View Full Version : When segregation just ain't hip enough!
Tranquillity
17-02-08, 07:02 PM
So come on all of you fortunate (or unfortunate!) enough to have been invited to a shaadi/ walima- whaddya do when it's going to be mixed?
Personally I've come to realise that going to such an event is best avoided. I mean surely the whole point in the first place is that it's a sunnah? But so is segregation!!! :rubeyes:
Riceball
17-02-08, 07:04 PM
I never been to a wedding in my life! :)
Tranquillity
17-02-08, 07:07 PM
I never been to a wedding in my life! :)
judging by the state of a lot of 'em, you're lucky!
scribble
17-02-08, 07:11 PM
It's always been segregated, and the ones I've skipped I'm not so sure. Not so big on going to weddings see.
But err.. dudes somehow make their way over to the ladies section a lot. :rubeyes: I'm not sure why.
Tranquillity
17-02-08, 07:13 PM
It's always been segregated, and the ones I've skipped I'm not so sure. Not so big on going to weddings see.
But err.. dudes somehow make their way over to the ladies section a lot. :rubeyes: I'm not sure why.
cos they're sad and desperate to check out the ladies.. they do it in Pakistan and places like that a lot.
The worst is at mendhis, I mean they should be :torture:
Mikha’eel
17-02-08, 07:33 PM
I hate weddings. Only thing good about 'em is sometimes the food. The ones i go to have been segregated, but got Lotsa Indian music playin :rolleyes:
sister_sumera
17-02-08, 08:31 PM
I HATE mixed wedding!!!!!!!!!!
~Imaan~
17-02-08, 08:38 PM
:salams:
Some weddings these days are bad enough as it is when it comes to segregation....they are 'segregated' yet brothers seem to come and go....and then theres the cameras filming everything!:confused:
i dread to think of a wedding without 'segregation'..:nervous:
inshaAllah i would NOT attend.
Wasalaam
i dont think ive ever been to a wedding thats been fully segregated....and the ones that are 'segregated' arent really....i hate weddings....i dnt want a wedding for myself cuz of all the fitnaa that goes on...think ill elope ;)
Phoenix CG
17-02-08, 10:14 PM
On the occasions I went to these, I stayed at the table with mum and just went to eat food really, it wasn't segregated but the guys just come together anyways n we have a chat, It wasn't segregated, but there was no interaction with females...
$HugoBoss$
17-02-08, 10:16 PM
On the occasions I went to these, I stayed at the table with mum and just went to eat food really, it wasn't segregated but the guys just come together anyways n we have a chat, It wasn't segregated, but there was no interaction with females...
Yeah but people still wonder their eyes around.
Phoenix CG
17-02-08, 10:16 PM
depends on who you are, I wonder my eyes over the food and the colourful balloons and flowers.
$HugoBoss$
17-02-08, 10:19 PM
depends on who you are, I wonder my eyes over the food and the colourful balloons and flowers.
Yeah but i'm speaking about the majority and plus what to people do after they eat dinner???????? Walk around and talk to random people.
Phoenix CG
17-02-08, 10:21 PM
Yeah but i'm speaking about the majority and plus what to people do after they eat dinner???????? Walk around and talk to random people.
Uncle gees from the masjid tend to come n have a chat. Usually about education and politics.
its obvious brother pheonix goes to the cool weddings :p i LOVE wen uncle jees start talking about politics, its like the best part :D
Ibn Sina
17-02-08, 10:24 PM
its obvious brother pheonix goes to the cool weddings :p i LOVE wen uncle jees start talking about politics, its like the best part :D
O snap it is, its addicting acutally :hidban:
$HugoBoss$
17-02-08, 10:25 PM
Uncle gees from the masjid tend to come n have a chat. Usually about education and politics.
