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insomniac
14-11-07, 05:31 PM
Message from London Guantanamo Campaign
email: london_gitmo@yahoo.co.uk

Dear friend

We would appreciate if you could write a letter to your MP opposing the government seeking draconian police powers such as the extension of pre-charge detention from 28 to 56 days. You can find all the arguments against these measures and resources including a draft letter on our website www.campacc.org.uk Please forward this email to your contacts.

However if you want to send a quick letter by email, you can do it in less than 5 minutes by following these steps

1. Please click this link http://www.writetothem.com/
2. A separate window will appear. Put in your post code and you will get a link to your MP.
3. Click that it will take to a form. entering your details and space for the letter
4. Then copy this letter below and paste it in the space for the letter in the form. Edit it.
5. Send
6. Go back to your email. You will get a message to confirm that you want to send the message. Click the link.

Draft letter






Dear Local MP dude/dudette (search www.writetothem.com),


Re: Counter Terrorism Bill 2007 proposals

I am writing to you as your constituent to express my concerns about the government’s proposals for the Counter-Terrorism Bill 2007.

These proposals seek to extend the injustice of current police powers, which are extensive already.These proposals are based on the Terrorism Act 2000, which has defined terrorism so broadly as to criminalise many normal political activities in this country and resistance to oppressive regimes abroad. That Act created the ‘terrorist’ offences of belonging to certain organisations, sharing a platform with their members, and helping them financially, for example by selling publications.


In particular I oppose the following new powers, which would be inherently unjust:

1. Detention without charge would be extended from 28 days to 56 days or possibly even 90 days. For anyone deemed a ‘terror suspect’, the current limit of 28 days already represents a drastic extension from that before the Terrorism Act 2000. There are no credible grounds for why such a long time would be necessary. It is equivalent to 8 weeks of a custodial sentence. The 28-day detention period has been used as a substitute for a proper criminal investigation, instead intimidating and stigmatising people as ‘terror suspects’. Extending pre-charge detention would be equivalent to 4 months of custodial sentence having serious impact on an individuals job prospects and family life. The majority of the people arrested under anti-terror laws are innocent and they need to be protected. Such a long detention amounts to internment in all but name, thus violating the principle of habeas corpus. It ignores the principle that citizens must be considered innocent until proven guilty. Police naturally want as much time as possible to lean on a suspect before honouring this principle. They may also lobby government to give them such powers, but in a free society, the police enforce the law, they don't make it.

2. Post-charge questioning of ‘terror suspects’
Likewise such powers can be used to intimidate detainees, as a substitute for an adequate basis for the criminal charge in the first place. There needs to appropriate judicial oversight to ensure that this is supervised rigorously to prevent intimidation and pro-longed interrogation.

3. A new criminal offence of seeking ‘information which could be useful for terrorism’.
This offence would apply regardless of whether or not the seeker intends a ‘terrorist’ use – again terrorism being defined in such a broad way as to encompass many non-violent activities and to criminalise the peace movement, some strikers, or anyone planning boycotts, pickets, blockades etc. Information ‘which could be useful for terrorism’ can mean nearly anything, e.g. having maps or researching companies, and would be used for speculative charges to harass or criminalise political activists.


4. Travel restrictions for ‘suspects’
For mere suspicion of involvement in terrorism, anyone could face travel restrictions and be deprived of their passport. Protesters could be prevented from travelling to international demonstrations. Like control orders, this would be punishment without trial.

5. Collective punishment of families of convicted terrorists
Under control orders, the imposing of curfews, electronic tagging, restrictions on the use of telephones (and mobile phones and the Internet) and restrictions on visits by relatives and friends, even of children, have turned homes into prisons for the family as a whole. The proposal to make it easier for the court to order the forfeiture of complex assets, such as a house and a flat of a convicted terrorist would punish the family. Given the recent convictions for possessing DVDs however radical under the provisions of the ‘glorification of terrorism’, this move is extremely serious.

The counter terrorism powers that exist and the new ones the government is seeking are best judged by the potential effect they have on every citizen. Government has a responsibility to protect society from terrorist attacks; however, Parliament has a responsibility to protect citizens from excessive powers wielded by the state.

For all the reasons stated above, I ask that you give an undertaking not to vote for the renewal or extension of any ‘anti-terror’ powers.

I would be grateful if you let me know your views on the new proposals and where you stand in relation to specific proposals as soon as possible as time is of the essence.

I shall be contacting your constituency office for an appointment to discuss these issues with you in person.

I look forward to hearing from you.



Yours sincerely,


Your name insha'Allaah :)

insomniac
14-11-07, 05:40 PM
Some London MPs below:


Hackney, Stoke Newington:

Diana Abbott - drejerc@parliament.uk (PA)

Ealing:

Virendra Sharma - virendra.sharma@ealing.gov.uk

Tooting:

Sadiq Khan - sadiqkhanmp@parliament.uk

East Ham:

Stephen Timms - stephen@stephentimmsmp.org.uk

Brent:

Sarah Teather - teathers@parliament.uk

Bethnal Green, Bow:

George Galloway - Gallowayg@parliament.uk

insomniac
16-11-07, 10:01 AM
so who's sent it off?

elji
16-11-07, 10:25 AM
not just yet, hold on.

muhammed_1428
16-11-07, 05:56 PM
sent (to sarah teather :) )

dunya_or_akhira
16-11-07, 06:02 PM
may Allah swt reward you guys for your efforts if you do email etc... however its a lost cause because with all respect these kuffar goverment officials will never side with the Muslims!

insomniac
16-11-07, 06:10 PM
may Allah swt reward you guys for your efforts if you do email etc... however its a lost cause because with all respect these kuffar goverment officials will never side with the Muslims!

