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(*_Hamzah
08-11-07, 10:01 AM
Top brother, locked up and still humble, :masha:


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abdusamad
08-11-07, 10:02 AM
i guess camera man is the third man.

(*_Hamzah
08-11-07, 10:07 AM
i guess camera man is the third man.

assslaaam alaikum

what do you mean?

abdusamad
08-11-07, 10:10 AM
They dont go out for 'gush' (i believe thats the term when they go out to give dawah on the street) with less than 3 people. Your stronger as 3 and less likely to be temped by shaytaan.

aboosait
08-11-07, 10:52 AM
The young man is speaking of Oneness of the Creator which very few "kuffar" adisagree with. Teaching oneness of Allah was not the only mission of the Prophets.


Allah had been sending Prophets and Messengers to His devotees


in order to invite them to the worship of Allah and Allah Alone,

to order them not to ascribe partners unto Him

and bring them out of the darkness of polytheism and into the light of Monotheism.

The following verses from the Noble Qur'an illustrate this fact:

"Indeed, We sent Nooh (Noah) to his people and he said: 'O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilaah (God) but him. (Laa ilaaha ill Allaah, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah). Certainly, I fear for you the torment of a great Day!'" (Al-A'araaf, The Heights 7:59)

"And to 'Aad (people, We sent) their brother Hood. He said: 'O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilaah (God) but Him. (Laa ilaaha ill Allaah, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah). Will you not fear (Allah)?'" (Al-A'araaf, The Heights 7:65)

"And to (the people of) Madyaan (Midian), (We sent) their brother Shu'ayb. He said: 'O my People! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilaah (God) but Him. (Laa ilaaha ill Allaah, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah). Verily, a clear proof (sign) from your Lord has come unto you, so give full measure and full weight and wrong not men in their things, and do not make mischief on the earth after it has been set in order, that will be better for you, if you are believers.'" (Al-A'araaf, The Heights 7:85)

"And to Thamood (people, We sent) their brother Saalih. He said: 'O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilaah (God) but Him. (Laa ilaaha ill Allaah, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah).'" (Al-A'araaf, The Heights 7:73)

"And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): Worship Allah (Alone) and avoid (or keep away from) Taaghoot (all false deities etc. do not worship Taaghoots besides Allah)." (An-Nahl, The Bee 16:36)

Every Prophet was sent unto his own nation for their guidance, but the Message of Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam - peace be upon him) was general for all mankind and jinn (a being created from smokeless flames).

"Say [O Muhammad (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam)]: 'O mankind! Verily, I am sent to you all as the Messenger of Allah.'" (Al-A'araaf, The Heights 7:158)

So the aim of sending these Prophets and Messengers to mankind and jinn was only that they should worship Allah Alone, as Allah said:

"And I (Allah) created not the jinn and men except they should worship Me (Alone)" (Adh-Dhaariyaat, The Winds that Scatter 51:56)

And to worship Allah means to obey Him and to do all that He has ordained, - and to fear Him by abstaining from all that He has forbidden. Then those who will obey Allaah will be rewarded in Paradise, and those who will disobey Him will be punished in the Hell-fire

Medievalist
08-11-07, 10:59 AM
:jkk: aboosait

aboosait
08-11-07, 03:32 PM
i guess camera man is the third man.

Brother, when did the tj start going for gasht with audio and video equipment like the media people?

As far as I know during ijthamas (religeous gatherings) they do not permit recording the speech even of the ulema. Even photography was not allowed. It is really news to me that the gashts in UK are equipped with video cameras.

abdusamad
09-11-07, 12:29 AM
Brother, when did the tj start going for gasht with audio and video equipment like the media people?

As far as I know during ijthamas (religeous gatherings) they do not permit recording the speech even of the ulema. Even photography was not allowed. It is really news to me that the gashts in UK are equipped with video cameras.


This video clip is rare, i went to the markaz in london on several occassions and never heard of TECHIE-gasht.

ImaanSeeker
09-11-07, 02:55 AM
MashaAllah. It's inspiring to see brothers persevere and continue to carry out the effort.

Abu Hurairah
09-11-07, 04:02 AM
i guess camera man is the third man.
They dont go out for 'gush' (i believe thats the term when they go out to give dawah on the street) with less than 3 people. Your stronger as 3 and less likely to be temped by shaytaan.
Na'am in adherance to the hadith:

Abu Sa'id (ra) and Abu Hurayrah (ra) report the Prophet (saw) said: "Whenever three people go on a journey, let one of them be the Amir."