I have those chats as well but thats not the point :coolbro:
And than those same uncle jees ask you when your getting married right :rotfl:
Phoenix CG
17-02-08, 10:30 PM
I have those chats as well but thats not the point :coolbro:
And than those same uncle jees ask you when your getting married right :rotfl:
well if its then :p it can happen anywhere, atleast it aint the girls that ask :p or however that malarky works.
al_islam
17-02-08, 10:32 PM
its obvious brother pheonix goes to the cool weddings :p i LOVE wen uncle jees start talking about politics, its like the best part :D
one minute uncle jees discuss politics and then all of a sudden they change to something completely unrelated....like mangoes.
usually goes a little like this:
'and the shahadah of benazir was ever so sad......anyone tasted the mangoes this season ????' (random)
Phoenix CG
17-02-08, 10:33 PM
hahah, i noticed that, but thats cool cas then ur like nah n theyre like "dona zabardast dee" :rotfl:
This is turning into a 'how many proposals did you recieve' thread.
Ibn Mas'ud relates that the Prophet (saws) said, "Whoever has an atom of pride in his heart will not enter Paradise." Then one of his companions asked, "What do you say about someone who likes to dress in fine clothes?" and he answered, "Allah is beautiful and likes that which is beautiful. Arrogance is to deny reality and to consider others beneath oneself."
Abu Hurayra reports that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "There are three kinds of people Allah Most High will not address nor will He forgive on the Last Day of Judgement. They are the adulterers, lying rulers, and arrogant poor."
Allah says in the Quran “And turn not your face away from men with pride, nor walk in insolence through the earth. Verily, Allaah likes not any arrogant boaster....''
NONE of those polls really fit my opinion.
I have a few weddings to go to..This year there are 4 that are very close..extra close. And the rest Family friends..
I go - chill out, I wear my niqab, and yeah I go. I won't make music an excuse, cos I am no saint myself..so I trot along, cos I have been asked personally to go. :smack:
Anyhoo, I can't wait..as soon as the weddings are over, it's time to partayy! :p
Rosalie-Beauty
18-02-08, 02:55 AM
I dont really like weddings, its a battle ground for gossip. They were fun when I was little though (ignorance is bliss)
Nowadays there really is not such thing as a segregated wedding. Its like an oxymoron.
assalam alaikum
i am very shock and.....:rofl1: :rotfl: when i read your posts....
we never had a mixed wedding...and its not allowed.....
if any one talk about mixed marraige with my father then he will say: :lahawla:
so i guess its good that we don't do mixed marraige.. :inlove:
hanaa_al_muminah
18-02-08, 07:50 AM
its true what everyone has said already, mixed/segregated wedding have bcom a place of gossip and show off...subhanllah, its not even about the bride or her groom, its about how good was the food???etcetc....its so upsetting....:(:(:(:(
i have only been to ONE proper segregated wedding wiv nasheeds,no video camera n in MOSQUE..it was soo beautiful masha'allah n the bride was soo beautiful aswelll..masha'allah.........
all the sisters i no who are practising r looking to have a segregated weddin like the sister i talked about above...but sumx parents can make it soo difficult.....:(:(
So come on all of you fortunate (or unfortunate!) enough to have been invited to a shaadi/ walima- whaddya do when it's going to be mixed?
Personally I've come to realise that going to such an event is best avoided. I mean surely the whole point in the first place is that it's a sunnah? But so is segregation!!! :rubeyes:
I just went to a wedding and My own which had was Segregated men and women were in separate sections of the Building ...
the one I juts went to also physically prevented men from entering the Womens section and vice versa ...
there wasn't any Haram Music or the Idiotic stuff played at most Weddings ...
:sub:
therefore if it does not have Haram stuff then Insha'allah it aught to be all-right ...
the weddings before that which I went to had segregation as far tables were concerned, men and women could see each other, and the Bride/Groom was shown to the Opposite Genders, which is most certainly not Permissible ...
the Problem is Cultural Baggage, many of which come from Polytheistic Traditions/Hindu's as well some just made up ...
:jkk:
Tranquillity
18-02-08, 03:56 PM
This is turning into a 'how many proposals did you recieve' thread.
Ibn Mas'ud relates that the Prophet (saws) said, "Whoever has an atom of pride in his heart will not enter Paradise." Then one of his companions asked, "What do you say about someone who likes to dress in fine clothes?" and he answered, "Allah is beautiful and likes that which is beautiful. Arrogance is to deny reality and to consider others beneath oneself."
