Imam Jamil Al-Amin: Under 23-hour Lockdown

[Nazias]

Imam Jamil Al-Amin: Under 23-hour Lockdown

On 16 March 2000, Imam Jamil was sentenced to life imprisonment at Georgia State Prison, in Reidsville, on charges of 13 counts of murder and felony murder for shooting two deputies, one of whom, Deputy Ricky Kinchen, died as a result of the shootings.

Earlier this year, 1 August 2007, the Imam was then transferred from the Georgia State Prison to Colorado’s ADMAX Federal facility, America’s most notorious supermax prison also known as the ‘Guantanamo Bay of the mainland’. It is named as such for its housing hundreds of the countries highest-profile Muslim prisoners amongst others. This transfer, which relocated Imam Jamil thousands of miles away from his legal counsel and family, was indeed a surprising move, as neither did his record indicate on any institutional behavioural problems, nor did he have any federal charges levelled against him, which begs the question as to why he was being moved to a federal facility.

As such, this clearly violates his right to due process of law and procedure. This was moreover shocking in light of his having a pending habeas corpus in the state of Georgia addressing the any contradictory findings which emerged throughout the murder investigation as well as questioning the overall fairnes s of the murder trial itself.

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[AbuMubarak]

i wonder will muslims gather to support and speak out against what happened to imam jamil like they spoke up for the british woman in jail

[-Fady-]

Lazy Australians dont hold any programs against unjustice to the Muslims

[AbuMubarak]

fady

i found it quite strange that this is based in london

but alhamdulillah, muslims are thinking globally

[-Fady-]

fady

i found it quite strange that this is based in london

but alhamdulillah, muslims are thinking globally

inshAllah...soon the victory from Allah will come

[forever_shadow]

[removed]

Is this the guy?

because this man was such an upstanding citizen in the community. :rolleyes:

Just because he is a Muslim, that doesn't make him innocent. He did a lot of bad things. He deserves to be punished.

I wonder if those trying to help him reveal what the man actually did, or do they just leave that part out, tout the Muslim card, and oh the injustice of it all . . .

[Hisham Abu]

forever_shadow, surely there is no purpose for you to be here. The sooner you and your ilk are banned the better.

[Muhminah]

May Allah make it easy for him and his family. And may Allah help us all.

[forever_shadow]

forever_shadow, surely there is no purpose for you to be here. The sooner you and your ilk are banned the better.

why was the link removed? was that the guy? I guess truth doesn't matter here does it? Just the fact that he is a jailed Muslim is enough to rally behind him? Does it not matter he killed people? :rubeyes:

[AbuMubarak]

o forever,

you post daniel pipes on a muslim forum? you gotta be crazy

but here goes

h rap brown, now known as imam jamil al-amin was very active in the african american community when white folks were having dogs attack women and children

when brave police officers were using the heads of black people as drums with their police batons

when brave firemen were using extremely high pressure water on people protesting the racist policies of america

this is where rap brown started, mr daniel pipes conveniently leaves that out and says that rap brown is the agressor (typical white folk lying)

so rap brown accepts islam, and he realizes more truth about the world and he teaches and preaches islam to people (another crime in euromerica) so some sheriff goes to serve a man a warrant at 10pm

does that sound strange to you? imam jamil was well known in the community, his whereabouts have been tracked for the past 40 years, why serve a man a search warrant or anything at 10pm

sounds like some type of setup to me

so one of these sheriffs winds up dead and the same society that criminalized rap brown is now criminalizing imaam jamil

things aint changed, as far as him being innocent because he is muslim, it is an article of faith for me to believe my muslim brother over a kafir, any day

if i am wrong, the sin is on him, but i would never turn against my muslim brother on the word of one who rejects Allah

[dour]

Is this the guy, if so, should he not be in prision?

The origins of the case go back to May 1999, when a 55-year-old African-American man named Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin was stopped on the outskirts of Atlanta, driving a stolen Ford Explorer. To avoid arrest, he flashed a police badge from White Hall, a small town in Alabama. The ruse worked, and he was let off-but not for long. An investigation found that Al-Amin was no officer; in September 1999 he was indicted, on charges of theft, impersonating an officer and driving without proof of insurance. He was assigned a court date in January 2000.

