Sleeping With Baby in Bed

[MG]

A Very Important and Serious Reminder for those with babies or due babies

Please be careful and not sleep or fall asleep with little baby in bed with you.

One sister i know did this and she accidently slightly rolled onto part of the baby and now the baby is not moving one of her arms, docs have said they have to wait and see if the arm recovers itself....


Do not put babies in bed with u!!!

[~Imaan~]

:salams:

:eek: May ALLAH protect the baby. Aameen.

But i think it is ok if you know you dont role over in your sleep and if you are aware even whilst sleeping that there is a baby with you....Alhumdulillah, some people are very very careful :o

[MG]

:salams:

:eek: May ALLAH protect the baby. Aameen.

But i think it is ok if you know you dont role over in your sleep and if you are aware even whilst sleeping that there is a baby with you....Alhumdulillah, some people are very very careful :o


wa alaikum aslaam

we cannot know what we do in our sleep and wouldnt take a roll, u could just simply turn over (as u do in sleep) in bed and land on the baby.

Not worth the risk in my opnion.


Ameen to your duas.

[Al-Nasser]

this sister is lucky

i read about many cases where the baby...suffocated :S

[MG]

this sister is lucky

i read about many cases where the baby...suffocated :S


yes this is what i said to her family, it could have easily been alot more serious, especially when a baby is a newborn or a few weeks old.

[~Imaan~]

wa alaikum aslaam

we cannot know what we do in our sleep and wouldnt take a roll, u could just simply turn over (as u do in sleep) in bed and land on the baby.

Not worth the risk in my opnion.


Ameen to your duas.

i know sister but some people, even when they fall asleep, just by habit are careful...they are used to the fact that there is a baby next to them....i know this for a fact becoz i am myself and Alhumdulillah nothing like this has happened....

[MG]

i know sister but some people, even when they fall asleep, just by habit are careful...they are used to the fact that there is a baby next to them....i know this for a fact becoz i am myself and Alhumdulillah nothing like this has happened....

this sister thought she was being careful as well,if your prepared to risk it then its upto the parents but just a warning for everyone.

[.: Anna :.]

I know alot of people who do sleep in the same bed and recommend it...
but personally cos of the reasons u mentioned i wd worry about doing it.
only thing is if u take them in bed to feed, might b hard to stay awake cos tired... hmm even if u feed em in chair, if u fall asleep cd b dangerous cos u might drop them :eek:

[sunrise]

^ inshAllah hubby wld come n see u and pick the baby up put it in it's cot and carry you to your bed:o:up:

i was told it helps the baby feel better cause it feels safe and close but i wouldn't risk it ever! imagine we r like 1000% neavier than a baby.. subhanAllah it's the worst thing makes me feel teary:(

i agree with sis MG never! risk it, even if you think u dont move about a lot when u sleep.. jst put cot close to bed and sleep facing the baby so they can see ur face inshAllah

[MG]

I know alot of people who do sleep in the same bed and recommend it...
but personally cos of the reasons u mentioned i wd worry about doing it.
only thing is if u take them in bed to feed, might b hard to stay awake cos tired... hmm even if u feed em in chair, if u fall asleep cd b dangerous cos u might drop them :eek:

^ inshAllah hubby wld come n see u and pick the baby up put it in it's cot and carry you to your bed:o:up:

i was told it helps the baby feel better cause it feels safe and close but i wouldn't risk it ever! imagine we r like 1000% neavier than a baby.. subhanAllah it's the worst thing makes me feel teary:(

i agree with sis MG never! risk it, even if you think u dont move about a lot when u sleep.. jst put cot close to bed and sleep facing the baby so they can see ur face inshAllah


this is the best thing, keep the cot right next to your bed, that way there is no need for you to sleep with the baby in your bed.:up:

[Arsalan]

We always sleep with the baby in bed - she cries in the cot, but we keep her on the other side... I think i got the wrong type of cot , should have got the one where the side slides down and then you can put it next to the bed. Pretty bad habit i guess, should have adapted her to the cot from a young age. Anyway thanks for sharing this , even though its a bad story, may the baby fully recover . Ameen.

