why are women so complicated

[Al-Muhaajiroun]

why are we talking about obedience? i am young yes. but not a 16 yr old. im old enough to understand!

Like i said in my provious post "There is also another Hadith i would like to share too." Just wanted to share it basically that's all.

I take it Fisabililah have answered and gave you your dalil.

[Abu Mus'ab]

some people are complicated and some are not, dont generalise :nono:

[bint]

ah abumusab.

:rolleyes:

yes she may have given me a daleel.
im still not satisfied with it. well it doesnt matter.

[fisabilllillah]

ah abumusab.

:rolleyes:

yes she may have given me a daleel.
im still not satisfied with it. well it doesnt matter.

sis......jus lemme know wat u are not satisfied with...i'll try n help .....

[fisabilllillah]

basically we are a fitnah....we increase temptation and desires for our husband.....if they r strong men and we are strong women...we will be moderate in our approach to each other and not let our desires for each other be a distraction to our service to allah.....

u know wen u love someone...u have to keep ur feet on the ground and the best way to do it is to declare that u :love: them fisabillilah......always tell ur husband to tell u he :love: u fisabillilah...:Dsome men jus love women and r obsessed with them as beings and this is fitnah.........

[summer786]

Dude read 'Men are from Mars Women are from Venus' the book's famous for a reason.

I read a bit.....i suppose its true but I'm too young to care :zzz:

But it's made for people who are like "ugh! I'm off men for life!" or "why are women so complicated and emotional"

"why can't you even screw the cap on the toothpaste?!? i'm moving out!"

"you always on my back woman! why can't you just let it be?"

etc etc

[Abu Mus'ab]

ah abumusab.

:rolleyes:

yes she may have given me a daleel.
im still not satisfied with it. well it doesnt matter.
Bint all women are not a fitnah per se, but they can become a fitnah (in the way you're thinking).

for instance wealth on it's own can either be used for good or for evil, in both ways the wealth is a fitnah, but this 'fitnah' means a test/imtihaan unall that stuff, it does not mean fitnah as in trouble/strife etc

fitnah is a word that has loadsa meanings, that is why people can give lectures on just the word itself, you're thinking fitnah means problem/evil etc, when that is not the case here, the english meaning changes according to what is being said.

So people can argue day and night about whether women are 'walking bags of fitnah' or not, but they'll never be able to come to a conclusion until they explain themselves fully :nono:

[bint]

Bint all women are not a fitnah per se, but they can become a fitnah (in the way you're thinking).

for instance wealth on it's own can either be used for good or for evil, in both ways the wealth is a fitnah, but this 'fitnah' means a test/imtihaan unall that stuff, it does not mean fitnah as in trouble/strife etc

fitnah is a word that has loadsa meanings, that is why people can give lectures on just the word itself, you're thinking fitnah means problem/evil etc, when that is not the case here, the english meaning changes according to what is being said.

So people can argue day and night about whether women are 'walking bags of fitnah' or not, but they'll never be able to come to a conclusion until they explain themselves fully :nono: see now i understand..when u said the highlighted parts.

thats why people gotta be more careful :( it puts ya off :torture:
inshaAllah someones gonna pm me with what they have studied..i mean they studied this in depth..so im gonna inshaAllah understand..im sure theres more to it.:up:thnx abumusab:up:

[Ebony]

Biggest fitnah? = A person who's as thick as two planks back to back
:smack:

[bint]

Biggest fitnah? = A person who's as thick as two planks back to back
:smack:
:eek3:
i did miss ya man :embar:

[Ebony]

:eek3:
i did miss ya man :embar:

Aww. Thanks :P:inlove:

[Pippin1376]

But in Islam a man has a status above women so therefor women are obliged to listen to there husbands no matter what just as long it's not contradicting her religion.
Women and men are equal brother.