When Al-Amin failed to appear at the hearing, a warrant for his arrest was issued. At about 10 p.m. on March 16, 2000, two Fulton County sheriff's deputies, both African-American, rode over to Al-Amin's small grocery store in West End, one of Atlanta's poorer sections, to serve the warrant. The young officers were cautioned about the fugitive: "aggravated assault, possibly armed." But they had no idea they were pursuing a famous black nationalist and the self-styled namesake of "rap" music, whose violent history stretched back to before they were born.

Here are some career highlights. H. Rap Brown was a founder and later chairman of the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee, whose definition of non-violence included his famous boast: "We're gonna burn America down." In 1967 Brown incited a mob to torch two city blocks in Cambridge, Maryland; "It's time for Cambridge to explode, baby," was his punch line. In 1970, while serving as the fugitive "Minister of Justice" of the murderous Black Panther Party, he made the FBI's "Most Wanted" list for the first time. A shootout during the attempted robbery of a bar on New York City's Upper West Side left him and two police officers injured. He did five years in New York prisons, including a jailhouse conversion to Islam, in which he took the name Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin.

Preaching a firebrand version of Islam, Al-Amin in the 1980s became a pillar of Atlanta's burgeoning Muslim community. He and the law stayed on separate paths until 1995, when he was arrested for shooting a drug dealer four times in the legs, and also charged with carrying a concealed and unlicensed .45 caliber handgun. A year later, he was investigated in connection with more than a dozen homicides, which a police report ascribed to revenge, business rivalries and eliminating people who "knew too much." By 1999 he was arrested on charges of driving a stolen car and carrying a concealed weapon.

Even so, when the two sheriff's deputies, Aldranon English, 28, and Ricky Kinchen, 35, found Al-Amin standing in a black trench coat by a parked black Mercedes-Benz, they were not prepared for what came next. Finding Al-Amin's hands concealed, they followed standard procedure and ordered him to show his hands. "OK, here they are," he replied and allegedly pulled out two guns, firing first a .223 caliber assault rifle, then switching to a 9 mm revolver. English was shot in both legs, the left arm and right chest. Six bullets killed Kinchen. The next day English identified Al-Amin from a selection of mug shots.

Al-Amin, meanwhile, fled to White Hall, Alabama, and for the second time in his life made the FBI's most-wanted list. Four days later he was caught - this time by no less than one hundred well-armed police officers. Al-Amin was wearing body armor when apprehended. Police found in White Hall his black Mercedes - complete with a tell-tale bullet hole-two cartridge clips, a .223 caliber rifle and a 9 mm handgun. Ballistic tests showed the guns to be those used to shoot English and Kinchen

[forever_shadow]

o forever,

you post daniel pipes on a muslim forum? you gotta be crazy


I've never heard of Daniel Pipes before today. I did a search on the Immam and that link came up.

[dour]

On March 16 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_16) 2000, in Fulton Country, Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_County%2C_Georgia), Sheriff's deputies Ricky Kinchen and Aldranon English (both of whom were black) went to al-Amin's home to serve an arrest warrant for failing to appear in court on a traffic citation of speeding and impersonating a police officer (he showed the officer his honorary badge that was given to him by the city for cleaning up the "West End"). After stopping in front of al-Amin's home and determining that nobody was there they drove away and were passed by a black Mercedes that was heading towards the home. Kinchen (the more senior deputy) watched the suspect vehicle and turned the car around and drove up to it stopping nose to nose. English approached the Mercedes and told the occupant to show his hands. The occupant did and opened fire with a .223 assault rifle. English ran but was hit 4 times. Kinchen was shot with the rifle and a 9mm handgun (3 times in the genitals). The following day, Kinchen died of his wounds in a Georgia hospital. English survived his wounds and while still under medication in the hospital identified al-Amin as the shooter from 6 photos he was shown.
Shortly after the shootout, al-Amin fled to White Hall, Alabama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hall%2C_Alabama), where he was tracked down by U.S. Marshals and arrested by law enforcement officers after a four-day manhunt. al-Amin was wearing body armor at the time of his arrest, and near his arrest location, officers located a 9mm handgun and .223 rifle. Ballistics testing showed that both weapons were the same guns used to shoot Kinchen and English. Later on, his black Mercedes, covered with bullet holes, was located.[1] (http://edition.cnn.com/2002/LAW/03/09/al.amin.verdict/index.html)
On March 9 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_9), 2002 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002), nearly two years after the shooting took place, al-Amin was convicted of 13 criminal charges, including the murder of deputy Kinchen. Four days later, he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.[2] (http://odmp.org/officer.php?oid=15375) He was sent to Georgia State Prison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_State_Prison), the state's maximum security facility near Reidsville, Georgia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reidsville%2C_Georgia).
Since his conviction, supporters of al-Amin have asserted that another man, Otis Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Otis_Jackson&action=edit), who confessed to the shooting (but later recanted) is the real shooter. Also the police initially believed the shooter was wounded during the gun battle, but al-Amin had no injuries at the time of his arrest. Supporters assert that the investigation and trial was plagued by irregularities, including the suppression of evidence. Some feel that al-Amin's conviction is politically motivated.
At his trial, prosecutors pointed out al-Amin never provided any alibi for his whereabouts at the time of the shootout, nor any explanation as to why he fled the state afterwards. He also did not explain the bullet holes in his car, nor how the weapons used in the shootout were located near him during his arrest. In 2004, the Georgia Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Supreme_Court) unanimously ruled to uphold al-Amin's conviction.[3] (http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1085416923085)
On, August 2007, he was transferred from state custody to Federal custody as Georgia officials decided that al-Amin is too high-profile an inmate for the Georgia prison system to handle. He was moved to a Federal transfer facility in Oklahoma pending assignment to a Federal penitentuary. On October 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_21), 2007 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007) the Atlanta Journal Constitution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Journal_Constitution) revealed that al-Amin was transferred to the ADX Florence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence) supermax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermax) prison in Florence, Colorado (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence%2C_Colorado).[4] (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/2007/10/21/1022whatever.html)