[MG]

We always sleep with the baby in bed - she cries in the cot, but we keep her on the other side... I think i got the wrong type of cot , should have got the one where the side slides down and then you can put it next to the bed. Pretty bad habit i guess, should have adapted her to the cot from a young age. Anyway thanks for sharing this , even though its a bad story, may the baby fully recover . Ameen.


do the sides not come down at all?

for those who are getting cots get ones where the sides come down!!

good point bro

[Arsalan]

do the sides not come down at all?

for those who are getting cots get ones where the sides come down!!

good point bro

Nah it was cheap £40 one from Ikea. :( I will invest more heavily in the future.

[MG]

Nah it was cheap £40 one from Ikea. :( I will invest more heavily in the future.


you can get ones just as cheap but with one side that comes down,so just remember next time:up:

[Pro_Candy]

Parents, especially mothers, are usually somewhat aware of babies when they are sleeping. When I was a counselor, we didn't discourage sleeping with baby, unless one or both parents were on medication, or would drink alcohol. Hurting a baby while sleeping is rare, and usually happens when a parent is on meds or something else.

Babies sleep better next to mom, and studies have shown that when babies hear mom breathing, their breathing becomes in rhythm to the mom, sometimes 'reminding' them to breath, reducing the chance of sids. Also, it's comforting for baby to hear the mom's heartbeat--something they've heard since they could actually hear.

[abdusamad]

There is a large amount of deaths reported regarding parents in sleep suffocating their babies.


So no buts, and take the advice. This is serious.

[ummbilal]

I know alot of people who do sleep in the same bed and recommend it...
but personally cos of the reasons u mentioned i wd worry about doing it.
only thing is if u take them in bed to feed, might b hard to stay awake cos tired... hmm even if u feed em in chair, if u fall asleep cd b dangerous cos u might drop them :eek:


subhannallah!!

inshaallah baby will recover well.

I had my youngest sleep with me it was easier in the first few weeks but after reading this i dont plan to do it wih the next baby inshaallah, also baby gets into a routine of needing mum close to sleep, my son is 4 1/2 and only just settled into his own bed.

you can feed baby safely next to you in bed but like i said its that worry that as we are only human the fatigue might get to you and you forget yourself at the risk to your tiny baby.

having babies cot next to you helps a lot i think,

I know one family where they all co sleep together, in one enormous bed:rubeyes: dont ask and no they are not muslim.

[ummbilal]

^ inshAllah hubby wld come n see u and pick the baby up put it in it's cot and carry you to your bed:o:up:

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better warn hubby about this then :o

[dhakiyya]

Parents, especially mothers, are usually somewhat aware of babies when they are sleeping. When I was a counselor, we didn't discourage sleeping with baby, unless one or both parents were on medication, or would drink alcohol. Hurting a baby while sleeping is rare, and usually happens when a parent is on meds or something else.

Babies sleep better next to mom, and studies have shown that when babies hear mom breathing, their breathing becomes in rhythm to the mom, sometimes 'reminding' them to breath, reducing the chance of sids. Also, it's comforting for baby to hear the mom's heartbeat--something they've heard since they could actually hear.

This is true........ At uni I went to a seminar on research like this. Babies who sleep next to mum spend less time in deep sleep and their sleep cycles synchronised with their mothers, and there was a lower incidence of SIDS in the co-sleeping babies.

Also the info from the NHS on co-sleeping says that things like medication (including legal medication from the chemist) and alcohol and smoking should be avoided completely if you co-sleep with your baby. Also if you are extremely tired they recommend avoiding co-sleeping (though what new mum isn't! :rubeyes: ) also if the bed is cramped (like mum and dad in a single bed) I don't think its a good idea

The safest way though, is to have baby next you you but not actually in your bed. All the above relates to mothers not rolling onto their baby, but there is still a risk from pillows and duvets, they can suffocate a baby or cause them to overheat. Also baby can fall out of an adult bed or get wedged between the matress and the wall. There are special cots where you can remove one side and fix it to the parents bed, so you can still cuddle baby but they have their own matress and blankets and can't fall out, and its impossible for mum to roll onto them unless she's so short she can lie lengthways in a cot.

