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Kal-El
24-02-08, 02:26 AM
Amazing UFO Photographs By Pilots! Incontrovertible evidence?

Why have I chosen photographs of UFOs taken by pilots? Credibility! Unfortunately, though there have been a number of recent reports of pilots reporting UFO movements, there have been no pics taken by them from the cockpit for authentication. So I dug for more info and this is what turned up. There are more, but this would have to do for the present.

Is this incontrovertible evidence of the existence of UFOs? Or can the debunkers get to work here in an attempt to prove these sightings are nothing but hoaxes/reflections/camera malfunctions, and so on?

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Photograph by RCAF pilot Childerhose over the
Canadian Rockies near Ft. MacCleod, Alberta.
Courtesy: Hypernet

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Royal Canadian Air Force pilot R. J. Childerhose, while flying in a 4 plane formation at an altitude of about 11 km on 27-Aug-1956 7:20PM, saw and photographed a bright, sharply-defined disk, that was remaining stationary between the clouds.


Analysis (http://brumac.8k.com/RJC/RJC.html)


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Photograph by Pilot John R. English, San Jacinto,
California USA, 16-Jul-1988.
Courtesy: Hypernet.

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From the pilot's report to NUFORC:
"The photo was taken by another sailplane pilot that was flying right seat in the Mooney for that purpose (ed: to take photos of the other sailplane). The object most resembled a very bright sphere, much like a mirrored ball, with a distorted area opposite from its direction of travel."


Details of sighting (http://www.ufologie.net/htm/sanjacinto88.htm)

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Frame grab of a spectacular video of a silver disk object
recorded by a military pilot on September 29, 2001.
Courtesy: UFO Evidence.

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"I was on a flight over Budapest, Hungary," said the pilot, who has requested that his name be withheld until the official inquiry by the Hungarian Ministry of Defence is complete. "To my left I saw a bright metal aircraft that was the shape of a perfect disk. I was careful to film the object, not to try and chase it since it I could not match its speed. As I was flying a reconnaissance aircraft, I got the idea to film it and used our equipment."
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The unusual photograph was taken by the crew of an official mapping aircraft of the
Costa Rican government, flying at 10,000 feet over Lago de Cote, Arenal region.
Courtesy: forgetomori.

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“In summary, our analyses have suggested that an unidentified, opaque, aerial object was captured on film at a maximum distance of 10,000 feet. There are no visible means of lift or propulsion and no surface markings other than darker regions that appear to be nonrandom. This case must remain “open” until further information becomes available.”
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The pilot of a twin engine C-47 "Skytrain" transport
aircraft of the USAF captured this reddish object on
photograph in July 1966 at 11:00am. The aircraft was
flying over the Rocky Mountains, at about 40 kilometers
South-West of Provo, Utah.
Courtesy: ufologie.net

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A retired Air Force pilot presented two 35 mm. slides, showing a red saucer-like object against a background of sky and clouds. He claimed to have taken the pictures from the pilot's seat of a C-47 in flight before he retired from the Air Force. The witness' reputation is irreproachable.


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UFO photographed from a police plane in Puebla, Mexico, 1991.
Courtesy: The Biggest Secret Forum


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Khuram_2k?
24-02-08, 02:28 AM
im not denying UFO's or anything like that but i must say that someone with a little photoshop experience can easily make these pictures.

Kal-El
24-02-08, 02:32 AM
im not denying UFO's or anything like that but i must say that someone with a little photoshop experience can easily make these pictures.

Some were before the invention of Photoshop, but I agree, photographic and video proof to some people is not enough because a sensational thing like this will need sensational evidence.

GuCcI
24-02-08, 02:43 AM
i knew this would be a kal thread and it had something to do with aliens :D

al_islam
24-02-08, 03:08 AM
The likely hood of man being related to an ape is higher than that of the existence of UFO's....

Islamiyyah
24-02-08, 03:41 AM
I have seen a UFO twice, the second time very closely and clearly and it made a very weird sound. I have always believed in aliens and Allah aza wa jaal does say Lord of the worlds, Allahu Allam.

Humanoid
24-02-08, 03:42 AM
Yeah man and ape are related, so what?

BTW sorry to be a pedant , but UFOs and Space Aliens ( which is what you meant) arent synonymous.

Islamiyyah
24-02-08, 03:48 AM
Yeah man and ape are related, so what?

BTW sorry to be a pedant , but UFOs and Space Aliens ( which is what you meant) arent synonymous.

I am a human and can have my own opinions and beliefs that may not match the likes of yours, so you might as well get over it now. I know they are different things, but what is in the machines? I dont know, but I do believe in both so call me crazy but thats my opinion. Also I do not hold the same opinion as you when you say we come from apes, but thats the world, we all agree to disagree.

Skavau
24-02-08, 06:07 AM
There are more convincing reports of UFOs which are not poor quality pictures.

See the Valentich Disappearance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentich_Disappearance)

faishaan
24-02-08, 08:18 AM
well i do belive UFO exsist..although i dunno if these air crafts are piloted by aliens or hummans

BARAA IBN MALIK
24-02-08, 08:18 AM
I have seen a UFO twice, the second time very closely and clearly and it made a very weird sound. I have always believed in aliens and Allah aza wa jaal does say Lord of the worlds, Allahu Allam.

are u seriously saying u seen them flying soucaers(dont mind the spelling)
???

