Unthankful, ungreatful and still not sorry - must read

[Kasim2k7]

Salam all. Please take time to read this. We have three grocery shops and about three years ago we were looking for a worker and we got this muslim guy. He was alone and came here in scotland on work permit. He had family back in pakistan so we put him on the work. At that time we only had one shop. Then we bought the second shop. My dad started to be friends with this new guy. We moved this guy to the new shop. This guy was about in his early forties. My dad started to solve his visa problems and every problem. We got him a flat and everything. Basically we helped out this guy. Two years in, this guy applied visa application for his family to come over to uk. His wife, his three sons and a daughter came to uk. My dad again did all the arrangements for all the visa and flights and taxi and tickets. By then we bought a third shop. So the three sons settled in each shop. Everyone was happy. Some other problems happened and we had to sell the third shop after one and a half year. Now we only left with two shops. Our family can manage two shops very well but this guy asked my dad 'where will we go? I bought my family here to work. We have nothing to do'. My dad felt pity and for only them my dad bought this third shop (some other shop) and got one son to work there 6 months before from present day.
My dad bought them a good house to live in. The house is in my mum's name though. My dad applied for all their three sons national insurance, bank accounts everything. He even went to the appointments with them as they dont know much english. My dad even pays their tax which is 50 pounds a month per head plus the house and everything. Basically my dad looked after them as if they are his children.
But recently my dad recognized the money in the account is losing. Its not building up. Ever since we bought that third shop six months ago, the balance started to fall. First month my dad thought its just because we bought a new shop so the bills pay off and everything, its ok. But month by month the money starting to fall. My dad was anxious.
So just last week my dad told us the situation. So we decided to put a hidden camera (voice recording too) behind the counter in the third shop. Our third shop is a quite one and one person can manage it. So sometimes the guys second son is alone on his own. So we fitted the hidden camera on tuesday night. At that end it was very windy in the uk. So one of our worker's roof had fallen so i had to fill in for her. And my dad was in the third shop on wed evening till 4pm when the second son came in. My dad went away home so he was all alone till closing time.
I was in the other shop just about to close at 10pm when my dad phoned me to come to the third shop. I went there and my dad and my brother had the camera and they were watching the tape. They played it from 4pm that afternoon when the second son was all alone. At 5, we saw in the camera, he took a bottle of pepsi and he took a small bottle of Alcohol from his pocket, poured it in the bottle and started drinking behind the counter. Then he called his mate in pakistan from his mobile and started talking rubbish. He was talking against us and other things about his dad and family which we didnt knew and which we had to know. Then after an hour of drinking and talking he did the till and cashed up. We saw him putting money in his socks two times. He was stealing. My dad was angry. Then his big brother came in the shop (it was his day off) and this second son giving him stuff off the shelf.
So my dad,last night, picked up the guy and the son and the mother to the third shop and showed them the film. The guy knew my sons been drinking so he didnt care or anything. My mum was there too and she was really shocked to see that this guys son drinks and his dad doesnt care. I can even quote the sons mothers words. She said 'my son only drank a little bit and your creating all this fuss over it?' those words were a shock too. My dad sacked them all last night. The guy was crying and everything but we got told before too from some of our relatives that this family is not good. This and that. But we didnt listen to them. Now its a brand new day but without them. Im glad. My dad estimated the damage is in thousands. He was going to take the house back but thought if i take the house back then whats the diff between me and them?
Im not stating you my problems. The only reason im posting this all here is that some people are so selfish. We did all this for them and they kept stealing from our pocket. Its a shame and disgrace. Its humanity downgraded to zero. Thank you for reading all this. Please comment on this if you like. Jazakallah. Wsalam.

