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Assalaamu alaikum
I'm looking for some advice please :)
My little brother is left handed and when he is eating he starts using his left hand. Obviously we have told him to eat with his right hand and tried to explain in very simple terms why but he says he finds it difficult. I suppose this is understandable (as if we tried to do things with the other hand we'd have co-ordination problems) - the funny thing is though, he manages to use the computer mouse with his right hand with no problems! So we had fun and games when he downloaded and installed '1001 smiles' onto the computer :smack: He does have strength in both hands mashallah (I know this because he can almost beat me in an arm wrestle! :o) but he just tends do things the way he finds easiest.
When we sit to eat and he starts using his left hand we take the spoon and put it in his right hand and he's ok for one or two mouthfuls but then goes back to using his left hand. He's better when it comes to eating stuff like sandwiches when he doesnt have to use and spoon or fork but for the times he does e.g eating cereal its a struggle and he gets irritated by all of us constantly trying to correct him.
I've tried to make it a more fun when he's eating cereal by seeing if he can get more flakes/loops of cereal on the spoon than I can and we always praise him when he tries to use his right hand but its keeping him at it thats the problem. I thought of making him a chart in the shape of a hand with stickers to put on for every meal he manages to eat with his right hand - do you think this will help?
Cartman
09-02-08, 08:28 PM
You should condition him to eat with his right hand, its hard at first, but eventually it becomes second nature.
I know people who shoot a basketball with their left hand but will throw it with their right hand
Tahiyah
09-02-08, 08:46 PM
i have two children that are left handed
whenever we sit down to eat, my husband always reminds all of us that these two are getting more reward for saying bismillah and eating with their right hands, as its actually a little jihad for them. its a struggle they do for the sake of pleasing Allah (swt)
if you keep saying things like this to them when you sit down to eat, you encourage them more and help them to remember, inshaa Allah...
anyhow, who wants to eat with shayton..blec...i d rather eat with my right foot then know that he is eating with me..
dhakiyya
10-02-08, 11:09 AM
I had this problem when I reverted to Islam...... I'm ambidextrous but out of habit I always ate and drank with my left hand. It took me a while to condition myself to only eating and drinking with my right hand mashaAllah, but I did it! :hidban: Alhamdulillah
Its perfectly possible even for a strongly left handed person to learn to eat with their right hand...... if they were to lose their left hand in an accident they wouldn't have to be spoon fed, they'd learn to use their right hand instead. Plus a strongly right handed person might at first find it a struggle to clean themselves with their left hand after using the toilet lol.
Out of interest (cause other things it doesnt matter what hand you use) The same goes for a right handed person losing their right hand and any skill including handwriting - you can teach yourself to do it with the other hand inshaAllah. The drummer from def leppard (rock band) lost one of his arms in an accident and he trained himself to play the drums one handed. People have even lost arms, or been born without arms and learned to eat with their feet.
I agree with tahiyah, its a mini jihad :hidban:
Noor_Usman
10-02-08, 03:11 PM
Asalamalikum.
I'm not left handed nor do I have children but the advise seems sound (my parents taught me about the guy from def leopard lol! big soft rock fans :rolleyes: )
I love the part about mini jihad - because it's so obvious you forget :inlove:
Plus I've always been lead to believe that left handed people tend to be more creative than right handed people :up:
Some of my cousins are left handed, but eat with their right hand. So it is possible to do so. Just requires some persistance on parents part.
dhakiyya
10-02-08, 03:31 PM
left handed people tend to be more creative than right handed people :up:
Its not true. Its a myth that originates from misunderstanding a theory of neurology that turned out not to be correct anyway - i.e. that "right brained" people have a different set of skills to "left brained" people. Actually the neurobiology of this is a lot more complex, and more to do with how well the two sides of the brain are connected and how "lateralised" the brain is - i.e. how much of a person's functioning is confined to one side of the brain rather than being spread between both sides. Those with more connections between the sides tend to have less lateralisation, and tend to be either ambidextrous or weakly left or right handed (i.e. less difference in ability between the two hands) and are more prone to conditions such as dyslexia. Wheras those with more lateralisation tend to have fewer connections, rarely have problems such as dyslexia and are strongly one or the other handed. On the whole, but thats still a very general picture and there are exceptions and other factors too.
