Ghalib's ghazal "Haazaron kwaashen..."

[aboosait]

Ghalib's ghazal

Haazaron kwaashen aisi ke har = khwaish pe dam nikle,
Bahut nikle mere armaan, lekin phir bhi dam nikle.

Thousands of desires, tantalizing one and all,
Many a wish have I realised; yet I yearn for more.

Nikalna khuld se aadam, ka sunte aae the lekin,
Bahut be aabroo ho kar tere kuche se ham nikle.

Often have we heard about Adam's exile from Eden,
Humiliating much more was my exit from your door.

Magar likhwae koi usko khat to ham se likhwae,
Hui subah aur kaan par dhar kar qalam nikle.

Those I thought would sympathize with my wretched state,
Turned out to be the victims of an even harsher fate.

Mahabbat mein nahin hai farq jeene aur marne ka,
Usi ko dekh kar jeete hain, jis kaafir pe dam nikle.

There is little difference in life and death when we are in love,
The same infidel sustains our life, for whom we pine to die.

Kahaan maikhana ka darwaaza Ghalib, aur kahaan waiz,
Par itna jante hain kal woh jaata tha ke ham nikle.

The preacher and the tavern door are things wide apart,
Yet yesterday I saw him enter, as I was coming out.


Haazaron kwaashen aisi ke har khwaish pe dam nikle,
Bahut nikle mere armaan, lekin phir bhi dam nikle.

Thousands of desires, tantalizing one and all,
Many a wish have I realised; yet I yearn for more

[Medievalist]

:asta:

what is this about maikhana. these people are all like this and this and that.

**roll eyes**

*EXTREME OVERLOAD OF SARCASM*

[Love&Peace]

:asta:

what is this about maikhana. these people are all like this and this and that.

**roll eyes**

*EXTREME OVERLOAD OF SARCASM*

Medi,
May be Maikhana is in figurative way

[Medievalist]

You shudda paid attentiont o my comment abt sarcasm :smack:

[Unique1]

i like this ghazal.ghalibs ghazals r like puzzles u have to think in order to understand wat he was trying 2 say.

[aboosait]

i like this ghazal.ghalibs ghazals r like puzzles u have to think in order to understand wat he was trying 2 say.

What in your opinion was he trying to say?

[aboosait]

i like this ghazal.ghalibs ghazals r like puzzles u have to think in order to understand wat he was trying 2 say.

Here is what Allah s.w.t. says in the Qur'an: about poets:

Surah Ash-Shu'ara (The Poets)

26:224

وَالشُّعَرَاء يَتَّبِعُهُمُ الْغَاوُونَ
And as for the poets [99] [they, too, are prone to deceive themselves: and so, only] those who are lost in grievous error would follow them. (


26:225

لَمْ تَرَ أَنَّهُمْ فِي كُلِّ وَادٍ يَهِيمُونَ

Art thou not aware that they roam confusedly through all the valleys [of words and thoughts], أَ

26:226

وَأَنَّهُمْ يَقُولُونَ مَا لَا يَفْعَلُونَ

and that they [so often] say what they do not do [or feel]?

26:227

إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَذَكَرُوا اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا وَانتَصَرُوا مِن بَعْدِ مَا ظُلِمُوا وَسَيَعْلَمُ الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا أَيَّ مُنقَلَبٍ يَنقَلِبُونَ

[Most of them are of this kind ] save those who have attained to faith, and do righteous deeds, and remember God unceasingly, and defend them*selves [only] after having been wronged, and [trust in God’s promise that] those who are bent on wrong*doing will in time come to know how evil a turn their destinies are bound to take!

[Debater]

Ghalib's ghazal

Haazaron kwaashen aisi ke har = khwaish pe dam nikle,
Bahut nikle mere armaan, lekin phir bhi dam nikle.

O bhai, Ghalib say koi khandaani dushmani hai? Ya Urdu ko kaan say marore ker taang say ulta latkanay ka shauq churaya hai?

ye kuch youn hai kay

Hazaaron khahishein esi kay her khahish pay dum niklay
Bohot niklay meray armaan lekin phir bhi kum niklay

to ye hai kum niklay, kya hai? kum niklay. tum nay to is ka dum he nikaal dia khaloo.

[Hayaa]

Hazaaron khahishein esi kay her khahish pay dum niklay
Insaan ki fitrat- kabhi na content hooney wali..

[Debater]

Insaan ki fitrat- kabhi na content hooney wali..
Aray ye aap ka avatar to bara he haseen-o-jameel hai behen jee, aik dum Ghalib kay doste Debater kee terha ~ kahaan say uraya isay? avatar ko.