Sahih Abu Da'ud

Shaykh Al-Albani (rahimullah) said: "Its chain is good" (Mishkah al-Masabih, 2:1145).

Ibn Taymiyah (rahimullah) in commentary of the hadith states points that it requires the choosing of one leader of a group of people even if it is a small group or a temporary group dealing with a temporary activity. This is a notification of the importance of choosing one leader for groups greater than three and for activities of a longer duration. (Majmu' Fatawa Ibn Taymiyah, 28:390).

Imam Ahmad (rahimullah) recorded reports a similar hadith:

Abdullah ibn 'Amr (ra) said that the Prophet (saw) said: "It is not permissible for three people to be (even) in an open space of land without making one among them their Amir." (Majmu' Fatawa Ibn Taymiyah, 28:390).

Abu Hurairah
09-11-07, 04:05 AM
Masha'allah to the daw'ah and community work being carried out by our brother Mohammed al-Ghabra, the Tabligh brothers, and others from varied manhaj, may Allah (swt) guide them all and accept their deed- Ameen.

aboosait
09-11-07, 12:35 PM
Masha'allah to the daw'ah and community work being carried out


by our brother Mohammed al-Ghabra,



the Tabligh brothers,



and others from varied manhaj,


may Allah (swt) guide them all and accept their deed- Ameen.

Do you mean that our young brother Mohammed al-Ghabra does not belong to the TJ?

But the video presentation clearly says he is from the Tableeg Jama'at.

seven
09-11-07, 01:12 PM
Brother, when did the tj start going for gasht with audio and video equipment like the media people?

As far as I know during ijthamas (religeous gatherings) they do not permit recording the speech even of the ulema. Even photography was not allowed. It is really news to me that the gashts in UK are equipped with video cameras.The video is not about TJ... it's about the brother... who happens to be affiliated with TJ...

of course, you being such a cynic.. wouldn't understand that.

aboosait
09-11-07, 01:17 PM
The video is not about TJ... it's about the brother... who happens to be affiliated with TJ...

Please read my last post

seven
09-11-07, 01:18 PM
Please read my last postyour point?

aboosait
09-11-07, 01:23 PM
your point?

It is in the quote.

seven
09-11-07, 01:26 PM
what about it?

aboosait
09-11-07, 01:47 PM
what about it?

You mean to say that the young brother Mohammed al-Ghabra is affiliated with TJ..Wheras brother Abu Hurairah isolates him from the tableegi brothers and others from varied manhaj.

My study reveals that such youth working in the name of Da'wah (calling to Allaah), only rouse the emotions and sentiments of the common-folk, take them away from the firmly established scholars and merely call to themselves and towards their innovated and pretentious methodologies.

seven
09-11-07, 02:00 PM
You mean to say that the young brother Mohammed al-Ghabra is affiliated with TJ..Wheras brother Abu Hurairah isolates him from the tableegi brothers and others from varied manhaj.

My study reveals that such youth working in the name of Da'wah (calling to Allaah), only rouse the emotions and sentiments of the common-folk, take them away from the firmly established scholars and merely call to themselves and towards their innovated and pretentious methodologies.

can you please stay on topic?

this thread is about the video posted.

and the video is about a brother called Muhammad, and not specifically about TJ.

THE PATH 2
09-11-07, 02:00 PM
6 points of tabligh

FIRM FAITH

SALAH with proper etiquettes

KNOWLEDGE AND REMEMBRANCE OF ALLAH

SERVICE TO MANKIND

DOING EVERYTHING FOR ALLAH

STRIVING TO OBTAIN QUALITIES OF A MOMIN

anything wrong ????aboosait

ImaanSeeker
10-11-07, 12:34 AM
You mean to say that the young brother Mohammed al-Ghabra is affiliated with TJ..Wheras brother Abu Hurairah isolates him from the tableegi brothers and others from varied manhaj.

My study reveals that such youth working in the name of Da'wah (calling to Allaah), only rouse the emotions and sentiments of the common-folk, take them away from the firmly established scholars and merely call to themselves and towards their innovated and pretentious methodologies.

You're study? We don't care about your study.

abdusamad
10-11-07, 01:06 AM
His study = what he derived from the research he made on that specific 'subject'

zammy
10-11-07, 01:08 AM
Asalamu alaykum..