[AbuMubarak]

why does every story relate that the two officers were black

(can you see black in the night)

i would think a more proper term is that they were african american

if you want to discuss their color, it would be brown

but not in wonderful great free america

every article mentions that they were black

anyway, you can post link after link, the word of one Muslim supersedes the word of the kuffar

[dour]

anyway, you can post link after link, the word of one Muslim supersedes the word of the kuffar

So those who are not Muslim are second class citizens? Why would we want to live under or by Muslm rule if you think that? Why should people convert to that relgion if you support that type of thought?

Does not sound like a nice religion to me.

[dour]

why does every story relate that the two officers were black

My guess, they don't certain people to say.. "oh, it is some white racist cops who framed some black guy because you know all white cops are racist and frame black people for sheer entertainment."

[AbuMubarak]

if it wasnt true, it would never have become a cliche

i can think of a dozen recent cases of a white cop shooting an unarmed black man

i cant think of one instance of a cop shooting an unarmed white guy

lets see if we can think of how many cops have been jailed for killing an unarmed black man


if you said NONE, you would be correct

but lets act like racism doesnt exist

[dour]

anyway, you can post link after link, the word of one Muslim supersedes the word of the kuffar


If someone said, "The word of one white person supersedes the word of the non-white" what would you call them?

Now you say, "The word of one Muslim supersedes the word of the Kuffar" what does that make you?

[umm_yusuf]

What Abu Mubarak means (and Allah knows best) is that we don't take the word of a non-muslim over the word of our brother.

Also, we don't condemn a muslim based on the words or actions of non-muslims. This is our religion. If you don't like it, you know where to go.

May Allah hasten the release of our brothers and sisters and make ease their hardship.

[AbuMubarak]

If someone said, "The word of one white person supersedes the word of the non-white" what would you call them?

Now you say, "The word of one Muslim supersedes the word of the Kuffar" what does that make you?

if that white person is muslim, then he is my brother in faith, no closer to me than any other muslim, no further

if he is of the danielpipes, michael savage, flag waving, beer drinking, fornicating, non-istinja, standing urinating type, then his word is worthless

[dour]

What Abu Mubarak means (and Allah knows best) is that we don't take the word of a non-muslim over the word of our brother.

Also, we don't condemn a muslim based on the words or actions of non-muslims. This is our religion. If you don't like it, you know where to go.

May Allah hasten the release of our brothers and sisters and make ease their hardship.

So in an islamic society, those who are not Muslims are second class citizens, and they cannot even testify in court because their words and evidence they give are null and void?

That is your idea of a perfect society?