[aboosait]

Hazaaron khahishein esi kay her khahish pay dum niklay
Bohot niklay meray armaan lekin phir bhi kum niklay

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Typographic error regretted. My apologies. I did not mean to distort the meaning as you can see from the translation.

Thanks for pointing out. Hope it does not need any further debating.

[Hamza Momand]

what ghalib says abt his poetry

aatay hain ghaib say ye mazamin khayal may
ghalib sareer e khama nawa e sarsh hay

[aboosait]

what ghalib says abt his poetry

aatay hain ghaib say ye mazamin khayal may
ghalib sareer e khama nawa e sarsh hay

meaning?

[Hamza Momand]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamza Momand http://www.ummah.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2453049#post2453049)
what ghalib says abt his poetry

aatay hain ghaib say ye mazamin khayal may
ghalib sareer e khama nawa e sarsh hay

meaning?

"THese divine verses as i write are the hallowed revelations descending from on high the sound of scribe's pen in the stillness of night is indeed the heavenly muse uttering her immortal words.

[aboosait]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamza Momand http://www.ummah.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2453049#post2453049)
what ghalib says abt his poetry

aatay hain ghaib say ye mazamin khayal may
ghalib sareer e khama nawa e sarsh hay



"THese divine verses as i write are the hallowed revelations descending from on high the sound of scribe's pen in the stillness of night is indeed the heavenly muse uttering her immortal words.

My post #7. answers that. I have quoted from the Qur'an what Allah Subhanahu Ta'aala says about poets..

[Hamza Momand]

but i didnt say im his fan i just said wat ghalib said abt his poetry.
i like rahman baba and Alama Iqbal. i have read shaikh sadi alittle.
in ghalib poetry all u can find is maykhana.
so reading rahman baba and Alama Iqbal and shaikh sadi is haram too?

[aboosait]

but i didnt say im his fan i just said wat ghalib said abt his poetry.
i like rahman baba and Alama Iqbal. i have read shaikh sadi alittle.
in ghalib poetry all u can find is maykhana.
so reading rahman baba and Alama Iqbal and shaikh sadi is haram too?

Please quote some lines of rahman baba and others which you say could be haram. As far as I know Iqbal was not a soofi. Wallahu A'lam.

Never heard o Rahman Baba, Did you mean A.R.Rahman?

[Hamza Momand]

Please quote some lines of rahman baba and others which you say could be haram. As far as I know Iqbal was not a soofi. Wallahu A'lam.

Never heard o Rahman Baba, Did you mean A.R.Rahman?



akhi ididnt say rahman baba's poetry is haram. i thought u dont like poets at all. yeah search for him on google u can find alot of stuff abt him. he was a pashto poet.

[Pearl 99]

erm quite interesting topic.....

i knew one of the shayr by alama iqbal but i forgot it....its sumthn like kathi hai zanjeereh sumthn like that...dunno know but if ny1 knows what i am taukin about then please write it ere.

i don't know much about these poets. khair it would be interesting to see more shayr-o-shayri on this thread.

[aboosait]

erm quite interesting topic.....

..........i forgot it.... kathi hai zanjeereh sumthn like that.................

I found this on the net:

Buland hatho me zanjeeren dal dete hain

Ajeeb rasam chali hai dua na mangay koi

Could youtranslate this for me? Anyone got the complete poem?

[Hamza Momand]

when i was in college our teacher told us that iqbal has copied khushal khan khattak. he translated sum of his best work and gave it his name.i dont know i havent read khsuhal khan khattak but i have heard it not onl from my teacher but from others too.

[aboosait]

when i was in college our teacher told us that iqbal has copied khushal khan khattak. he translated sum of his best work and gave it his name.i dont know i havent read khsuhal khan khattak but i have heard it not onl from my teacher but from others too.


خوشحال خان خټک) ?

"you successfully tried to remind us about Allama Iqbal, a great philosopher, genius soul with revolutionary poetry to give a wake up call to all Muslims. Yes, Man was indeed spiritual genius of the century.

"Allama Iqbal is incomplete with out his unique,`` SHAHEEN``,(Eagle). Main theme of all his poetry encircles around , Shaheen and murd-e-Momin( a man in motion with ego).His philosophy of khudi or ego is not about arrogance or vanity,but is about self awareness, self assertion and self realization. Khudi is an electric impulse in his murd-e-momin with depth which makes him on constant move.

