Sisters - Be Careful

[al_islam]

I dont usually feel anything and its pretty hard to get a reaction out of me,

But this made me grind my teeth:

Bismillah

I have noticed many sisters putting pins in their mouth as they wear their hijabs, this is very dangerous. We have a sister who is right now undergoing emergency surgery to remove a pin from her lung. She is a pious lady and is showing much patience but please make duas for her to get better.

Ja'zakum Allahukhair

FROM: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30885&highlight=sisters+be+careful

[GuCcI]

:eek:

omg how did that happen?! :rubeyes:

my pins are always in my mouth :(

i hope shes gonna be okay :(

[GAL-actic]

:eek:

omg how did that happen?! :rubeyes:

my pins are always in my mouth :(

i hope shes gonna be okay :(

:rubeyes: wow

yeah me 2

[LastFriday]

:shock: MY MOM DOES THAT!! I always knew it was dangerous!

[perfectpearl]

Ouch!!! :(

[Tranquillity]

i never put pins in my mouth- not hygenic and worried I might swallow one like this poor sister!

if I haven't got somewhere in front of me to put them down then I'll pin them on the front of my abaya and take them off as i need them!

[sis_niqabi]

Salam

this is kinda hard for me to believe. because if someone swallowed a pin accidental, it would not wind up in the lung. it would wind up in the stomach like everything else that is swallowed. of course even a pin be swallowed to the stomach is still dangerous because it could pierce the esophagus and stomach. but i highly doubt it would up in the lung

[1 Level]

whats wrong with settling them down on the table or somewhere else:confused:

I pray the sister involved comes out of it with the least amount of pain Insha'Allah.

[peace2u]

Subhan Allah :eek: May Allah (swt) help her. No more pins in mouth for me :eek:


Peace

[Arrakis]

It's not just pins in the mouth, anyone ever put on their earings and hold the back in between their lips whilst poking the earing in?

It just makes it easier to reach when you are in a rush, I can see how it's dangerous, but EVERYTHING is dangerous in reality. Sleeping is dangerous, crossing a road is dangerous, sitting in your garden is dangerous as you could get hit by a meteorite.

Things happen.

I hope she gets better though. :(

[Hayaa']

Subhan Allah :eek: May Allah (swt) help her. No more pins in mouth for me :eek:


Peace

DITTO :o

[Jihaan]

I stick them on my jumper

[muslimma]

i'm always doing that...:rolleyes:

if the stories true then may allah give her fast recovery

ameen :love:

[scribble]

I put them somewhere. Then kind of forget, then go on a frantic search for them and then find them and have to redo my hijaab and hold it in poistion, I put my pins down again, if I remember where I put them, I can move on, if I don't; the cycle begins again.

Ameen to the duas.

[sunrise]

:o:omy mum is FOREVER telling me off for doing this...

i think i just need to make a conscious effort... it's just really handy when your trying make the hijab straight:torture:

i think pin them on to ur sleeve or something or put them dwn inshAllah

[ajnabee]

i always put hijab pins in my mouth if im re-adjusting my scarf! :eek:

and i always get people asking if i have ever poked my head with the pin! :rolleyes:

[Stylish-Girly]

Everyone puts pins in their mouth, Allah grant the sister shifa, Al islam bro you're back, how does it feels

[Loobna]

i always put hijab pins in my mouth if im re-adjusting my scarf! :eek:


me too...but its not my mum who tells me off for doing this - my little brother does :o lol I think he got the idea from when when we told him he cant walk around with a lollipop in his mouth because he might trip and then choke on it.

[al_islam]

Salam

this is kinda hard for me to believe. because if someone swallowed a pin accidental, it would not wind up in the lung. it would wind up in the stomach like everything else that is swallowed. of course even a pin be swallowed to the stomach is still dangerous because it could pierce the esophagus and stomach. but i highly doubt it would up in the lung

Its a pin.

Its sharp.