I had my baby in a moses basket right next to the bed. not quite as practical as a cot like that. InshaAllah if I have another baby I'm going to try to see if I can get a cot like that inshaAllah.

[ummbilal]

you can just use a normal cot and take one side off, if you fix it to the edge of your bed it will work the same way inshaallah.

[dhakiyya]

you can just use a normal cot and take one side off, if you fix it to the edge of your bed it will work the same way inshaallah.

:up: will try this inshaAllah if Allah blesses me with another baby inshaAllah :up:

[.: Anna :.]

This is true........ At uni I went to a seminar on research like this. Babies who sleep next to mum spend less time in deep sleep and their sleep cycles synchronised with their mothers, and there was a lower incidence of SIDS in the co-sleeping babies.

Also the info from the NHS on co-sleeping says that things like medication (including legal medication from the chemist) and alcohol and smoking should be avoided completely if you co-sleep with your baby. Also if you are extremely tired they recommend avoiding co-sleeping (though what new mum isn't! :rubeyes: ) also if the bed is cramped (like mum and dad in a single bed) I don't think its a good idea

The safest way though, is to have baby next you you but not actually in your bed. All the above relates to mothers not rolling onto their baby, but there is still a risk from pillows and duvets, they can suffocate a baby or cause them to overheat. Also baby can fall out of an adult bed or get wedged between the matress and the wall. There are special cots where you can remove one side and fix it to the parents bed, so you can still cuddle baby but they have their own matress and blankets and can't fall out, and its impossible for mum to roll onto them unless she's so short she can lie lengthways in a cot.

I had my baby in a moses basket right next to the bed. not quite as practical as a cot like that. InshaAllah if I have another baby I'm going to try to see if I can get a cot like that inshaAllah.

oh yeah, everything is saying ur not allowed any duvets with a baby under 1, so the people who do purposely cosleep i wonder if they have to get rid of all their duvets and sleep with just blankets like what suits baby :scratch:

[ummbilal]

i used to cover baby with a blanket and make sure the duvet didnt go near him! it was summer when he was very little and summer of 2003 was HOT!!!! so wasnt really an issue until he was 3 or 4 months old and a lot bigger and able to roll over, i did get a bad back from sleeping with my arm around him every night

[MG]

you can just use a normal cot and take one side off, if you fix it to the edge of your bed it will work the same way inshaallah.


i think the cot arsalan is talking about, the side does come of itself, but what if the baby rolls? it could land on the bed and then we are back at square one, of the parent rolling onto the baby :rubeyes:


as long as the cot is next to the bed, there is no upheaval for mother or baby i feel, as your right next to each, if u find yourself falling asleep while feeding the baby, all u gotta do is quickley put him back in the cot (which is right next to your bed!) and boom done!

[ummbilal]

i think for the first 2 months rolling isnt an issue as baby cannot roll until roughly 3-4 months.

[umm_musa]

i have co slept with both my children, second more than the first and alhamdulillah we have never had any problems, even sleeping with regular duvet, co sleeping helps babies to bond with the parents and makes them feel more secure and confident (apparantly). I think individuals know best what way suits them better.
You can get wonderful bed side cots that have brakes (to prevent any gaps) and a dropside that slides neatly away under the cot, with a multi level base for different height beds. With my first child we had a hand down cot and the side had fallen off anyway so we just put it up against our bed and he slept like that, and I agree summer 2003 was soooo hot subhanAlah i remember cos DS was born in May and the summer was tough!

[ummbilal]

i have co slept with both my children, second more than the first and alhamdulillah we have never had any problems, even sleeping with regular duvet, co sleeping helps babies to bond with the parents and makes them feel more secure and confident (apparantly). I think individuals know best what way suits them better.
You can get wonderful bed side cots that have brakes (to prevent any gaps) and a dropside that slides neatly away under the cot, with a multi level base for different height beds. With my first child we had a hand down cot and the side had fallen off anyway so we just put it up against our bed and he slept like that, and I agree summer 2003 was soooo hot subhanAlah i remember cos DS was born in May and the summer was tough!


i wouldnt recommend using duvet on new born, but i agree each parent has to make their own decision, summer of 2003! my son was born in august and didnt wear anything other than a vest for about a month mashallah!

