Please- Muslims around the world will be affected

[Muslimagirl]

Hillary Clinton just voted for what is essentially war in Iran. When Mike Gavel called her on it, she cackled.
She also voted for the war in Iraq, and is the only candidate who refuses to apologize or call it a mistake. Twice she voted for the Patriot Act, to restrict liberties.
She is, in addition, very pro-zionist.
The blood of thousands of Iraqis is on her hands and now she feels no qualms about adding the blood of our Iranian brothers and sisters.

I tell you this because I know many Muslims don't vote, and I've heard that those who do are with Clinton, because they aren't aware of her platform and voting record. If we all vote, we can form a large and powerful voting block.

Please, don't let more Muslim children die in another war. Vote for the only candidate who was against the war from the beginning, the only honest candidate who supports freedom and equality for all people: Barack Obama.

[abdulwakil]

This is complete nonsense, if Muslims are suffering, they have to return back to the way of the Prophet. That would mean making salaat, fasting, making dawah, enjoining good forbidding evil, fighting Jihad for the sake of Allah. All this and not committing Shirk is what will help the Muslims. Voting or struggling to make the word of Obama the highest is not going to help Islam or Muslims.

It is because you have left what Allah has ordained that Muslims will be unsuccessful both in this life and akhirah.

(And this includes any of the other clowns/tawagheet that are standing up for election.)

[Muslimagirl]

What you are saying is haram and shameful. In the time of the prophet (saw) every Muslim was urged to help and protect each other. It is a sin to judge the Muslims around the world as somehow as sinful and at fault for their suffering. There are good Muslims in Iraq and Iran- there are elderly people, women and children.
If thousands of Muslims in this country vote for the candidate who is anti-war rather than the candidate who wants war in Iran and the destruction of Palestine- imagine the effect. We can't do everything, no, but we can do something and together we can do more.
If Clinton comes to power and declares war on Iran, won't you feel anything for the Muslims there?

These are Muslim children in Iraq. Please, don't let the children of Iran suffer the same fate:
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/Sforzando6/iraq/iraq_child.jpg

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Apathy is not the answer. Do all you can to help them, and that means making a difference in this election.

This is complete nonsense, if Muslims are suffering, they have to return back to the way of the Prophet. That would mean making salaat, fasting, making dawah, enjoining good forbidding evil, fighting Jihad for the sake of Allah. All this and not committing Shirk is what will help the Muslims. Voting or struggling to make the word of Obama the highest is not going to help Islam or Muslims.

It is because you have left what Allah has ordained that Muslims will be unsuccessful both in this life and akhirah.

(And this includes any of the other clowns/tawagheet that are standing up for election.)

[hkrespect]

Barack Obama.
some obama quotes: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=756712

"I don't think there is any nation that would not have reacted the way Israel did after two soldiers had been snatched. I support Israel's response to take some action in protecting themselves." (August 22, 2006)

israel killed many children and elderly when they bombed lebanon, obama supported this.

"I think that military options have to be on the table when you're dealing with rogue states that have shown constant hostility towards the United States. The point that I would make, though, is that we have not explored all of our options...We have not explored any kind of dialogue with either Iran or North Korea, and I think that has been a mistake. As a consequence, we have almost no leverage over them." (Meet the Press with Tim Russert, October 22, 2006)

military options means war.

they're devils in different guises.

[Muslimagirl]

Thank you, Hkrespect. I really appreciated your post; sometimes I feel like the Muslim community has given up on political discussion.

But I think the difference is that he's qualified his statements. Whereas Clinton is outright in her violent sentiments, Obama, by saying that perhaps any other nation would have done the same or that options are "on the table," is playing to those Americans who do want war. That is, he's being diplomatic, ambiguous and political. And I think he has to do that sometimes in order to win. If he was as straightforward with how much he doesn't war as Clinton is with how much she wants it, he'd lose the right-leaning people.
Once he's in office though, he won't need to appeal to everybody and we can hope that he will promote peace.

In the end, you're right and neither is the ideal candidate for Muslims- but I think that even if Obama has made some qualified bad remarks, he's much better on the whole than Clinton.

All I know is that I can't stand to see another Muslim nation destroyed, and I pray that I can do all I can to prevent it.
It's better to do something and trust in Allah than to do nothing and let other people cast the votes that will affect us all.

[elji]

Hillary Clinton just voted for what is essentially war in Iran. When Mike Gavel called her on it, she cackled.
She also voted for the war in Iraq, and is the only candidate who refuses to apologize or call it a mistake. Twice she voted for the Patriot Act, to restrict liberties.
She is, in addition, very pro-zionist.
The blood of thousands of Iraqis is on her hands and now she feels no qualms about adding the blood of our Iranian brothers and sisters.

I tell you this because I know many Muslims don't vote, and I've heard that those who do are with Clinton, because they aren't aware of her platform and voting record. If we all vote, we can form a large and powerful voting block.

Please, don't let more Muslim children die in another war. Vote for the only candidate who was against the war from the beginning, the only honest candidate who supports freedom and equality for all people: Barack Obama.

