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umm_abdullah
23-01-08, 05:38 PM
asalaamu alaykum to all,

i wanted to know your wat ur thoughts were about this topic. Do you think that mix race marriages work and last longer than marriages fromthe same race. i know that the main problem for mix race marriages is culture clash wat are your views and would you marry same whose not from the same country as you?

ummbilal
23-01-08, 05:45 PM
i dont think you can generalise this way, some people get married and it lasts forever, some get divorced doesnt matter who comes from where ever. people who believe same culture/race marriages will last longer, tend to have racist/ tribalistic tendancies which isnt part of Islam.

neelu
23-01-08, 06:09 PM
Can this thread be merged with one of the 50 or so others on this topic?

.: Anna :.
23-01-08, 06:40 PM
i dont think you can generalise this way, some people get married and it lasts forever, some get divorced doesnt matter who comes from where ever. people who believe same culture/race marriages will last longer, tend to have racist/ tribalistic tendancies which isnt part of Islam.

exactly. mixed or same culture doesnt make a difference whether the marriage lasts. that depends on the personalities, behaviour and attitudes of the 2 people and their compatibilty

muhammed_1428
23-01-08, 06:48 PM
I have a half Egyptian/quarter Ukranian/quarter English friend (a brother) - his mum and dad are still going strong Alhamdulilah.

One of my Iraqi friends is married to a Pakistani woman and they've recently had their first child (daughter, Masha'allah about a month and a half now).

I know of an egyptian married to a Nigerian

A Pakistani married to Spanish

etc, etc!

Tbh and unfortunately there are people out there which simply do prefer to marry to their own background or race - there may very well be racist reasons involved - but there's also the reason that someone may just get along much better that way and the marriage may be more successful.

Then again, it may be completely the other way around and someone who grew up not really liking their culture only to marry someone from it may not be too happy in the years to come...

So long as their deen is the first thing in the list of attributes you look for - you can never go wrong Insha'allah

P.S. I would definitely marry someone not from Iraq (or who isn't arabic :p ), it would be kinda cool to learn about a new culture and I'd probably learn a new language too so that's a plus eh? :p

Saudi Prince
23-01-08, 06:54 PM
exactly. mixed or same culture doesnt make a difference whether the marriage lasts. that depends on the personalities, behaviour and attitudes of the 2 people and their compatibilty

Not true! There will always be differences unless they both follow Islam as they should be.

.: Anna :.
23-01-08, 06:57 PM
Not true! There will always be differences unless they both follow Islam as they should be.

no i mean just because they are from different culture doesnt make successful marriage more likely, and just because they are from same culture also doesnt make successful marriage more likely.
if they are both practising islam properly this should make success more likely doesnt matter if both are pakistani for example or one is bengali and one is swedish

Syrian714
23-01-08, 07:18 PM
I think there is potentially a huge difference between a mixed race marriage and a mixed culture marriage. If it is purely a matter of mixed race and you both grew up in the same culture, I don't think it would be any more difficult to make the marriage work than if you married someone of your own race. However if mixed culture is involved, there can be enormous barriers.

As for me, I'm a western revert. But I'm also Arab and frankly, even before I reverted I would get very tired of having to explain to my non-Arab friends why my family did/didn't do certain things, why certain things could not be done or said in my house, why my dad acted this way or did that, etc. It's annoying and it's easy for me to understand why some people choose to just not even consider marrying outside their race/culture.

Treasured Soul
23-01-08, 07:48 PM
I think ur generalising ... whether marriages work out or not doesnt have much to do with race or ethnic background. Its more to do with personality, attitude, and compromise.

However ... in some cultures, families play a big role in the marrriage ... and well quite frankly, if ur mother n law doesnt like u, then ur going to have a hard time (which is also possible within the same race!)

Popint being ... marriage is what u make of .. whether same race or not!

Noman
23-01-08, 07:54 PM
Assalamu alaykum,

I am myself half Pakistani half Belgian. It doesnt matter at all. They are both muslim alhamdullilah.

