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samiyah1983
11-02-08, 07:49 AM
salaam
i have a friend who had an argument with her husband, in anger he said its over but she pushed him by saying say talak 3 times and he did.
does this mean they are divorced, another me an another friend was disscussing the matter and how we can help her, i was advised to tell her that she needs to have intercourse with her husband 24 after he said talak but its been more than 24hr, she too embrassed to go to imam..
any advise plp
jk
when are these jaahil people going to learn:rolleyes:
you have to take this matter to somebody learned, not the internet as its a very serious issue
unique_zenab
11-02-08, 08:16 AM
salaam
i have a friend who had an argument with her husband, in anger he said its over but she pushed him by saying say talak 3 times and he did.
does this mean they are divorced, another me an another friend was disscussing the matter and how we can help her, i was advised to tell her that she needs to have intercourse with her husband 24 after he said talak but its been more than 24hr, she too embrassed to go to imam..
any advise plp
jk
he can take her back anytime as long as this was 1st or 2nd time he said it and he should say i return you with the intention that he wants her back simple
the advise u was given is nonsence unless it the 3rd time its happens i think it may apply to that but if this the 1st or 2nd time this happened then the above applies
:wswrwb: they have to go to an imam and get advise her husband should be the one to go and do that if he wants to keep his wife, marriage is no joke ( a woman has the length of her iddah which is 3 mentrual cycles to be taken back again by her husband, not 24 hours.)
from what i read it seems she pushed him to give her talak 3 times?
if he gives her talak once he can get her back by simply saying 'i take you back' or showing a display of affection i.e kissing her. same with the second talak; but this has to be done within the iddat period, before the time of iddat is over.
3rd time or 3 talaks at once; there is no going back, unless she marries again to another person, has physical relations with him then get divorced again. this is what i learnt in aalima class.
I'd advise them to tell a shaikh, marriage/divorce is no simple matter. there are many cases when the couple is divorced, the nikah is severed, but the couple are still living as husband +wife; and basically they are living in sin.
samiyah1983
11-02-08, 11:14 AM
i spoke to her yesterday she saying that he still talking to her, and so on...
she says he hasnt mentioned anything about it...
abdulhakeem
11-02-08, 11:31 AM
Divorce uttered in anger (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=22034&ln=eng)
Ruling on divorce at a moment of anger (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=45174&ln=eng)
He issued the third talaaq (divorce) and claims that he was angry (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=70342&ln=eng)
Conditional divorce and divorce in a state of extreme anger (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=82400&ln=eng)
Her husband is very bad-tempered and has divorced her three times (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=72439&ln=eng)
He swore to divorce her three times in a moment of anger (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=97015&ln=eng)
Threefold divorce counts as one according to the correct scholarly opinion (http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=96194&ln=eng)
Abdul-Curim
11-02-08, 12:00 PM
Giving talaaq (divorce) three times at once is bid’ah
Question:
Could you please let me know according to the Shafi mishep, if a man can give his wife Talaaq tree(3) times at once.
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
Giving talaaq (divorce) three times at once is bid’ah, and goes against the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “… When you divorce women, divorce them at their ‘iddah (prescribed periods)…” [al-Talaaq 65:1]. If a Muslim wants to divorce his wife, he should divorce her according to the Sunnah, which is to give one talaaq at a time when his wife is taahir (not menstruating) and he has not yet had intercourse with her following her period, or when it is clear that she is pregnant. According to the Shaafi’i madhhab and the majority of other madhhabs, giving three talaaqs at once counts as three separate talaaqs and is irrevocable, and the couple cannot remarry until the woman has been married to and divorced from another man. Other scholars say that three talaaqs given at once count as only one talaaq.
And Allaah knows best.
Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
As helpful as people posting Q&A links are, these are (generally speaking) specific to situations. Every fatwa can not be applied to 10 people in 10 differing predicaments. It is therefore best to contact a Scholar, Imam etc with the exact events and take it from there.
i spoke to her yesterday she saying that he still talking to her, and so on...
she says he hasnt mentioned anything about it...
i think the question is; how many times did he say i divorce you, and what wording did he use.
that said, i really think you should strongly recommend the couple to see a shaikh/imam, because as i said before, there are so many cases where the man gives three divorces then regretting it, brush the incident under the carpet and carry on living as man and wife, when actually there nikah is broken and they are living in sin.
samiyah1983
11-02-08, 02:58 PM
he said it three times to her talak talak talak. she didnt say how he said it...
jk for the advise but i need to know if it is the hadith???
he said it three times to her talak talak talak. she didnt say how he said it...
jk for the advise but i need to know if it is the hadith???
