Christian couple have 17 children

[ummbilal]

subhannallah, they have 17 children, home school and built their own house, the father works in construction and provides for this large family, now how can we the Muslim say we dont want more children?

subhannallah


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1308/1001301886_f1ab3f666d.jpg

I watched the programme where this family buit their own home, each child over the age of 7 (allahu alam) was given a power drill to help out, how cool is that!!!

[dhakiyya]

:rubeyes: mashaAllah seventeen children........... with just one wife??? (I presume not mormon) .... MashaAllah!!

May Allah bless all of us with lots of pious happy healthy Musilm children :up: Ameen

[Cartman]

i feel sorry for thoe kids.....their family just seems wacky, they look like they get made fun of a lot

[ummbilal]

i feel sorry for thoe kids.....their family just seems wacky, they look like they get made fun of a lot

who would make fun? they are home schooled?

[~Unity~]

Oh wow! My nan had thirteen I thought that was impressive!

[Arsalan]

Imagine how much child tax credit you can get with 17 children. And Child benefit too.
:up:

[~Unity~]

Imagine how much child tax credit you can get with 17 children. And Child benefit too.
:up:

My nan had them all in the desert...so no benefits for her. Well except the benefits of having children..if u know what I mean!

[Arsalan]

My nan had them all in the desert...so no benefits for her. Well except the benefits of having children..if u know what I mean!

Yeh. MashAllah!!!

Isnt child brith suppose to be like risky and dangerous for many women? Or is that just some women. 17 children is like a high risk "process"

[~Unity~]

Yeh. MashAllah!!!

Isnt child brith suppose to be like risky and dangerous for many women? Or is that just some women. 17 children is like a high risk "process"

I aint no doctor but I assume it is just some women. Yeah 17 is way over the top - and so is 13 but some women are just blessed that they can cope mentally and physically and it does not affect their overall health. I don't think you're average woman could have that many kids- nor would she want to!

[ummbilal]

every birth is more dangerous with greater risks...

[Cartman]

according to the left wing radicals "science", like 5 of those kids should be reaaly effeminate or gay

[~Unity~]

every birth is more dangerous with greater risks...

There you go!

[Arsalan]

:rolleyes: too much emphasis is placed on statistics even to decide what is morally tolerable lol, that happens in a society without emphais on religion.

anyways the girl with short hair at the back on the top left looks gay, or is that a boy.??:confused:

[Pro_Candy]

Why does this thread have such a negative tone? If this were a Muslim couple, I'm sure this would have taken a different spin.

This family is very well organized, each older sibling helping the younger ones. This family has no debt, they don't purchase anything if they don't have the money, and if they want something, they save their money for it. This family has a strong bond, something most families these days don't have.

If we could get over the 'but they're christian' attitude, we could actually learn something from them.

[ummbilal]

Why does this thread have such a negative tone? If this were a Muslim couple, I'm sure this would have taken a different spin.

This family is very well organized, each older sibling helping the younger ones. This family has no debt, they don't purchase anything if they don't have the money, and if they want something, they save their money for it. This family has a strong bond, something most families these days don't have.

If we could get over the 'but they're christian' attitude, we could actually learn something from them.

I posted this thread so that the muslims will look at ourselves and think what do we want for our families, i admire the fact this family do not rely on on handouts or benefits,

[Medievalist]

anyone else sit and count if there really were 17 kids in the pic? :outta:

[Saudi Prince]

:rubeyes: mashaAllah seventeen children........... with just one wife??? (I presume not mormon) .... MashaAllah!!

May Allah bless all of us with lots of pious happy healthy Musilm children :up: Ameen

Umm bilal, hat off to you! You're the first Muslim in the West whom I hear say this!

Dhakiyyah, how many children are you looking for?

[dodi]

I posted this thread so that the muslims will look at ourselves and think what do we want for our families, i admire the fact this family do not rely on on handouts or benefits,

Do you have a site reference for this family?

[Lambo5688]

anyone else sit and count if there really were 17 kids in the pic? :outta:

there are 17, i just counted. How many did you count?