[Kasim2k7]

i used to cover baby with a blanket and make sure the duvet didnt go near him! it was summer when he was very little and summer of 2003 was HOT!!!! so wasnt really an issue until he was 3 or 4 months old and a lot bigger and able to roll over, i did get a bad back from sleeping with my arm around him every night

2003 was really hot. My baby sleeps half night in the coat and when he feels uneasy he sleeps with us and Alhamdulillah we have not had any problems. He just likes to be with his mum and sleeps. Mashallah.

[GuCcI]

also baby gets into a routine of needing mum close to sleep, my son is 4 1/2 and only just settled into his own bed.


we were all like this :o for some people it becomes impossible to rip the kid away from mom

some kids are so used to being with mom 24/7 theyre anti social and its impossible to send them to school :smack: (us too :o)

[shamson]

i have co slept with both my children, second more than the first and alhamdulillah we have never had any problems, even sleeping with regular duvet, co sleeping helps babies to bond with the parents and makes them feel more secure and confident (apparantly). I think individuals know best what way suits them better.
You can get wonderful bed side cots that have brakes (to prevent any gaps) and a dropside that slides neatly away under the cot, with a multi level base for different height beds. With my first child we had a hand down cot and the side had fallen off anyway so we just put it up against our bed and he slept like that, and I agree summer 2003 was soooo hot subhanAlah i remember cos DS was born in May and the summer was tough!

I have co-slept with all my children from the moment they were born (at night and during day naps) and the youngest of them is still with me. alhumdolilla all my children are fine.

I am a REALLY light sleeper now (since having my first child 8 yrs ago) and can hear my older children across the hall murmuring in their sleep. Wat i used to do was have a baby blanket on the baby and 2 seperate balnkets on each side for me and hubby - i was just to scared to put them in the cot during the night......

I think another factor wud be the size of the bed but most double/king beds are good enuf and leave enuf space for all 3 occupants lolzzz.

Of course bad things happen by the Qadr of Allah and it depends on individuals. The comfort of having ur baby next to u and smelling him/her and watching them as they sleep is amazing mashAllah.

[shamson]

I remember after i had my first child her cot was at the foot of the bed and my hubby wudnt let me bring her into the bed and i wud cry and cry and wen he went to sleep i wud take my pillow and sleep at the foot of the bed and put my hands on my daughters hand through the gap in the cot and sleep lolzzz after a while my hubby realised that i shud just have my own way :inlove:

[MG]

i think people need to bare in mind that even if you slept with every one of your children in your bed and nothing happened, it does not mean that the danger of these kind of incidents does not exist, we need to always be cautious and not get laid back just becos nothing happened to the previous child/children.

May Allah swt keep our children safe always ameen

[ummbilal]

i think people need to bare in mind that even if you slept with every one of your children in your bed and nothing happened, it does not mean that the danger of these kind of incidents does not exist, we need to always be cautious and not get laid back just becos nothing happened to the previous child/children.

May Allah swt keep our children safe always ameen

I agree I co slept with 2 of my children but will think twice about it now, especially as its soo difficult to get them settled in their own bed when they are so used to having you next to them.

[shamson]

i think people need to bare in mind that even if you slept with every one of your children in your bed and nothing happened, it does not mean that the danger of these kind of incidents does not exist, we need to always be cautious and not get laid back just becos nothing happened to the previous child/children.

May Allah swt keep our children safe always ameen


Is there not something called cot death? where the baby just passes away in his/her sleep etc.