Abu 'Abdullaah
10-02-08, 04:44 PM
Parents in the U.K. need to be extra careful if they send their children to non-Muslim schools. Here, eating (or holding the fork) with the left hand is considered to be the correct way.
dhakiyya
10-02-08, 06:01 PM
Parents in the U.K. need to be extra careful if they send their children to non-Muslim schools. Here, eating (or holding the fork) with the left hand is considered to be the correct way.
I doubt that anyone will ever correct the way a child holds their cutlery in the UK any more. Twenty or thirty years ago they probably would have, but its waaaaaay frowned upon to make a left handed child write in their right hand these days, I highly doubt they'll tell a kid to change which hand they hold their cutlery in these days.
That Hadith what is it again?
When Muhammad SAW told a man to eat with his right hand, he made an excuse..and it had undesirable consequences?
Anyone?
Abu 'Abdullaah
10-02-08, 06:30 PM
I doubt that anyone will ever correct the way a child holds their cutlery in the UK any more. Twenty or thirty years ago they probably would have, but its waaaaaay frowned upon to make a left handed child write in their right hand these days, I highly doubt they'll tell a kid to change which hand they hold their cutlery in these days.You'd be surprised as one of my daughters previous schools did exactly this. Agreed that it's probably not as strict anymore but on the whole, the 'correct' table manner here in the U.K. is to hold the fork in the left hand (and no elbows on the table lol).
Jazakallah for all the replies :) I suppose its just a case of continuing to remind and encourage him until he does it automatically.
Fitnah Bolice
10-02-08, 06:47 PM
That Hadith what is it again?
When Muhammad SAW told a man to eat with his right hand, he made an excuse..and it had undesirable consequences?
Anyone?
The one hadith that comes to mind is, and not sure if it's the one you're referring to.
Ana Abi Hurairah (ra) Kaal, Kala Rasulullah :saw:
La ta'qulu bish shimali fa inashaytana ta'qulu bish shimaal.
Bukhari.
Don't eat eat with your left hand for the Shaytaan eats with his left hand.
The one hadith that comes to mind is, and not sure if it's the one you're referring to.
Ana Abi Hurairah (ra) Kaal, Kala Rasulullah :saw:
La ta'qulu bish shimali fa inashaytana ta'qulu bish shimaal.
Bukhari.
Don't eat eat with your left hand for the Shaytaan eats with his left hand.
Erm not quiet, but...jazakAllah khair..:up:
nomoreillusions
10-02-08, 08:28 PM
When I visted my friend in Holland, she laughed at how I ate. As I understand it, most europeans eat with a fork in the left hand and their knife in the right, but Americans eat almost exclusively with their right hand alone and so spoon or fork always go in the right hand.
She teased me incessently :p I told her when she comes to visit me, I'll tease her back.
I did attempt to eat with the fork in my left and knife in my right but after .. yah probably about two bites I gave up and said 'I'm American, dammit, I eat with my right hand'
That Hadith what is it again?
When Muhammad SAW told a man to eat with his right hand, he made an excuse..and it had undesirable consequences?
Anyone?
do u mean the one where a man was eating with his left hand, in front of muhammad salAllahu alleyhi wa salam and he salAllahu alleyhi wa salam said eat with your right hand, and the man said he couldnt and he said may you never be able to, and he never was able to lift up his right hand again, narrated in muslim insha Allah someone has it .
Abu 'Abdullaah
10-02-08, 09:06 PM
...It was also reported in a saheeh hadeeth that he told a man who was eating with his left hand in his presence, “Eat with your right hand!” The man said, “I cannot.” He said, “May you never be able to!” – and the man never lifted his right hand to his mouth after that. Narrated by Muslim (2021). If it was permissible (to eat with the left hand), he would not have prayed against him for doing so. It was the man’s stubborn arrogance that made him refuse to obey the command, and this is the utmost disobedience which deserved this prayer against him.
Eating habits and diet of the Prophet (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) (http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=6503&ln=eng)
Asma-SE
11-02-08, 09:29 AM
My sister is left handed and my parents had to teach her to eat with her right hand, shes 29 now and never eats with her left.
dhakiyya
11-02-08, 11:30 AM
When I visted my friend in Holland, she laughed at how I ate. As I understand it, most europeans eat with a fork in the left hand and their knife in the right, but Americans eat almost exclusively with their right hand alone and so spoon or fork always go in the right hand.