[niqaabi_muslima]

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[Tahiyah]

as i said hes supposed to be maintainer and protector of women hence bring that issue into it. many men neglect to do their duties to the ummah in this regard the sahabba rushed to seek the pleasure of Allah in striving to support the weaker members of this ummah, however today a man seeks more the pleasure of driving to his nice job in his beemer and being a slave to his beautiful wife, ( who hes got on the pill cos he doesnt want the responsability of children) than he seeks to support this ummah and raise it up to the ranks of the previous nations.

however this topic is about the complexity of women, and indeed we all have agreed that men need to strive to avoid fitnah and falling into sin in regards to women, and so we take the advice of the messenger of Allah salAllahu alleyhi wa salam, who ordered men to " Fear Allah in regard to women, for they are your trusted helpers! " :lailah: and we can take the advice also of `umar ibn alkhattab who is reported to have said that a man should overlook the excesses of his wife in view of the fact of all the many benefits a wife brings to a man.alhamdulillah dont try to straighten out a woman or she will break and the breaking her will be her divorce. we advise to goodness and to Al Islam and seek to support one another in the deen insha Allah ta ala, because every son of adam has their faults.

Mashaa Allah. can you be my mom? (hmmm...i think i am older than you tho..)

[Al-Muhaajiroun]

Women and men are equal brother.
Salaam bro. ALLAH says in the Qur'an (paraphrasing) that he made men status abit higher than women.

I'll try to bring you the dalil.

WaSalaam.

[Tahiyah]

Salaam bro. ALLAH says in the Qur'an (paraphrasing) that he made men status abit higher than women.

I'll try to bring you the dalil.

WaSalaam.

pips a sis..:o

[Dishdash]

salam.. im sure alot of brothers would agree

women are very complicated and difficult to understand
they get moody for no reason, nag alot. complain.

obsessed with the words "i love u" jus cos a guy does not say it dont mean he dnt love her
he can show his love through actions like. helping her out, doing chores babysitting, making his own breaky and ironing his own clothes.
and so un reasonable. trying to reason with them is like no go area
and they allwasy right.

:zzz::coolbro:

Oh I think I'm going to love this forum!!!!!!! You guys are hilarious!

[Abu Mus'ab]

I just read this a few minutes ago and this thread came to mind,

Top Ten Things Men Understand About Women

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Just smile and send it on.

:rotfl:

[GAL-actic]

I just read this a few minutes ago and this thread came to mind,



:rotfl:

:rofl1:

[fisabilllillah]

Bint all women are not a fitnah per se, but they can become a fitnah (in the way you're thinking).

for instance wealth on it's own can either be used for good or for evil, in both ways the wealth is a fitnah, but this 'fitnah' means a test/imtihaan unall that stuff, it does not mean fitnah as in trouble/strife etc

fitnah is a word that has loadsa meanings, that is why people can give lectures on just the word itself, you're thinking fitnah means problem/evil etc, when that is not the case here, the english meaning changes according to what is being said.

So people can argue day and night about whether women are 'walking bags of fitnah' or not, but they'll never be able to come to a conclusion until they explain themselves fully :nono:


thank u for clearing this..................

[dunya_or_akhira]

One of the fitnahs (temptations) with which we are tested is the fitnah of women, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “I have not left behind me any fitnah (temptation) more harmful to men than women.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5096; Muslim, 2740.

“There are two types of the people of Hell whom I have not seen yet. People with whips like the tails of cattle, with which they strike the people, and women who are clothed yet naked, walking with an enticing gait. They will not enter Paradise nor even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance may be detected from such and such a distance.”

The Prophet (s.a.w) said: "A woman may be married for four reasons: for her property, her status, her beauty, and her religion; so try to get one who is religious, may you be blessed."

“This world is fresh and sweet, and Allaah has appointed you over it, so see how you will do. Fear this world and fear women, for the first fitnah faced by the Children of Israel had to do with women.” Narrated by Muslim

‘If one of you were to be struck in the head with an iron needle, it would be better for him than if he were to touch a woman he is not allowed to.” (Reported by al-Tabaraani; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 5045)

A solution to our problem:

“O young men, whoever among you can afford it, let him get married, and whoever cannot, let him fast, for it will be a shield for him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari

“This world is temporary pleasures and the best of the temporary pleasures of this world is a righteous wife.” Narrated by Muslim

The above were not my own words to please dont try to argue back with your own words or try to refute authentic narrations..accept them like a good muslim and inshaAllah work on being pious then you have inshaAllah nothing to worry about

There will be men and women both in Hell and also Jannah... it all depends on ones own deeds but in general by the evidences of authentic hadiths and tafseer of Quran we should not deny the truth when we see it, even if it goes against what you are brought up to accept... Remember Muslims are submitters to Islam which means Submission to Allah swt

[Joha]

One of the fitnahs (temptations) with which we are tested is the fitnah of women, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “I have not left behind me any fitnah (temptation) more harmful to men than women.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5096; Muslim, 2740.


