The Isaale Sawaab Project

[Medievalist]

:salams

I was inspired by bints organisation of a Quran Khatam for a sister who moved from this world to the next a few days back. I was pleasantly surprised at how many people volunteered to read a para for the deceased and it made my bwain tick-tick.

I think it would be beneficial for us to have a regular project going on for people to recite and have the reward sent to our Elders in the Barzakh. This will be a source of comfort for them and a means of salvation for us. Today if we remember and honour our dead, tomorrow someone will honour us when we dead, inshaALLAH.

In this light - a brother who is currently under a control order from government's father passed away last friday. Innaa lillahi wa innaaa ilayhi raaji;oon.

I wanna organise a khatam for the reward to go to the deceaseds father. Anyone interested should PM me please and I will allocate paras:

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[Medievalist]

When a Para is yet to be read it will appear in red, upon completion will turn green.

[Medievalist]

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[IbnAbdulHakim]

Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullaah

can someone give me examples of the validity of khatams, my family does it and i have done absolutely no research on it.

I dont reject it, i just want to be educated on it inshaAllah

[Medievalist]

:wswrwb:

Bro with all due respect can you PLEASE make a seperate thread about that. :)

[IbnAbdulHakim]

sry sheikh, i'll make another one now inshaAllaah

should have been more considerate

[Medievalist]

er no shaikh around here :scratch:

[elji]

Great idea

[Medievalist]

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[Redmist.]

I will read a para.

Pm me the details Med. I dont mind, ill read any para.

On that note my grandmother's brother passed away in India today. I just found out now!! Inna Lillahi wa Inna ilayhi rajiun. Allah give him magfirat and entry into Jannat.....Amin. Allah give the family sabr and help them in this time of loss :(

[urban_rose]

Inna Lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji'oon :( Ameen to the duaa.

I will read one too inshAllah, Med :)

[.: Anna :.]

I will read a para.

Pm me the details Med. I dont mind, ill read any para.

On that note my grandmother's brother passed away in India today. I just found out now!! Inna Lillahi wa Inna ilayhi rajiun. Allah give him magfirat and entry into Jannat.....Amin. Allah give the family sabr and help them in this time of loss :(

inna lillaahi wa inna ilayhi raajioon
& aameen

[Medievalist]

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[Ibn Khattab]

Med you are soooo fresh :rotfl:

[Medievalist]

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[Medievalist]

Med you are soooo fresh :rotfl:

ey?

Whats up with you?

[Ebony]

Nothing fresh about getting people to read Quran for the deceased :rolleyes:

[Medievalist]

Nothing fresh about getting people to read Quran for the deceased :rolleyes:

what does he mean "fresh" - as in freshy, pakyfyed?

[Ebony]

Thats what I understand the term "fresh" to mean.

[Medievalist]

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[Ibn Khattab]

i think i need some para-cetamol :rotfl:

[.: Anna :.]

stop taking it off topic and acting foolish please.

[Medievalist]

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[Medievalist]

Quran Complete.

:jkk: to all who participated in this blessed work. May ALLAH Ta'ala accept your recitation, make it sweet and fragrant for you in this world and the next. May He Ta'ala make us the People of the Quran and make it the light of our eyes and the comfort of our souls. May ALLAH Ta'ala grant the reward of this recitation to the Father of the brother intended, may it become a source of peace and comfort for him ni his grave, a cool shade on the Day of Reckoning and a weighty balance on the scales.

ameen

InshaALLAH I let the bro know that Quran khatam has been done for him.

Further:

I want to organise one for Nabi :saw: .

PM me please whoever is interested. Lets try and have it complete before big eid inshaALLAH :up:

[Medievalist]

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[Chained_Water]

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2303011&postcount=33

:salams

Bro would be OK to hijack your project for one Quran khatam inshaallah.

I know that Shaykhs students are organising for Ya Sin and Quran to be read for Sayyida Maryam, I am hoping many here will want to contribute and we could complete a Quran at least and as much Ya Sin as people wish.

Please let me know.

[Medievalist]

CW: obviously its ok. Can you just wait till the Khatam for Nabi :saw: is complete please, otherwise there maybe some confusion.

After that then you can organise what you like inshaALLAH.

[Chained_Water]

CW: obviously its ok. Can you just wait till the Khatam for Nabi :saw: is complete please, otherwise there maybe some confusion.

After that then you can organise what you like inshaALLAH.
:jkk: bro ..definately inshaallah will wait until until you finish this khatam before posting in here again. Sorry I'm a bit thick, I thought it was finished but it's just that all Juz have been given. :o

Until then people you are still free to PM me and ask for a Juz, 'cuz one person already did last night so it's underway Alhamdulillah. 2-30 remaining.