How rude!
It is acceptable table manners in the UK for a left handed person to have the fork in the right hand and the knife in the right hand, and it is also the correct manners for the person laying the table to remember that person x is left handed and lay their place accordingly. Its also acceptable when eating something like chips to eat american style with just a fork in the right hand (or the left hand for a left handed person) and no knife, and when eating soup or dessert for the spoon to be held in the right hand (or the left hand for a left handed person). Its not, however, acceptable table manners to hold the fork american style (i.e. upside down according to British ettiquette - i.e. "like a shovel", with the concave side facing up) whilst using a knife. When using a knife the fork should be held so it's upside down to an American (i.e. with the convex side facing up) even when you are eating peas which is actually the most illogical way to eat peas IMO.
That was what I was taught by my grandparents who are/were experts on british manners mashaAllah :hidban:
Islamic manners are a lot more simple mashaAllah. You eat/drink with your right hand, whether with a cup. fork, a spoon, chopsticks or your bare hand :up: whether you are left or right handed :up: WAY more simple. And no necessity to try to eat peas with a fork that is according to any logical system, upside down.
baby_sum
11-02-08, 11:54 AM
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't we supposed to eat with the right hand? I mean no cutlery just the right hand (actually the first three fingers as far as possible)
dhakiyya
11-02-08, 12:30 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't we supposed to eat with the right hand? I mean no cutlery just the right hand (actually the first three fingers as far as possible)
what even soup? :0:
There is no prohibition against cultery that I know of....
funny thing is ur bro reminds me of me.. i have the same problem wen coming to use a spoon n folk i eat with my left hand, yes my parents/bro/sis every1 has said it to me n ur right it is really hard im 22 n in still having this problem n am sure ur bro is much younger than me.
Pro_Candy
12-02-08, 04:58 AM
My son is left handed. He eats, draws, throws, most everything with his left hand. Why push him to change something that comes natural to him?
cuz shaytan eats with his left hand?
Having the habit of eating with one's left hand
Question:
Because of my nephews bad habit he has great difficulty in eating with his right hand. At the moment he uses his left hand when there is nobody to remind him. I am worried about this, so, what is the fiqh ruling concerning a person who get used to eat with his left hand?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
Doing good is a habit and doing evil is a habit. Man is always either making progress or falling behind. When a person gets used to doing something, he becomes very fond of it and loves it, and dislikes anything else. Then he thinks that the thing he is not used to is not possible, but this way of thinking is not right and it goes against both the laws of Islam and the facts of reality. Therefore the one who uses his left hand to eat and drink should be taught the Islamic ruling and should be reminded of the hadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) on this matter.
When a man ate with his left hand in his presence, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Eat with your right hand.” He said, “I cannot.” He said, “May you never be able to!” Nothing was stopping him but his stubborn arrogance, and he never raised his right hand to his mouth after that.
(Reported by Muslim, 3776).
According to a report narrated by al-Daarimi, “his right hand never reached his mouth”. This man suffered paralysis because of the du’aa’ of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “In this hadeeth we have an indication that it is allowed to pray against a person who breaks a shar’i rule with no excuse. We also see the principle of enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil in all situations, even with regard to eating. It encourages us to teach proper manners of eating to a person who is eating if he is doing something wrong.
The hadeeth also teaches us that the Shaytaan eats with his left hand, because of the hadeeth: “When any one of you eats, let him eat with his right hand, and when he drinks, let him drink with his right hand, because the Shaytaan eats with his left hand and drinks with his left hand.”
(Reported by Muslim, 3764).
The Shaytaan eats with his left hand so the person who eats with his left hand resembles the Shaytaan, indeed the Shaytaan is sharing his food with him.
Ahmad reported with a hasan isnaad from ‘Aa’ishah and attributed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Whoever eats with his left hand, the Shaytaan eats with him.”
(Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi, commentary on hadeeth 1721).
Moreover, the left hand should be reserved for removing dirt, as when cleaning oneself after going to the toilet (istinja’) and blowing one’s nose and other kinds of cleaning oneself and removing dirt. How can a person use that which is used for removing dirt and impurities for putting food in his mouth?
Hafsah (may Allaah be pleased with her), the wife of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to use his right hand for eating, drinking and getting dressed and his left hand for everything else.