"Allama Iqbal, symbolized Shaheen/Eagle for courage, self respect, purity of soul, devotion, dedication, strong character, endurance, self control, self reliance, prestige which he sees in his murd-e-momin. He emphasised for his man and eagle to reach infinity where sky is not the limit and where depths of the sea are not the destiny . He wishes his murd-e-momin and eagle to conquer time and space which he regards as dust in his feet. Allama Iqbal`s mard-e-momin is a proud human with height of dignity.

"Yes, sir, Allama Iqbal was the greatest poet of all the times............No doubt about it.

"Now, look at the other side of the coin or other side of the exact picture............................
Which most of the people are unaware of or even if, they are aware of they either hide it or don`t want to admit it, b/c somehow it is embarrassing to pin point this big fact of the history.

"Our great poet and genius Allama Iqbal`s poetry is copy of khushal khan khatak`s poetry.Iqbal read Khushal Khan Khattak`s poetry`s German translations and copied them word by word in Urdu, when he was a student in Germany.And, then he presented those Khushal baba`s poems as his own. Khushal Khan Baba never got that much projection and recognition and this man, called GREAT POET ALLAMA IQBAL , who wrote the whole theme of khushal khan khattak`s poetry fooled all people all of the time and never admitted what he did in his prime days, except at the end he did admit what he did in the beginning,he admitted who was the original source of all his poetry and that man was Khushal Khan Khattak.........................

"Just have one glimpse ..................

"Iqbal was mainly influenced by Khushal baba`s poetry,`` Muhabbat mujhe un jawano se he, sitaro pe jo dalthe hain kamand,``

Khushal Khan Khattak originally said,``

``Za da hagha shazalmo zine zaregam

Che ranisee da asmaan stoori pa las

"Iqbal, studied khushal Khan`s poetry `s English and Persian translations and then adopted Khan baba`s main theme which was Khan Baba`s SHAHEEN / EAGLE and which Khushal Khan Khattak symbolized as His murd-e-momin (man of action). Iqbal`s poetry`s whole concept is based on Khan baba`s ideology.

"Khushal Khan Khattak was a genius poet, warrior and scholar with multi dimensional personality, who fought for the honour of his nation till the end and never surrendered , he used to say, `` I girded my sword for the Nang `honour` of Pakhtoons. I am the bravest of men `Khushhal Khan Khattak` of my age.``

"Khushal Khan Khattak was a versatile genius with the main theme of self identity and a national pride. Khan Baba`s poetry was matchless. Iqbal couldn`t come close to Khan baba`s gigantic personality with multiple dynamics. Khan Baba was the sun who gave his light to Iqbal and Iqbal succeeded in spreading Khan Baba`s light among common people.

"At one point,at the end of Allama Iqbal`s life, Allama admitted with little reluctance that Khan Baba`s poetry and personality was the main inspiration for Allama`s ideology. He called Khan Baba as a versatile genius with poetry, philosophy, ethics, medicine with simplicity and directness of expression with out any wickedness and with love of freedom just like Allama Iqbal.....................

"The only flaw I see in Allama`s personality is he should have accepted Khushal Khan Khattak as His mentor/hero right from the beginning. Why it took him all his life to admit the reality?

"From Khushal Khan Khattak`s biography and Allama Iqbal`s poetry

Source:http://www.chowk.com/interacts/10476/1/0/144

[Hamza Momand]

nice post akhi
i m surprised at the pashto department of university of peshawar. they arranged seminars and many programs abt khushal baba but never let this truth to be known by people.

once i was reading rahman baba's poem and i read a verse which was just like iqbal's verse
u to tu sayad be ho mirza b ho afghan b ho
and dont know remember be the other part it was like tum sabhi kuch ho kya musalman b ho.
and it was the exact copy of rahman baba.

[aboosait]

nice post akhi
i m surprised at the pashto department of university of peshawar. they arranged seminars and many programs abt khushal baba but never let this truth to be known by people.

once i was reading rahman baba's poem and i read a verse which was just like iqbal's verse
u to tu sayad be ho mirza b ho afghan b ho
and dont know remember be the other part it was like tum sabhi kuch ho kya musalman b ho.
and it was the exact copy of rahman baba.

And why do you think they should mention the name of someone who lived more than 200 years after him?

Khushal Khan Khattak (1613 - 1689)

(Pashto: خوشحال خان خټک) was a Pashtun warrior, poet and a tribal chief.

Abdur Rahman, (1651-1710)

popularly known as Rahman Baba, is the greatest mystic poet in the history of Pushto literature.

Sir Muhammad Iqbal (November 9, 1877 – April 21, 1938. )

(Urdu: محمد اقبال) was a Muslim poet, philosopher and politician born in Sialkot, British India (now in Pakistan), whose poetry in Urdu and Persian is considered to be among the greatest of the modern era.