[AbuMubarak]

a perfect society would be one in which there are no kafirs

but that aint happenin soon

but to answer your question, the testimony of a kafir does have weight

there are many examples where a muslim mistreated a kafir and was punished because of it

second class citizens? what do you think we are, euromericans?

there are no second class citizens

we dont write documents speaking of independence and all men are created equal and inalienable rights while beating our slaves

[dour]

a perfect society would be one in which there are no kafirs

but that aint happenin soon

but to answer your question, the testimony of a kafir does have weight

there are many examples where a muslim mistreated a kafir and was punished because of it

second class citizens? what do you think we are, euromericans?

there are no second class citizens

we dont write documents speaking of independence and all men are created equal and inalienable rights while beating our slaves

just when a muslim is being convicted for a crime and lots of evidence to support it then?

[dour]

anyway, you can post link after link, the word of one Muslim supersedes the word of the kuffar

How do you explain this then?

[AbuMubarak]

dour, because we are in an internet forum, not in a court of law

most of this, from both sides, is repeating things third hand

so we cannot make a final determination here

[dour]

dour, because we are in an internet forum, not in a court of law

most of this, from both sides, is repeating things third hand

so we cannot make a final determination here

Then read the court case, look at the evidence, before you say someone is innocent. Just because the court and 12 jury members are not Muslim does not mean they say a person is quilty out of whim.

[AbuMubarak]

o, thats an entirely different issue

courts in america are not based upon justice, you should know that

its based upon money, perception and basically how the judge feels

for example, i am driving down the road, a cop pulls me over (happens all the time), he doesnt like my attitude because i dont kiss his butt

so he writes me a fraudulant ticket, i go to the judge, the judge dismisses my points and sides with the cop

that is an injustice

so i refuse to pay the fine, my license gets suspended and that stays on my record for 3-5 years

tell me the justice you see there

and believe me, i did not make this up

[Tahiyah]

o, thats an entirely different issue

courts in america are not based upon justice, you should know that

its based upon money, perception and basically how the judge feels

for example, i am driving down the road, a cop pulls me over (happens all the time), he doesnt like my attitude because i dont kiss his butt

so he writes me a fraudulant ticket, i go to the judge, the judge dismisses my points and sides with the cop

that is an injustice

so i refuse to pay the fine, my license gets suspended and that stays on my record for 3-5 years

tell me the justice you see there

and believe me, i did not make this up


i believe it

cops should be there to protect the streets but they are also there to make a buck and show off their authority over you

a sis i know was pulled over for something very minor and while he had her pulled over he decided to cite her for other ridiculous things. long story short she says to him, you should be out catching real criminals instead of pulling over innocent people and taking their hard earned money.

he looks at her and says, go ahead and fight it if ya want, but who do you think the judge is going to side with, me or you? (hijaabi?)

this same sister applied for a position as a 911 dispatcher, you must go thru a few different interviews. she was excited about the job, she really thought she had it, but the last question they asked her, during her last interview was...would you remove your head covering for this position. she told them no, it was part of her religion. why did it matter anyhow, she would be assisting people in emergencies via telephone? the interviewer told her, these are the "authorities" hiring you...they can do whatever they want. she did not get the job.

i am not making any of this up

[dour]

o, thats an entirely different issue

courts in america are not based upon justice, you should know that

its based upon money, perception and basically how the judge feels

for example, i am driving down the road, a cop pulls me over (happens all the time), he doesnt like my attitude because i dont kiss his butt

so he writes me a fraudulant ticket, i go to the judge, the judge dismisses my points and sides with the cop

that is an injustice

so i refuse to pay the fine, my license gets suspended and that stays on my record for 3-5 years

tell me the justice you see there

and believe me, i did not make this up

and I can even find more expamples of where people were found guilty when they were innocent, that is why I am against the death penalty...

But I can find many, many, many cases where people say they did not do the crime, when in fact they did, and many even later admit they did but were hoping to get off.

But in affect, for the most part, the court system in America does a pretty good job. Yes if you have money you can get better lawyers and such, and you are judge by 12 people, not just one judge.

Saying "he is muslim, he must be innocent because he says so, and it does not matter what other evidence there is, and what other peoplsay, he is still innocent." does not work.

Take a look at the evidence and reports and argue on those points if there is a fault with them.