I've heard some not-so-great things about the TJ.. not the common followers of the tableeghs but their actual sheykhs/leaders and the books they've written on their methadology..I heard their beleifs contain alot of shirk, fabricated things not from Islam etc.? I'm not trying to cause an argument i'm just wondering about them if anyone can clarify insha'Allah..and also the concept of khuruj not from the sunnah?

a mu-min
10-11-07, 02:25 AM
go and search, or start a new thread.

nothing personal.

Abu Hurairah
10-11-07, 02:57 AM
Do you mean that our young brother Mohammed al-Ghabra does not belong to the TJ?

But the video presentation clearly says he is from the Tableeg Jama'at.

Na'am from the video itself we can see the dear brother does belong to the Tablighi Jamm'at- so whats your point if anything at all?
You mean to say that the young brother Mohammed al-Ghabra is affiliated with TJ..Wheras brother Abu Hurairah isolates him from the tableegi brothers and others from varied manhaj.
My du'a was for him, other brothers from Tabligh, and those following another manhaj so as to be as inclusive as possible.

What seems to be your problem exactly? I isolated the particular brother himself for du'a as I only just then heard of him, his commitment to the deen, and the hardships he faced. I then continued to make du'a for the Jammah he belongs to as well as other brothers and sisters not of that manhaj.

My study reveals that such youth working in the name of Da'wah (calling to Allaah), only rouse the emotions and sentiments of the common-folk, take them away from the firmly established scholars and merely call to themselves and towards their innovated and pretentious methodologies.
Your studies are insignificant, nothing noteworthy- whatever 'revelation' you claim your study reveals is irrelevant.

Hekmaa
10-11-07, 04:07 AM
Do you mean that our young brother Mohammed al-Ghabra does not belong to the TJ?

But the video presentation clearly says he is from the Tableeg Jama'at.


How many days have you spent in the way of Allah? calling people to Islam, to the Masjid, to Quran?

How many nights have you spent crying that Allah give hidayah to the people whom you went and gave dawah to during the day?

What do you know about Dawah work other than how to attack them?

Aboosait, i have asked you before to use your energy in a more positive manner and not in hate mongering, cynically criticizing anyone who doesnt follow your method.

I wonder what Maulana Abdul Haamid Rehmaani, will think of what you are doing because you have mentioned to be part of that Jamah...

aboosait
10-11-07, 04:49 AM
[QUOTE=Hekmaa;2242624]
I wonder what Maulana Abdul Haamid Rehmaani, will think of what you are doing because you have mentioned to be part of that Jamah...QUOTE]

Please quote post number and link to the page on which your statement is based.

aboosait
10-11-07, 04:58 AM
can you please stay on topic?

this thread is about the video posted.

and the video is about a brother called Muhammad, and not specifically about TJ.

I thought that the subject was Tablighi Jammat- Dawat on the streets of East London ..
I never imagined that the subject of discussion would have nothing to do with the topic

ammarcool
10-11-07, 05:43 AM
Asalamu alaykum..

I've heard some not-so-great things about the TJ.. not the common followers of the tableeghs but their actual sheykhs/leaders and the books they've written on their methadology..I heard their beleifs contain alot of shirk, fabricated things not from Islam etc.? I'm not trying to cause an argument i'm just wondering about them if anyone can clarify insha'Allah..and also the concept of khuruj not from the sunnah?


:wswrwb:

brother have you heard about anyone who has followed the noble work of Tableegh gone astray? the people who has gone on astray are now following the DEEN 100% coz of the noble work of Tableegh! ASK from them about the work of Tableegh! they are spending there time, money, and all of them for the sake of Almighty! who are going to do like these?

Brother don't ask what others say!!! if you can just speak with those brothers who are in the path of Almighty! just speak to them and if possible speak whatever the doubts that you have with them! else just try to spend 3 days in the path of Almighty if possible! then you can realize what are they doing!

for aboosait: if possible just spend 3 days with the people doing Dawah work without arguing because you are wasting your time arguing. Theoratically you can come up with lots of points, but only from those you cant understand it unless without doing it practiacally. so try to feel the difference doing it practically. hope you can remind the story of the 2 sectors who traveled in a ship, the sector who tried to put a hole in the ship.. etc.

Brother have you did Dawah work in the STREETS? in the MARKET? in the BEACH? in the BUS? in RURAL difficult AREAS? to the POORs? to the BEGGARs? etc.

The Deen
10-11-07, 06:54 AM
Tablighi Jama'at masha'Allah. Their stuff does not contain shirk, rather it's the opposite.

ayman123
10-11-07, 09:19 AM
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aboosait
10-11-07, 10:53 AM
Asalamu alaykum..