Ameen.

We don't know and we will never know what will or won't make a difference, but what we do know for sure is that Allaah swt is all knowing, so for real, we should rely on Allaah swt and do what we can do for His sake.

so all y'all I urge us to continue striving in His way and try and not get dejected about how little we can do, we just do what we can ::insha:

:wswrwb:

insomniac
16-11-07, 06:15 PM
sent (to sarah teather :) )

Masha'Allaah, she's very supportive :up:

insomniac
16-11-07, 07:08 PM
oooo yeh if you do send out any emails :insha: please blindcopy the following:

London Guantanamo Campaign - london_gitmo@yahoo.co.uk

IHRC - info@ihrc.org

Cageprisoners - contact@cageprisoners.com

Please send all responses you receive to the above addresses too :insha:

:jkk: :up:

muhammed_1428
28-11-07, 10:18 AM
I got a reply - It was from one of her secretaries as the subject said Chris Day:

Dear Mustafa,



Counter Terrorism Legislation



Thank you for contacting me regarding Government counter terrorism legislation. Like you, I am seriously concerned by such legislation



The Counter-Terrorism Bill 2007 is, at this stage it is a consultation on proposals, with plans for a bill to be introduced in the next session of Parliament after scrutiny. This is the Labour’s eighth terrorism bill since 1997. The Liberal Democrats believe that fighting terrorism is about much more than legislation. With their 8th counter terrorism bill the government risks – again – signing laws as a proxy for real action.



The British public rightly expect that on an issue of such importance to the national interest, parties will work hard to work together rather than create synthetic points of difference. But that consensus will only be possible if all the proposals advocated by the government are based on clear and compelling evidence, and achieve the right balance between our customary British liberty and new security measures. This is particularly important when the effect of both the language and policy of our anti-terror strategy can have such an impact on the views and opinions of precisely the communities whose cooperation we need to counter terrorism. I have yet to be convinced that the Government is making serious efforts toward these requirements.



We have yet to see any compelling evidence that increasing detention without charge to 90 days is necessary. Such a departure from the principle of habeas corpus must only be considered if there is overwhelming evidence, not for the purposes of “looking tough”. Furthermore, control orders are not working. We need to repeal the legislation and start again, not tinker around the edges. We are broadly supportive of the other proposals, but will need to see the detail of the legislation.

When the government does bring forward the full Bill, I will certainly read it carefully, as it is unknown what amendments to the law will be included in the final bill. However, I can assure you that I would oppose any legislation that will lead to a curb of civil liberties and due process, especially without any valid evidence in support of it.



I am sorry I cannot provide a firmer response at this stage. Please do not hesitate to contact me again, should you require further assistance, on this or any other issue.





Yours sincerely,



Sarah Teather MP



Liberal Democrat MP for Kilburn, Willesden Green, Welsh Harp, Dollis Hill, Dudden Hill, Mapesbury, Queen’s Park, Brondesbury and Kensal Rise

Seems like theyre doing something about it we'll just have to wait and see Inshallah

insomniac
28-11-07, 04:54 PM
I got a reply - It was from one of her secretaries as the subject said Chris Day:

Seems like theyre doing something about it we'll just have to wait and see Inshallah

:insha:

:jkk: for sharing the response with us. My MP still hasn't replied....maybe he's not planning to, I haven't had one response since he was elected a few months ago....


Please attend (http://ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2273084#post2273084)

MG
28-11-07, 05:11 PM
Heres the response from mine:

Thank you for your email.

The Counter Terrorism Bill has not yet been published, so much of what
is being suggested will be in the Bill is still to some degree
speculation.

It does seem likely that the Government will wish to extend the current
28 day limit on questioning and detention before charge. The arguments
used are that investigations of terrorism offences are becoming more
complex, with much greater use being made by suspects of computers with
encrypted materials on them, with false identities being used, and
overseas connections. A lot of this argument is true, and we are having
to deal with ruthless people who are quite prepared to kill others who
are totally innocent. That still does not convince me that we need to
extend the 28 day period. I have yet to see evidence of cases where this
period was not sufficient. Unless such evidence is brought forward, and
it is convincing, I will not vote for an extension of the period.

I am not against post charge questioning. At present it is not possible
to do this, even when new evidence has come to light. As with all
questioning there have to be safeguards. Civil rights organisations such
as Liberty are not against this proposal as they see it as a better
alternative to extending the 28 day period. If there is inadequate
evidence for a charge a court is not likely to agree to keep someone in
custody.

Whether there will be any extension of the powers in relation to suspect
who are not charged remains to be seen. I am not a supporter of control
orders. Either there is evidence to charge someone or there is not, and
if there is not then that person has to be regarded as innocent in my
opinion.

Yours sincerely


(enter MP's name)

insomniac
05-12-07, 08:02 PM
thanks MG :)

No response from my MP even yet :rubeyes:

muhammed_1428
05-12-07, 08:12 PM
who is your mp?

insomniac
05-12-07, 08:20 PM
who is your mp?

this lazy guy - have never heard from him since he came in power a few months ago - his email is dodgy me thinks - his email's not on www.writetothem.com