Even if someone posted a specific hadith, as I stated earlier, it depends on the situation itslef and also that person may follow a particular school of thought and all of this needs to be taken into consideration.
Looking on forums where you will get differing views is not the way to gain a clearer view as to whether one is divorced or not, as this is not something which requires an online fatwa and is a very serious issue which has to be looked into by those with ilm.
I mean no offecnce to you and Insha'allah you understand where I am coming from. :)
he said it three times to her talak talak talak. she didnt say how he said it...
jk for the advise but i need to know if it is the hadith???
sorry, what is the hadith?
yes, you'll get differing opinions on the net. its good though samiyah, that you are concerned on your friends behalf. like i said, please tell them/her to refer to a shaikh; its an important matter There should be no embarassment in matters of religion.
NOTE: Talak is one of those things that is done even it is said in joke, or in anger. so seriously, they need to see a shaikh. unless he's insane or something, the issuing of three talak (directly, as in saying :talak talak talak) simultaneously breaks the nikah. so as i said, they need to do something about it.
Silly people. What is with these threads? It's like we get a new case every week.
HINT: Marry someone who is mature and doesn't blow with temper
Silly people. What is with these threads? It's like we get a new case every week.
HINT: Marry someone who is mature and doesn't blow with temper
lol at "new case" sound like your sitting in your office with all this casework to go thru
muhammed_1428
11-02-08, 08:54 PM
I think abdulhakeem's reponse with all those links is more than enough for this issue with regards to finding info online.
But from what I've been told - Talak 3 times isn't always the case, it may be said once or twice or manyt times - it isn't SOLID if you know what I mean, I mean there's still the 3 months period for reconciliation is there not?
Metroid
12-02-08, 02:56 AM
This marriage stuff can be complicated.
I don't even feel motivated anymore.
With more knowledge, I will find it easier
samiyah1983
12-02-08, 08:12 AM
Silly people. What is with these threads? It's like we get a new case every week.
HINT: Marry someone who is mature and doesn't blow with temper
if i said tat she would kill me lol....
I think abdulhakeem's reponse with all those links is more than enough for this issue with regards to finding info online.
But from what I've been told - Talak 3 times isn't always the case, it may be said once or twice or manyt times - it isn't SOLID if you know what I mean, I mean there's still the 3 months period for reconciliation is there not?
er no if talak is said 3 times, its done, 'solid' if you want to call it that.
the three month reconciliation period is only valid after the 1st two talaks; after the third talak there is no going back.
umm shuyookh
12-02-08, 01:45 PM
er no if talak is said 3 times, its done, 'solid' if you want to call it that.
the three month reconciliation period is only valid after the 1st two talaks; after the third talak there is no going back.
there is a difference of opinion about whether saying it 3ce at a go counts as one or 3, that is why it is better to consult people of knowledge as others have advised.
Fitnah Bolice
12-02-08, 03:33 PM
That is a minor difference of opinion, the majority including the 4 madhaib deem it to be 3 even if it is in one go, saying that it is advisable to seek help from an Imam and if there is a chance to save the marriage then surely one should follow that path.
samiyah1983
12-02-08, 04:58 PM
jk for all the advise..
her hubby spoke to a sheik who advised, if said 3x on different occasions then it would be considered, but as this was first time all they need is to be together.....
anyway ive done ma bit...
god its put me off i tell ya lol....
there is a difference of opinion about whether saying it 3ce at a go counts as one or 3, that is why it is better to consult people of knowledge as others have advised.
thats what i advised too:rolleyes:
i'v never heard of such a difference of opinion in all the things i'v learnt...but apparently there is?.....thats very interesting
samiyah1983
13-02-08, 08:04 AM
thats what i advised too:rolleyes:
i'v never heard of such a difference of opinion in all the things i'v learnt...but apparently there is?.....thats very interesting
i know so many diifrnt views, but does tat mean ull rate the thread lol.....
jk
KhadijaC
06-03-08, 09:28 PM
With marriage vows one needs witnesses, doesn't this also apply to talak?
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