[dour]

o, thats an entirely different issue

courts in america are not based upon justice, you should know that

its based upon money, perception and basically how the judge feels

for example, i am driving down the road, a cop pulls me over (happens all the time), he doesnt like my attitude because i dont kiss his butt

so he writes me a fraudulant ticket, i go to the judge, the judge dismisses my points and sides with the cop

that is an injustice

so i refuse to pay the fine, my license gets suspended and that stays on my record for 3-5 years

tell me the justice you see there

and believe me, i did not make this up

Driving a car is a privlage not a right. if you have to pay it pay it or don't drive. many peole get tickets, somtimes they think that is unfair.. get over it and pay or don't drive. It happens, but going to a judge for a trafic ticket is not the same as a jury trial with a huge amount of evidence and multi-witnesses.

[AbuMubarak]

that whole "driving is a priviledge" thing is for the birds

i dont have the right to drive a car because uncle sam says its not a right

talk about oppressive

in islam, a man has a right to a car, a wife, a home, a weapon

)ok, not car, but a horse) same thing

[AbuMubarak]

whether traffic court, criminal court, civil court or any other court

one should always get justice

but you dont, so save the patriotism nonsense, there islittle justice in america

[UnoDosTres]

why was the link removed? was that the guy? I guess truth doesn't matter here does it? Just the fact that he is a jailed Muslim is enough to rally behind him? Does it not matter he killed people? :rubeyes:

It depends on who the people were. If they were kuffar....well, "They're not people they're kuffar."

[AbuMubarak]

your troops kill people, and you rally behind them

he says he didnt do it, i know the american injustice system for what it is

i believe him more than i believe a people who took over 30 years to convict Byron De La Beckwith

[forever_shadow]

It depends on who the people were. If they were kuffar....well, "They're not people they're kuffar."

Kuffars aren't people now? :rubeyes:

[dour]

your troops kill people, and you rally behind them

he says he didnt do it, i know the american injustice system for what it is

i believe him more than i believe a people who took over 30 years to convict Byron De La Beckwith

So your argument is... "I hate America so he must be innocent".

[Nazias]

Human rights should not be ignored regardless of what crime one may or may not have commited. :up:

[Nazias]

Prisoners of Faith (USA): Imam Jamil Al-Amin - Request for Transfer

IHRC has been forwarded campaigners replies regarding their letters addressed to Warden Ron Wiley of the ADMAX federal prison which houses Imam Jamil. In light of this, campaigners should be advised of an added letter to the four existing campaign letters for Imam Jamil. The new letter is addressed to the Georgia Department of Corrections (GDC) Commissioner James E. Donald. Please find this letter below, along with a link to Imam Jamil's IHRC campaign page.

*note: Campaigners are asked to continue sending the existing letters found in the Imam Jamil campaign pack, while giving priority to the GDC letter over that addressed to Warden Riley. In addition, please continue kindly forwarding any replies you receive for your campaign letters.

The campaign pack can be found at:
www.ihrc.org.uk/show.php?id=3063

For more information, please contact the office on the numbers or email below:

Islamic Human Rights Commission, PO Box 598, Wembley, HA9 7XH, United Kingdom

Telephone (+44) 20 8904 4222 / Fax (+44) 20 8904 5183 / Email: info@ihrc.org /Web: www.ihrc.org

__________

[Name]
[Address]

Date

Commissioner James E. Donald
Georgia Department of Corrections (GDC)
2 MLK Jr. Drive, SE
East Tower, Suite 864
Atlanta, GA 30334
USA

Dear Mr. James E. Donald,

Re: Imam Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin 99974555

I am very concerned about the transfer of Imam Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin to the USP Florence ADMAX as well as his 23-hour solitary confinement and treatment therein.

On 1 August 2007, Imam Jamil was transferred from the Georgia State Prison, in Reidsville, to Colorado's ADMAX Federal facility. Prior to this transfer, Imam Jamil had already filed a list of grievances with the Georgia State Prison, which included denial of religious rights, sexual abuse and being held in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day.

The transfer to USP Florence, and to a facility which similarly keeps its prisoners in constant 23-hour solitary confinement in violation of the UN Convention against Torture, now places al-Amin thousands of miles away from his legal counsel and family. This was indeed surprising, as neither had his record indicated any institutional behavioural problems, nor had any federal charges ever been levelled against him, begging the question as to why he was been moved to a federal facility. As such, this clearly violates his right to due process of law and procedure.This is moreover shocking in light of his having a pending habeas corpus action in the state of Georgia.

Given that Imam Jamil is not a federal convict, I urge you to see that he is returned to the custody of the Georgia Department of Corrections.

I look forward to hearing from you soon on this matter.

Yours Sincerely,

[Name]