I've heard some not-so-great things about the TJ.. not the common followers of the tableeghs but their actual sheykhs/leaders and the books they've written on their methadology..I heard their beleifs contain alot of shirk, fabricated things not from Islam etc.? I'm not trying to cause an argument i'm just wondering about them if anyone can clarify insha'Allah..and also the concept of khuruj not from the sunnah?

ISSUES OF CRITICISM CONCERNING JAMAA'AT-UT-TABLEEGH

By the Subduer of Innovations, Al-’Allaamah Muqbil Ibn Haadee al-Waadi’ee Translated by Maaz Qureshi [Taken from Tarjumah Abee ’Abdur-Rahmaan Muqbil Ibn Haadee al-Waadi’ee (p. 137-138) of Shaykh Muqbil.] Source: TROID Publications

So as for Jamaa’atut-Tableegh, then in front of you is what the noble brother, Muhammad Ibn ’Abdul-Wahhaab al-Wassaabee – may Allaah preserve him - has written. So he said,

[1]: They act upon Weak ahaadeeth. Rather, they act upon fabricated ahaadeeth and those that have no basis.

[2]: You will find many innovations amongst them. Rather, their da’wah (call) is built upon innovations. The backbone of their call is khurooj (going out) with a limit of three days in a week, four months in a year and four months (at least) in a lifetime. And they have two excursions (jawlah) every week: one to the mosque that is prayed in, and the other is a roaming excursion. And they have two study circles every day: a circle in the mosque that is prayed in, and one circle at a house. So they will not be pleased with a person until he adheres to this. There is no doubt that this is an innovation in the Religion for which Allaah has sent down no authority.

[3]: They feel that the call to Tawheed causes conflict for the Ummah.

[4]: They feel that the call to the Sunnah causes conflict for the Ummah.

[5]: Their leader says sternly, ‘An innovation that gathers the people together is better than a Sunnah which divides the people.’

[6]: They have enmity towards Ahlus-Sunnah.

[7]: They indirectly and directly deprive the people of beneficial knowledge.

[8]: They feel that there is no salvation for the people, except through their path, and they strike a parable stating that this (their call) is like the Ark of Nooh; whosoever boards it is saved and whosoever does not, is destroyed. And they say, ‘Our da’wah is like the Ark of Nooh.’ Indeed I have heard the likes of this from them in Jordan and Yemen.

[9]: They do not give importance to Tawheedul-Uloohiyyah (Oneness of Allaah in Divinity) and Tawheedul-Asmaa‘ was-Sifaat (Oneness of Allaah in His Names and Attributes).

[10]: Verily they do not prepare for seeking knowledge. They feel that the time spent in search of knowledge is a waste. And they possess other than what has been mentioned.

aboosait
10-11-07, 11:21 AM
brother have you heard about anyone who has followed the noble work of Tableegh gone astray?

Instead of generalizing as "who has followed the noble work of Tableegh" if you ask me "who has joined the tableeg jamat" I have seen many young boys and girls from decent families giving up their education and spoiling their career. Both the sons of a senior colleague have gone astray. One who studied to qualify in the hospitality Industry (Mysore is an important tourist destination with ample scope in this field) ended up as a house broker after returning from his khurooj (plural). His elder brother who garaduated in Pharmacy and was working as a lecturer, lelft all jobs and was on khurooj until his family was about to split. Now he is working in a BPO company.

My friend's daughter discontinued medical studies after she joined tj.

The other day while I was on a journey the muezzin of a mosque came near and asked me "are you not aboo?" He was none other than a brilliant student during my college days who started going on khurooj and spoilt his career.

These are only a few examples I personally know. You are asking me "have you heard of...?"

You people dont consider neglecting on's career/duty towards parents and family/education etc as going astray!!!

Hekmaa
10-11-07, 11:23 AM
[quote=Hekmaa;2242624]
I wonder what Maulana Abdul Haamid Rehmaani, will think of what you are doing because you have mentioned to be part of that Jamah...QUOTE]

Please quote post number and link to the page on which your statement is based.

Go back and look at every single post you have posted, every single one contains some form of derivation from that Jamaa'hs work. What is shameful is that you aren't even a good student. You use the works of those scholars and you cut and paste it trying to make your own point.

Are you denying to be part of their movement? maybe i should ask do you even know who he is?