It can cut through your throat.

Its not like your breaking the pin down in your mouth by chewing it.

It could end up anywhere, even in the stomach it could probably pierce through its way to the intestine.....would you like more blood and guts ?

[bint]

This happened to a mate..I made her laugh..cracked some stupid joke and she swollowed the pin. all they did was pump her stomache.

Which pins are you guys talking about anyways?

[Khuram_2k?]

doesnt matter what pin, any kind of pin is dangerous

I hope the sister makes a good recovery *if this is true-for her sake i hope it isnt*

[GuCcI]

I stick them on my jumper

i would do that if i wasnt so scared of poking myself :scratch: which is strange cuz i never thought of anything going wrong with the pin in my MOUTH :rubeyes:

[bint]

It does matter what pin. Is their a crime in asking?

[Raziel]

I dont usually feel anything and its pretty hard to get a reaction out of me,

But this made me grind my teeth:



FROM: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30885&highlight=sisters+be+careful

May Allah Ta'ala grant her a Shifa and a Full recovery, and May our sisters abstain from such dangerous acts ...

Ameen!

:jkk:

[Zesty]

May Allah (swt) grant her shifa. Its a case of suddenly inhaling and then the pin getting stuck in the lung or where ever. It isnt un heard of so yeh- just be abit careful. Especially the case if youre asthmatic.

[sis_niqabi]

Its a pin.

Its sharp.

It can cut through your throat.

Its not like your breaking the pin down in your mouth by chewing it.

It could end up anywhere, even in the stomach it could probably pierce through its way to the intestine.....would you like more blood and guts ?

a pin cannot travel through different organs and tissues though. a pin is sharp but it would not go outside the esophagus or stomach. nor could it travel all the way to the lungs.

[UniQue_BeDouin]

allah yesh fee yah wow now ive learnt from some one elses mistake :P

[GuCcI]

a pin cannot travel through different organs and tissues though. a pin is sharp but it would not go outside the esophagus or stomach. nor could it travel all the way to the lungs.

who knows maybe wen Allah wills it can happen?

[stephenoskie]

I dont put em in my mouth but between my lips onli sme tymz

[al_islam]

a pin cannot travel through different organs and tissues though. a pin is sharp but it would not go outside the esophagus or stomach. nor could it travel all the way to the lungs.

The windpipe, trachea, runs all the way down your body starting at the mouth

We breathe and eat through the same orifice, and so it is likely that the more delictae tissues with only basolateral membranes may well be pierced.

All the way down the lungs is a little far fetched, however, the more delicated tissus, under your cheeks can also be cut and they are more readily damaged, even if the pin doesn't travel all the way down your throat.

[stephenoskie]

The windpipe, trachea, runs all the way down your body starting at the mouth

We breathe and eat through the same orifice, and so it is likely that the more delictae tissues with only basolateral membranes may well be pierced.

All the way down the lungs is a little far fetched, however, the more delicated tissus, under your cheeks can also be cut and they are more readily damaged, even if the pin doesn't travel all the way down your throat.

Wow Mashallah great detailed response :D

[xyz]

I know somebody who had to undergo surgery to remove a pin from her stomach, it started rusting due to the acids in the tummy

[Soljaress]

I stick them on my jumper


me 2 ......

[stephenoskie]

I know somebody who had to undergo surgery to remove a pin from her stomach, it started rusting due to the acids in the tummy

ewwwww thats sounds painful and nasty :( was she alright tho ????

[xyz]

ewwwww thats sounds painful and nasty :( was she alright tho ????
Aye alhamdulillah she was fine once theyd removed it

[dhakiyya]

there is no reason why a pin could not enter the lungs with a sharp intake of breath - small kids have inhaled various objects. though its unlikely anything that big would reach the alveoli in the lungs.