[Medievalist]

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[Medievalist]

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Brother with the remaining paras. hurry up please :)

[Medievalist]

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[Medievalist]

Im taking a back seat on this project for a bit. I've got uni exams. InshaALLAH if anyone else wants to organise a Khatam for someone then you're more than welcome. Only thing I'll say is that one Khatam at a time - otherwise it'll get too confusing. :up:

[Medievalist]

Seeing as no-one appears to be wanting to organise Khatam, probably people have revision and whatnot I was thinking about organising 41 Surah Yaseen for Madani Kareem :saw:

Anyone interested PM me plz.

[Medievalist]

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41 Surah Yaseens allocated. alhamdulillah.

[Medievalist]

41 Surah Yaseen for Madani Kareem :saw:

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[Medievalist]

41 Surah Yaseen for Madani Kareem :saw:

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[Ibn Khattab]

what is Anon?

[urban_rose]

what is Anon?

short for anonymous, when the person's name is not given *Thumbs Up*

[Medievalist]

Hidden and Public Actions:

In the religion there is great virtue in doing pious acts both in private and in public, depending on ones intention. To avoid show and pride and impious intention it is to do an act privately so people are unaware of what you are up to. But it is also permitted to do acts openly and in public if the intention is to give encouragement to others that they become involved in pious acts aswell - this is why sometimes in the mosque when people come to solicit funds they encourage people to stand and make their declarations, and why when jama'at asks people to come out with them they do it public and people declare their intended times to encourage others to come aswell.

So bascially just because some brothers/sisters do it privately doesnt mean you have to, your intention is between you and ALLAH, infact if your intention is to encourage others and others get involved because of seeing your name there, then inshaALLAH you get reward for them doing the good aswell :)

[Ibn Khattab]

short for anonymous, when the person's name is not given *Thumbs Up*

Hidden and Public Actions:

In the religion there is great virtue in doing pious acts both in private and in public, depending on ones intention. To avoid show and pride and impious intention it is to do an act privately so people are unaware of what you are up to. But it is also permitted to do acts openly and in public if the intention is to give encouragement to others that they become involved in pious acts aswell - this is why sometimes in the mosque when people come to solicit funds they encourage people to stand and make their declarations, and why when jama'at asks people to come out with them they do it public and people declare their intended times to encourage others to come aswell.

So bascially just because some brothers/sisters do it privately doesnt mean you have to, your intention is between you and ALLAH, infact if your intention is to encourage others and others get involved because of seeing your name there, then inshaALLAH you get reward for them doing the good aswell :)

Oh ok Jazakallah Khair :up: I thought it was an ummah member :o

[Medievalist]

41 Surah Yaseen for Madani Kareem :saw:

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[Umm 'Umarah]

Med, Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

Today I heard reciting Surah Yaseen and completing khatams is considered Bid'ah.

So i did an islamqa search

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=2253&ln=eng&txt=khatam

[ImaanSeeker]

Q: Is there a narration, which documents that Rasulullah Sallallaahu Alayhi wasallam ever performed an Ibadat like reciting Qur'an, and asking Allah to forward the reward to any of his deceased relatives?

A: Isaal-e-Sawaab (to perform a virtuous act and grant the reward to any person, alive or deceased) is permissible and in fact (Mustahabb) meritorious.

There are basically 2 forms of Isaal-e-Sawaab:

1. The conveying of the reward of charitable deeds.
2. The conveying of the reward of physical deeds that do not entail wealth, e.g. Salaat, fasting, Dhikr, recitation of the holy Qur'an, Tawaaf of the Ka'abah, etc.

The first form is unanimously acceptable by the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'ah. The second form is correct according to the Hanafi and Hanbali Madhab and several Shaafi'ee and Maaliki scholars as well.

As for the reward of Du'aa (which is separate from the above), there is also unanimity of the scholars in its reward reaching and benefiting the deceased. (refer al-Azkaar of Imaam Nawawi)

Hafiz ibn Qayyim (RA) states that if one accepts the charitable form of Isaal-e-Sawaab and refutes the physical form, it would be said to him: 'What is the proof to show that the recitation of the holy Qur'aan does not reach the deceased?'

And Allamah Qurtubi states, 'Just as the reward of charitable deeds benefit the deceased, similarly, the recitation of the holy Qur'aan, Du'aa and Isghtifaar also do the same, because all of these are regarded as Sadaqah (charity) in Shari'ah.' (al-Tazkirah pg.71)

He, thereafter, mentioned 2 narrations recorded in Sahih Muslim which prove that even Salaat and Dhikr of Allah (Tasbeeh, Takbeer and Tahleel) were all classified as Sadaqah by Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). Hence, there remains no dispute in whether the reward of Qur'aanic recital benefits and deceased or not.

Besides the above, we will now for academic reasons, mention some proofs that substantiate both forms of Isaal-e-Sawaab.