I think it all depends on how u are. children can die anyhow from the Qadr of Allah, they can audhobillah jump off a table and fall on their heads and die, they can get suffocated in plastic bags etc. New born babies can have illnesses that parents are unaware of and the child dies from that etc. there are loads of risks and we have to protect our children the best we can but i do not think that co-sleeping is such a dangerous thing it all depends on u, as i mentioned in an earlier post we used to sleep with 3 blankets in the bed one for hubby, one for me and a baby blanket for the baby.

The biggest problem i have had with co-sleeping is trying to get them out of ur bed/ur room wen they are a little older!!!!!! my 3 yr old still sneaks into our bed at night lolzz

By the way as i said it depends on the person. I am a very light sleeper but for a sister/couple who are heavy sleepers it wud be real dangerous IMO. Here in yemen we have a huge bed and my hubby has one corner i have one corner and my son has one and a half pillows worth of space in the middle of us as he rolls round and round in his sleep lolzzz

[MG]

Is there not something called cot death? where the baby just passes away in his/her sleep etc.

I think it all depends on how u are. children can die anyhow from the Qadr of Allah, they can audhobillah jump off a table and fall on their heads and die, they can get suffocated in plastic bags etc. New born babies can have illnesses that parents are unaware of and the child dies from that etc. there are loads of risks and we have to protect our children the best we can but i do not think that co-sleeping is such a dangerous thing it all depends on u, as i mentioned in an earlier post we used to sleep with 3 blankets in the bed one for hubby, one for me and a baby blanket for the baby.

The biggest problem i have had with co-sleeping is trying to get them out of ur bed/ur room wen they are a little older!!!!!! my 3 yr old still sneaks into our bed at night lolzz

By the way as i said it depends on the person. I am a very light sleeper but for a sister/couple who are heavy sleepers it wud be real dangerous IMO. Here in yemen we have a huge bed and my hubby has one corner i have one corner and my son has one and a half pillows worth of space in the middle of us as he rolls round and round in his sleep lolzzz



There are cot deaths, that is due to putting your baby to sleep on its stomach i think? doesnt have to be a cot, get a moses basket or a toddler bed.

Yes children can die from plastic bags and banging their heads so what to we do as parents? we avoid and minimise those risks,we dont give them plastic bags to play with and we tell them not to jump of things when they are doing it?

im not having a go at parents who have their children sleep in their beds, just some advice, so there is no need for some to get on the defensive about it :scratch:

[~Warda~]

A Very Important and Serious Reminder for those with babies or due babies

Please be careful and not sleep or fall asleep with little baby in bed with you.

One sister i know did this and she accidently slightly rolled onto part of the baby and now the baby is not moving one of her arms, docs have said they have to wait and see if the arm recovers itself....


Do not put babies in bed with u!!!

So have they found out if the babies gonna be ok?

[MG]

So have they found out if the babies gonna be ok?


not sure becos i havent been able to speak to the sister since then,really busy :rubeyes:

Inshallah she is!

[~Warda~]

not sure becos i havent been able to speak to the sister since then,really busy :rubeyes:

Inshallah she is!

Insha-Allah. May Allah make the babies arm recover and protect all other babies from such accidents. Ameen.

[MG]

Insha-Allah. May Allah make the babies arm recover and protect all other babies from such accidents. Ameen.

ameen sis :(

[shamson]

There are cot deaths, that is due to putting your baby to sleep on its stomach i think? doesnt have to be a cot, get a moses basket or a toddler bed.

Yes children can die from plastic bags and banging their heads so what to we do as parents? we avoid and minimise those risks,we dont give them plastic bags to play with and we tell them not to jump of things when they are doing it?

im not having a go at parents who have their children sleep in their beds, just some advice, so there is no need for some to get on the defensive about it :scratch:

Sorry sis if i sounded defensive -didnt mean it - and the thing about babies sleeping on their stomachs this opinion seems to change every so often so i dont have a clue which is the recommended way to sleep now.....

[MG]

Sorry sis if i sounded defensive -didnt mean it - and the thing about babies sleeping on their stomachs this opinion seems to change every so often so i dont have a clue which is the recommended way to sleep now.....

no probs..yeh they do keep changing it, but not putting the baby on their stomachs has seem to drop cot deaths by a big margin alhumdulillah.

