Naming your child

[mashcaster]

I got this from islamqa.com

Quote:
It is good to pay attention to a number of matters when giving names to our children, including the following:

1. Recognizing the fact that this name will stay with the person for his entire lifetime, and it could cause some embarrassment or problems for him which in turn could make him feel badly towards his father, mother or whoever gave him this name.

2. When looking at names in order to choose one, we should look at it from a number of angles. We should look at the name itself, and also think of how it will sound when this person is a child, a youth, an adult, an old man and a father, and how it will suit his father to be called “Abu” (Father of) So and so, and how it will suit his son to be called Son and so son of So and so, etc.

3. Choosing the name is the right of the father, because he is the one after whom the child will be named (son of, or daughter of…). But it is mustahabb for the father to involve the mother in the decision and to ask for her opinion as to whether she thinks the name is good, so that she will feel happy.

4. The child must be named after his father even if the father is deceased or divorced, etc., even if he does not take care of the child or see him at all. It is utterly haraam to name a child after anyone other than his father, except in one case, which is when the child is born as the result of adultery (Allaah forbid). In this case the child should be named after his mother and it is not permissible to name him after his father.

But I do not know what it means and on top of that they did not back it up with quran or hadith references. Anyhow...

First question is, Where does it say that we MUST name the child after the father?

Second question is, How do we name the child after the father?

For example, lets say my name is Zakharia Hussain, and I want to give my son the name Zain. How do I name him after me? Do I name him Zain Hussain, or Zain Zakharia, or something else?

I do not understand how it works?

[.: Anna :.]

it means like how u say ibn so and so, bin so and so... u dont have to take fathers first name as the son's first name, so if father is named mohammed... the child is ibn or bint mohammed.. bt doesnt have to have the first name mohammed.
today people also give the child the fathers last name, which is also still naming them after their father.. its to show the lineage. as far as i know there is nothing wrong with keeping fathers last name as childs last name, rather than only his first name as last name... so u can put zain hussain or zain zakharia and there is no harm in doing either. but child should not put a different last name, like that of adopted parents, or shouldnt be mums last name it should be dad's..
but it doesnt affect the first name

[mashcaster]

So basically it is a must? You must name your child after you?

[.: Anna :.]

for the last name yes, either by him taking ur last name or by taking ur first name as his last name

[mashcaster]

for the last name yes, either by him taking ur last name or by taking ur first name as his last name

j/k

also

what if my fathers name is:

Mohammed Hussain

my name is

Zakharia Hussain

and my sons name is

Zain Zakharia.

How will the lineage be seen because he is not named Hussain as the surname?

If it was Zain Hussain, then you can clearly see the lineage.

Or is that not how it works?

[.: Anna :.]

brother either of them are fine insha allah? but if you want to ascertain which is better u could consult ur imam maybe?

i think it depends slightly on the urf (custom) like some people they are used to carrying on the hussain for all of them down the line as you said, in the west this is common.
other countries they all take the fathers first name as last name, so each generation the last name changes..

[mashcaster]

j/k

[Noor_Usman]

Asalamalikum.

The way my husband has told me to do it is father 1st name = childs last name.

So in your senario:

Father: Zakharia Hussain

Calling the child: Zain

= childs name will be Zain Zakharia


So when people talk they would say "Zain son of Zakharia".
Maybe to clarify it (if there are a lot of people with that name or like in a history book) they'd use your fathers full name in conversation if they knew it, so they'd say "Zain son of Zakharia Hussain"

and it just continues that way. So the 3rd generation...let's pretend we'll call him Abdul...would be Abdul Zain (Abdul son of Zain)......and so on and so forth....

[Le Croyant]

In our tribe we have 5 names.

Eg:

Zain Zakharia Mohammed Omar Hussain.

In other words:

Personal name
Father's name
Grandfather's name
Great Grandfather's name
Tribe name

[mashcaster]

Asalamalikum.

The way my husband has told me to do it is father 1st name = childs last name.

So in your senario:

Father: Zakharia Hussain

Calling the child: Zain

= childs name will be Zain Zakharia


So when people talk they would say "Zain son of Zakharia".
Maybe to clarify it (if there are a lot of people with that name or like in a history book) they'd use your fathers full name in conversation if they knew it, so they'd say "Zain son of Zakharia Hussain"

and it just continues that way. So the 3rd generation...let's pretend we'll call him Abdul...would be Abdul Zain (Abdul son of Zain)......and so on and so forth....

:jkk: for the clarification.

In our tribe we have 5 names.

Eg:

Zain Zakharia Mohammed Omar Hussain.

In other words:

Personal name
Father's name
Grandfather's name
Great Grandfather's name
Tribe name

mashallah, that shows the lineage nice and clearly. :up:

[Pist0l1]

:start:
My name is Daud Jamal Daud, and i got my name from my grandpa. But im looking to give unique names to my children insha allah because i want them to feel that their special and make them recognize that their life belong to allah and they will have to fullfil they rowl as a slave of Allah (SWT).

[ummbilal]

living in the west its easier to use one name as a surname, kinda like the tribal name...when my dad first came to england his name was his name son of my grandfather, this got werid when he got married and my mum took him name as she was catholic and then they had children and we all had my grandfathers name!! so he changed it to a surname used within his family instead!

[tickledpinko]

i know that most arabs have surnames, for eg., in my case, fatimah bint muhamad *my father's surname*...but i've seen cases where muslims don't use surnames (for eg. malay muslims), so for those who don't have surnames they just adopt their father's given name after the 'bin' or 'bint'.