(Reported by Abu Dawood, no. 30)
Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
“This is a fixed rule in sharee’ah. It has to do with honourable things such as putting on one’s shirt, trousers and shoes, entering the mosque, using siwaak, applying kohl, … combing and styling one’s hair, … shaving the head, giving salaam at the end of prayer, washing oneself in ghusl or wudoo’, leaving the toilet, eating, drinking, shaking hands, acknowledging the Black Stone, and other things where we are encouraged to use the right hand or start with the right.
As for the opposite [things that are not honourable], such as entering the toilet, leaving the mosque, blowing one’s nose, washing oneself after using the toilet, taking off one's shirt, trousers and shoes, and so on, then we should start with the left or use the left hand. All of this has to do with honouring the right hand or right side.”
Some people may have a real problem that prevents them from using their right hand, such as being paralyzed and so on. In this case they are excused and there is no blame on them. Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “If he has an excuse for not eating and drinking with his right hand, such as sickness or an injury, then this is not makrooh…”
Most likely the problem of the boy you are asking about has to do with habit, so try to get him used to eating with his right hand and keep on advising him and reminding him to do so. You could seek the help of psycologists, because some of them may have some useful ideas. We ask Allaah to give you strength, May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.
Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
Parents in the U.K. need to be extra careful if they send their children to non-Muslim schools. Here, eating (or holding the fork) with the left hand is considered to be the correct way.
Agree with this.. My friends in school used to find it wierd when I used to eat with a fork in my right hand. I just used to laugh at them, and tell them its alot easier. Cutting with the left hand was hard though lol
nomoreillusions
12-02-08, 03:39 PM
How rude!
Oh it wasn't really, just good natured teasing. ;) It makes me giggle to this day to remember. *sigh* .. I miss my friend. :( Holland is so far away.
[quote] And no necessity to try to eat peas...
I'll just put a full-stop there and leave it at that :p ;)
nomoreillusions
12-02-08, 03:45 PM
My son is left handed. He eats, draws, throws, most everything with his left hand. Why push him to change something that comes natural to him?
Well, I don't speak from a religious point of view when I say, these days there is really no reason to try to force a left-handed person to use their right hand. Almost entirely due to the advent of general sanitation and soap.
The custom of eating with the right hand is almost as old as civilization itself and based mostly on the concept that since they didn't have any guarenteed way to sanitize the hands, that all "clean" things were done with the right hand, and all "dirty" things were done with the left.
From this comes the concept of eating only with the right hand to avoid contaminating your food, shaking with the right hand (as it was rude to offer someone your 'dirty' hand), the concept that the right hand is holy or to be on the right hand is a place of honour, to salut with the right hand, and, incidentally, the concept of cutting off the left hand (i.e. the dirty hand) thus making your right hand unclean as it now does the 'unclean' things the left hand used to...
Which, of course, means the only reason to use one hand over another for any particular purpose at all comes down to culture or religion.
Pro_Candy
12-02-08, 05:15 PM
cuz shaytan eats with his left hand?
Does shaytan wash his hands before eating as well? Can't eat with left hand, can't sleep on stomach, can't drink while standing.... sometimes there are just too many rules that seem pointless.
Well, I don't speak from a religious point of view when I say, these days there is really no reason to try to force a left-handed person to use their right hand. Almost entirely due to the advent of general sanitation and soap.
The custom of eating with the right hand is almost as old as civilization itself and based mostly on the concept that since they didn't have any guarenteed way to sanitize the hands, that all "clean" things were done with the right hand, and all "dirty" things were done with the left.
From this comes the concept of eating only with the right hand to avoid contaminating your food, shaking with the right hand (as it was rude to offer someone your 'dirty' hand), the concept that the right hand is holy or to be on the right hand is a place of honour, to salut with the right hand, and, incidentally, the concept of cutting off the left hand (i.e. the dirty hand) thus making your right hand unclean as it now does the 'unclean' things the left hand used to...
Which, of course, means the only reason to use one hand over another for any particular purpose at all comes down to culture or religion.
Yeah that's what I thought the left hand thing was at first-an issue of cleanliness. Wash your privates after using the restroom with your left hand, eat with your right hand, that makes sense. But to force my child to do something other than what comes natural to him just doesn't make sense to me. If he can do it better with his left hand, then I'll let him do it how he is comfortable. He's not hurting anyone or breaking any moral code or any rules...
