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Arabiyya
09-02-08, 05:17 PM
I have a cousin. Well..second cousin, once removed. Our grandfathers are brothers.
We only found out about eachother a few days ago, Mashallah. He's devout Christian, the whole family on that side is. ..but a really nice person.
This is more of a social issue than anything, but: are we close enough in blood that I don't have to wear hijab in front of him? --Like, I know we can marry our first cousins..but seconds and thirds and so on are off limits..and technically doesn't 'not being able to marry them' make them like your brothers?
I really don't know for sure about these rules..I haven't asked anyone else yet, either..but advice would be great.
Jazaak Allahu Khairan!
Got Milk
09-02-08, 05:21 PM
I have a cousin. Well..second cousin, once removed. Our grandfathers are brothers.
We only found out about eachother a few days ago, Mashallah. He's devout Christian, the whole family on that side is. ..but a really nice person.
This is more of a social issue than anything, but: are we close enough in blood that I don't have to wear hijab in front of him? --Like, I know we can marry our first cousins..but seconds and thirds and so on are off limits..and technically doesn't 'not being able to marry them' make them like your brothers?
I really don't know for sure about these rules..I haven't asked anyone else yet, either..but advice would be great.
Jazaak Allahu Khairan!
A muslim lady cannot marry a non-muslim. Sorry. :( but its allowed the other way around :D :hidban::hidban::hidban::hidban::hidban::hidban::h idban::hidban:
u have to cover in front of him.
u cant marry a christian.
but u can marry your 2nd cousin though :scratch:
Arabiyya
09-02-08, 05:32 PM
ewwwwwwww
I didn't mean for marriage.
I just wanted to know if he can come over and visit without having to really go out of order over it.
I guess not.
.. and I was so positive that it was only first cousins. I might be wrong..
Got Milk
09-02-08, 05:35 PM
ewwwwwwww
I didn't mean for marriage.
I just wanted to know if he can come over and visit without having to really go out of order over it.
I guess not.
.. and I was so positive that it was only first cousins. I might be wrong..
In this forum if you mention the opposite sex in any matter they all assume its for marriage *yawns* :rolleyes:
Saudi Prince
09-02-08, 05:44 PM
A muslim woman is not allowed to marry a christian (cousin or non-cousin).
And your cousin is not your mahram so you must cover in front of him.
Noor_Usman
09-02-08, 05:45 PM
Asalamalikum.
Whilst it would be good practice to stay covered in front of him - I don't think it is *oooh what's the word :smack:* I don't think you are compelled to..but since he's a guy it would definately be preferable :rolleyes:
As for marriage any Muslim cousin is legit :up: lol Maybe some parents wouldn't approve with they weren't first cousins (I still don't get this narrow mindedness and want for a closed gene pool and limited tribal bonds :scratch:) but 2nd and 3rd etc...well they are better for you because there will be more variety in the blood and they are just as marrigable as any other chap :D
(Just so you know for future reference lol)
Saudi Prince
09-02-08, 05:48 PM
Asalamalikum.
Whilst it would be good practice to stay covered in front of him - I don't think it is *oooh what's the word :smack:* I don't think you are compelled to..but since he's a guy it would definately be preferable :rolleyes:
As for marriage any Muslim cousin is legit :up: lol Maybe some parents wouldn't approve with they weren't first cousins (I still don't get this narrow mindedness and want for a closed gene pool and limited tribal bonds :scratch:) but 2nd and 3rd etc...well they are better for you because there will be more variety in the blood and they are just as marrigable as any other chap :D
(Just so you know for future reference lol)
What do you mean she is not compelled to???
LastFriday
09-02-08, 06:23 PM
In this forum if you mention the opposite sex in any matter they all assume its for marriage *yawns* :rolleyes:
So whats your Real Account name?
Pippin1376
09-02-08, 06:32 PM
He's not a legal male for you because if he was Muslim you could marry him. So you'd have to cover your hair when he comes to him.
Got Milk
09-02-08, 06:41 PM
So whats your Real Account name?
Meaning what exactly?
.: Anna :.
09-02-08, 06:56 PM
he's not ur mahram, you have to cover its not an option
Let me explain this in a different way: the only males who you DON'T have to cover your head in front of are:
- Kin relatives (meaning your): father, brothers, nephews, parents brothers, grandfathers or husband (or if applicable; the husband of a woman who regularly breastfed you as a baby is also like a father figure to you and you don't have to cover in front of the husband or sons of such a woman).
- prepubescent boys: little boys primary school aged or under (altho this doesn't include those rare occassions where some primary school boys grow fast and look like 14 year olds)
You have to cover your head in front of any male who doesn't fit in the above categories.
ummbilal
09-02-08, 07:08 PM
I have a cousin. Well..second cousin, once removed. Our grandfathers are brothers.
We only found out about eachother a few days ago, Mashallah. He's devout Christian, the whole family on that side is. ..but a really nice person.
This is more of a social issue than anything, but: are we close enough in blood that I don't have to wear hijab in front of him? --Like, I know we can marry our first cousins..but seconds and thirds and so on are off limits..and technically doesn't 'not being able to marry them' make them like your brothers?
I really don't know for sure about these rules..I haven't asked anyone else yet, either..but advice would be great.
Jazaak Allahu Khairan!
what??
this man is not your mahrem at all, you should wear hijaab in front of him.
1. Husband: A wife is not required to observe Hijab of any part of her body with her husband. However, to look at the private parts unnecessarily is not preferable. 'Aishah (r.a.) stated that the Prophet (s.a.w.) never looked at her private parts nor did she look at his.
2. Father: The grandfather and the great grand father are also included in this category.
3. Father-in-Law: The grand father-in-law and the great grandfather-in-law are included here as well.
4. Sons: The real sons.
5. Step-sons.
6. Real and step-brothers. However, cousin brothers, all of whom are considered Ghair-Mahram, are not included in this category.
7. Sons of the real or step brothers.
8. Sons of real and step sisters. Cousin sisters are not included in here.
The above are the eight kinds of Maharim.
second cousins are not on the list they are further removed than first cousins and we can marry first cousins.:rubeyes:
ummbilal
09-02-08, 07:08 PM
ewwwwwwww
I didn't mean for marriage.
I just wanted to know if he can come over and visit without having to really go out of order over it.
I guess not.
.. and I was so positive that it was only first cousins. I might be wrong..
you are wrong on this one sister, :)
Arabiyya
10-02-08, 04:09 PM
Jazak Allahu Khairan ladies and gentleman.
Maybe I'm really wierd, but I always feel like anyone who swims in my genepool is out of the game, if you get my drift. My first cousins treat me like a sister, but in a very distant and respectful way.
But like..EW!
Ukh. Okay. I don't know what I was thinking actually. I guess the reason I thought second cousins etc are off is because, if two of your first cousins marry, and you marry their child... things get TOO cosy, genetically.
Anyhow. I agree with what you've all said. Thanks for the help!
And Got Milk: LOL!
It's simple. The Quran clearly states that your cousin isn't your mahram...so you have to dress decently when in his presence. Allah only commands what is good. :up:
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