Abu Hurayra reports that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "There are three kinds of people Allah Most High will not address nor will He forgive on the Last Day of Judgement. They are the adulterers, lying rulers, and arrogant poor."
Allah says in the Quran “And turn not your face away from men with pride, nor walk in insolence through the earth. Verily, Allaah likes not any arrogant boaster....''
Jazak'Allah khair for the reminder sis!
Tranquillity
18-02-08, 03:59 PM
Interesting comments so far, keep 'em coming insh'Allah.
what is also annoying is that if they say it's segregated and then men are walking in and out sisters will have to keep hijab on and may have spent ages getting ready!! why can't they put on the invite: 'segregation will be for show only, if men feel like eying up the women then no-one's really gonna stop them'. That way at least you'll know not to bother going to too much effort :D
Personally I plan on getting some mahrem usefully employed as bouncers!!
Unique1
18-02-08, 06:50 PM
I don't like weddings and i don't want one either for me Nikah and a small walima wid abt 30 people whom i know and care abt is just abt enuf
I don't want 300 people running around who couldn't even care less whether i got married or not?
Another thing that makes me feel bad abt weddings nowadays is the way females dress it has gone out of order:rubeyes:
The wedding halls be full of fitna and nothing else.
And the biggest thing is you spend years covering up and then that one day ruins it all and women often justify it by saying 'it's only one day' to me that one day ruins one good deed
and all the money that gets wasted i.e£1000 on a lengha,dats a years income for a person living in Pakistan.:(
So a big lavish wedding is a no no 4 me in the first place so no issues of segregation here.
I don't like weddings and i don't want one either for me Nikah and a small walima wid abt 30 people whom i know and care abt is just abt enuf
I don't want 300 people running around who couldn't even care less whether i got married or not?
Another thing that makes me feel bad abt weddings nowadays is the way females dress it has gone out of order:rubeyes:
The wedding halls be full of fitna and nothing else.
And the biggest thing is you spend years covering up and then that one day ruins it all and women often justify it by saying 'it's only one day' to me that one day ruins one good deed
and all the money that gets wasted i.e£1000 on a lengha,dats a years income for a person living in Pakistan.:(
So a big lavish wedding is a no no 4 me in the first place so no issues of segregation here.
Ukthi the Word Wedding is Nikah ...
I think what you meant is that you don't want the Haram or Lavish Wedding celebrations ...
:jkk:
Unique1
18-02-08, 07:27 PM
yh thats wat i meant:D
Ibn Sina
18-02-08, 07:34 PM
I just went to a wedding and My own which had was Segregated men and women were in separate sections of the Building ...
the one I juts went to also physically prevented men from entering the Womens section and vice versa ...
there wasn't any Haram Music or the Idiotic stuff played at most Weddings ...
:sub:
therefore if it does not have Haram stuff then Insha'allah it aught to be all-right ...
the weddings before that which I went to had segregation as far tables were concerned, men and women could see each other, and the Bride/Groom was shown to the Opposite Genders, which is most certainly not Permissible ...
the Problem is Cultural Baggage, many of which come from Polytheistic Traditions/Hindu's as well some just made up ...
:jkk:
ooo do tell about ur wedding bro :D
ooo do tell about ur wedding bro :D
er ... :nervous: well ... :outta:
Akhi I made a fool of myself when I starred at My Wife for some time, when other people were looking at me ... :smack:
:jkk:
miss-islamic
19-02-08, 04:30 PM
^Lol, mabrook on your marriage bro. Original post -- just need to remember, if it ain’t halal, it’s crap! I would say that a wedding without music/dancing (albeit segregated) is an oxymoron where I come from...no music/dancing at all? How does that work?
Khuram_2k?
26-02-08, 10:18 PM
Pakistani weddings have all this music band culture and stuff, my bro's in pakistan and he's getting married 2morro, he's got the full works with the band 'n all that. no need for it.