Only our being muslim matters.

Assalamu Alaykum

Tranquillity
23-01-08, 08:06 PM
Just think, I bet we all know lots of people from the SAME race who are unhappily married...
If two people are committed to their Deen and to each other then race is as irrevelant as something like eye colour.

MustBePatient
23-01-08, 08:21 PM
I always wanted to have mixed race marriage but now i know my parents are against it, and well, what they want is important too.

GuCcI
23-01-08, 08:25 PM
However ... in some cultures, families play a big role in the marrriage ... and well quite frankly, if ur mother n law doesnt like u, then ur going to have a hard time (which is also possible within the same race!)



yeah eh, some mother in laws are so unaccepting of other cultures :rolleyes: i wouldnt wanna marry into a family where MIL isnt accepting :rolleyes:

Treasured Soul
23-01-08, 08:26 PM
sorry .. my post should have read in-laws (not just the mother n law) :D

urban_rose
23-01-08, 08:26 PM
Done Here (http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79683)

GuCcI
23-01-08, 08:27 PM
sorry .. my post should have read in-laws (not just the mother n law) :D

thats okay, brother in laws could feel the same way as the mil anyway :up:

MustBePatient
23-01-08, 08:29 PM
i wouldnt wanna marry into a family where MIL isnt accepting :rolleyes:

I don't think any girl would.

Kubs
23-01-08, 08:47 PM
:zzz:

~Unity~
23-01-08, 08:48 PM
:zzz:

Why you being racist for? :outta:

Kubs
23-01-08, 08:49 PM
Why you being racist for? :outta:

Look who's talking :rolleyes:

~Unity~
23-01-08, 08:52 PM
Look who's talking :rolleyes:

:rubeyes::rubeyes::rubeyes:

I aint no racist :(

But Somalia is pretty kewl :hidban:

Joking :p:D

Kubs
23-01-08, 08:53 PM
:rubeyes::rubeyes::rubeyes:

I aint no racist :(

But Somalia is pretty kewl :hidban:

Joking :p:D

Well then.. you're a nationalist! :D

Back to topic! Blue, orange, pink or black...I don't care about skin colour or ethnicity or language. I care about character and deen.

GuCcI
23-01-08, 08:54 PM
u girlies just killed my thread :(

thanks a lot

~Unity~
23-01-08, 08:55 PM
Well then.. you're a nationalist! :D

Back to topic! Blue, orange, pink or black...I don't care about skin colour or ethnicity or language. I care about character and deen.

1. No I aint :( Astaghfirullah. I was just joking. Sis take that back inshaAllah.
2. Ditto :D

u girlies just killed my thread :(

thanks a lot

:(

Kubs
23-01-08, 08:57 PM
1. No I aint :( Astaghfirullah. I was just joking. Sis take that back inshaAllah.

The smiley face (:D) indicates that I was joking. Pretty slow arentcha? :outta:

Treasured Soul
23-01-08, 08:57 PM
u girlies just killed my thread :(

thanks a lot

lol .. was it ur thread :confused:

GuCcI
23-01-08, 09:01 PM
:(

its okay, i forgive u sister :love:

lol .. was it ur thread :confused:

let's forget who started it and focus on more informative discussion :)

no :o

~Unity~
23-01-08, 09:01 PM
The smiley face (:D) indicates that I was joking. Pretty slow arentcha? :outta:

1. Your joke was rubbish. I'm hurt :(
2. I'm slow so what. Why you hating on the dyslexics :(
3. That smiling face indicated you were directly saying something, but trying to make it a light-hearted matter
4. I don't wanna discuss this further. A rep with an apology shall do isnhaAllah.
5. Mixed marraiges are kewl there are about 5 in my family :D Your culture should be your deen but have a look at the the thread urban rose gave inshaAllah

Kubs
23-01-08, 09:05 PM
4. I don't wanna discuss this further. A rep with an apology shall do isnhaAllah.