THE PATH 2
10-11-07, 11:27 AM
Instead of generalizing as "who has followed the noble work of Tableegh" if you ask me "who has joined the tableeg jamat" I have seen many young boys and girls from decent families giving up their education and spoiling their career. Both the sons of a senior colleague have gone astray. One who studied to qualify in the hospitality Industry (Mysore is an important tourist destination with ample scope in this field) ended up as a house broker after returning from his khurooj (plural). His elder brother who garaduated in Pharmacy and was working as a lecturer, lelft all jobs and was on khurooj until his family was about to split. Now he is working in a BPO company.

My friend's daughter discontinued medical studies after she joined tj.

The other day while I was on a journey the muezzin of a mosque came near and asked me "are you not aboo?" He was none other than a brilliant student during my college days who started going on khurooj and spoilt his career.

These are only a few examples I personally know. You are asking me "have you heard of...?"

You people dont consider neglecting on's career/duty towards parents and family/education etc as going astray!!!

here in dewsbury,,there are doctors /lawyers barristers pharmacists and more involved in tabligh:up:

education as a good muslim is dawah

Joha
10-11-07, 11:36 AM
Instead of generalizing as "who has followed the noble work of Tableegh" if you ask me "who has joined the tableeg jamat" I have seen many young boys and girls from decent families giving up their education and spoiling their career. Both the sons of a senior colleague have gone astray. One who studied to qualify in the hospitality Industry (Mysore is an important tourist destination with ample scope in this field) ended up as a house broker after returning from his khurooj (plural). His elder brother who garaduated in Pharmacy and was working as a lecturer, lelft all jobs and was on khurooj until his family was about to split. Now he is working in a BPO company.

My friend's daughter discontinued medical studies after she joined tj.

The other day while I was on a journey the muezzin of a mosque came near and asked me "are you not aboo?" He was none other than a brilliant student during my college days who started going on khurooj and spoilt his career.

These are only a few examples I personally know. You are asking me "have you heard of...?"

You people dont consider neglecting on's career/duty towards parents and family/education etc as going astray!!!

Stop being so vehement.

Whilst I disagree with many of the things eminent Tableeghi Jamaat scholars have said or published, the good they do is enormous.

In remote places (especially in India), I see no other group working so hard, and succeeding so well in getting young layabouts (often uneducated and illiterate about their faith) back into mosques, back into some form of 'practising' Muslims - even if that is only salah.

I would say that intellectually they may be unsound (I'd agree with you on that) but what you cannot say is that they do no good. Until your group, or any other group takes over the role they're playing in the world, you should stop denouncing them.

Intellectually, you're welcome to point out their flaws, their weaknesses, (and let's face it, which group doesn't have those) but don't denounce them as a whole. In terms of grassroots level work, they have no competitors.

hkrespect
10-11-07, 11:37 AM
i remember imam seraj wehaj saying along the lines of:

i rather my children be street sweepers and still have islam/imaan, than be doctors/lawyers and have no islam/imaan.

(*_Hamzah
10-11-07, 08:00 PM
here in dewsbury,,there are doctors /lawyers barristers pharmacists and more involved in tabligh:up:

education as a good muslim is dawah

Exactly Emel is a Pharmacist

aboosait
11-11-07, 11:17 AM
i remember imam seraj wehaj saying along the lines of:

i rather my children be street sweepers and still have islam/imaan, than be doctors/lawyers and have no islam/imaan.

Jaazakallahu khair.

You have proved my point.

Though I have not heard of this imam. it is the inflamatory 'talk' of such people that has been driving many a youth away from their pursuit of education shattering the dreams and aspirations of their parents and well wishers.

THE PATH 2,: here in dewsbury,,there are doctors /lawyers barristers pharmacists and more involved in tabligh

It is not what they are that matters but what they make of our youth. If these 'daees' also give the dawat like "imam seraj wehaj" I dont know what will be the future of our ummah.? It is this type of guloo that the scholars are against.

Already we see in the media muslims leading in all types of crimes in India.

Why should anyone wish his children or any other muslim to be street sweepers? Wishing them to be good mu'mins and not to go against the teachings of Islam. Why utter such words. Do they think that Allah will be happy with such duas?

THE PATH 2
11-11-07, 11:51 AM
YOU HAVE ISSUES..GO DO SOME GOOD IN THE WORLD..:up:

not just moan

Hekmaa
11-11-07, 11:51 AM
aboosait I am still waiting for reply to my last post....

aboosait
12-11-07, 12:28 AM
[quote=aboosait;2242632]

Go back and look at every single post you have posted, every single one contains some form of derivation from that Jamaa'hs work. What is shameful is that you aren't even a good student. You use the works of those scholars and you cut and paste it trying to make your own point.