[angel*]

:rubeyes: OMG! Firstly i'm really surpirsed ur dad did all this for them that itself is wow, your dad must be a really generous person and for them to take advantage of such generosisty is unbelivable! How can people do something like that to people who have helped them countless times on countless issues? Its outrageous! Good riddance to bad rubbish is what i'll say. I know i'd be totally mad if i found that someone had abused my trust in such a way, and even more so when that someone happens to be someone you regard very dear as your dad must have done because he did so much for them.
Forget all about these so-called "freinds" and soon enough when they have to go and find other places to work and pay their own tax's they'll realise how wrong they were but then i guess it'd be a case "too little too late" but at least next time they'll think twice before doing thing's they should'nt. I feel sorry for such obviously blind people.

[Syrian714]

Assalamu Alaikum.

It makes me so angry to read how your family was taken advantage of. However, I do hope that this tragedy has not hardened you or your father's heart towards helping future brothers and sisters that may come to you in need, because masha'Allah what you did for that family was truly incredible and in reality as Muslims we should ALL strive to help each other in this great of a manner if we are able. Brother I am glad you shared this with me because I am choosing to interpret this post as an INSPIRATION despite the sadness of it.

[Kasim2k7]

Yeah its so outragous. Last night my mum was crying and i asked her why you crying? They should be crying. Im glad it happened anyway.

[Neurostyler]

Report them to the police. You have evidence of their theft. Why should they even be allowed to stay in this country? In what way are these people contributing?

[Phoenix CG]

your dads done a lot for them.

[Mace]

That's sad to read. Something similar has happened to me and my wife twice, in fact. (Which shows you how slowly we learn. :))

The important thing is that you don't let it erode your basic trust in people. Or, most importantly, the basic instinct your family has to help others less fortunate than you.

The rewards of helping the less fortunate certainly outweigh the risks such as this.

Of course you keep your guard up and try to install some basic procedures to monitor and prevent crime. Sounds like you've already started to do that.

[MG]

and then people wonder why most UK'ers cringe at the mere mention of back homers, there are so many stories of people coming from back home and literally treading and kicking down those who have helped them or got them here, these kinda people ruin it for the genuine people who want to come over with good intentions.

I feel so bad for your dad :( subhanallah he did more than his duty for this family, may allah swt reward him immensely for this.Ameen


You and your brothers just make sure , that bloke and his sons dont emotionally blackmail your dad into giving them a second chance, i.e. via their tears and cry of being on the streets, have they heard of the jobcentre and housing services?

Trash like this i wouldnt spit on them if they were on fire (ok maybe i would :rolleyes: ), i mean look at their defiance!

[neelu]

WS, Sorry to have to say this Kasim but it sounds like a huge amount of naivety on the part of your family (Dad in particular). Perhaps you should take the advice of your relatives more seriously when they tell you that someone is not of good character. I think your Dad should send an eviction notice to their house as they've probably been in the UK long enough to get Housing Benefit and stay elsewhere- otherwise they'll claim tenants/squatters rights and take the house from under you as well (a tenant did this to my Dad as well- always telling sob stories about his wife and baby to avoid paying rent only for us to find out he was a sob himself:p). They wont end up on the streets if you evict them- they know how to work the system so they'll find someone else to con instead but at least you wont lose your house to the most undeserving and ungrateful of people.

My dad sacked them all last night. The guy was crying and everything but we got told before too from some of our relatives that this family is not good. This and that. But we didnt listen to them. Now its a brand new day but without them. Im glad. My dad estimated the damage is in thousands. He was going to take the house back but thought if i take the house back then whats the diff between me and them?

[Te'oma]

Your father's generosity blew me away. I was amazed at how much he did for these people. Insha allah this doesn't prevent him from showing charity to those that deserve it in the future.
About the house, are they renting it or are they paying him back for it? If it was mine, I would be inclined to give them the bum's rush. OTOH the father isn't the one that was stealing so I would have probably sacked the sons and kept the dad on working but I would keep him on a short leash ie video surveillance or whatever until I was comfortable that he wasn't stealing.