[stephenoskie]

Aye alhamdulillah she was fine once theyd removed it

Thats okay then i bet she never did that agin

there is no reason why a pin could not enter the lungs with a sharp intake of breath - small kids have inhaled various objects. though its unlikely anything that big would reach the alveoli in the lungs.


Yep agreed it depends tho the tort of it frightens me

[sis_sarah]

oh yh its true... happened to my cousin sister too once ages ago... got stuck in the oesophagus and they had to operate...
so yh dnt do it!

[stephenoskie]

oh yh its true... happened to my cousin sister too once ages ago... got stuck in the oesophagus and they had to operate...
so yh dnt do it!


Whats that ?

[sis_sarah]

Whats that ?

the food tube leading dwn to the stomach...
someone correct me if im wrong?

[stephenoskie]

the food tube leading dwn to the stomach...
someone correct me if im wrong?

woah I still dont under stand why they would put it in there mouths to put them selves at riskn

[sis_sarah]

woah I still dont under stand why they would put it in there mouths to put them selves at riskn

lol yh me 2

crazy huh?

[al_islam]

Check this for the trachea structure:

http://www.medicalook.com/systems_images/trachea.jpg

Food Pipe:

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=4483

theres always a chance that anything swallowed may go down the air pipe and suffocate someone to death. thats why kids need to sit down and eat.

if anything does get stuck in the food pipe or the oesophagus then the heimmlich maouvre is needed to push it out.

anythings possible tho.

[xyz]

Check this for the trachea structure:

http://www.medicalook.com/systems_images/trachea.jpg

Food Pipe:

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=4483

theres always a chance that anything swallowed may go down the air pipe and suffocate someone to death. thats why kids need to sit down and eat.

if anything does get stuck in the food pipe or the oesophagus then the heimmlich maouvre is needed to push it out.

anythings possible tho.

Either ur a medic or incredibly sad lol :p

[al_islam]

Either ur a medic or incredibly sad lol :p

who knows ?

[xyz]

who knows ?
Ur a medic

[al_islam]

Ur a medic

says who ?

[dhakiyya]

Check this for the trachea structure:

http://www.medicalook.com/systems_images/trachea.jpg

Food Pipe:

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=4483

theres always a chance that anything swallowed may go down the air pipe and suffocate someone to death. thats why kids need to sit down and eat.

if anything does get stuck in the food pipe or the oesophagus then the heimmlich maouvre is needed to push it out.

anythings possible tho.


not on little kids though! theres a different procedure for small children and another for babies - parents should learn this inshaAllah - you can get first aid info from st johns ambulance, i'm sure they have a website

[al_islam]

not on little kids though! theres a different procedure for small children and another for babies - parents should learn this inshaAllah - you can get first aid info from st johns ambulance, i'm sure they have a website

little kids, you gently tap on their backs in a specific place. obviously you arent going to grab a child and start pushing on its weak rib cage.

its basic first aid.

[zain2889]

Ouch i hope she is ok....

That sounds very dangerous

[ummbilal]

Salam

this is kinda hard for me to believe. because if someone swallowed a pin accidental, it would not wind up in the lung. it would wind up in the stomach like everything else that is swallowed. of course even a pin be swallowed to the stomach is still dangerous because it could pierce the esophagus and stomach. but i highly doubt it would up in the lung

she might have breathed it in if her mouth was partly open, Allah give her sabr and a speedy recovery.

[mohammad16]

uff yea, not jus pins they tend to put alot of other things in thier mouth, its not safe, please refrain

[al_islam]

Bro im thinking of doing an experiment where sisters swallow pins and telling us where they end up. What do you think ?

(Just to see if it is really true)

[`asiya]

what i want to know is how did they keep their khimar attached to their heads back in the days before we had multi packs of sewing pins readily available...

[al_islam]

sellotape ?
glue ?
saliva ?