Little do they know Islam stated long ago that we should not sleep on our stomachs!

[saladin1970]

A Very Important and Serious Reminder for those with babies or due babies

Please be careful and not sleep or fall asleep with little baby in bed with you.

One sister i know did this and she accidently slightly rolled onto part of the baby and now the baby is not moving one of her arms, docs have said they have to wait and see if the arm recovers itself....


Do not put babies in bed with u!!!

No one can deny that western culture is anti family, and that many western laws and policies are anti family.

The reasoning behind this is that if families and communities are broken up, then the biggest impact on a child will be his peers at school and the mass media. This leads to greater social control and conditioning. The conditioning is about increasing material desire by pushing greed, selfishness and desire.

One of the ways that the west reinforces these ideas and conditioning is eroneous medical reports .

But here are the facts. For thousands of years all civilisations had their babies sleep in the same bed as their parents, whether it is japan, china, india, mexico, europe or america.
Only recently has the west come up with this idea that the child should be seperted whilst he is sleeping.

Today nearly all the people in the world, including china, india, pakistan, japan, indonesia, south america etc put the baby in the same bed as the parents.

This ensures a much closer bond between child and parents, and so increases family and hence community ties.

If there are any islamic source to whether the early muslims put the baby in the same bed, or not. I bet they did.

Put your child in your bed with you, and if there is not much room, put the husband on the floor.

[MG]

No one can deny that western culture is anti family, and that many western laws and policies are anti family.

The reasoning behind this is that if families and communities are broken up, then the biggest impact on a child will be his peers at school and the mass media. This leads to greater social control and conditioning. The conditioning is about increasing material desire by pushing greed, selfishness and desire.

One of the ways that the west reinforces these ideas and conditioning is eroneous medical reports .

But here are the facts. For thousands of years all civilisations had their babies sleep in the same bed as their parents, whether it is japan, china, india, mexico, europe or america.
Only recently has the west come up with this idea that the child should be seperted whilst he is sleeping.

Today nearly all the people in the world, including china, india, pakistan, japan, indonesia, south america etc put the baby in the same bed as the parents.

This ensures a much closer bond between child and parents, and so increases family and hence community ties.

If there are any islamic source to whether the early muslims put the baby in the same bed, or not. I bet they did.

Put your child in your bed with you, and if there is not much room, put the husband on the floor.

:rotfl:



bro i didnt say never put your baby in bed with you and i dont think anyone in the west has said not to do it either, correct me if im wrong .....:rubeyes:


Just some naseeha to be cautious when doing so, as u can see from the above example, accidents can occur unfortunately.

[shamson]

No one can deny that western culture is anti family, and that many western laws and policies are anti family.

The reasoning behind this is that if families and communities are broken up, then the biggest impact on a child will be his peers at school and the mass media. This leads to greater social control and conditioning. The conditioning is about increasing material desire by pushing greed, selfishness and desire.

One of the ways that the west reinforces these ideas and conditioning is eroneous medical reports .

But here are the facts. For thousands of years all civilisations had their babies sleep in the same bed as their parents, whether it is japan, china, india, mexico, europe or america.
Only recently has the west come up with this idea that the child should be seperted whilst he is sleeping.

Today nearly all the people in the world, including china, india, pakistan, japan, indonesia, south america etc put the baby in the same bed as the parents.

This ensures a much closer bond between child and parents, and so increases family and hence community ties.

If there are any islamic source to whether the early muslims put the baby in the same bed, or not. I bet they did.

Put your child in your bed with you, and if there is not much room, put the husband on the floor.

Very right and funny ending lolzz

[dhakiyya]

:rotfl:



bro i didnt say never put your baby in bed with you and i dont think anyone in the west has said not to do it either, correct me if im wrong .....:rubeyes:


Just some naseeha to be cautious when doing so, as u can see from the above example, accidents can occur unfortunately.