Abu Mus'ab
12-02-08, 05:48 PM
Does shaytan wash his hands before eating as well? Can't eat with left hand, can't sleep on stomach, can't drink while standing.... sometimes there are just too many rules that seem pointless.
Yeah that's what I thought the left hand thing was at first-an issue of cleanliness. Wash your privates after using the restroom with your left hand, eat with your right hand, that makes sense. But to force my child to do something other than what comes natural to him just doesn't make sense to me. If he can do it better with his left hand, then I'll let him do it how he is comfortable. He's not hurting anyone or breaking any moral code or any rules...
I hope you realise what you've just said is a statemnet of kufr.
Fitnah Bolice
12-02-08, 08:39 PM
I hope you realise what you've just said is a statemnet of kufr.
when one rejects hadith, it makes no difference what they utter.
Mullah_Din
12-02-08, 09:08 PM
what even soup? :0:
There is no prohibition against cultery that I know of....
.....apart from gold and silver cutlery!
Wassalaam,
Le Croyant
12-02-08, 09:13 PM
what abt polished gold/silver?
I have some gahwa cups which have design on them made of gold paint. is that ok?
Pro_Candy
13-02-08, 02:13 AM
I hope you realise what you've just said is a statemnet of kufr.
Hey, I'm just being honest. I've played the 'perfect Muslim' game, and it got me nowhere other than being taken advantage of. Why? Because when a woman 'acts out' (as you would probably say), she's acting like kuffar. When a man 'acts out' or goes totally against Islam, we're just supposed to be patient and wait it out. So the 'perfect Muslim' game gets old real quick.
Allah (swt) gave us brains, minds, and the abilities to do what we need to do. Some of us are left handed, some are right handed. What's the big deal if someone does something with the opposite hand? Does the shaytan also write with his left hand? Shoot baskets? Does he kick with his left foot?
I don't believe we will go to hell for eating with our left hand. Or sleeping on our stomach. Or drinking while standing. There are more important issues in life.
Pro_Candy
13-02-08, 02:17 AM
when one rejects hadith, it makes no difference what they utter.
Questioning hadith is completely different than rejecting it. We are allowed to question. We are encouraged to question. We are not sheep.
Um_yusuf
13-02-08, 04:47 AM
Questioning hadith is completely different than rejecting it. We are allowed to question. We are encouraged to question. We are not sheep.
Salaam sis
I actually agree with you, its not the fact tht you may question a certain hadith which is wrong, its completely rejecting hadith which is haram.
Another thing, if we didnt question, or shud i say look into a hadith, how would we know if its a 'sahih' or a weak hadith. How would we know whether we were following rightly or wrongly.
jus my humble opinion:)
Rosalie-Beauty
13-02-08, 05:09 AM
Salaam sis
I actually agree with you, its not the fact tht you may question a certain hadith which is wrong, its completely rejecting hadith which is haram.
Another thing, if we didnt question, or shud i say look into a hadith, how would we know if its a 'sahih' or a weak hadith. How would we know whether we were following rightly or wrongly.
jus my humble opinion:)
Also to add on, if we did not question it we would not understand it. And if we did not understand it, we would have little incentive to follow it.
Fitnah Bolice
13-02-08, 08:57 AM
No harm in questioning, but when a narration of the prophet :saw: is found to be sahih...then we hear and we obey.....not bring forth excuses that such and such a thing is not important, we try and mend our ways and try to implement actions that our nabi has instructed us to do.
Abu Mus'ab
13-02-08, 03:48 PM
Hey, I'm just being honest. I've played the 'perfect Muslim' game, and it got me nowhere other than being taken advantage of. Why? Because when a woman 'acts out' (as you would probably say), she's acting like kuffar. When a man 'acts out' or goes totally against Islam, we're just supposed to be patient and wait it out. So the 'perfect Muslim' game gets old real quick.
Allah (swt) gave us brains, minds, and the abilities to do what we need to do. Some of us are left handed, some are right handed. What's the big deal if someone does something with the opposite hand? Does the shaytan also write with his left hand? Shoot baskets? Does he kick with his left foot?
I don't believe we will go to hell for eating with our left hand. Or sleeping on our stomach. Or drinking while standing. There are more important issues in life.