I don't like to rep people - a negative rep however...........:up:

~Unity~
23-01-08, 09:06 PM
I don't like to rep people - a negative rep however...........:up:

Get out of this thread Turk :zzz::zzz:

Mixed race marriages :hidban::hidban::hidban:

GuCcI
23-01-08, 09:07 PM
right, the kids are gorgeous mashallah

Kubs
23-01-08, 09:12 PM
Get out of this thread Turk. :zzz::zzz:

Mixed race marriages :hidban::hidban::hidban:

Turk? Now whose being racist? :rolleyes:

Mashallah I had this Hungarian sister round my house today and she is married to a Turkish brother. They get along perfectly fine and there's no culture clash whatsoever. She also speaks Turkish very well now.

As long as you marry the right person and as long as both individuals are not too attached to their culture....then things will work out fine. At the end of the day we are all Muslims so we share the same values and way of thinking.....the only difference is our language.

~Unity~
23-01-08, 09:14 PM
the only difference is our language.

And skin colour. And all skin colours are voouuutttiiifffuuul :D:love:

Okay I'm outta here :outta:

Kubs
23-01-08, 09:16 PM
And skin colour. And all skin colours are voouuutttiiifffuuul :D:love:

Okay I'm outta here :outta:

Not really. For instance you have really dark Turkish people and then fair ones....and then you have the really pale ones :up:

GuCcI
23-01-08, 09:18 PM
Mashallah I had this Hungarian sister round my house today and she is married to a Turkish brother. They get along perfectly fine and there's no culture clash whatsoever. She also speaks Turkish very well now.

yeah actually i find it pretty cool how some ppl pick up the other language very quickly after marriage.

there was this afghani lady who married a bangali man and she spoke perfect bangla it was incredible u couldnt even tell the difference from her accent mashallah :p

and just a few weeks ago i met a irani lady married to a bangali man who also learned a fair bit of bangla in a short time, she had an accent but it was cute :up:

~Unity~
23-01-08, 09:19 PM
Not really. For instance you have really dark Turkish people and then fair ones....and then you have the really pale ones :up:

:smack:

I was talking about "Mixed Race" marraiges in general. The difference in not only in the language. But country and skin colour. Thats what makes it mixed, no? I wasn't referring to whatever you wrote before me. Cos you write a load of tosh.

So :rolleyes: back at ya.

ummbilal
23-01-08, 09:20 PM
u sisters r so silly, but i guess everyone is fed up of this question it crops up like every week

~Unity~
23-01-08, 09:22 PM
u sisters r so silly

We love u 2 ummbilal :love:

Kubs
23-01-08, 09:22 PM
u sisters r so silly, but i guess everyone is fed up of this question it crops up like every week

Yeah I agree - so immature :nono:

GuCcI
23-01-08, 09:23 PM
omg girlies u killed 2 pages with chit chat :nono:


mashallah :love:

~Unity~
23-01-08, 09:25 PM
Yeah I agree - so immature :nono:

:o Okay that is it no more :nono:

omg girlies u killed 2 pages with chit chat :nono:

mashallah :love:

It was not chit chat it was an important debate regarding mixed race marriages :nono:

:p:love:

Metroid
23-01-08, 10:47 PM
:asta:
There is no problems with Mix marriages.
1) A Muslim couple is to abide by Islamic laws
2) Islamic laws are universal
3)no matter where you from, the prophet :saw: is your role model, not your culture, your ethnicity or background.

It is either you follow the Islam or your Culture

Te'oma
23-01-08, 10:53 PM
LOL if it wasn't for mixing races I wouldn't be here :p
I have bloodlines to everywhere except eastern asia and africa. Mind you my brother and sister have managed to get that in the mix for the next generation :D

MustBePatient
24-01-08, 04:01 AM
right, the kids are gorgeous mashallah

maybe, depends, imagine japanese and arab with uni brow, then imagine how a girl would look with wides japanese eyes and thick arab uni brow

Rosalie-Beauty
24-01-08, 04:17 AM
maybe, depends, imagine japanese and arab with uni brow, then imagine how a girl would look with wides japanese eyes and thick arab uni brow

that's a pessimistic view. A Japanese-Arab girl would look exotically beautiful.