Yes this is right in what you have said....... if you are on any medication at all, even legal medication from the chemist, or if you smoke you should not co-sleep because these increase the risk of rolling over onto baby. Also if you co-sleep the baby should not have pillows or duvets, just a firm flat matress and blankets. Note in light of the post from Saladin that these things that are most significant in putting a cosleeping baby at risk are recent inventions.

however I agree with you MG that we should be careful - it would be foolhardy to assume that no mother ever rolled over onto her baby. In fact infant mortality dropped rapidly when babies were removed from their parents beds and put in cots - but that was more to do with hygiene than anything else. The infant mortality among the poor in Britain during the industrial revolution was almost 50%, and it decreased rapidly with the introduction of a combination of things inlcluding sterilising feeding equipment and having baby in a separate, clean bed. They also introduced rigid feeding routines. However it was widely believed that all these measures were necessary for babies to thrive and such things as rigid routines, baby sleeping alone and being left to cry for long periods were only questioned more recenty in the sixties and seventies. So this explains the fear of cosleeping among westerners, and why it was abandoned.

The scientific evidence on whether cosleeping poses a risk to the baby is not conclusive - some research shows that it reduces the incidence of SIDS, other research shows that there is a danger of babies being rolled onto or suffocated by duvets and pillows, but the danger of rolling is more associated with the use of drugs including tobacco and over the counter drugs.

Every parent should do whatever they can to ensure s safe place for baby to sleep, and if they choose to co-sleep then there are many steps that should be taken to ensure baby is safe inshaAllah.

[MG]

Yes this is right in what you have said....... if you are on any medication at all, even legal medication from the chemist, or if you smoke you should not co-sleep because these increase the risk of rolling over onto baby. Also if you co-sleep the baby should not have pillows or duvets, just a firm flat matress and blankets. Note in light of the post from Saladin that these things that are most significant in putting a cosleeping baby at risk are recent inventions.

however I agree with you MG that we should be careful - it would be foolhardy to assume that no mother ever rolled over onto her baby. In fact infant mortality dropped rapidly when babies were removed from their parents beds and put in cots - but that was more to do with hygiene than anything else. The infant mortality among the poor in Britain during the industrial revolution was almost 50%, and it decreased rapidly with the introduction of a combination of things inlcluding sterilising feeding equipment and having baby in a separate, clean bed. They also introduced rigid feeding routines. However it was widely believed that all these measures were necessary for babies to thrive and such things as rigid routines, baby sleeping alone and being left to cry for long periods were only questioned more recenty in the sixties and seventies. So this explains the fear of cosleeping among westerners, and why it was abandoned.

The scientific evidence on whether cosleeping poses a risk to the baby is not conclusive - some research shows that it reduces the incidence of SIDS, other research shows that there is a danger of babies being rolled onto or suffocated by duvets and pillows, but the danger of rolling is more associated with the use of drugs including tobacco and over the counter drugs.

Every parent should do whatever they can to ensure s safe place for baby to sleep, and if they choose to co-sleep then there are many steps that should be taken to ensure baby is safe inshaAllah.


jazakallah for that informative post sis.

:up:

[MG]

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can both of u please watch wat u write:rolleyes:

[um-salwa]

lots of mothers sleep with their babies but it does sound very dangerous. Why would anyone want to put the baby in danger....... so i say be safe

[Omar Mukhtar]

Sleeping mother 'suffocated baby'

A seven-week-old baby died after her mother fell asleep on a sofa and suffocated her, an inquest has heard.

The hearing at Nottingham Coroner's Court was told Kelly Brailsford accidentally smothered baby Tamzin at their home in Blidworth, Notts.

Kelly had fallen asleep while she was watching television.

Coroner Dr Nigel Chapman was told the cause of death was "mechanical asphyxia". He recorded a verdict of accidental death.

He said: "I would warn parents and relatives of babies and young children to be very careful and make sure they do not keep their children with them when they go to sleep.

"If they think they could fall asleep, then they should remove the baby or child to a cot where they are on their own and can sleep safely."

[MG]

Sleeping mother 'suffocated baby'

A seven-week-old baby died after her mother fell asleep on a sofa and suffocated her, an inquest has heard.