1. 1. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) slaughtered sheep during his farewell Hajj and made intention for himself and all those (alive, deceased and to come) who bring faith on his prophethood. (Sahih Bukhari)


2. Imaam Bukhari has reported on the authority of Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Abbaas (Radhiallaahu Anhu) that Sayyiduna Sa'ad ibn Ubaadah (Radhiallaahu Anhu) was away when his mother passed away. When he returned, he asked Rasulullah, 'Will it be of any benefit if I give charity on her behalf?' Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) replied in the affirmative. (Sahih Bukhari Hadith2762)

Hafiz ibn Hajar al-Asqalaani (RA) states in his monumental commentary of Sahih Bukhari entitled, 'Fath al-Bari', 'This Hadith proves the permissibility of charity on behalf of the deceased and that the reward will reach him.' (Fath al-Baari vol.5 pg.477 Hadith2761)


3. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Abbaas (Radhiallaahu Anhu) reports a man once asked Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), 'O Prophet of Allah! My father has passed away and he did not perform Hajj, can I perform Hajj on his behalf?' Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) enquired of him, 'If your father had any debt, would you have paid it.?' The man replied, 'Yes.' Upon this, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'In that case, the Deen of Allah has more right.' (Sunan Nasaaie Hadith26331)


4. A separate incident of a similar nature has been recorded by Imaam Bukhari in his Sahih (Hadith6698). Hafiz ibn Qayyim (RA), the famous student of Hafiz ibn Taymiyah (RA), after quoting the above Ahaadith, states: 'These quotations all concur with the fact that when the living carry out any deed on behalf of the deceased, the reward will reach him (benefit him).' (Kitaab Ruh pg.161)


5. Sayyiduna al-Lajlaaj (Radhiallaahu Anhu), a companion of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), had bequested his son that after he leaves this world, he should recite the beginning and end of Surah al-Baqarah at the head side of his grave. Sayyiduna al-Lajlaaj (Radhiallaahu Anhu) then mentioned that he heard this from Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). (al-Mu'jamul Kabeer of Imaam Tabrani; Hafiz Haythami has regarded the narrators of this tradition as reliable - refer Majmauz-zawaaid vol.3 pg.44)


6. Such has also been recorded to be the practice of Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar (Radhiallaahu Anhu). (Sunan al-Kubra of Imaam Bayhaqi vol.4 pg.56). This narration has been classified as Hasan (sound) by Imaam Nawawiy and Hafiz ibn Hajar (RA). (al-Azkaar pg.212 Hadith493; al-Futuhaat al-Rabbaaniyya vol.3 pg.194)


7. Allaamah al-Qurtubi [ra] states that, 'Some of our Ulama have based the permissibility of Isaal-e-Sawaab of the recitation of the Qur'aan on the Hadith of Sahih Bukhari (Hadith216, 1361) and Sahih Muslim wherein there is mention of Rasulullah [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] placing fresh branches on 2 graves and He [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] said, 'Perhaps their punishment will be lightened through it as long as the branches do not dry up.' (The Ulama explain the reason for this to be the Tasbeeh that those fresh branches will recite).

Allaamah al-Qurtubi further states, 'If the Tasbeeh of trees can benefit the deceased, then why not the recitation of the Qur'aan by a believer in Allah?' (Al-Tazkirah pg.70)

Hafiz ibn Hajar (RA) has mentioned in a reply to a query of whether the reward of recitation of the Qur'aan reaches the deceased, that; it is Mustahabb (meritorious) for one to do this form of (Isaal-e-Sawaab) abundantly. (refer Tawdehul Bayaan li wusooli thawaabil Qur'aan of Shaykh Abdullah Siddique al-Ghumariy pg.2) Besides these there are numerous other narrations of this nature.

It thus becomes abundantly clear through the abovementioned Ahaadith that Isaal-e-Sawaab is totally permissible in all it's forms and is in fact a very virtuous deed. This is the view of the overwhelming majority of the classical scholars (Muhadditheen and Fuqahaa) of Islam. (refer Kitaab al-Rooh of ibn Qayyim pg.153; Fathul Baari vol.5 pg.477 Hadith2761; Sharhus-Sudoor of Allamah Suyuti pgs.402, 403 Dar ibn Kathir; al-Hidaaya vol.1 pg.296-297; Fathul Qadeer vol.3 pg.65-66; Shaami vol.2 pg.243 - HM Saeed)

If after understanding the above, one still denies the validity of the physical form of Isaal-e-Sawab, then the following method can in no circumstance be refuted. And that is that after one carries out a physical form of worship (i.e. Salat, fasting, recitation of the holy Qur'aan, etc.), he should make a Du'aa to Almighty Allah that Allah, firstly, accepts this noble deed and he should thereafter ask Allah to grant the reward to so and so person. In this way, if Allah accepts the Du'aa, the reward will automatically be conveyed to that specific person alive or deceased.