I really want US to go into iran.. so that Iran can kick their sorry a$$ back out, and waste them silly. But i think both Obama and Clinton will submit to the war all you need to do to Obama is pressure him.

[ebolebo]

I really want US to go into iran.. so that Iran can kick their sorry a$$ back out, and waste them silly. But i think both Obama and Clinton will submit to the war all you need to do to Obama is pressure him.Sounds like you would also enjoy a nuclear apocalypse.

As long as you can watch it from the safety of your sitting room

[elji]

Sounds like you would also enjoy a nuclear apocalypse.

As long as you can watch it from the safety of your sitting room

Its not that i enjoy one (and a nuclear apocalypse wont keep anyone safe), personally i dont think any nukes will be fired.. it will be more like guerilla warfare. If anyone is cowardly enough to fire nukes it will only be the US.

All i want is US to get a right kicking up the butt so that they learn a lesson to not to pick and choose a country for invasion. Iran will give them just that.

Ideally i would like no one to fight anyone... but that just dosent happen.

[Phoenix CG]

Hillary Clinton just voted for what is essentially war in Iran. When Mike Gavel called her on it, she cackled.
She also voted for the war in Iraq, and is the only candidate who refuses to apologize or call it a mistake. Twice she voted for the Patriot Act, to restrict liberties.
She is, in addition, very pro-zionist.
The blood of thousands of Iraqis is on her hands and now she feels no qualms about adding the blood of our Iranian brothers and sisters.

I tell you this because I know many Muslims don't vote, and I've heard that those who do are with Clinton, because they aren't aware of her platform and voting record. If we all vote, we can form a large and powerful voting block.

Please, don't let more Muslim children die in another war. Vote for the only candidate who was against the war from the beginning, the only honest candidate who supports freedom and equality for all people: Barack Obama.
she was sent here by barack obama

[ebolebo]

All i want is US to get a right kicking up the butt so that they learn a lesson That s childish. What you call *a right kicking up the butt* I call a catastrophe, thousands of deaths, families destroyed, instability, risk of incalculable international complications (including nuclear warfare).

[Le Croyant]

Obama is advocating war on Pakistan...

How is any diffrent?

He's not calling for complete withdrawal from Iraq? How is he any better?

[afsalim]

US foreign policies are dictated by its military. The president is just a representative of these policies, nothing else.

[Muslimagirl]

PhoenixCG, no, I was not sent here by Obama, and I don't know why you would think that. I came here because I found out that many of the people in my masjid were either indifferent to the election or they supported Hillary. When I told one of my Muslim friends that Clinton had in fact just voted for war in Iran, my friend had no idea.

Meanwhile, all the liberals and even the begrudging media expected Obama to take NH- but because a few more people voted than expected, Obama lost 36-39 to Hillary. This evinces that a few votes can make a difference. And afterall, Bush's re-election was something like 51-49. If all the Muslims had voted against him, maybe they could have made a large enough voting block to switch that 51-49 to 49-51 and Gore would be the president now, with his obsession with pollution instead of Bush's with war.

As for Pakistan: Obama never said he wanted war with Pakistan. I think what you're referring to is when he said "militants in the northwest provinces that are going back and forth between the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan.” I think when he said that, he was contrasting himself with Bush. Bush saw 9/11 as a reason to destroy the entire nations of Afghanistan and Iraq, whereas Obama is saying to any American who is still concerned about 9/11 that he would go after not nations but specific "militants." It was ambiguous, political, diplomatic speech again to make sure that he doesn't lose the right-leaning vote even if he is left-leaning himself. This kind of qualified speech is much preferrable to the outright violent sentiments of Clinton. He also is calling for an end to the war in Iraq, as he has stated in the debates. Moreover, he's the only candidate who was against the war from the beginning.

The other thing about Obama: he spent his childhood in Indonesia. He lived among Muslims; they were his friends and teachers and I think for that reason, he has no hate in his heart for us.

Also, Obama's father was a Muslim. His father wasn't a very good Muslim- he became practically atheist and then abandoned the family- but still, it allowed Obama to know that Islam is a religion and so he can regard it intellectually, the way he regards Christianity. This is a welcome change to the way Bush regards Islam as an enemy and declares "crusades."

[Phoenix CG]

Are you related to him?

[Le Croyant]

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, under attack from a rival who portrays him as naive on foreign policy, declared Wednesday that he would use military force against Al Qaeda operatives hiding in tribal areas of Pakistan if that nation did not move more aggressively against them first.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-obama2aug02,0,5330469.story?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed

[Le Croyant]

Why not vote for Dennis K or Ron Paul, they not did vote against the war & have always been against it.

They call for withdrawal of all army & no more war for so called freedom.

Why not them?

[mastralvarado]

It doesn't matter who gets to power. If a president opposes the agenda of the pro-zionists they'll either be assasinated be it the president or vice president. There are many different people down the hierarchy who want the commander in chief puppet position. The hidden 4th power puppeteer is the one who controls the show.