MustBePatient
24-01-08, 04:21 AM
that's a pessimistic view. A Japanese-Arab girl would look exotically beautiful.

Most likely I know.. I've seen one

Cartman
24-01-08, 04:37 AM
were all one race, humans...

all our skin differences are just adaptations to our climate

MustBePatient
24-01-08, 04:43 AM
were all one race, humans...

all our skin differences are just adaptations to our climate

true

Rosalie-Beauty
24-01-08, 04:48 AM
I dont even see why we are arguing about this. The fact stands that; people who are racist, will marry other people who are racist. And people who are not racist will marry people who are not racist.

case closed.

MustBePatient
24-01-08, 04:53 AM
I dont even see why we are arguing about this. The fact stands that; people who are racist, will marry other people who are racist. And people who are not racist will marry people who are not racist.

case closed.

not as simple, there is parents, family, etc, and what they think

if they hate it, then if you willing to sacrif ice, then you are, but others want the welcoming embracing of the family in laws however, i think eventually, no matter what, that embraccing does come even though they might be against the idea at first, but i think i'm a foolish person who thinks to optimistic sometimes, so maybe it's not the case

anyhow, i want mixed kids

PiElle2
24-01-08, 05:48 AM
I'll always remember this joke... from a UK sitcom about foreigners learning English... a student was saying in much astonishement....

"you mean... Pakistani + Chinese = Pekinese.... " LOL

$HugoBoss$
24-01-08, 05:55 AM
that's a pessimistic view. A Japanese-Arab girl would look exotically beautiful.

How bout a spanish and pakistani girl mix, how would that look or a north indian and portuguese mix :up:

Cartman
24-01-08, 10:23 AM
How bout a spanish and pakistani girl mix, how would that look or a north indian and portuguese mix :up:

shed be ugly but Ill tell you whats good, portuguese mixed with black..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

sunrise
24-01-08, 10:25 AM
^ my cuz is a asian spanish mix and she is bootiful mashAllah so u dont know what ur on about... not everyone from the same country looks da same


and why do u need to call them anything... they are muslims just mixed race... none of us is pureely anything anyways

JayC
24-01-08, 10:31 AM
and why do u need to call them anything... they are muslims just mixed race... none of us is pureely anything anyways

true ukhti...

Metroid
24-01-08, 02:10 PM
What about I marry 4 women Insha Allah (only Allah know what is best for me. Four wives could be out of His guidance)
Indian, Chinese, Black and White:hidban:
or Russian, Pakistani, Japanese and native american
or Vietnamese, Malaysian, Brazilian and Spanish
or Hispanic, Cuban, Hawaiian and a woman For North Pole:hidban:

But I need to get at least One wife let alone four of them lol

Medievalist
24-01-08, 02:11 PM
can work. cant work. as with every marriage.

My only real contribution here is to say that generally halfcaste kids are good-looking, obviously not as gud looking as MPs but they quite close.

:outta:

sis_niqabi
24-01-08, 03:24 PM
can work. cant work. as with every marriage.

My only real contribution here is to say that generally halfcaste kids are good-looking, obviously not as gud looking as MPs but they quite close.

:outta:

half caste? what decade are you in. i believe the correct and political correct term is biracial.

sis_niqabi
24-01-08, 03:26 PM
anyway. i think mixed marriages are great. i personally hope i marry someone outside my race

bint
24-01-08, 03:28 PM
i agree with umm bilal. u cant generalise on wether marriages work if you marry outside ure race..

its all a load of codswallop.