This method has been prescribed by great scholars like Imaam Nawawi and Hafiz ibn Hajar so as to remove all differences of opinion. We have already mentioned that there is no doubt in the deceased benefiting from the Du'aas of the living. In a narration of Sahih Muslim, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) has mentioned that one the three things that will benefit the deceased is the Du'aa of his pious children. (Sahih Muslim pg.4199)

Lastly, we would like to mention that this Mas-alah (issue) is not something connect to beliefs, instead it is a Faraaidh (secondary) issue which entails a difference of opinion as well. (Fatawa ibnus salaah vol.1 pg.149). Hence, no one can claim that either part is guilty of perpetrating an act of Bid'ah (innovation), bearing in mind that the majority of the scholars accept all forms of Isaal-e-Sawaab. (refer Kitaab al-Ruh)

The incident of Imaam Ahmad ibn Hanbal has been recorded by Imaam Abu Bakr al-Khallaal in his Kitaabul Jaami as well as in his booklet entitled, 'Amr bil Ma'roof Wa Nahy anil Munkar, and according to this, Imaam Ahmad had approved of the recitation of the beginning and end of Surah al-Baqarah (refer Atharul Hadith of al-Muhaddith Shaykh Muhammad Awwaamah pgs.162-163)

As for your specific query of the validity of reciting the Qur'aan from the homes, it will suffice to say that there is no difference - in this instance - between recital in the graveyard and in the homes, just as there is no difference in making Du'aa for the deceased in the graveyard or from the home. And allow us to ask the question, what is the proof for the act of reciting from home and dedicating its reward to the deceased being void and incorrect?

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best


Source (http://www.alinaam.org.za/dhadith/qna/isaalesawaab.htm)

[Umm 'Umarah]

sorry med, don't mean to ruin your thread..


akhi, ImaanSeeker Jazakallah for sharing, can you cite the source for the fatwa?

I was recently made aware and that khatam over the deceased is bid'ah but it seems some ikhtilaaf exists on this matter, even amongst the ahnaaf as it would appear.

[ImaanSeeker]

sorry med, don't mean to ruin your thread..


akhi, ImaanSeeker Jazakallah for sharing, can you cite the source for the fatwa?

I was recently made aware and that khatam over the deceased is bid'ah but it seems some ikhtilaaf exists on this matter, even amongst the ahnaaf as it would appear.

Sorry, I must have left out the source by accident.

Source (http://www.alinaam.org.za/dhadith/qna/isaalesawaab.htm)

Btw, would you be able to tell me which member of the ahnaaf said it was bid'ah?

[.: Anna :.]

There is ikhtilaaf about this issue, I'm sure people will be aware of it before participating. Therefore I would ask that people keep the discussion of matter out of the projects forum and into somewhere else like Learn Islam section. Projects area is ONLY for participation in the set projects,it is not for discussions and off topic posts whatsoever. Not in a harsh way, but just to have projects running smoothly we can not tolerate off topic in any of the threads.

[Medievalist]

41 Surah Yaseen for Madani Kareem :saw:

Anon1: 1
Anon2: 10
Anon3: 1
Anon4: 20
Anon5: 5
Anon6: 1
Anon7: 3

41 Surah Yaseens allocated. alhamdulillah.

[Medievalist]

Umm Umarah: :jkk: for your article. and you havent ruined my thread. I think Anna's response sums it up. If anyone wants to discuss the permissibilty or not of this project then they can make a different thread, just keep this one on track please :)

ImaanSeeker: :jkk: for your response bro.

Finally I just say that if someone considers it a bid'ah and wishes to refrain from reading then there is no harm in this, its not forced on anyone to read nor is anyone reprimanded for not reading. Its COMPLETELY OPTIONAL - if everyone read or if no-one read there is no blame on any side as far as Im concerned :)

And just as a side note the Khatams which are considered bid'ah are the ones which are made custom or compulsary or a means of show. etc.

[Medievalist]

I cant remember who Anon4 is? Whoever had 20 Surah Yaseens to read, please can you PM me to tell me if you would like them to be allocated to others or if you've read. :jkk:

[Medievalist]

BUMP.

Anon4: identify yrself pls.

[Medievalist]

41 Surah Yaseen for Madani Kareem :saw:

Anon1: 1
Anon2: 10
Anon3: 1
Anon4: 20
Anon5: 5
Anon6: 1
Anon7: 3

41 Surah Yaseens allocated. alhamdulillah.

nearly done :D

[Medievalist]

41 Surah Yaseen for Madani Kareem :saw:

Anon1: 1
Anon2: 10
Anon3: 1
Anon4: 20
Anon5: 5
Anon6: 1
Anon7: 3

Alhamdulillah complete.

If anyone else wants to start a khatam or recitation for for our deceased then feel free. But one at a time, otherwise there is gonna be confusion.