certian matters hence people are aware of them and there is more to post about in terms of the forum.

We are all free to do more about remembering and raising the plinght of those facing oppression.

[xris]

There are many a conflict in the world no one is denying that. The point is that there is more media/news about certian matters hence people are aware of them and there is more to post about in terms of the forum.

We are all free to do more about remembering and raising the plinght of those facing oppression.you are doing a good job carry on they need every little help they can get.

[insomniac]

Sorry -- the obsession with the M.E conflict as if it’s the only conflict in the world annoys me sometimes. Almost as much as the obsession with the Holocaust does. There is a big difference between knowing and caring about your own people suffering and only knowing and caring about them as if none other exist. Disgusting.



my own people? please clarify as to who my own people are?

[Nazias]

you are doing a good job carry on they need every little help they can get.

Just to clarify are you being sarcastic?

I do very little and I hope (Insha'allah) we can all do more.

[*IslamicGirl*]

:start:

:salams


sis miss Islamic, that is not a very nice thing to say, Muslims are Muslims no matter where- the Palestinians are suffering and they don't get enough coverage as it is and when they do it's mostly distorted.

Sis Insomniac - keep posting sweetheart you got people reading your threads, signing the petitions and raising awareness of the situation. :love: :masha:

:wswrwb:

[.: Anna :.]

It is true there are alot of other people suffering like what Insomniac has mentioned, but still don't discourage people in the campaigning they are doing. Rather why not put some campaigns for other issues and promote those aswell, encourage others to get involved in more rather than insulting the things which they are doing... Many of these ppl campaigning are doing more than us, so atleast should have the decency not to belittle the amount that they are doing. Would you rather they do nothing?

[xris]

Just to clarify are you being sarcastic?

I do very little and I hope (Insha'allah) we can all do more.why do you think im being sarcastic ive every sympathy with the palestinians.

[Nazias]

why do you think im being sarcastic ive every sympathy with the palestinians.

I was not stating that you were but I was not sure hence the question, especially as some are somewhat negative when it comes to the 'campaigns' on this forum.

Good on you for the sympathy, now start acting on it! :up:

[xris]

I was not stating that you were but I was not sure hence the question, especially as some are somewhat negative when it comes to the 'campaigns' on this forum.

Good on you for the sympathy, now start acting on it! :up:i voice my disaproval to all i can in my normal life and i find most british people agree that israel is abusing its power in palestine but as one poster has said if your not directly involved there are so many terrible things happening palestine is just another one in a long line.you must continue with your agenda because they need you and i will continue to voice my opinions when i can.

[Nazias]

i voice my disaproval to all i can in my normal life and i find most british people agree that israel is abusing its power in palestine but as one poster has said if your not directly involved there are so many terrible things happening palestine is just another one in a long line.you must continue with your agenda because they need you and i will continue to voice my opinions when i can.

I hope you have visited the link in my sig and have written to your MP, mine does not seem to like me :D and everytime I write more questions to her absurd answers, she pretends I don't exist. :rolleyes:

Of course there are many a terrible things happening in the world, more than we probably even know about but as you stated it is essential that we do what we can within our means for that which is 'out there' so to speak.

[xris]

I hope you have visited the link in my sig and have written to your MP, mine does not seem to like me :D and everytime I write more questions to her absurd answers, she pretends I don't exist. :rolleyes:

Of course there are many a terrible things happening in the world, more than we probably even know about but as you stated it is essential that we do what we can within our means for that which is 'out there' so to speak.dont be discouraged its a good cause.i dont think muslims realise there is a silent majority in the uk who know whats happening and dont like it but are too rapt up in their own lives to actualy say something.i promise i will write to my mp.

[miss-islamic]

I’d rather people not talk about one conflict as if it’s the only one that exists then “at least” talk about only the one. Again, how does this make us different then the Jews who obsess over one conflict (i.e.. the Holocaust) as if it’s the only atrocity that has happened? There is inherent racism involved when one people’s suffering in only talked about and mourned. In this case, the other conflicts (be they Muslim or non-Muslim ones) are not just “downplayed,” they are completely ignored. Again, disgusting. And, yes, I shouldn’t have made the comment (or more accurately a simile) I made. But insomniac and me had talked before so I didn’t think she’d “take it to heart.” Thought she was used to me acting dumb and already knew that I think she’s is great. Sorry, again.my own people? please clarify as to who my own people are?