I accept all that, and I'm not trying to argue, but if you're going to (solely) talk about the fitnah of women, either you're implying that women are angels (show me one that is), or that women aren't open to temptation and men are not a fitnah for them. Given what we see in unrestrained western societies of the nature of human beings, I find both those hard to believe.

Or, even more likely, when the Prophet saw is referring to the fitnah of women, he is doing so to a mainly male audience, and perhaps his general meaning is that that warning applies to both (with respect of each other).

Just a thought.

[Pippin1376]

Joha, men can definitely be a temptation for women, no body is denying that. But there is a hadith, (I'll try to find it inshallah) that says that men are attracted to things by their eyes, and women by their ears. That is one of the reasons why a woman can't lead a prayer, unless it is with women.

[Joha]

Joha, men can definitely be a temptation for women, no body is denying that. But there is a hadith, (I'll try to find it inshallah) that says that men are attracted to things by their eyes, and women by their ears. That is one of the reasons why a woman can't lead a prayer, unless it is with women.

That may be a 'true' reason, but look around you. I don't see it all that one-sided. How many times do we hear of women tempting men, of extramarital affairs where the woman is blamed. Alternatively just as often you hear of 'predatorial' men who 'make' somebody run off with them.

I just feel, in many posts, and in many articles by Muslims, people will focus on that one hadith, and harp on about the fitnah of women, making it sound extremely one sided, when it probably isn't.

I can't speak for the female members of this forum, but think what it must sound like to be constantly told that you're a 'fitnah', and responsible for men being led astray.

[bint]

i hear where johas comin from :up:

[Pippin1376]

That may be a 'true' reason, but look around you. I don't see it all that one-sided. How many times do we hear of women tempting men, of extramarital affairs where the woman is blamed. Alternatively just as often you hear of 'predatorial' men who 'make' somebody run off with them.

I just feel, in many posts, and in many articles by Muslims, people will focus on that one hadith, and harp on about the fitnah of women, making it sound extremely one sided, when it probably isn't.

I can't speak for the female members of this forum, but think what it must sound like to be constantly told that you're a 'fitnah', and responsible for men being led astray.

I understand your point, I was simply answering your question before. Don't get me wrong, I do believe that women can be a fitnah for men and vice versa. But women are simply not as easily tempted by men as men are to women. When a man is leading a prayer, women don't usually (at least I hope not) think about men's bottoms. But according to the hadith, some not all men might think about a women's bottom when she bows down to prayer.

Regardless of that fact, in the end we simply try not to succomb to our desires and inshallah Allah will guide us. That's all we can ask for.

[LEILA1961]

when bowing down to pray you should be thinking about God and not anybody's bottom,
and to get back to the original subject a woman can tall if you love her you dont need to say the 3 magic words and if she needs to hear you say them all the time, find out waht the real probelem is.: :)

[Islamiyyah]

salam.. im sure alot of brothers would agree

women are very complicated and difficult to understand
they get moody for no reason, nag alot. complain.

obsessed with the words "i love u" jus cos a guy does not say it dont mean he dnt love her
he can show his love through actions like. helping her out, doing chores babysitting, making his own breaky and ironing his own clothes.
and so un reasonable. trying to reason with them is like no go area
and they allwasy right.

:zzz::coolbro:

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[Boy Wonder]

why are women so complicated?

Thats just one of life's mysteries :rolleyes:

Note: You can never win in an argument against a women. Men try to make sense but women go all out. Thy're like "Remember the time you didnt open the door for me" >>>> this leads to "Do you not have any respect for women". Best thing to do is let them have their hissy fit