$HugoBoss$
24-01-08, 03:29 PM
shed be ugly but Ill tell you whats good, portuguese mixed with black..hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

:torture: :spunch::buttkick:

Your so wrong about that, you have no idea thats the hottest mix, spanish girl with kashmiri mix :inlove:

Ewwww black with portuguese i don't think so :nono:

Black with lebanese mix is good, i know someone with that mix, pretty good if you ask me :up:

Vietnamese with italian is also good :)

naima27
24-01-08, 04:22 PM
I personally know a sister who is half spanish and half kashmiri and Mashallah she is beautiful.
I am from the Carribean in which we have 3 bloodlines mixes: European, African and Taino ( Native Indian to Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico).
I think the mixture is beautiful. Could be why Puerto Rico has the most Miss Universe's (5).
Basically what I mean is that a mixture of races produces beautiful results.
I have no doubt a marraige of mix race would result in nothing but a perfectly harmonious union.. And think of the cooking ..:)lol.

naima27
24-01-08, 04:24 PM
Arab and latino make a good mix also.
Morican kids are sooo cute..lol.. Moroccan and Puerto Rican.:inlove:

$HugoBoss$
24-01-08, 04:28 PM
I personally know a sister who is half spanish and half kashmiri and Mashallah she is beautiful.
I am from the Carribean in which we have 3 bloodlines mixes: European, African and Taino ( Native Indian to Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico).
I think the mixture is beautiful. Could be why Puerto Rico has the most Miss Universe's (5).
Basically what I mean is that a mixture of races produces beautiful results.
I have no doubt a marraige of mix race would result in nothing but a perfectly harmonious union.. And think of the cooking ..:)lol.

I do to :inlove:

Omar Mukhtar
24-01-08, 05:44 PM
opposites attract, likes repel.

GuCcI
24-01-08, 05:47 PM
opposites attract, likes repel.

oh nooo... back to my confused thread :(

MustBePatient
24-01-08, 06:17 PM
opposites attract, likes repel.

that's not true, it's just a thing said by people but studies show the opposite

wa salam

GuCcI
24-01-08, 06:21 PM
I do to :inlove:

teee heee i wonder whooo :p

~Unity~
24-01-08, 06:59 PM
Chill out ppl inshaAllah. All mixes are cool. Just marry who you are happy with inshaAllah race should not be an issue although everyone has a right for preference and has humans some ppl prefer to stick to their own others don't. Fair enough. Again all mixes are cool and again lets not get angry cos some ppl don't mean it with those intentions, it is often difficult to express yourself over a forum. But perhaps 'eeeww' was a bit unecessary. Okay I shall bore you no longer :o

Le Croyant
24-01-08, 07:07 PM
I have many men in my family & friends who have married Indians & Indonesians. Alhamdullilah, they have had good marriages.

Al-Nasser
24-01-08, 08:26 PM
i am very open about interracial marriage and inshallah my 3rd wife will be half-Asian half-African......one of the most delicious mixes ever

Le Croyant
24-01-08, 08:27 PM
who's going to be no.1 & no.2

Al-Nasser
24-01-08, 08:42 PM
i am not sure

i am sure about one thing......there is a Somali girl probably living near to where i live.....i saw her only once and was totally and shamefully gobsmacked and didn't say a word.......if i ever see her again i will propose to her at the spot...

she was wearing modest......she was with her mother and three little ultra hyper creatures (hopefully her brothers not her sons)

Cartman
25-01-08, 12:42 AM
:torture: :spunch::buttkick:

Your so wrong about that, you have no idea thats the hottest mix, spanish girl with kashmiri mix :inlove:

Ewwww black with portuguese i don't think so :nono:

Black with lebanese mix is good, i know someone with that mix, pretty good if you ask me :up:

Vietnamese with italian is also good :)

hugo, youre just crazy.

:torture:


portuguese black mix is as good as you can get. perfect yellowbone skin, with all the bells and whistle

JayC
25-01-08, 01:45 AM
some friendly naseeha, and so inshAllah take it as such... my brothers you do disappoint me sometimes.
remember everything is public, and some of these things really should make you blush. perhaps this is something you can go to town with in the brothers section? if not just leave it because your physical preferences in women is not something that should be talked of so casually infront of the dunya.
inshAllah no offence is taken, jazakAllah khayr.