[xyz]

there are 17, i just counted. How many did you count?

Did u make it 10 boys and 7 girls???

[Nirvana]

wow alot of americans

[Pro_Candy]

Do you have a site reference for this family?

http://www.duggarfamily.com/

I posted this thread so that the muslims will look at ourselves and think what do we want for our families, i admire the fact this family do not rely on on handouts or benefits,

Yeah, they do set a good example. If only we could get over religious differences, it's like once someone sees that someone (who does something good) is a Christian or something, we start to look for the downside to the situation.

Yeah, this family is not your average looking American family. They seem kinda 'odd' when compared to others. But they have religious morals, they have their standards and they stick by them. If you've ever seen the TV show that documents their life, you'd be amazed at how organized and happy they are.

Is it wrong to take a lesson from them, just because they're not Muslim? I admire them.

[Ruprecht]

Are those nametags they are all wearing?

[sunrise]

such a beautiful home mashAllah... man cleaning that would be a mission and a half!

she still looks so young ater all those babies they must be very well behaved

and their little school:inlove:

all their names begin with J... kool lol

[tickledpinko]

mashaallah...i saw a documentary on them...the kids are so well behaved! kudos to the parents, it must take quite an effort to get the whole family organized the way they are!

[AbuMubarak]

i also sense a negative tone

but i dont think its because they are christian

i attribute to the fact that muslims have been infected by euromerican ideology that says there are limits to how many children you should have

so basically, they cant believe that a european has so many kids

[umm_yusuf]

i also sense a negative tone

but i dont think its because they are christian

i attribute to the fact that muslims have been infected by euromerican ideology that says there are limits to how many children you should have

so basically, they cant believe that a european has so many kids

I agree Abu Mubarak. Its quite sad when you see muslims turning their nose up (not really referring to anyone on this thread but in real life) at people who have more than TWO kids. SUBHANALLAH, SHOCK HORROR she has TWO kids how ever does she cope?!:rolleyes:

I think the family is BEAUTIFUL Masha Allah Tabarakallah. I would LOVE 20 kids if Allah will bless me with that...ok 10 if I'm being realistic but I love children Masha Allah and the more the merrier.

The only thing i fear is giving them all their rights over me in terms of spending time with them and such. Alhamdulillah, Allah never burdens a believer with more than they can handle.

[sunrise]

I agree Abu Mubarak. Its quite sad when you see muslims turning their nose up (not really referring to anyone on this thread but in real life) at people who have more than TWO kids. SUBHANALLAH, SHOCK HORROR she has TWO kids how ever does she cope?!:rolleyes:

I think the family is BEAUTIFUL Masha Allah Tabarakallah. I would LOVE 20 kids if Allah will bless me with that...ok 10 if I'm being realistic but I love children Masha Allah and the more the merrier.

The only thing i fear is giving them all their rights over me in terms of spending time with them and such. Alhamdulillah, Allah never burdens a believer with more than they can handle.


i worry about that 2:o:(

[ze leetle elper]

Joshua, Jana & John-David (twins), Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, Joy-Anna, Jedidiah & Jeremiah (twins), Jason, James, Justin, Jackson, Johannah & Jennifer.

[dhakiyya]

Joshua, Jana & John-David (twins), Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, Joy-Anna, Jedidiah & Jeremiah (twins), Jason, James, Justin, Jackson, Johannah & Jennifer.

are those really their names or did you just make them up as satire?

[Joha]

are those really their names or did you just make them up as satire?

true (as in not satire)...there's a J is for Jesus theme running :rolleyes:

Nice to see somebody taking pride in their religion and heritage.

[dhakiyya]

:rubeyes: seriously!

(they shd all begin with I anyway - Isa (as) and in hebrew his name begins with y/i too. Oh well nevermind!)

You could in theory have a Muslim family where all the boys have names based on the root Ha meem daal... Muhammad, Mahmood, Hameed, Ahmad, and there's quite a few boys names from that root mashaAllah :up:

[Joha]

:rubeyes: seriously!