Are you really at liberty to talk? you're exactly the same, you don't see the sunnah as something important, and perhaps their mothers didn't see "acting out" as something wrong, yet you feel that you're right and they're wrong, but if you just looked at yourself you'd notice you hold the same qualities as them.
Abu Mus'ab
13-02-08, 03:51 PM
Questioning hadith is completely different than rejecting it. We are allowed to question. We are encouraged to question. We are not sheep.
I've heard this line so many times from all sorts of deviants yet not a single one of them could bring shari proof for this statement of theirs, so where's your proof?
Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't we supposed to eat with the right hand? I mean no cutlery just the right hand (actually the first three fingers as far as possible)
omg it would be the end of the world in my house if we didnt eat rice with our fingers... even till this day the only thing we can eat with culterly is either any kind of pasta or soup :eek:
my littlest brother is left handed but he eats with right hand and eating with right hand was enforced ever since he sat at the table with us.
these are little things and enforcing simple sunnah into our daily lives helps us become better muslims inshallah.
Abu Mus'ab
13-02-08, 04:15 PM
I actually agree with you, its not the fact tht you may question a certain hadith which is wrong, its completely rejecting hadith which is haram.
Also to add on, if we did not question it we would not understand it. And if we did not understand it, we would have little incentive to follow it.
No harm in questioning,
I wonder if english is any of your languages, all 3 of you made the same 'mistake', does any of you know what the word "question" means? and how it's different to "inquiring"?
To question anything in islam is kufr, to inquire is permissable.
To question something is to challenge it, to doubt/disbelieve in it, whereas to inquire is to request an answer for something, when you question something you already have little to no belief in it, so questioning a hadith is tantamount to rejecting it.
Pro_Candy
14-02-08, 01:24 PM
I wonder if english is any of your languages, all 3 of you made the same 'mistake', does any of you know what the word "question" means? and how it's different to "inquiring"?
To question anything in islam is kufr, to inquire is permissable.
To question something is to challenge it, to doubt/disbelieve in it, whereas to inquire is to request an answer for something, when you question something you already have little to no belief in it, so questioning a hadith is tantamount to rejecting it.
No one asked for an English lesson, buddy. Quit trying to be so complicated.
GothiKa
14-02-08, 01:50 PM
Allah (swt) gave us brains
Are you sure you have one, considering the kufr in your recent posts?
Pro_Candy
14-02-08, 06:29 PM
Are you sure you have one, considering the kufr in your recent posts?
Yeah, I'm sure. I can even use mine--did you ever try that?
Abu Mus'ab
14-02-08, 06:59 PM
No one asked for an English lesson, buddy. Quit trying to be so complicated.
Nor did they ask for your opinion, you might be able to pull the wool over some next naive persons eyes but that wont work with me.
Um_yusuf
15-02-08, 12:55 AM
salaam
Abu musab and gothika, arent you being a bit 'harsh' (to say the least) with sis pro candy, you dnt know whts in her heart, only Allah swt does and he's the only one to judge, not any of us!
Pro_Candy
15-02-08, 02:17 AM
Thanks Sis, I'm glad there are some here who fear Allah (swt) enough not to pass judgment onto others. I wonder how many these two and their buddies have pushed away with their 'holier than thou' attitude...
Um_yusuf
15-02-08, 03:41 AM
Thanks Sis, I'm glad there are some here who fear Allah (swt) enough not to pass judgment onto others. I wonder how many these two and their buddies have pushed away with their 'holier than thou' attitude...
no problem sis
May Allah swt guide you , me and us all , ameen:)
GothiKa
15-02-08, 04:48 AM
Abu musab and gothika, arent you being a bit 'harsh'
No. One who considers the instructions of the Prophet(saw) pointless is no doubt committing kufr.
bet thing to do to tie his left hand around his body.. then he will have no choice :D
Pro_Candy
15-02-08, 12:40 PM
No. One who considers the instructions of the Prophet(saw) pointless is no doubt committing kufr.
There were reasons for rules. But, whatever. Keep judging me, what do I care? You're racking up your own sins by doing that, so keep it up :up:
bet thing to do to tie his left hand around his body.. then he will have no choice :D
lol
I've now told him that if he tries to eat with his right hand and finds it difficult, its a challenge - just like a power ranger's challenge :D Since he loves red ranger he's happy to go along with it :)
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