Medievalist
25-01-08, 10:50 AM
some friendly naseeha, and so inshAllah take it as such... my brothers you do disappoint me sometimes.
remember everything is public, and some of these things really should make you blush. perhaps this is something you can go to town with in the brothers section? if not just leave it because your physical preferences in women is not something that should be talked of so casually infront of the dunya.
inshAllah no offence is taken, jazakAllah khayr.

yeh, I agree wiv wt she sed :torture:

White Tiger
28-01-08, 08:45 PM
asalaamu alaykum to all,

i wanted to know your wat ur thoughts were about this topic. Do you think that mix race marriages work and last longer than marriages fromthe same race. i know that the main problem for mix race marriages is culture clash wat are your views and would you marry same whose not from the same country as you?
Our beloved Nabi Saws married from different tribes not from his own family (ie cousins etc) although this is permitted in Islam lets look at the major benefit from this. It brings different tribes (race etc) together.

Subhana Allah.

LastFriday
28-01-08, 10:47 PM
I don't know if my parents will let me marry some one from Pakistan let alone MOROCCO or SAUDI.... =\,And I'm from North India. I mean I'm sure I could convince them, but...they wouldn't like it deep down =( But Speaking of Mixes, how about Indian and Scottish :rolleyes:

Aboo Uthmaan
29-01-08, 05:44 AM
were all one race, humans...

all our skin differences are just adaptations to our climate
The Prophet Muhammad (sall-Allaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said:

“Allaah created Adam from a handful of dust taken from different lands, so the children of Adam have been created according to the composition of the land. Therefore from mankind we have white, red, black and yellow ones; we have good and evil, ease and sorrow, and what comes in between them.” (Reported by at-Tirmidhee, Aboo Daawood and Ahmad, al-Albaanee graded it Saheeh in ‘Saheeh al-Jami’ as-Sagheer’, No. 1759)

Aboo Uthmaan
29-01-08, 05:47 AM
some friendly naseeha, and so inshAllah take it as such... my brothers you do disappoint me sometimes.
remember everything is public, and some of these things really should make you blush. perhaps this is something you can go to town with in the brothers section? if not just leave it because your physical preferences in women is not something that should be talked of so casually infront of the dunya.
inshAllah no offence is taken, jazakAllah khayr.
Yes, some of the vivid descriptions that are being posted are shocking, jazak'Allaahu khair for the reminder!

.: Anna :.
29-01-08, 12:23 PM
Yes, some of the vivid descriptions that are being posted are shocking, jazak'Allaahu khair for the reminder!

and if it continues thread will be closed and those people will be infracted. its totally inappropriate! use ur brains before you type please people :S

Ghuraba*
30-01-08, 12:15 PM
asalaamu alaykum to all,

i wanted to know your wat ur thoughts were about this topic. Do you think that mix race marriages work and last longer than marriages fromthe same race. i know that the main problem for mix race marriages is culture clash wat are your views and would you marry same whose not from the same country as you?

wasalaam
i havnt read the other replies so apologies if i repeat ne1.
basically IMHO a gud marriage isnt dependant solely on both ppl coming 4rm the same culture it includes many other aspects.
islam unites us, we get married 4 Allah's sake and if u marry a pious bro/sis then u both hav the same aims inshallah.....2 please Allah:up: so u'll both be workin 2ward the same goals:up:
bt i understand like 4 sum ppl it helps coz culture can be such a big part of ur life dat it kinda comes into everything:smack: family is important, n in a marriage it aint just 2ppl getting hitched its 2 families comin 2gether aswell. n if they dnt get on then its gona make life difficult 4 both of u.
oh yh so communication is really essential aswell.
but if the main foundations are covered then the rest will fall into place inshallah.
erm d'u get me?