(they shd all begin with I anyway - Isa (as) and in hebrew his name begins with y/i too. Oh well nevermind!)

You could in theory have a Muslim family where all the boys have names based on the root Ha meem daal... Muhammad, Mahmood, Hameed, Ahmad, and there's quite a few boys names from that root mashaAllah :up:

lol, had a look at their website, pretty religious - what with their Bible study and all. Living in England, rarely come across Christians who actually believe in Christianity.

I know of one family of four boys - Muhammad, Ahmad, Hamid, Hammad

[Cartman]

lol, had a look at their website, pretty religious - what with their Bible study and all. Living in England, rarely come across Christians who actually believe in Christianity.

I know of one family of four boys - Muhammad, Ahmad, Hamid, Hammad

joha are you portuguese

[Joha]

joha are you portuguese

:scratch:

You just being sarcastic?

what's up with all this speculation on my ethnic origin - apparently I'm Palestinian, Syrian, Asian (bit of a large category this one), Celtic, and now Portuguese.

Just to dispel all these myths, I'd like to categorically state that I'm a hopelessly lost Black gender neutral Swan.

[dhakiyya]

Living in England, rarely come across Christians who actually believe in Christianity.


lol isn't it!

I have been accused of being Palestinian quite a few times.... if you have light skin and are a Muslim, often people think you're Palestinian because they quite often have light skin. I was once even accused of being the mother of a Palestnian teenager that I know.... (to be fair she does look a bit like me lol)

[Joha]

lol isn't it!

I have been accused of being Palestinian quite a few times.... if you have light skin and are a Muslim, often people think you're Palestinian because they quite often have light skin. I was once even accused of being the mother of a Palestnian teenager that I know.... (to be fair she does look a bit like me lol)

hehe - interesting choice of word - I suppose these days the only time you'll get referred to as Palestinian is when you really are being accused :p

When you're hungry, starving and homeless you're just a person on occupied territory. :rolleyes:

[Saudi Prince]

I agree Abu Mubarak. Its quite sad when you see muslims turning their nose up (not really referring to anyone on this thread but in real life) at people who have more than TWO kids. SUBHANALLAH, SHOCK HORROR she has TWO kids how ever does she cope?!:rolleyes:

I think the family is BEAUTIFUL Masha Allah Tabarakallah. I would LOVE 20 kids if Allah will bless me with that...ok 10 if I'm being realistic but I love children Masha Allah and the more the merrier.

The only thing i fear is giving them all their rights over me in terms of spending time with them and such. Alhamdulillah, Allah never burdens a believer with more than they can handle.


I completely agree with you! I truly hate it when some muslims would change their minds about stuff they used to not like JUST because the west start to do it!! God knows what I think anout these kind of Muslims!!

My ideal number of children is 8 (4 girls, 4 boys).

[Cartman]

hehe - interesting choice of word - I suppose these days the only time you'll get referred to as Palestinian is when you really are being accused :p

When you're hungry, starving and homeless you're just a person on occupied territory. :rolleyes:

i assumed u were portuguese because of your name joha, and that stuff that says o tempora

[Joha]

i assumed u were portuguese because of your name joha, and that stuff that says o tempora

lol, okay, I get where you're coming from - for the moment I was just puzzling why somebody would pick Portuguese!

Joha is a character in a series of Arab folk tales (and funnily enough in a series of Jewish folk tales too).

O tempora, O mores - Oh the times! Oh the morals! - quote from the Roman philosopher Marcus Cicero (so latin).

[Saudi Prince]

:scratch:

You just being sarcastic?

what's up with all this speculation on my ethnic origin - apparently I'm Palestinian, Syrian, Asian (bit of a large category this one), Celtic, and now Portuguese.

Just to dispel all these myths, I'd like to categorically state that I'm a hopelessly lost Black gender neutral Swan.