[Rosalie-Beauty]

what i want to know is how did they keep their khimar attached to their heads back in the days before we had multi packs of sewing pins readily available...


hmm...I'd say they probably just wrapped it around their heads and tucked it in at the throat. :rolleyes:

But a pin going in the lung, that's scary! And to think I put pins in my mouth every day when I'm rushing in the morning! :(

[Medievalist]

Salam

this is kinda hard for me to believe. because if someone swallowed a pin accidental, it would not wind up in the lung. it would wind up in the stomach like everything else that is swallowed. of course even a pin be swallowed to the stomach is still dangerous because it could pierce the esophagus and stomach. but i highly doubt it would up in the lung

actually it is entirely possible that something as small and as slender as a pin can drop into the lungs before a persons cough reflex has time to respond. Its one of the dangers that students in dentistry are taught pretty early on that when carrying out treatments, especially under anaesthetic, there is always a greater risk of material enterring the lung. nice . :)

[Tahiyah]

word of advice while holding the pin in your lips: keep your teeth clenched

[Lambo5688]

wow, she must be in pain, hope she recovers soon inshallah

[Asma-SE]

Oh Subhanallah, the same thing happened to my friend, she swollewed it, went to the hospital but they told her to wait till it errr... reappeared:rubeyes:

[Umm_Hanzalah]

Oh Subhanallah, the same thing happened to my friend, she swollewed it, went to the hospital but they told her to wait till it errr... reappeared:rubeyes:

My sister swallowed a pin today :|. It's a bit late right now, inshAllah she will see a doc tomorrow. We're a bit worried about it.......I wonder if you know what happened with the sister you knew?

[bint]

My sister swallowed a pin today :|. It's a bit late right now, inshAllah she will see a doc tomorrow. We're a bit worried about it.......I wonder if you know what happened with the sister you knew?


Wait till tom? These things dont wait to carry on swimming down into ure stomache or lungs etc? You have to get to A&E ASAP, its not a small matter.

[DALEHYR]

I agree, you should get this checked out as soon as possible Insha'ALLAH. With the pin, it could make cuts inside causing infections when being passed along etc (ALLAH Rahemkhareh) so i think its best to atleast get a professional confirmation on this. Take care Insha'ALLAH... :)

[Supernova Nebula]

My sister swallowed a pin today :|. It's a bit late right now, inshAllah she will see a doc tomorrow. We're a bit worried about it.......I wonder if you know what happened with the sister you knew?

OMG arent there 24 hour private clinics here in the UK? This is the only thing that im not comfortable with, with the UK.

[`asiya]

there is sis, dont worry, u can go to the A & E ( accident and emergency department ) of a hospital day or night insha Allah :up:

[Supernova Nebula]

there is sis, dont worry, u can go to the A & E ( accident and emergency department ) of a hospital day or night insha Allah :up:

good to hear then, I miss Malaysia when it comes to health issue, private clinic is everywhere (and affordable too, mind you), make it easier if there is emergency such as this. I had terrible time when I had hayfever before, never in my life I had to go to pharmacy to buy medicine without consulting doctor first and I've been hearing that your NHS sucks.

[Umm_Hanzalah]

double post

[Umm_Hanzalah]

I got my sis to drink some water...went to the A&E, they did an x-ray and the pin was located at the bottom of her stomach...the doc said that because she swallowed it, it will most likely come out the normal way of digestion. If it does cause any problems, she would most likely feel the symptoms of pain, sickness or fever, alhamdulillah she's doing ok so far....

I guess she's learnt now to put pins in her mouth now.....

[razz]

salamz, my sis in law who was a dr. once had a patient who had a needle in her mouth while she was sewing something and then she had sneezed and swallowed the needle in the process and it was quite an ordeal.
so do be careful everyone!!

[athila]

may allah help her to overcome everything.allah will help her iam sure(insha allah.)

[juventino]

To the sis/bro who said the pin can't go down your lung; it is very much possible for nearly anything in your mouth to go down your right main bronchus with a quick inspiration. It explains why the Prophet (PBUH) warned against talking or laughing with food in one's mouth, not only because it looks gross.