[Kasim2k7]

The house is on the rent. My dad wont take the house back but he will get the damage out of them. I just did calculating today that in the last two months the second son (the one who drank) stole 685 pounds stealing topups for his mobile to call to pakistan. Just because we have 3 shops we didnt noticed the loss but the last two months they did enough damage. My dad was 12,000 pound in debt the other day. He was so worried. Its just he had good relations with the bank we are saved otherwise we would be on the streets.
It looked like everyday the second son stole about 150 pound average. Today i was all alone all day so i noticed the diff. It was huge. That 150 pound was added and that just explains everything if you get what i mean.

[Kasim2k7]

Generousity is something my grandfather had a lot. I think double than my dad. My father alhamdulillah is generous too. And myself I put others first before myself. But i have learnt a lesson. Verily a great lesson.

[Astraeus]

:salams

If they are sorry, it was only that they got caught.

Subhan'Allah, your father is a very good man. One who was stabbed in the back by supposed brothers he was trying to help. I hope this doesn't harden your father's heart from helping those who truly need it in the future. It made me very angry to read how these people took advantage of your family's generosity. I may have missed your answer, but what about criminal charges since you have video proof?

[Kasim2k7]

My dad did report it to police but the local muslim community tried to sort this. They tried to fix an amount that guy needs to give this much loss. It was sorted out but its in the process. Weve not talked about it much. Guess its over but overtrusting people is not a good thing too

[Sister Who]

May your dads genourosity be the deed that gets him to the highest place in Jannah, Ameen.

May Allah swt forgive and give hiddayah to that family and his kids. Ameen

Does your dad still have to pay the tax for them? Im just thinking buying a house is a mission, and for your dad to be keeping up with all of the payments must be making serious holes in his pockets.

[Fitnah Bolice]

Why are you selling alcohol in the first place? what difference does it make between the son drinking alcohol and you selling it, you're both as bad as each other. All the income is haraam, everything you eat, drink, wear from that income is all haram.

you deseved each other by the sound of things.

[Kasim2k7]

Why are you selling alcohol in the first place? what difference does it make between the son drinking alcohol and you selling it, you're both as bad as each other. All the income is haraam, everything you eat, drink, wear from that income is all haram.

you deseved each other by the sound of things.

Thats another way of thinking it yeah and we did thought about that. But who will believe since most of the shoppers asian got alcohol.

[RazielTemp]