Joha, you can not be originally of other than these nationalities (Palestine, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Jordon, Egypt, algerian, Morroco). Full Stop. ;)

[dhakiyya]

hehe - interesting choice of word - I suppose these days the only time you'll get referred to as Palestinian is when you really are being accused :p

When you're hungry, starving and homeless you're just a person on occupied territory. :rolleyes:

well I love Palestine and Palestinians and have a lot of friends from Palestine mashaAllah :up: I don't mind really being accused of being one of them, and I don't mean that word in any pejorative sense. I tend to be a bit creative with my use of words :up:

[Saudi Prince]

i assumed u were portuguese because of your name joha, and that stuff that says o tempora

No, Joha is a well known funny charecter in Arab world!

[dhakiyya]

Umm bilal, hat off to you! You're the first Muslim in the West whom I hear say this!

Dhakiyyah, how many children are you looking for?

InshaAllah I want lots but my baby was born by emergency c-section and medically you can't have many more after that :(

However I did know this sister that had five or six babies all by c-section mashaAllah :up:

[Ruprecht]

:scratch:
Just to dispel all these myths, I'd like to categorically state that I'm a hopelessly lost Black gender neutral Swan.

Hmm... I had you picked as an English born (not sure what ethnicity), tertiary educated, married woman in her late twenties / early thirties.

I didn't realise you were being deliberately androgynous though!

Back on topic...
17 is a few too many I think. Not enough time to give them the individual attention I'd like to.
I think 4-10 is good, depending on financial capacity and where you live though. I'm not big on overcrowding.
Do they live in a rural area? It makes more sense then.

Edit: Also I think homeschooling a tribe of 17 kids in that environment could be a problem.

[Saudi Prince]

InshaAllah I want lots but my baby was born by emergency c-section and medically you can't have many more after that :(

However I did know this sister that had five or six babies all by c-section mashaAllah :up:

Are you so sure about that?! I once heard that if a woman has her first child by operation then she can't have a normal labour anynore but when I asked a consultant doctor in O&G, he said this not true!!

[dhakiyya]

Are you so sure about that?! I once heard that if a woman has her first child by operation then she can't have a normal labour anynore but when I asked a consultant doctor in O&G, he said this not true!!

It depends on the reason for the c-section. When a woman is pregnant inshaAllah after having a c-section they check to see if she has to have another c-section or if she can have a normal delivery inshaAllah. If the problem with the first labour was something that would affect any labour that she would have then she has to always have c-sections.

[Saudi Prince]

It depends on the reason for the c-section. When a woman is pregnant inshaAllah after having a c-section they check to see if she has to have another c-section or if she can have a normal delivery inshaAllah. If the problem with the first labour was something that would affect any labour that she would have then she has to always have c-sections.

Exactly! If the reason is still there then she has to have another one! That was his exact words!

[um-salwa]

MashaAllah.
Wow, can't imagine so many kids.
God help the mum

[ummbilal]

lol isn't it!

I have been accused of being Palestinian quite a few times.... if you have light skin and are a Muslim, often people think you're Palestinian because they quite often have light skin. I was once even accused of being the mother of a Palestnian teenager that I know.... (to be fair she does look a bit like me lol)

I get asked if i am palestinian and syrian too..:rolleyes:

never asked if i'm moroccan though!

[Islamiyyah]

I seen their documentary on TV not too long ago. The kids are amazingly well behaved, and they all help their mom a lot.

[Asmara]

It's nice to have a big family, but not that big perhaps.

[umm_yusuf]

true (as in not satire)...there's a J is for Jesus theme running :rolleyes:

Nice to see somebody taking pride in their religion and heritage.

:rubeyes: seriously!

(they shd all begin with I anyway - Isa (as) and in hebrew his name begins with y/i too. Oh well nevermind!)

You could in theory have a Muslim family where all the boys have names based on the root Ha meem daal... Muhammad, Mahmood, Hameed, Ahmad, and there's quite a few boys names from that root mashaAllah :up:

I was listening to a lecture by Imam Anwar al Awlaki (can't remember which one) and he was talking about his old imam.