Are you denying to be part of their movement? maybe i should ask do you even know who he is?

The last post is almost a repetition of your earlier post for which i have alaready replied:

Your post: I wonder what Maulana Abdul Haamid Rehmaani, will think of what you are doing because you have mentioned to be part of that Jamah...

And this was and is my reply:

aboosait: Please quote post number and link to the page on which your statement is based.

You use the works of those scholars

Which scholars do you mean? Wherever there is a copy paste I have mentioned the source.

hkrespect
12-11-07, 01:31 AM
Why should anyone wish his children or any other muslim to be street sweepers? Wishing them to be good mu'mins and not to go against the teachings of Islam. Why utter such words. Do they think that Allah will be happy with such duas?

he did not wish for them to be street sweepers.

he did say he would be happy if they get top degrees and jobs, but not at the expense of islam/imaan.

let me ask you, would you rather your kids be:

1- brain surgeons and have no islam/imaan,
2- street sweepers with plenty of islam/imaan

?

aboosait
12-11-07, 01:50 AM
he did not wish for them to be street sweepers.

he did say he would be happy if they get top degrees and jobs, but not at the expense of islam/imaan.

let me ask you, would you rather your kids be:

1- brain surgeons and have no islam/imaan,
2- street sweepers with plenty of islam/imaan

?

Such arrogant attitude of expressing one's wishes has not been recomended in the Qur'an/Sunnah. On the contrary, Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'alaa teaches us the following dua:

Al-Furqan [25:74]

وَالَّذِينَ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا هَبْ لَنَا مِنْ أَزْوَاجِنَا وَذُرِّيَّاتِنَا قُرَّةَ أَعْيُنٍ وَاجْعَلْنَا لِلْمُتَّقِينَ إِمَامًا25:74 And those who pray, "Our Lord! Grant unto us wives and offspring who will be the comfort of our eyes, and give us (the grace) to lead the righteous."

hkrespect
12-11-07, 02:06 AM
Such arrogant attitude of expressing one's wishes has not been recomended in the Qur'an/Sunnah. On the contrary, Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'alaa teaches us the following dua:

Al-Furqan [25:74]

وَالَّذِينَ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا هَبْ لَنَا مِنْ أَزْوَاجِنَا وَذُرِّيَّاتِنَا قُرَّةَ أَعْيُنٍ وَاجْعَلْنَا لِلْمُتَّقِينَ إِمَامًا<b>25:74 And those who pray, "Our Lord! Grant unto us wives and offspring who will be the comfort of our eyes, and give us (the grace) to lead the righteous." </b>

i take it you went for option 2.

aboosait
12-11-07, 09:12 AM
i take it you went for option 2.

Neither Option #1 nor option #2.

I have chosen option #3 which I have quoted in my post and which perhaps you have not read. This option clearly negates both your options.

Let me explain:

The option 3 teaches us to ask for


offspring who will be the comfort of our eyes,

and (the grace) to lead the righteous.

Hekmaa
12-11-07, 11:13 AM
[quote=Hekmaa;2242827]

The last post is almost a repetition of your earlier post for which i have alaready replied:



And this was and is my reply:





Which scholars do you mean? Wherever there is a copy paste I have mentioned the source.


Point made, :)

aboosait
15-07-08, 11:29 AM
[quote=aboosait;2246067]


Point made, :)

At least after these 8 months I hope you will be kind enought o tell me who is Maulana Abdul Haamid Rehmaani.

If he is someone from Dawsbery Markaz, no chance of my knowing him/him knowing me as I have never been anywhere near that place.

KeeKee
19-08-08, 09:53 PM
what happened to brother ThePath2? did he leave? his contributions were good, mashAllah.

*hijab*
19-08-08, 10:51 PM
Top brother, locked up and still humble, :masha:


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lol i know the bro in the video...and my uncles in their too lol

MWarrior
27-08-08, 11:35 AM
Top brother, locked up and still humble, :masha:


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yep

Masha'allah to the daw'ah and community work being carried out by our brother Mohammed al-Ghabra, the Tabligh brothers, and others from varied manhaj, may Allah (swt) guide them all and accept their deed- Ameen.
Aameen

what happened to brother ThePath2? did he leave? his contributions were good, mashAllah.
Not really. He is one of those who gives TJ a bad name.

MWarrior
27-08-08, 11:40 AM
does anyone have another link ?? 'cos the youtube vid doesnt work

seven
27-08-08, 11:54 AM
i think you might be able to download it from islamic torrents? it's called generation mohammed or something