Salam all. Please take time to read this. We have three grocery shops and about three years ago we were looking for a worker and we got this muslim guy. He was alone and came here in scotland on work permit. He had family back in pakistan so we put him on the work. At that time we only had one shop. Then we bought the second shop. My dad started to be friends with this new guy. We moved this guy to the new shop. This guy was about in his early forties. My dad started to solve his visa problems and every problem. We got him a flat and everything. Basically we helped out this guy. Two years in, this guy applied visa application for his family to come over to uk. His wife, his three sons and a daughter came to uk. My dad again did all the arrangements for all the visa and flights and taxi and tickets. By then we bought a third shop. So the three sons settled in each shop. Everyone was happy. Some other problems happened and we had to sell the third shop after one and a half year. Now we only left with two shops. Our family can manage two shops very well but this guy asked my dad 'where will we go? I bought my family here to work. We have nothing to do'. My dad felt pity and for only them my dad bought this third shop (some other shop) and got one son to work there 6 months before from present day.
My dad bought them a good house to live in. The house is in my mum's name though. My dad applied for all their three sons national insurance, bank accounts everything. He even went to the appointments with them as they dont know much english. My dad even pays their tax which is 50 pounds a month per head plus the house and everything. Basically my dad looked after them as if they are his children.
But recently my dad recognized the money in the account is losing. Its not building up. Ever since we bought that third shop six months ago, the balance started to fall. First month my dad thought its just because we bought a new shop so the bills pay off and everything, its ok. But month by month the money starting to fall. My dad was anxious.
So just last week my dad told us the situation. So we decided to put a hidden camera (voice recording too) behind the counter in the third shop. Our third shop is a quite one and one person can manage it. So sometimes the guys second son is alone on his own. So we fitted the hidden camera on tuesday night. At that end it was very windy in the uk. So one of our worker's roof had fallen so i had to fill in for her. And my dad was in the third shop on wed evening till 4pm when the second son came in. My dad went away home so he was all alone till closing time.
I was in the other shop just about to close at 10pm when my dad phoned me to come to the third shop. I went there and my dad and my brother had the camera and they were watching the tape. They played it from 4pm that afternoon when the second son was all alone. At 5, we saw in the camera, he took a bottle of pepsi and he took a small bottle of Alcohol from his pocket, poured it in the bottle and started drinking behind the counter. Then he called his mate in pakistan from his mobile and started talking rubbish. He was talking against us and other things about his dad and family which we didnt knew and which we had to know. Then after an hour of drinking and talking he did the till and cashed up. We saw him putting money in his socks two times. He was stealing. My dad was angry. Then his big brother came in the shop (it was his day off) and this second son giving him stuff off the shelf.
So my dad,last night, picked up the guy and the son and the mother to the third shop and showed them the film. The guy knew my sons been drinking so he didnt care or anything. My mum was there too and she was really shocked to see that this guys son drinks and his dad doesnt care. I can even quote the sons mothers words. She said 'my son only drank a little bit and your creating all this fuss over it?' those words were a shock too. My dad sacked them all last night. The guy was crying and everything but we got told before too from some of our relatives that this family is not good. This and that. But we didnt listen to them. Now its a brand new day but without them. Im glad. My dad estimated the damage is in thousands. He was going to take the house back but thought if i take the house back then whats the diff between me and them?
Im not stating you my problems. The only reason im posting this all here is that some people are so selfish. We did all this for them and they kept stealing from our pocket. Its a shame and disgrace. Its humanity downgraded to zero. Thank you for reading all this. Please comment on this if you like. Jazakallah. Wsalam.

Salaam Akhi,

akhi Tell your dad to Never help out anyone Unless he Knows them as he knows you ...

what Fraudsters/Deceivers and Hypocrites conceal in their Hearts is often difficult to identify ...

Insha'allah your dads Niyah was Good, and he will be Rewarded by Allah Ta'ala ...

Ungrateful wretches will get their due in the Akhira, unless they repent ...

also I hope your dads business did not involve selling Alcohol Akhi, that is Strictly Prohibited, Allah Tabarak Wata'ala Clearly states that it is the Handiwork of the Shaytan, and commands us to Abstain from it, and the Prophet :saw: condemner the Seller and the drinker both as Guilty ...

May Allah Ta'ala save us from such acts ...

:jkk:

[RazielTemp]

Thats another way of thinking it yeah and we did thought about that. But who will believe since most of the shoppers asian got alcohol.

Heres a Short list of things that the Shop shouldn't sell ...

* Alcoholic Drinks,

* Filthy Magazines. Newspapers ...

* Cigarettes ...

all of the Above are Haram, and should be abstained from,

Insha'allah if your dad gets rid of these, Allah Ta'ala will give him much more Baraka ...

:jkk:

[Sister Who]

Thats another way of thinking it yeah and we did thought about that. But who will believe since most of the shoppers asian got alcohol.

I didnt pick up on the alcohol bit, but bro I know you know already but check this

According to Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30
Hadith No. 3380.
It was reported by Anas (may Allah be pleased with him), that Prophet
Muhammad (pbuh) said:
“God’s curse falls on ten groups of people who deal with alcohol. The one who
distills it, the one for whom it has been distilled, the one who drinks it, the one
who transports it, the one to who it has been brought, the one whom serves it,
the one who sells it, the one who utilizes money from it, the one who buys it and
the one who buys it for someone else.”

I think the bigger problem here is for you to speak to your dad and get stuff of your shelves immediately.

[muslimma]

ini lillah hi wa ina illehi rajjeown :(

may allah reward you and your family with better profits :)

your reward is with allah swt enshllah