Anways the imam's name was Muhammed ashr (or something like that denoting Muhammed the 10th) so he thought that that was his last name untli he asked him why are you called Muhammed the 10th and he said my father loved the name Muhammad so much that he named all his sons Muhammad so in order to distinguish between us they call us Muhammad awwal...and so on and I happen to be the 10th boy so I am Muhammad the 10th.

Subhanallah.

[dhakiyya]

MashaAllah - ten sons all named Muhammad! MashaAllah!

[sunrise]

InshaAllah I want lots but my baby was born by emergency c-section and medically you can't have many more after that :(

However I did know this sister that had five or six babies all by c-section mashaAllah :up:

my mum had 3 c sections in a row so inshAllah u defo can inshAllah :up:

[Islamiyyah]

I was listening to a lecture by Imam Anwar al Awlaki (can't remember which one) and he was talking about his old imam.

Anways the imam's name was Muhammed ashr (or something like that denoting Muhammed the 10th) so he thought that that was his last name untli he asked him why are you called Muhammed the 10th and he said my father loved the name Muhammad so much that he named all his sons Muhammad so in order to distinguish between us they call us Muhammad awwal...and so on and I happen to be the 10th boy so I am Muhammad the 10th.

Subhanallah.

Oh I remember when he talked about that! That was The Lives of the Prophet's lecture, may Allah reward him.

[Saudi Prince]

MashaAllah - ten sons all named Muhammad! MashaAllah!

Honestly, I think this is stupid thing to do!

[miss-islamic]

I don’t see the point in having so much kids. :rubeyes:

[zammy]

I was listening to a lecture by Imam Anwar al Awlaki (can't remember which one) and he was talking about his old imam.

Anways the imam's name was Muhammed ashr (or something like that denoting Muhammed the 10th) so he thought that that was his last name untli he asked him why are you called Muhammed the 10th and he said my father loved the name Muhammad so much that he named all his sons Muhammad so in order to distinguish between us they call us Muhammad awwal...and so on and I happen to be the 10th boy so I am Muhammad the 10th.

Subhanallah.

Ah, I remember that story from his tapes too. It is pretty amazing that he named all his sons mohamed masha'Allah.

[umm_yusuf]

Honestly, I think this is stupid thing to do!

:rolleyes:

[AbuMubarak]

Are you so sure about that?! I once heard that if a woman has her first child by operation then she can't have a normal labour anynore but when I asked a consultant doctor in O&G, he said this not true!!
my third child was a c section and there were others born naturally after that

[Pippin1376]

every birth is more dangerous with greater risks...

Perhaps, but it's also easier. I was reading the newspaper about this couple who welcomed their 12th child and the child just popped out while she was on the toilet. Number 11 came out while she was taking a bath.

[Kal-El]

http://www.duggarfamily.com/photos.html

Beautiful family, and what a beautiful home!

[zammy]

woow masha'Allah! I can't help imagining that family becoming Muslim.. now wouldn't that be bayootiful. :inlove:

[*IslamicGirl*]

:start:

subhannallah, they have 17 children, home school and built their own house, the father works in construction and provides for this large family, now how can we the Muslim say we dont want more children?

subhannallah


I watched the programme where this family buit their own home, each child over the age of 7 (allahu alam) was given a power drill to help out, how cool is that!!!

:salams
i had to pull this thread out cuz it's so cheery :masha:
:sub: there's something so heart-warming and nice about this story.
It's seven girls and ten boys correct?

(has any chat show host invited them to their show yet? :p )

:wswrwb:

[.: Anna :.]

dont think i saw this thread the first time round.
why are some muslims here making snide comments to them n things, there is nothing wrong with that amount of kids and we shud know that!
they managed to keep their home organised n look after them all properly, then we shud admire that.. its not easy!

also vbac isnt it something like 50% chance that u cn have it and 50% that u hav 2 go for another cesarian? then for only cesarian births they tell u to have that only about 3-4 times and no more bc it will become too much? bt then if its the case insha allah the mum cd foster some more kids or look after some orphans if they want to fill their house with many kids, insha allah they would still b able to find a way of doing that