Economic Question

[Ahmed7]

First off, is it true that Rasoolullah said that taxes are haraam? IE A muslim ruler can only take zakat from the populace? Also, if taxes are haraam, how would a Muslim state fund itself? Besides Zakat and war booty (I don't think there are any "raids" happening these days)?

[Z-Blade]

First off, is it true that Rasoolullah said that taxes are haraam? IE A muslim ruler can only take zakat from the populace? Also, if taxes are haraam, how would a Muslim state fund itself? Besides Zakat and war booty (I don't think there are any "raids" happening these days)?

:salams,

Taxes are not haram in Islam.

Wassalam.

[Ahmed7]

:salams,

Taxes are not haram in Islam.

Wassalam.

Daleel?

[Z-Blade]

Daleel?

Do you have Daleel to show it's haram? All things ar Halal unless evidence is given for it to be haram. I have heard from scholars that in Shariah the Khalifah has the right to tax the population if he believes it would be beneficial for the Islamic State.

I have this

"In reality, this is a very immature understanding of Islam, for even an Islamic Khilafa government would implement laws that are the creation of their own minds and Ijtihad. If an Islamic government sees the need to implement a certain law, then it has the full jurisdiction to do so, even if it is not found in the Qur’an and Sunnah. All the scholars unanimously agree that, if a Islamic government decides to implement a law for the benefit of the country and its citizens, then there is nothing wrong in doing so, as long as it does not contradict Shariah, and this law will be binding upon every citizen of that country, even if it was not made obligatory by Shariah initially. Therefore, the laws which an Islamic Khilafa government will set down will also be “man made laws”, and binding upon all the citizens. "

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=2409&CATE=144

From Muslim scholars.

Wassalam.

[Ahmed7]

The point is though that I have heard that Taxing people IS against the Shariah.

[al-ghazalli]

The point is though that I have heard that Taxing people IS against the Shariah.

Its great that you've "heard" it, but unless you can provide some evidence indicating this, it goes back to the default that it is halal unless we have some qati proof for it to be haram.

[giordano]

The point is though that I have heard that Taxing people IS against the Shariah.
Oh come on... how else can you put the non-believers in their place, so that they pay jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued ?

Of course there are taxes in Shariah.

[al-ghazalli]

Oh come on... how else can you put the non-believers in their place, so that they pay jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued ?

actually many non-believers never paid Jizya and some muslim tribes had to pay Jizyah...why the discrepancy u ask?

Many Christians tribe agreed to serve in the Muslim army so they no longer had to pay the Jizya, infact the Khalifa was so grateful he offered them a share in the spoils of war. This was an advantage to many Christian and has been recorded by historians extensively.

As for some Muslim who failed to join the Muslim army, then they could be excused but they had to pay the Jizya.

Aristotle the great Greek philosopher stated;

To give a satisfactory decision as to the truth it is necessary to be rather an arbitrator than a party to the dispute.

[Ahmed7]

Well then how did the Islamic State get funds? Zakat+Jizya+Spoils of War+Taxes?

[al-ghazalli]

Well then how did the Islamic State get funds? Zakat+Jizya+Spoils of War+Taxes?

thats correct, they also relied upon trade, and during the golden age, the King and Queens of Europe would send their children to study in Baghdad with generous gifts.

Infact during the Khalifa of Uthman (May Allah be Pleased with Him) the wealth was so great that the treasury would opened for the public to take whatever they needed intill they were satisfied, even with sizeable amount the population took, the treasury still overflowed with wealth.

[Ahmed7]

thats correct, they also relied upon trade, and during the golden age, the King and Queens of Europe would send their children to study in Baghdad with generous gifts.

Infact during the Khalifa of Uthman (May Allah be Pleased with Him) the wealth was so great that the treasury would opened for the public to take whatever they needed intill they were satisfied, even with sizeable amount the population took, the treasury still overflowed with wealth.

May Allah return us to that state! Ameen.