BARAA IBN MALIK
03-03-08, 09:50 AM
unfortunately i have been to i think two weddings
all mixed and all that
but i was very young and i was forced to go!!!
i even wore suites but took em off when i got the chance but havnt gone to a wedding ever since no matter who:hidban:
afsalim
03-03-08, 10:37 AM
I've only been to one segregated wedding. Therefore, I don't have any problem with mixed weddings. As a matter of fact, I'm having a mixed wedding myself....
Mines the first ever segregated wedding in my family inshaAllah :) :o Hopefully it will set a new standard and inshaAllah the following weddings in my family will also be segregated with no music etc (but im not holding my breath).
I've only been to one segregated wedding. Therefore, I don't have any problem with mixed weddings. As a matter of fact, I'm having a mixed wedding myself....
Bro :) dont you want to follow the sunnah of our beloved Nabi (saw)? Marriage is such a huge thing in Islam, it is such a huge blessing and there is ssoo much barakah in doing things the right way. Im not trying to preach to you or anything but i do have a duty to point it out to you. Do you not mind that your wife will be looking her most loveliest, most beautiful on her wedding day rather than any other day and that youre letting so many ghair mehrams in a mixed environment look at her? Do you not have any Gheerah? :o My fiance doesnt want me any where near the mens section and neither will he be coming into the ladies section inshaAllah.
You are completing half your Deen, imagine the beauty, the significance, the blessings from Allah when every part of marriage from the nikkah ceremont to gathering etc is all done in accordance to Islam.
stephenoskie
03-03-08, 11:14 AM
I have beeon to ONE wedding and one wedding only.and I got to sit up on that thingy mingy with the bride :D
Bte there wasnt no guys there :fairy:
Tranquillity
03-03-08, 11:16 AM
Bro :) dont you want to follow the sunnah of our beloved Nabi (saw)? Marriage is such a huge thing in Islam, it is such a huge blessing and there is ssoo much barakah in doing things the right way. Im not trying to preach to you or anything but i do have a duty to point it out to you. Do you not mind that your wife will be looking her most loveliest, most beautiful on her wedding day rather than any other day and that youre letting so many ghair mehrams in a mixed environment look at her? Do you not have any Gheerah? :o My fiance doesnt want me any where near the mens section and neither will he be coming into the ladies section inshaAllah.
You are completing half your Deen, imagine the beauty, the significance, the blessings from Allah when every part of marriage from the nikkah ceremont to gathering etc is all done in accordance to Islam.
As far as I remember from previous posts(please correct me if I;m wrong bro Afsalim) his fiance doesn't wear hijab and he doesn't see that she needs to either...
There is a big problem with a lot of Muslims in that they believe that they are inviting their guests to take part in a sunnah (partaking in a wedding/ walima) where in fact they are inviting them to that which is haraam- free mixing.
afsalim
05-03-08, 06:02 PM
Both myself and my fiancee grew up in moderate families, went to mixed schools and universities and we both have careers where we have to work in mixed environments. Social segregation is not an issue unless you make it an issue.
toufeeq
05-03-08, 06:58 PM
The haram is clear and the halal is clear. Even if we have shortcomings we should have the humiility to admit what we may do is wrong so that happly Allah will befriend us due to our humility and perhaps make us strong to live according to how he has ordained.
I do not go if I think there will be haram music, free mixing, etc.
Ask oneself? What if the Prophet Sallallahu Alayhe wa Sallam was watching us?
I guess when I do this I realize how much of what I do is wrong.
The haram is clear and the halal is clear. Even if we have shortcomings we should have the humiility to admit what we may do is wrong so that happly Allah will befriend us due to our humility and perhaps make us strong to live according to how he has ordained.
I do not go if I think there will be haram music, free mixing, etc.
Ask oneself? What if the Prophet Sallallahu Alayhe wa Sallam was watching us?
I guess when I do this I realize how much of what I do is wrong.
:jkk: Akhi every Muslim knows it is wrong to Free-Mix, listen to Music, some however attempt to "Justify" their Evils...
If Rasulullah :saw: was witnessing this Fitna-Mongering he would probably passed Punishments, but Allah O Allum ...
toufeeq
05-03-08, 07:56 PM
Akhi he might pass punishments or he might emply mercy as his tool to guide remember he is the
Nabi al-Rahma!:saw:
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