I've had to deal with such accidents more often than not in the ER. Alhamdulilah, the outcome is usually favorable. Still, sharp objects are always dangerous. I never use those ball-end pins on my hijab ever. Even if I did, my mouth is the last place I'd put them in. Open end needles scare me, anyway :(

May Allah grant the sister in question a full recovery and may it only serve to strengthen her iman. A'meen.

[PiElle2]

i've always wondered why the girls put pins on their head, which is close to their brains... which is bad enough i thought, but put in their mouth and accidentally swallow...? :rubeyes:i can't imagine myself sticking pins on my head let alone put in my mouth... what are the chances of the accident happening if you do this on a daily basis, well... not difficult to count, at least once in a lifetime. i wish someone would start a campaign to warn girls to stop doing it... is it an even an islamic compulsory practise to wear pins on their heads...?

[`asiya]

lol but pielle how will we keep our scarves on our heads without pins :S i was so happy when a sister told me the secret of keeping our scarves on. its windy where i live next to the ocean and if i dont pin my scarf it becomes a blindfold in a gust of wind which can be very dangerous trying to find the kerb when ur in the middle of crossing the road with hands full of shopping bags ..as i found out one day..

[.: Anna :.]

pielle its not compulsory to use pins, but otherwise like asiya said it might not be so secure on ur head. if u hav a different style which doesn't need pins its fine.
i don't think its dangerous, its not gonna go through to your brain the pins are not soo long or sharp. plus ur not supposed to stick it in ur actual scalp just thru the material.
but pins in mouth is not a good idea

[AbuMubarak]

did anyone check this article against snopes?

[Supernova Nebula]

good to hear then, I miss Malaysia when it comes to health issue, private clinic is everywhere (and affordable too, mind you), make it easier if there is emergency such as this. I had terrible time when I had hayfever before, never in my life I had to go to pharmacy to buy medicine without consulting doctor first and I've been hearing that your NHS sucks.

sorry in case people got me wrong, lol, no, private clinics in Malaysia are not for rich people, rich people go to to private hospitals.

[Kal-El]

I got my sis to drink some water...went to the A&E, they did an x-ray and the pin was located at the bottom of her stomach...the doc said that because she swallowed it, it will most likely come out the normal way of digestion.

Isn't that...a problem? I mean, it's a pin

[PiElle2]

lol but pielle how will we keep our scarves on our heads without pins :S i was so happy when a sister told me the secret of keeping our scarves on. its windy where i live next to the ocean and if i dont pin my scarf it becomes a blindfold in a gust of wind which can be very dangerous trying to find the kerb when ur in the middle of crossing the road with hands full of shopping bags ..as i found out one day..

pielle its not compulsory to use pins, but otherwise like asiya said it might not be so secure on ur head. if u hav a different style which doesn't need pins its fine.
i don't think its dangerous, its not gonna go through to your brain the pins are not soo long or sharp. plus ur not supposed to stick it in ur actual scalp just thru the material.
but pins in mouth is not a good idea

i use the double wrap and tug under chin with hair clip at the moment, haven't really dare to use the pins yet just because of the thought of it is scary... :(

[.: Anna :.]

ohh hair clips yeh i have seen people do that. i guess it does pretty much the same thing :up:

[AbuMubarak]

i guess moving this into the sisters section would be asking a bit much

[AbuMubarak]

Isn't that...a problem? I mean, it's a pin


are you trying to say that it would give a new definition to PITA?

[Umm_Hanzalah]

Isn't that...a problem? I mean, it's a pin




Erm, I don't think it will be expelled on it's own....the body is actually able to deal with these things more than we think.

[AbuMubarak]

either the body boots it out (ouch) or the body puts it somewhere and starts to grow things around it

neither is good

[Umm_Hanzalah]

either the body boots it out (ouch) or the body puts it somewhere and starts to grow things around it

neither is good

lol!