The hearing at Nottingham Coroner's Court was told Kelly Brailsford accidentally smothered baby Tamzin at their home in Blidworth, Notts.

Kelly had fallen asleep while she was watching television.

Coroner Dr Nigel Chapman was told the cause of death was "mechanical asphyxia". He recorded a verdict of accidental death.

He said: "I would warn parents and relatives of babies and young children to be very careful and make sure they do not keep their children with them when they go to sleep.

"If they think they could fall asleep, then they should remove the baby or child to a cot where they are on their own and can sleep safely."


:( so sad.

Even though people say they are careful when with baby and take all the necessary precautions, what you have to bare in mind is that these incidents are not intentional , they happen without u realising :nervous:

[dhakiyya]

The midwives where I had Ruqayya always warned about not falling asleep on the sofa with baby. Apparently theres a much greater risk of suffocating a baby if you both fall asleep on a sofa, than on a flat bed with a firm matress. Maybe the baby gets jammed between the parent and the back of the sofa or something? Plus when you fall asleep on the sofa its accidental so no chance of taking precautions to keep baby safe. But its so easy to do, especially as looking after a tiny baby is so exhausting!

[shamson]

The midwives where I had Ruqayya always warned about not falling asleep on the sofa with baby. Apparently theres a much greater risk of suffocating a baby if you both fall asleep on a sofa, than on a flat bed with a firm matress. Maybe the baby gets jammed between the parent and the back of the sofa or something? Plus when you fall asleep on the sofa its accidental so no chance of taking precautions to keep baby safe. But its so easy to do, especially as looking after a tiny baby is so exhausting!

subhanallah that is scary of course sofas tend to be soft and cushiony and i can imagine a baby getting squashed:( But yes wat u say about beds is correct mashAllah. Big difference:up:

[naila-k]

I wish my baby would sleep without me in her bed!

[Reema]

I wouldnt let my baby sleep in the same room as me and my husband, let alone in my own bed. It depends what you get a child used to, the more they sleep on your bed with you, the more they get used to it and likewise if they have their own bed, they grow up and get used to sleeping in no where but their own bed. When I was growing up, I never ever slept next to my parents and if I even attempted to, Id get an earful from my mum and yet me and my parents have a very strong relationship. Some children are difficult and fear sleeping alone because they think the boogyman might come and eat them but with some reassurance that this wont happen, it gets easier. Set a system and a routine and get them used to sleeping on their own. Thats my two cents.

[Ebony]

I dont think I could sleep a wee baby in a separate room :-/ Be too worried and think all sorts of things have happened :smack:

[Reema]

I dont think I could sleep a wee baby in a separate room :-/ Be too worried and think all sorts of things have happened :smack:

Nothing ever happened to me or my 4 brothers!!!!!!!!! Plus there were those monitor things and the sound things and my parents constantly checked on us too so it wasnt really a problem.

[Ebony]

I think from 18months onwards, probably. But before that I personally couldnt fathom the thought of it :o

[Reema]

I think from 18months onwards, probably. But before that I personally couldnt fathom the thought of it :o

Yeah I guess it depends on the individual and what they think of it, my mum always had it her way or no way at all and it worked best for her in the end.

[naila-k]

I dont have the option of putting the baby in naother room, we live in one room in my inlaws house, there's hardly enough space to put her things in our room

[ze leetle elper]

I don't think putting a young baby in a seperate room will be a happy time for mummy or baby! They will wake for feeds several times a night and if mum has the energy to trudge off to the next room each time then well done to her! Most mums will be grateful to grab baby from the cot net to the bed, feed and put her back with minimal effort lol :p

When our daughter was just born, I had her in a moses basket next to the bed then when she got too big for it, we had her cot in the same room. :up:

[cheeky]

Assalamu alaikum

Omg thats quite scary! I have my baby in my bed but i wont sleep till she's finished feeding/changed and ready to go back into her own bed. I might lie down with her and will be extremely tird but will stop myself from falling asleep untill she's fast asleep. This happens twice a night, and takes an hour each time. She sleeps late, awake 2 hours a night so im ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ by morning lol.