It was a general comment. I love Palesitne/Palesitnians just as the next person( In fact I even went through a stint where I was crazy over them (according to family & friends) :rolleyes: ) but there really is more to the world than that. That’s all I’m saying, sister. :)

[Nazias]

I’d rather people not talk about one conflict as if it’s the only one that exists then “at least” talk about only the one. Again, how does this make us different then the Jews who obsess over one conflict (i.e.. the Holocaust) as if it’s the only atrocity that has happened? There is inherent racism involved when one people’s suffering in only talked about and mourned. In this case, the other conflicts (be they Muslim or non-Muslim ones) are not just “downplayed,” they are completely ignored. Again, disgusting. And, yes, I shouldn’t have made the comment (or more accurately a simile) I made. But insomniac and me had talked before so I didn’t think she’d “take it to heart.” Thought she was used to me acting dumb and already knew that I think she’s is great. Sorry, again.

It was a general comment. I love Palesitne/Palesitnians just as the next person( In fact I even went through a stint where I was crazy over them (according to family & friends) :rolleyes: ) but there really is more to the world than that. That’s all I’m saying, sister. :)

The issue with Palestine is on going and therefore it is viable that people speak of it, is it not?

No one has said that it is the only conflict. We are all aware that there are many, hence people suggested that you, well all do something more about it.

Where is the racism?

[insomniac]

I’d rather people not talk about one conflict as if it’s the only one that exists then “at least” talk about only the one. Again, how does this make us different then the Jews who obsess over one conflict (i.e.. the Holocaust) as if it’s the only atrocity that has happened? There is inherent racism involved when one people’s suffering in only talked about and mourned. In this case, the other conflicts (be they Muslim or non-Muslim ones) are not just “downplayed,” they are completely ignored. Again, disgusting. And, yes, I shouldn’t have made the comment (or more accurately a simile) I made. But insomniac and me had talked before so I didn’t think she’d “take it to heart.” Thought she was used to me acting dumb and already knew that I think she’s is great. Sorry, again.

It was a general comment. I love Palesitne/Palesitnians just as the next person( In fact I even went through a stint where I was crazy over them (according to family & friends) :rolleyes: ) but there really is more to the world than that. That’s all I’m saying, sister. :)

Your point that Palestine is in the media a lot is one I agree with :up:; it's also a conflict people the world over know most about. but we have to also remember that this is also one conflict which the media lies about the most. These lies act as a justfication for Israel's murderous actions in many people's eyes.

There is nothing inherently racist about why I talk about Palestinian suffering. Israel is the only country in the world with expanding borders. Every day and week new settlements are being built on Palestinian land. Like anyone else on this forum, if I see something wrong and against shariah I will say it, be it about Muslims or non Muslims.

Also like everyone, I love the entire Muslim ummah alhamdulillah. I was never 'crazy' over the Palestinians and subhanAllaah nor do I think they were the only people suffering in the world, you're obviously comparing your situation of a stint to mine however our experiences are different. Before I do what I do now, I worked in human rights where I had gained a considerable amount of knowledge on Palestine and even appeared in interviews as a result, therefore I am able to talk about the conflict more because of this.

Personally if you don't want to read anymore about Palestine, then you don't have to, however I know that is not the case :) because you obviously feel and know what's happening there is terrible.

As mentioned before your sentiment doesn't really provide anything constructive, insha'Allaah you will teach us more about one of the conflicts I listed - maybe you can join add an av and stick a sig campaign and tell people more about one forgotten area insha'Allaah :up:

p.s. I don't know why you're calling yourself dumb, because you're not, your comments maybe a teeny weeny bit dumb though :p

[dhakiyya]

Just to clarify - the campaigns section is for all campaigns of any oppressed people anywhere, its not for one group of people and not another - its not run by Insomniac - she simply takes the time and the effort to keep trying to help Muslims who are suffering, so does Nazias and other people. Campaigning for just one single issue is very time consuming and takes a lot of effort - no-one has the time to campaign for every single issue that is affecting people in the world. This may seem one sided, but its only because one human being has limited resources. If people are concerned that some issues affecting the ummah or affecting people in general are not getting enough coverage, then the simple and straight forward way to address that is to start up campaings in there yourself.

I don't think its fair to attack people who are busy campaigning over all the people they're not actively campaigning for, because its simply impossible to be equally as active on all issues - there are not enough hours in the day. If every campainer spread themselves thin enough to campaign on all issues they'd at most be giving a token glance towards each issue a day. From personal experience I know that its a lot more effective to limit yourself to a small number of campaigns and campaign properly, and help others as well when you get the chance. If everyone did this and all picked different campaigns we would get a lot more done. And if someone feels a particular campaign is not getting enough attention, the solution is for them to start campaigning themselves, not to criticse someone campaining for other causes for not being superwoman.