.: Anna :.
24-02-08, 08:29 AM
If I saw that.. i doubt i would think its an alien UFO, it just looks like a satelite or some technology thing

`asiya
24-02-08, 11:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-5-Qh7HFGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWEjYvGUJwA

me and my sons and 2 of their freinds have seen these, three of them flying in unison in zig zag formation about two years ago, they were really high up barely visible at first and within a fraction of a second flew closer.


and there was another one sighted again by a whole ferryfull of people coming in from france last month,and seems to be the same one that was seen by two areoplanes full of people not so long ago in the same area. whatever it is it was reported to be about a mile long.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/guernsey/6591365.stm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286176,00.html
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23401615-details/%27Mile-wide+UFO%27+spotted+by+British+airline+pilot/article.do


& this is ajeeb. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FeAK-q5Cok&feature=related

Tahiyah
24-02-08, 01:21 PM
i wonder if the earth were attacked by alien invaders, would nations at war with each other become united?

hmmm, maybe thats what we need to remind us all that we are ALL humans

Khuram_2k?
24-02-08, 01:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcxo_UntbYA lol

LastFriday
24-02-08, 04:45 PM
Alien Shamalien pssshhh

1 Level
24-02-08, 04:48 PM
we need to get mulder n scully on this asap lol

Joha
24-02-08, 04:58 PM
The Xindi are coming......should we be asking the vulcans for help?

Get over it people, it's not that shocking.

Most of them look like photoshop jobs, and the first could be absolutely anything, a halo around a cloud or something.

Irfan al Din
24-02-08, 05:11 PM
Well, I have no problem believing there are UFOs... I just tend not to speculate about what they are...

xris
24-02-08, 05:55 PM
The Xindi are coming......should we be asking the vulcans for help?

Get over it people, it's not that shocking.

Most of them look like photoshop jobs, and the first could be absolutely anything, a halo around a cloud or something.so out of the thousands that get reported all can be accounted for?

perfectpearl
24-02-08, 06:06 PM
maybe its like a made up newly invented plane ... to scare the people

there are no aliens... if anyone belives so - they watch toooooo much movies ;)

xris
24-02-08, 06:11 PM
maybe its like a made up newly invented plane ... to scare the people

there are no aliens... if anyone belives so - they watch toooooo much movies ;)was that supposed to be a considered remark or just humourous?

perfectpearl
24-02-08, 06:16 PM
was that supposed to be a considered remark or just humourous?

no i was serious at first... maybe it is a newly invented way to fly.. you never know....

its defiantly not outer space weird people that made it

Skavau
24-02-08, 06:20 PM
The Xindi are coming......should we be asking the vulcans for help?

Get over it people, it's not that shocking.

Most of them look like photoshop jobs, and the first could be absolutely anything, a halo around a cloud or something.

I agree. The worst way to support your contention that UFOs exist is through pictures. They mostly look fake, photoshopped and/or of poor quality.

xris
24-02-08, 06:57 PM
no i was serious at first... maybe it is a newly invented way to fly.. you never know....

its defiantly not outer space weird people that made itso this newly invented way to fly at ten times the norm and do turns that would skin a cat,im sure they are not going to tell us or use them.

xris
24-02-08, 07:01 PM
I agree. The worst way to support your contention that UFOs exist is through pictures. They mostly look fake, photoshopped and/or of poor quality.so they are of poor quality look too sharp to be real and they are all fakes.if anything else in life had this amount of evidence it would at least be treated with respect.it does not matter who reports them if they have photos or not they are all ridiculed,why is that?

Skavau
24-02-08, 07:09 PM
so they are of poor quality look too sharp to be real and they are all fakes.if anything else in life had this amount of evidence it would at least be treated with respect.
Any examples?

Moreover, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If the pictures of the thread starter happen to be genuinely unidentified - then they are in fact, on a technicality - Unidentified Flying Objects.

However, that is not a particularly amazing feat. All that means is that we don't know what they are. A negative claim is not a positive claim for other life forces. The odds are likely that the majority of UFO photographs can either be falsified, or entirely explainable.

Other forms of evidence for 'other forces' are much more convincing. Such as the disappearance of Valentich.

xris
24-02-08, 07:16 PM
Any examples?

Moreover, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If the pictures of the thread starter happen to be genuinely unidentified - then they are in fact, on a technicality - Unidentified Flying Objects.

However, that is not a particularly amazing feat. All that means is that we don't know what they are. A negative claim is not a positive claim for other life forces. The odds are likely that the majority of UFO photographs can either be falsified, or entirely explainable.

Other forms of evidence for 'other forces' are much more convincing. Such as the disappearance of Valentich.ide accept ufos because thats what they are but to assume they are all indentifiable is ranking on blind arrogance.yes there are loads of fakes and they do blur the issue but you must try and see past those who try to make it joke and it worries me who those people might be.

perfectpearl
24-02-08, 09:20 PM
so this newly invented way to fly at ten times the norm and do turns that would skin a cat,im sure they are not going to tell us or use them.

sure why not...

sis_niqabi
25-02-08, 06:21 PM
i wonder if the earth were attacked by alien invaders, would nations at war with each other become united?

hmmm, maybe thats what we need to remind us all that we are ALL humans

i doubt it. the aliens probably wouldn't even stay long. they would get tired of humans nagging and arguing all the time. they would be like "forget ya'll we are outta here!"

Stogie
26-02-08, 07:41 PM
The likely hood of man being related to an ape is higher than that of the existence of UFO's....

Are you a scientist or a biologist ?

its just that you seem very sure of your opinion and I was just wondering how much weight i should give your words.